Re: [MBZ] was more jabba - noa ACC I Servo

[Scott Ritchey]

I'd agree w/ hursty but we don't all live in FL.

Actually, the ACC I servo tends to work OK except for the wet part (controls
coolant through heater core).  I had a '79 TD that still used the electrical
and pneumatic circuits of the servo but a PO rerouted the heater core water
to bypass the servo and go through a manual valve to control flow.  I just
opened the hood and adjusted the valve as needed when the seasons changed.
Eventually I restored all servo functions but the manual valve was not a bad
work-around.

Older manual climate 123s used a manual (cable operated) valve which would
be a great fix, IMO.

The weak points of the servo were the plastic chamber that cracked (due to
age plus thermal stress) and the O-ring that seals the shaft. There is a
metal replacement for the plastic chamber, and it's a good fix.  But there
is no practical way to replace the o-ring, so when it goes, there is no way
to fix it and it usually damages the topside electrics.

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Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba

this is a very good point.  all of this stuff is because of the stupid temp
control and everyone just sets it to full blast and full blow anyway when
they are hot.  what the hell use is an automatic system, particularly one
that sucks and breaks and now can no longer be fixed at reasonable cost?


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:10 PM,  wrote:

> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving fancy
> 300Ds:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> > that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> >> there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost
> a
> >> lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> >> junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
>  list
> >> is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> them
> >>
> >> bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
> you
> >> only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> >>
> >>> You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
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Re: [MBZ] I cant believe it went this high

[Dieselhead]

'Reminds me of the best thing about Miami - getting the Hell out of it.

Wilton


Amen to that!  Also including Deetriot, Newjork, NewJoisey, 
sanfransicko, houston, Nawlins, CHicago, denver/csprings, gary, 
Minimapolis, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

yes, they are.  i remember at the time making fun of some kid for getting a
japan made fender strat but it turns out be a really good guitar.  ibanez
had some really nice guitars too.  i even like the teiscos of a decade
earlier, or at least some of them

of more recent vintage, i've had good luck with korean guitars,
particularly a couple of epiphones and a samick bass.

sadly, i play guitar as well as a i ride a bicycle, but that doesn't mean i
don't appreciate good value in both!


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:30 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>
> > the late 70s jap bike was my first love.  they are GREAT!!!
>
>
> Late 70's Jap guitars are really excellent also.
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Re: [MBZ] Talk about small carburetors and stale gas

[Dieselhead]

Thats gas left in a vented tank on a mower left outside for a year...

-Curt


Correct!
Ding! Ding! ding!

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

[Gary Hurst]

it's that what might be a problem for a serious cyclist might not be a
problem for someone who ride 30 miles a week at 8mph.  what might fail for
you might be adequate for years for me.

it's like my mom's cracked up crappy daewoo.  it "needs" $5k in work and
would still be a POS but it gets to the grocery store and back so it's good
enough for her purposes


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> So explain your point better :)
> My point is stress is stress and the quality of the wheel build will show
> up no mater which type of stress you put on the wheel.
>
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)
>
> On 8/13/2013 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> you still miss my point but you know a lot about bicycles so that makes
>> you
>> ok by me:)
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

i'm not keen on any derailleur system, actually .  i also only ride steel


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> Yes, Altus is high end compared to Wal-feces, but it's still low-end for
> what Cannondale offers.  Cannondale is one of the premier aluminum frame
> makers, and has been for the last 20 years, but that doesn't make the
> low-end Altus groupo any better...
>
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)
>
> On 8/13/2013 10:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> altus is super high end compared to most of the walmart stuff on the
>> street.
>>
>> so much is relative.  i would consider that cannondale to be a really nice
>> bike but some would call it a POS
>>
>> they give bike to the homeless down here (who, as amazing as this will
>> sound, are largely seasonal themselves) and i spend a lot of time helping
>> guys with broken down walmart bikes.  dismal stuff that makes me
>> appreciate
>> a cannondale!
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:30 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> the late 70s jap bike was my first love.  they are GREAT!!!


Late 70's Jap guitars are really excellent also. 

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

[Benz Hogs]

So explain your point better :)
My point is stress is stress and the quality of the wheel build will 
show up no mater which type of stress you put on the wheel.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

you still miss my point but you know a lot about bicycles so that makes you
ok by me:)


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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

Yes, Altus is high end compared to Wal-feces, but it's still low-end for 
what Cannondale offers.  Cannondale is one of the premier aluminum frame 
makers, and has been for the last 20 years, but that doesn't make the 
low-end Altus groupo any better...


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 10:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

altus is super high end compared to most of the walmart stuff on the
street.

so much is relative.  i would consider that cannondale to be a really nice
bike but some would call it a POS

they give bike to the homeless down here (who, as amazing as this will
sound, are largely seasonal themselves) and i spend a lot of time helping
guys with broken down walmart bikes.  dismal stuff that makes me appreciate
a cannondale!




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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Jim Cathey]

this is a very good point.  all of this stuff is because of the stupid 
temp
control and everyone just sets it to full blast and full blow anyway 
when
they are hot.  what the hell use is an automatic system, particularly 
one
that sucks and breaks and now can no longer be fixed at reasonable 
cost?


It really works well when it's not broken.  If it's hot enough,
sure it's on max.  But at medium temps, and especially when humid,
it runs lower and makes for a very comfy & quiet cabin.  Set and
forget.  If it weren't for rotting rubber, and VDO's problem with
solder joints, most of 'em would still be working even now.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

i've had fuji, panasonic and bridgestone from 70s and 80s and really
liked.  today i'm all into trek though


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> the late 70s jap bike was my first love.  they are GREAT!!!
>>
>
> I sure like mine.  Go-anywhere, so long as it's paved.
> I've ridden it waist-deep through flood waters, etc.
> Just keeps going.
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Jim Cathey]

the late 70s jap bike was my first love.  they are GREAT!!!


I sure like mine.  Go-anywhere, so long as it's paved.
I've ridden it waist-deep through flood waters, etc.
Just keeps going.

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

the late 70s jap bike was my first love.  they are GREAT!!!


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts.  Not everyone
>> likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper between their
>> legs
>>
>
> I _never_ will understand the bike subculture.  You mean you
> _want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper?  In
> spandex with a racing stripe?
>
> When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks.
> I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where
> I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I
> get there.  My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from
> the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof.
>
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Gary Hurst]

i know a guy who has a really good handle on OEM motor mounts at great
discount from OE.  perhaps you know him too?


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Yea it does, and it needs motor mounts like nobody's business
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:40 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Does your 240D 3.0 have a manny tranny? That would be an awesome combo.
> >
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> > On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Craig  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:10:49 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving
> >>> fancy 300Ds:)
> >>
> >> One of the advantages of having build a 240D/3.0.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

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yes, it still is so awful.  sorry  :(


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

>
> Maybe the ACC I servo isn't (by comparison) so awful after all.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Hurst
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:54 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba
>
> lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
> treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
> benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
> out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed as
> "mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out there
> anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
> reasons.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
> wrote:
>
> > That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> > that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> > > there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost
> a
> > > lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> > > junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
> >  list
> > > is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> > them
> > >
> > > bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
> > you
> > > only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
> > ka...@striplin.net
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Gary Hurst]

this is a very good point.  all of this stuff is because of the stupid temp
control and everyone just sets it to full blast and full blow anyway when
they are hot.  what the hell use is an automatic system, particularly one
that sucks and breaks and now can no longer be fixed at reasonable cost?


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> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving fancy
> 300Ds:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> > that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> >> there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost
> a
> >> lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> >> junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
>  list
> >> is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> them
> >>
> >> bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
> you
> >> only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> >>
> >>> You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
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>  how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
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Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

[Gary Hurst]

did trent give you the credit or did you charge him back?


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:24 PM,  wrote:

> My charge account was finally credited from "buymbparts.biz". It took
> over two months to get reimbursed. Now the site saws they are updating the
> catalog.  Ended getting what I needed from BuyMBForLess.com. I was happy
> with the transaction.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Massmann
> Oregonia, Ohio
>
> -Original Message- From: WILTON
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:31 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again
>
> Good to hear from you, Trent.  Please, let us hear more.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Buymbparts" 
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:51 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again
>
>
>  No not pawned, I will post an explanation of my problems later. I don't
>> care if you want to read them or not. This forum is awful good at assuming
>> your own opinions. At least I'll give you a reason. Not a thief either,
>> most of you have been credited back for parts not shipped, if you haven't
>> you will be.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Rich Thomas > constructivity.net > wrote:
>>
>>  Probably been pawned by now.
>>>
>>> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>>>
>>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:57 PM, "Rusty Cullens" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Trent has it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Allan Streib 
>>> Sender: "Mercedes" 
>>> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:50:34
>>> To: Rich 
>>> Thomas>;
>>> Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again
>>>
>>> http://www.constructivity.net/**rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm
>>>
>>> Anyone know what happened to the rental spring compressor?  Did Rusty
>>> hand that over to Trent or does he still have that?
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> Rich Thomas 
>>> >
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>  I have a detailed write up of rebuilding my 79 TD front suspension.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib 
 wrote:

 Did the hive-mind ever decide who was the best to go to for parts now?

 I'm thinking of finally doing the front-end overhaul on my W123 300D.  I
 have an old parts quote from Rusty somewhere, so I think I know what I
 need, but where to buy and have a decent shot at getting quality parts?
 Jabba?

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

[Gary Hurst]

you still miss my point but you know a lot about bicycles so that makes you
ok by me  :)


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> I'm trying to say that the wheel is still going to be stressed if you're
> going 12mph or 45mph like I was this weekend.  Whether or not you consider
> yourself a cyclist doesn't have that much bearing on the stress on the
> spokes.
>
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)
>
>
> On 8/13/2013 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> you miss my point.  cyclists are a whole different breed and often are not
>> relevant to the experience of those who just ride bicycles to get from
>> here
>> to there.  if you are talking about something that happens in your 27th
>> 100k if you happen to go over 25mph, it might now apply to me.  so far the
>> wheel is fine.  the last one lasted 2 years with spokes that caught rot
>> from all the salt water i ride through.  if this one lasts 2 or 3 years, i
>> will be very happy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Benz Hogs 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Eventually = 500-2000mi, maybe in the first year as the metal ages. Just
>>> because you're not a "cyclist" doesn't mean you're not stressing the
>>> spokes.  If you weren't stressing the spokes, you could ride a 20 or 24
>>> spoke wheel :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
>>> '98 ML320 "Max" (168,xxx mi)
>>>
>>> On 8/12/2013 11:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>>
>>>  when is "eventually"?  i have a few hundred miles on this wheel and
 everything seems in order

 also, i'm a transportation rider and not a cyclist.  i've always been
 just
 a transportation rider.  my tires are not 1 inch wide, but 2.35".  i
 cannot
 and would not assume the aerodynamic position, but rather have my front
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

altus is super high end compared to most of the walmart stuff on the
street.

so much is relative.  i would consider that cannondale to be a really nice
bike but some would call it a POS

they give bike to the homeless down here (who, as amazing as this will
sound, are largely seasonal themselves) and i spend a lot of time helping
guys with broken down walmart bikes.  dismal stuff that makes me appreciate
a cannondale!




On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Benz Hogs  wrote:

> A 15yo hybrid is not likely to have plastic coated cables.  Especially
> since it has low end Altus/AceraX components.
>
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
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>
> On 8/13/2013 8:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Depends on if the cables are plastic coated or the housings are plastic
>> lined. If either is the case, dry is probably better.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W140 300SE

[clay]

It will be once he gets it moving again.  Front tires are shot, needs detailing 
really bad, back doors will not open (lock fail?), mold on the carpets, radio 
needs a code, fluid and filters task is waiting, not sure the ACC works. spare 
is destroyed, lots of bug/tar/sap on the hood, needs a proper size battery.  
The good -- it runs, the brakes make it stop, but the ABS light is on, tool kit 
is complete, no glass or body damage, interior looks good other than the mold 
spore carpets. first aid kit is original, windows work all around, same with 
the pop top sun roof, all lights work.

Poor kid will have to work an hour to cover gas each way to his job.  A job at 
NAPA would be gooder than working Chez Target to keep the ride on the road.


clay 

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> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:55 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
>> Mini-me, #1 boy just drove home his 300SE from the PnP.  Came with a faulty 
>> trans that would not go in reverse.  Drove it home the 30 miles and after 
>> checking trans level, it was about a quart + over.  That is not good.  
>> Sucked out the offending and then some, since it was nasty black, and stank. 
>>  Figured after 8 quarts removed and tossing seven in over a few cycles this 
>> afternoon we would be getting fresh fluid. Not so lucky.  Transmission is 
>> smoked.
>> 
>> Anybody have a nice spare 722.502 on hand?
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
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>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba valve kits

[WILTON]

'Put one in my 126 several months ago.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Hendrik and Fay" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba valve kits



I believe there is a repair kit for the mono valve in the 126 chassis?

Hendrik
who was wrong once, back in 84 or 85

On 14/08/13 03:04, Gary Hurst wrote:

there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost a
lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon. 
list
is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies 
them


bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves 
you

only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:


You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???






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Re: [MBZ] more jabba valve kits

[Hendrik and Fay]

I believe there is a repair kit for the mono valve in the 126 chassis?

Hendrik
who was wrong once, back in 84 or 85

On 14/08/13 03:04, Gary Hurst wrote:

there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost a
lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.  list
is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies them

bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves you
only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:


You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???






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Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well despite curts objections I went to lowes and compared the husky 
side by side with that poulan 20.  visual inspection the 20 was much 
more heavy duty than the 18 I first had.  It also seems very similar to 
the Husky so I bought the Poulan.  i will give it a go and see what happens.

On 8/12/2013 8:45 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

Buy this at Lowes and be done with it.

http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/455-rancher/

Go to a saw shop and get a real chain (or Baileys). That lawyer mandated, 
estrogen induced, feminized, metro-sexual, low kickback chain won't cut butter. 
You want to hang drapes, or cut wood?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

I do look like a "pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper" on a regular 
basis when I'm riding for exercise, i.e. training for racing this fall. 
 When you sweat, you are glad to wear spandex and not have sweat soaked 
heavy clothes flapping around.  When I'm riding to/from work or a 
clients, I'm wearing normal clothes or business casual.


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'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 9:38 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts.  Not
everyone likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper
between their legs


I _never_ will understand the bike subculture.  You mean you
_want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper?  In
spandex with a racing stripe?

When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks.
I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where
I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I
get there.  My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from
the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Dang Toolbox

[clay]

That was the same course the conversation with my neighbor took.  Better to put 
shiny stuff on a car than some bimbo.  And what girl in her right mind will get 
all spastic about not getting a chrome bumper cover?

clay

Who has a defunct 722.502 transmission sitting in the 300SE in his driveway

On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:03 AM, OK Don wrote:

> It's either playing with old Mercedes, or visiting strip clubs?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
>>  I wonder what I can do to sway SWMBA to see it my way so I can bring
>> that W140 300SE home.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Propane-fired generators [was Re: Talk about small carburetors and stale gas]

[Craig]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:55:48 -0400 "Scott Ritchey" 
wrote:

> 
> One of the reasons I like LP (propane) for my standby generator.

The generator set I built while we lived in rural Colorado has a Chevette
engine with a propane demand regulator and a propane carburetor.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

 I do like that burlwood dash and the CLEAN engine bay.  Almost
droolworthy, even though I didn't see a reference to ICE COLD AC.


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Yeah this looks a better buy http://tampa.craigslist.org/**
> hil/cto/3989184443.html
>
> Hendrik
> who used to have red car but it wasn't sporty
>
> On 13/08/13 00:37, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its
>> own. 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are
>> all over the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything
>> from beaters that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking
>> upwards of $20k for bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.
>>
>> The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:

>  I do like that burlwood dash and the CLEAN engine bay.  Almost
> droolworthy, even though I didn't see a reference to ICE COLD AC.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>
>> Yeah this looks a better buy http://tampa.craigslist.org/**
>> hil/cto/3989184443.html
>>
>> Hendrik
>> who used to have red car but it wasn't sporty
>>
>> On 13/08/13 00:37, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>
>>> It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its
>>> own. 1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are
>>> all over the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything
>>> from beaters that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking
>>> upwards of $20k for bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.
>>>
>>> The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] This look nice at first glance

[Benz Hogs]

M, shinny $#it! :)

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/9/2013 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Of course you can - they did it on MythBusters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

Dan


On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:05 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:


At 10:10 PM -0400 8/8/13, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Yep, its a turd.


So one CAN polish a turd!

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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think red?

[Hendrik and Fay]

Yeah this looks a better buy 
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/3989184443.html


Hendrik
who used to have red car but it wasn't sporty

On 13/08/13 00:37, Dan Penoff wrote:

It wouldn't be a $10k car in this market if it did start and run on its own. 
1980s vintage SLs are a dime a dozen around here, and the prices are all over 
the map. Search the Tampa Bay CL for SLs and you'll see everything from beaters 
that need things like windshields to crazy dealers asking upwards of $20k for 
bizarre canary yellow models in marginal shape.

The decent ones seem to cluster around the $5k-$9k range.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Jim Cathey]

Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts.  Not 
everyone likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper 
between their legs


I _never_ will understand the bike subculture.  You mean you
_want_ to look like a pedaling sperm with a loaded diaper?  In
spandex with a racing stripe?

When I ride my bike it's in jeans, wearing my usual Birks.
I'm not trying to look cool, I'm just trying to get where
I'm going, and not look like (any more of) a dork once I
get there.  My bike is a rusting steel-frame Jap bike from
the 70's, nothing to write home about, and nearly theft-proof.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Craig]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:35:27 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Does your 240D 3.0 have a manny tranny? That would be an awesome
> > combo.
> 
> Yes, Craig even sourced a genuine 300D euro flywheel for it.

Yup, I did.


> What he didn't do was use a turbo donor car, that would have made it
> really cool, especially after he moved to high elevation New Mexico.

I deliberately chose a non-turbo to avoid the complexities of a turbo.
Maybe I would do it different now. At any rate, it is a big step above a
240D.


> Is Los Alamos really at 7,200 feet? That's about 6500 feet higher than
> I'm used to.

Our house is at 7400 feet; we are higher than the townsite.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

A 15yo hybrid is not likely to have plastic coated cables.  Especially 
since it has low end Altus/AceraX components.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 8:25 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Depends on if the cables are plastic coated or the housings are plastic
lined. If either is the case, dry is probably better.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Rich Thomas]

Proud to be a jackass!

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> I've not seen any of that, but there is a huge 'helmet-nazi faction'. As 
> somebody who used to give out unsolicited advice to 'buy a helmet', I try to 
> help others to quit being jackasses like I used to be.

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Craig]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:01:51 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> Yea it does, and it needs motor mounts like nobody's business

I fixed that a long time ago. You remember it from Wonko's IowaQ of
13 Oct 2007.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think 10k?

[Hendrik and Fay]

If it was red with a beige interior, also the rust is a worry, just how 
much is there?


Hendrik
who thinks a sports car should be red

On 13/08/13 00:16, Allan Streib wrote:

You might be right if it started without ether and was drivable.  Until
then, it's a project with all the speculative costs that entails.



A $10K car doesn't have to be perfect, but it does have to start and
run well.





On Mon, Aug 12, 2013, at 09:18 AM, [1]dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

You guys are brutal. That's easily a 10K car with torn seats and all.




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Re: [MBZ] Whaddya Think?

[Jim Cathey]

I don't think the first R129's had the folding hardtop,


I didn't think _any_ of them did.  Thought that showed up
with the SLK.  Just like 113 (?) and 107, it has both a
folding soft top and a separate drop-on hard top.


The R107's rather dated rear diagonal swing axle


Say what?  107's got the same IRS system as everything
else since the 114/115.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

Or a gel/memory foam seat cover instead of padded shorts.  Not everyone 
likes walking around feeling like they have a full diaper between their 
legs


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 8:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Which reminds me. Alex, get some decent gloves and shorts too. They make
cycling more comfortable, and the more you weigh the more it matters.


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Re: [MBZ] Talk about small carburetors and stale gas

[Scott Ritchey]

One of the reasons I like LP (propane) for my standby generator.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:52 AM
To: mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] Talk about small carburetors and stale gas

We have had a lot of talk about carburetors on small engines lately,
so guess what should show up in my inbox from Jack's Small Engines!


See Ethanol Damage Up Close!

http://us5.campaign-archive2.com/?u=74b8acd1012ab13b7dd17ecc5&id=dfa6d45e4a&;
e=da1bd33f2c

...

Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Jerk drivers

[OK Don]

You can't make this stuff up!


Rich people are more likely to be bad drivers with little respect for
pedestrians. And Toyota Prius and BMW drivers may be the worst of all.

That's according to Paul Piff, a researcher with the Institute of
Personality and Social Research at the University of California Berkeley.
He published a paper in 2010 on his research into the relationship between
bad driving habits and wealth, and he spoke
toThe
New York Times recently about his findings.

Piff and his team staked out a crosswalk and an intersection in California
and watched what happened when pedestrians and cars approached. What they
found might not surprise anyone.

In a four-way stop intersection, the pricier cars were more likely to jump
ahead when it wasn't their turn to go, Benjamin Preston writes in The New
York Times.

The researchers also found that at crosswalks, female drivers were more
likely to stop for pedestrians than men. All drivers were more likely to
stop for a woman than for a man.

Piff also studied car makes and models in these environments and said BMW
drivers are awful at crosswalks. "BMW drivers were the worst," he said.

Prius drivers are also horrible, especially with broader driving
infractions. Not what you'd expect from the stereotype of the
environmentally conscious, do-gooder Prius owner.

"In our higher-status vehicle category, Prius drivers had a higher tendency
to commit infractions than most," Piff told the paper.

Piff has done other tests showing that the wealthy lean toward unethical
behavior. He has found that wealthy people are more likely to
admitthat
they would steal paper at work or cheat at a computer game of dice.
http://money.msn.com/car-buying/latest.aspx?post=52b909e8-54b8-4366-82dd-e8020a4a6e0d>1=33029


-- 
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Mitch Haley]

dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Does your 240D 3.0 have a manny tranny? That would be an awesome combo.


Yes, Craig even sourced a genuine 300D euro flywheel for it.
What he didn't do was use a turbo donor car, that would have made it really 
cool, especially after he moved to high elevation New Mexico.

Is Los Alamos really at 7,200 feet? That's about 6500 feet higher than I'm used 
to.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Aug 13, 2013 6:30 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:
>
> Richard Hattaway wrote:
>>
>> Pretty cool car.  It makes oil pressure with 0 RPM on the tach...  or is
that the clock he's talking about .. (~:
>
>
> They had the dreaded tach amplifier in 1981, didn't they?
>

The one you fix with a cigarette butt, assuming you can find a smoker?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Mitch Haley]

Richard Hattaway wrote:

Pretty cool car.  It makes oil pressure with 0 RPM on the tach...  or is that 
the clock he's talking about .. (~:


They had the dreaded tach amplifier in 1981, didn't they?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Aug 13, 2013 3:49 PM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:

 Check brake and shifting cables for
smooth operation, and plan to
replace them if there is any resistance.


Can't they be lubed like motorcycle cables, or is it not worth the effort?


Depends on if the cables are plastic coated or the housings are plastic lined. 
If either is the case, dry is probably better.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:

i may be with rich here and wil likely get a helmet.  sorry to disappoint
the anti helmet faction


What's this 'anti-helmet faction' you speak of?
I've not seen any of that, but there is a huge 'helmet-nazi faction'. As 
somebody who used to give out unsolicited advice to 'buy a helmet', I try to 
help others to quit being jackasses like I used to be.


It's pretty much beyond dispute that foam hats (and padded leather gloves!) 
prevent bruises and abrasions. And nobody is saying that foam hats increase 
injuries or death, so why not wear them? Which reminds me. Alex, get some decent 
gloves and shorts too. They make cycling more comfortable, and the more you 
weigh the more it matters.


When it comes to serious injury and death, the glowingly pro-helmet research 
(Thompson/Rivera/Thompson et al) is intentionally flawed, and the non-slanted 
research always seems to come up inconclusive. One theory is that foam hats, 
which are designed to and should reduce linear acceleration, might be increasing 
radial acceleration, but AFAIK nobody has figured out a way to test that theory.
Another theory is that they do protect the brain, but the effect is so minor 
that you just can't prove it with large population studies. Then there's the 
risk-compensation theory: Foam hats work great, but people ride more dangerously 
when they wear them, so it all cancels out (I don't subscribe to this one, but 
it could be a minor factor).


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Free Autocheck

[Dan Penoff]

Same here with the S500.  tried the Focus as well and it showed up with 
everything, too.

Dan


On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> Looks to be pretty accurate.  I ran my '95 E320 wagon through and all gory
> details come up.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea it does, and it needs motor mounts like nobody's business

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:40 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Does your 240D 3.0 have a manny tranny? That would be an awesome combo.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Craig  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:10:49 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving
>>> fancy 300Ds:)
>> 
>> One of the advantages of having build a 240D/3.0.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I did not ask what list was

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> List price is $1540.  But nobody pays list...
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> So how much did you have to pay for it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure they used to be really cheap, but the new french genuine ones just
>>> work so well.  If they last several years, Its not such a bad price
>> really.
>>> I tried a MTC first also...  I was constantly having to fiddle with the
>>> temperature control to be comfortable.  Its a terrible product.
>>> 
>>> And speaking of climate control... I just bought a new servo for my 79
>>> 300SD.  It seems that benz still has several in stock.  I installed it
>> with
>>> a new amplifier I got from Gary a few years ago.  Its pretty impressive
>>> just how well it works when "new".
>>> 
>>> I replaced what appeared to be the original servo in the car.  At least,
>> it
>>> was a plastic body with original numbers on it.  It had been cracked for
>>> years, but recently started leaking a little bit and getting stuck if it
>>> moved over to heat a little bit.  So I decided it was time to change it.
>>> Hopefully the new one will last a very long time, as I plan to keep this
>>> car for the long haul.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Gary Hurst 
>> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Allan Streib]

Scott Ritchey  writes:

> Maybe the ACC I servo isn't (by comparison) so awful after all.

Yes it is.  It's a literal rube goldberg.



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Re: [MBZ] Free Autocheck

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Looks to be pretty accurate.  I ran my '95 E320 wagon through and all gory
details come up.

Jaime



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

>
> Just ran my 300SD through this.  No surprises but not much info, either.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Haley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:19 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Free Autocheck
>
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Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

[WILTON]

Nothing from Trent yet for me or my account.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again


My charge account was finally credited from "buymbparts.biz". It took over 
two months to get reimbursed. Now the site saws they are updating the 
catalog.  Ended getting what I needed from BuyMBForLess.com. I was happy 
with the transaction.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

-Original Message- 
From: WILTON

Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

Good to hear from you, Trent.  Please, let us hear more.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Buymbparts" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again


No not pawned, I will post an explanation of my problems later. I don't 
care if you want to read them or not. This forum is awful good at 
assuming your own opinions. At least I'll give you a reason. Not a thief 
either, most of you have been credited back for parts not shipped, if you 
haven't you will be.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:



Probably been pawned by now.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:57 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  
wrote:



Trent has it.


Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Allan Streib 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:50:34
To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes 
Discussion List

Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm

Anyone know what happened to the rental spring compressor?  Did Rusty
hand that over to Trent or does he still have that?

Allan

Rich Thomas  writes:


I have a detailed write up of rebuilding my 79 TD front suspension.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib  
wrote:


Did the hive-mind ever decide who was the best to go to for parts now?

I'm thinking of finally doing the front-end overhaul on my W123 300D. 
I

have an old parts quote from Rusty somewhere, so I think I know what I
need, but where to buy and have a decent shot at getting quality parts?
Jabba?

Allan

--
1979 300SD
1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Scott Ritchey]

Keep the coolant clean and exercise it constantly and the servo should last
many years.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime
Kopchinski
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba

Sure they used to be really cheap, but the new french genuine ones just
work so well.  If they last several years, Its not such a bad price really.
 I tried a MTC first also...  I was constantly having to fiddle with the
temperature control to be comfortable.  Its a terrible product.

And speaking of climate control... I just bought a new servo for my 79
300SD.  It seems that benz still has several in stock.  I installed it with
a new amplifier I got from Gary a few years ago.  Its pretty impressive
just how well it works when "new".

I replaced what appeared to be the original servo in the car.  At least, it
was a plastic body with original numbers on it.  It had been cracked for
years, but recently started leaking a little bit and getting stuck if it
moved over to heat a little bit.  So I decided it was time to change it.
 Hopefully the new one will last a very long time, as I plan to keep this
car for the long haul.

Jaime



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
> treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
> benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
> out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed as
> "mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out there
> anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
> reasons.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> > that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> > > there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that
> cost a
> > > lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> > > junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
> >  list
> > > is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> > them
> > >
> > > bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which
leaves
> > you
> > > only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
> > ka...@striplin.net
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
> > > > >
> > > > > __**_
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> > > > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
1775
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> > > taxes."
> > > > - Benjamin Franklin 1789
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Jaime Kopchinski]

List price is $1540.  But nobody pays list...

Jaime



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> So how much did you have to pay for it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
> > Sure they used to be really cheap, but the new french genuine ones just
> > work so well.  If they last several years, Its not such a bad price
> really.
> > I tried a MTC first also...  I was constantly having to fiddle with the
> > temperature control to be comfortable.  Its a terrible product.
> >
> > And speaking of climate control... I just bought a new servo for my 79
> > 300SD.  It seems that benz still has several in stock.  I installed it
> with
> > a new amplifier I got from Gary a few years ago.  Its pretty impressive
> > just how well it works when "new".
> >
> > I replaced what appeared to be the original servo in the car.  At least,
> it
> > was a plastic body with original numbers on it.  It had been cracked for
> > years, but recently started leaking a little bit and getting stuck if it
> > moved over to heat a little bit.  So I decided it was time to change it.
> > Hopefully the new one will last a very long time, as I plan to keep this
> > car for the long haul.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> >> lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
> >> treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
> >> benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
> >> out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed
> as
> >> "mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out
> there
> >> anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
> >> reasons.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
> >>> 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> >>> that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that
> >> cost a
>  lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
>  junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
> >>> list
>  is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> >>> them
> 
>  bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which
> leaves
> >>> you
>  only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> 
> 
>  On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> > You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
> >>> ka...@striplin.net
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
> >>
> >> __**_
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
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> > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
>  taxes."
> > - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> > 2013 F150, 19 mpg
> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[dseretakis]

Does your 240D 3.0 have a manny tranny? That would be an awesome combo.

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:10:49 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving
>> fancy 300Ds:)
> 
> One of the advantages of having build a 240D/3.0.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Free Autocheck

[Scott Ritchey]

Just ran my 300SD through this.  No surprises but not much info, either.

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Subject: [MBZ] Free Autocheck

http://vsvin.info/

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So how much did you have to pay for it?

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Sure they used to be really cheap, but the new french genuine ones just
> work so well.  If they last several years, Its not such a bad price really.
> I tried a MTC first also...  I was constantly having to fiddle with the
> temperature control to be comfortable.  Its a terrible product.
> 
> And speaking of climate control... I just bought a new servo for my 79
> 300SD.  It seems that benz still has several in stock.  I installed it with
> a new amplifier I got from Gary a few years ago.  Its pretty impressive
> just how well it works when "new".
> 
> I replaced what appeared to be the original servo in the car.  At least, it
> was a plastic body with original numbers on it.  It had been cracked for
> years, but recently started leaking a little bit and getting stuck if it
> moved over to heat a little bit.  So I decided it was time to change it.
> Hopefully the new one will last a very long time, as I plan to keep this
> car for the long haul.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
>> treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
>> benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
>> out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed as
>> "mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out there
>> anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
>> reasons.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
>>> that BLOWS ICE COLD
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that
>> cost a
 lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
 junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
>>> list
 is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
>>> them
 
 bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
>>> you
 only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
 
> You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
>>> ka...@striplin.net
>> wrote:
> 
>> how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
>> 
>> __**_
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>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> --
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> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
 taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
> 2013 F150, 19 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] W140 300SE

[dseretakis]

Well that's a pimp ass car for a young man to drive:) 

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:55 PM, clay  wrote:

> Mini-me, #1 boy just drove home his 300SE from the PnP.  Came with a faulty 
> trans that would not go in reverse.  Drove it home the 30 miles and after 
> checking trans level, it was about a quart + over.  That is not good.  Sucked 
> out the offending and then some, since it was nasty black, and stank.  
> Figured after 8 quarts removed and tossing seven in over a few cycles this 
> afternoon we would be getting fresh fluid. Not so lucky.  Transmission is 
> smoked.
> 
> Anybody have a nice spare 722.502 on hand?
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W140 300SE

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 6:55 PM, clay  wrote:

> Mini-me, #1 boy just drove home his 300SE from the PnP.  Came with a faulty 
> trans that would not go in reverse.  Drove it home the 30 miles and after 
> checking trans level, it was about a quart + over.  That is not good.  Sucked 
> out the offending and then some, since it was nasty black, and stank.  
> Figured after 8 quarts removed and tossing seven in over a few cycles this 
> afternoon we would be getting fresh fluid. Not so lucky.  Transmission is 
> smoked.
> 
> Anybody have a nice spare 722.502 on hand?
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

Oh, and the cable+housing will cost $20 or less, depending on how much 
highway robbery your local shop does...


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 7:30 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:

They can be lubed, but if the cable has rusted inside the housing, lube
won't help.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 7:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Aug 13, 2013 3:49 PM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:


  Check brake and shifting cables for
smooth operation, and plan to
replace them if there is any resistance.


Can't they be lubed like motorcycle cables, or is it not worth the
effort?

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

They can be lubed, but if the cable has rusted inside the housing, lube 
won't help.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 7:28 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Aug 13, 2013 3:49 PM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:


  Check brake and shifting cables for
smooth operation, and plan to
replace them if there is any resistance.


Can't they be lubed like motorcycle cables, or is it not worth the effort?

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Aug 13, 2013 3:49 PM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:
>
>  Check brake and shifting cables for
> smooth operation, and plan to
> replace them if there is any resistance.

Can't they be lubed like motorcycle cables, or is it not worth the effort?

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Sure they used to be really cheap, but the new french genuine ones just
work so well.  If they last several years, Its not such a bad price really.
 I tried a MTC first also...  I was constantly having to fiddle with the
temperature control to be comfortable.  Its a terrible product.

And speaking of climate control... I just bought a new servo for my 79
300SD.  It seems that benz still has several in stock.  I installed it with
a new amplifier I got from Gary a few years ago.  Its pretty impressive
just how well it works when "new".

I replaced what appeared to be the original servo in the car.  At least, it
was a plastic body with original numbers on it.  It had been cracked for
years, but recently started leaking a little bit and getting stuck if it
moved over to heat a little bit.  So I decided it was time to change it.
 Hopefully the new one will last a very long time, as I plan to keep this
car for the long haul.

Jaime



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
> treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
> benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
> out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed as
> "mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out there
> anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
> reasons.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> > that BLOWS ICE COLD
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> > > there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that
> cost a
> > > lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> > > junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
> >  list
> > > is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> > them
> > >
> > > bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
> > you
> > > only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> > >
> > > > You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
> > ka...@striplin.net
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
> > > > >
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> > > > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
> > > taxes."
> > > > - Benjamin Franklin 1789
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> > > > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Richard Hattaway]

Pretty cool car.  It makes oil pressure with 0 RPM on the tach...  or is that 
the clock he's talking about .. (~:





 From: P. Prud'homme 
To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com"  
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD
 

A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
What do you think of the price?

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Aug 13, 2013 5:11 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:
>
>
> Maybe the ACC I servo isn't (by comparison) so awful after all.
>

Um, yes it is, by a factor of three at least.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

[Richard Hattaway]

So be prepared to have to show ID if you need more Acetone.  (but Hey!  
No ID needed to Vote!)

Larry

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Craig]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:10:49 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving
> fancy 300Ds:)

One of the advantages of having build a 240D/3.0.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Scott Ritchey]

Maybe the ACC I servo isn't (by comparison) so awful after all.

-Original Message-
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Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba

lots of grim news for 123 cars as you are not getting the same sort of
treatment 115 owners got years ago.  bosch just stopped making the kits.
benz now sources them from some french outfit who no one has yet figured
out how to buy direct from.  there is a chinese bosch knockoff marketed as
"mtc" that isn't any good.  there just may not be enough of you out there
anymore for anyone to really care about you for anything but sentimental
reasons.


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
wrote:

> That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
>
> Andrew
> 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> that BLOWS ICE COLD
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost
a
> > lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
> > junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.
>  list
> > is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies
> them
> >
> > bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves
> you
> > only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> >
> > > You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[dseretakis]

I'm a monovalveless W123 owner. That's what you all get for driving fancy 
300Ds:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> That's grim news indeed for us W123 owners..
> 
> Andrew
> 1983 and 1985 300TDs, each currently operating with normal heat and air
> that BLOWS ICE COLD
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> there is no repair kit for that car.  just leaking monovalves that cost a
>> lot of money.  it's not a great situation as if you get one from a
>> junkyard, it will likely either leak right away or lead pretty soon.  list
>> is like $640 nowadays from mercedes and bosch no longer makes/supplies them
>> 
>> bosch doesn't even make the kits anymore for the 123 cars, which leaves you
>> only with putrid chinese that will fail fast or genuine for 3 figures
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>> 
>>> You need a whole monovalve, not just a repair kit???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin >>> wrote:
>>> 
 how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
 
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[MBZ] W140 300SE

[clay]

Mini-me, #1 boy just drove home his 300SE from the PnP.  Came with a faulty 
trans that would not go in reverse.  Drove it home the 30 miles and after 
checking trans level, it was about a quart + over.  That is not good.  Sucked 
out the offending and then some, since it was nasty black, and stank.  Figured 
after 8 quarts removed and tossing seven in over a few cycles this afternoon we 
would be getting fresh fluid. Not so lucky.  Transmission is smoked.

Anybody have a nice spare 722.502 on hand?


clay 

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

[rmassmann]

My charge account was finally credited from "buymbparts.biz". It took over 
two months to get reimbursed. Now the site saws they are updating the 
catalog.  Ended getting what I needed from BuyMBForLess.com. I was happy 
with the transaction.


Regards,

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio

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From: WILTON

Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

Good to hear from you, Trent.  Please, let us hear more.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again


No not pawned, I will post an explanation of my problems later. I don't 
care if you want to read them or not. This forum is awful good at assuming 
your own opinions. At least I'll give you a reason. Not a thief either, 
most of you have been credited back for parts not shipped, if you haven't 
you will be.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:



Probably been pawned by now.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:57 PM, "Rusty Cullens"  
wrote:



Trent has it.


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-Original Message-
From: Allan Streib 
Sender: "Mercedes" 
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:50:34
To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes 
Discussion List

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] parts sources, again

http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm

Anyone know what happened to the rental spring compressor?  Did Rusty
hand that over to Trent or does he still have that?

Allan

Rich Thomas  writes:


I have a detailed write up of rebuilding my 79 TD front suspension.

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On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

Did the hive-mind ever decide who was the best to go to for parts now?

I'm thinking of finally doing the front-end overhaul on my W123 300D.  I
have an old parts quote from Rusty somewhere, so I think I know what I
need, but where to buy and have a decent shot at getting quality parts?
Jabba?

Allan

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1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Benz Hogs]

As others have said. Clean the bike chain, gears, and derailleurs with a 
degreaser, preferably one that is NOT water based.  Simple Green is 
fairly good, just keep it away from paint and the brake surface.  If you 
do happen to get some on the brake surface, clean the surface with a 
clean rag and alcohol.  Inspect the rubber items (tires, brake shoes, 
and handlebar grips) for cracks or gooeyness and replace as needed. 
Check brake and shifting cables for smooth operation, and plan to 
replace them if there is any resistance.  They need to be resistance 
free or brakes will stick and derailleurs will grind and not shift smoothly.
It was suggested to repack bearings, this may (read 99% likely) require 
special tools, especially for the crank and wheels.  Also, the headset 
may need specific adjustment, depending on the style.  Probably best 
left to someone with experience and tools.


When you apply lube to the chain, coat the chain liberally with a good 
chain oil that will NOT attract/hold dirt.  Leave it soak for 10 min or 
so, then wipe ALL of the extra off the chain with a clean-lint-free rag. 
 This will minimize any collection of dirt that wears the chain 
prematurely.


Luther, hit by a car and still wearing a helmet


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 1:01 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

OK, all you bike geeks like Jabba talking about building custom wheels and
such has gotten me interested in riding again--I can use the exercise too.

I know practically nothing about bicycles, but I have a 15-year-old
Cannondale hybrid that has been sitting in the garage untouched for most of
those years.  Here's a page with all the specs:

http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=1996&brand=Cannondale&model=H200

I'm sure there's a standard "neglected bike" tuneup that I can pay to have
someone do or do myself (just like how on neglected cars you need to
replace all the filters, rotten rubber, etc.).  Any other recommendations
for component upgrades based on that web page?  Should I consider beefing
anything up to handle more weight?  (I weighed about 160 lb when I bought
the bike and sadly am closer to 250 now.)

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] Talk about small carburetors and stale gas

[Craig]

On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:52:05 -0600 Craig  wrote:

> While you are there, you can also check out the article,
> 
>   With the horsepower of a small compact car (109 hp),
> Honda U.K.'s Mean Mower is the fastest lawn tractor
> on earth (estimated 130 mph)!

You can see more about the mower at

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/honda-100mph-lawnmower-team-dynamics-2013-05-29


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Yep, its a lovely car that just feels right.  Its worth that up here.

Jaime



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> So he is trying to get $4800 for a sd with dead air? He is on crack
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
> > If anyone wants a nice W126 300SD with 130k miles there will be one for
> > sale up here in Northern NJ at the end of the month.  It belongs to a
> > German colleague who is going back home.  Its beige, palomino leather.
> > Overall a very nice car, no rust.  Drives well... hes currently on a 2000
> > mile loop around the east coast with it.  Asking for $4800.  Biggest
> issue
> > is the AC doesn't work.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
> >
> >> A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
> >> What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So he is trying to get $4800 for a sd with dead air? He is on crack

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> If anyone wants a nice W126 300SD with 130k miles there will be one for
> sale up here in Northern NJ at the end of the month.  It belongs to a
> German colleague who is going back home.  Its beige, palomino leather.
> Overall a very nice car, no rust.  Drives well... hes currently on a 2000
> mile loop around the east coast with it.  Asking for $4800.  Biggest issue
> is the AC doesn't work.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
> 
>> A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
>> What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Pricey yes, but as I've told you before, market is changing.  These are
classic cars now.  Someone will end up buying this for 8-10k, taking some
nice pictures, and flipping it on ebay to some foreign buyer for $15k.  If
it were local, I'd consider it!

Jaime
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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> this sounds pricey, no?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  >wrote:
>
> > If anyone wants a nice W126 300SD with 130k miles there will be one for
> > sale up here in Northern NJ at the end of the month.  It belongs to a
> > German colleague who is going back home.  Its beige, palomino leather.
> >  Overall a very nice car, no rust.  Drives well... hes currently on a
> 2000
> > mile loop around the east coast with it.  Asking for $4800.  Biggest
> issue
> > is the AC doesn't work.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
> >
> > > A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
> > > What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Dan Penoff]

When I was riding a motorcycle it never ceased to amaze me when I saw all the 
people who "rode free". For many of them it wasn't that the helmet was an 
issue, it was "the man" telling them they had to wear one.

Stupid.

A good friend who used to be a trauma nurse called Jap bikes "donor bikes."

Dan

On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i may be with rich here and wil likely get a helmet.  sorry to disappoint
> the anti helmet faction
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> 
>> I got hit by a Sprinter van while riding my bike.  I related the story of
>> my buddy who fell and cracked his helmet.  Several of my cycling buddies
>> have crashed at various times, some more than once. It is a virtual
>> statistical certainty that you will crash at some point, either by your own
>> (in)action or someone else's.  Those are facts.  It is also a fact that
>> everyone I know who rides a bike wears a helmet, whatever their (in)valid
>> reasons.  My neighbor who was a trauma surgeon rode his bike to work, and
>> always wore a helmet, saying it was stupid not to, and he saw the results
>> of that sort of stupidity.  The other docs I ride with all wear helmets,
>> they seem like sorta half-smart people.
>> 
>> Wearing a helmet is a voluntary act.  Getting hit or crashing is usually
>> not.  It is my personal opinion, backed up by a fair amount of anecdotal
>> reality, that wearing a helmet is a better choice than not to prepare for
>> the inevitable crash, but it is still your choice.  I made a strong
>> suggestion based on my experience, knowledge, anecdotal evidence, and what
>> I believe to be a reasonable, minimal effort thing to do that to me has no
>> particular downside and a fair amount of upside.
>> 
>> You can make your own choice, and if it is not to wear a helmet I will
>> think you are stupid, but I doubt if you care what I think (I don't really
>> care much about what others think, except my wife for obvious reasons, so
>> that is not an insult).
>> 
>> Feel free to ride your motorcycle without one too, here in SC -- we need
>> more organ donors.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/13/13 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>> 
>>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>> 
>>> And be sure to WEAR YOUR HELMET!  I cannot stress that enough.
 
>>> 
>>> I've got two problems with that statement.
>>> 
>>> 1. Why single out a safe and healthy activity such as cycling and claim
>>> it's the only daily activity that's so freaking dangerous that you can't do
>>> it without donning body armor? Perhaps you should recommend foam hats for
>>> really dangerous activities, like diving or climbing stairs?
>>> 
>>> 2. 35 years of data have failed to give us a statistically valid
>>> conclusion as to whether your fatality rate increases or decreases.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  I was riding with a buddy a year ago, we were barely moving and his
 back wheel caught a gap in some road pavers, he went down hard.  Cracked
 his helmet badly, got a huge hematoma on his hand, and messed up his
 shoulder.  This was from barely moving speed, just fell over BANG like
 that.
 
>>> 
>>> Typical "helmet saved my life" anecdote.
>>> 
>>> His head would have been cracked like a ripe melon.
 
>>> 
>>> Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. His head is a lot harder to
>>> crack open than that foam hat was.
>>> The only way this proof works is by circular logic:
>>> Step 1: foam hats save lives
>>> Step 2: since foam hats save lives, this smashed foam hat must have saved
>>> a life
>>> Step 3: since the foam hat in step 2 saved a life, we now have proof of
>>> step 1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll give you another anecdote:
>>> When I was 16, I was cranking full speed up a slight hill on my 10 speed.
>>> Probably 85-95 rpm in ninth gear (52x17). My fork crown separated from my
>>> steerer tube, dumping me straight on my head. Would have destroyed a plain
>>> foam hat for sure, almost certainly would have done major damage to the
>>> real hard shell helmets that Bell made 30 years ago.
>>> In the absence of any body armor, it ripped loose a flap of skin on my
>>> head which took 11 stitches to close, and the blood flow blinded me in my
>>> right eye.
>>> The impact in the right front quadrant of my head threw my head back and
>>> left, actually tearing muscles in the right side of my neck.
>>> 
>>> All I know for certain is:
>>> 1. If I had a foam hat on, I wouldn't have needed eleven stitches in my
>>> head. Foam hats are very good at protecting from surface abrasions on the
>>> part of the head that they cover, if they're strapped down tightly enough
>>> to stay in place.
>>> 2. If I had a foam hat on, my neck would have bent further before my
>>> shoulder took the remaining impact, because it would have made my head
>>> effectively larger. Whether the neck injury would have been enough worse to
>>> result in paralysis is unknown, but I'd much rather keep the scar on my
>>> head than go b

Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[WILTON]

'Put a kit in the SDL monovalve few months ago.

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] more jabba



No, it's a mono valve, not duo

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On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

He must be talking about the infamous "duovalve".  The W140 forum at 
Benzworld says they are unobtanium or very $$$ when you can find them. I 
think there are some people rebuilding them as well.




On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:


how much do you figure you are willing to spend for this thing?  this is
like a $600 part and i don't want to spend the next hour on the phone to
find one for you that some guy has old stock  only to learn that your 
price
limit is $75.  if you can spend $350 on it (which seems reasonable to me 
as
your beloved AZ is $200 more than that)  i'll sell you the first one i 
can

find below that price.  and if this sounds good, give me your VIN


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wrote:



how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?

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Re: [MBZ] bendix 2 speed

[Benz Hogs]

I'm trying to say that the wheel is still going to be stressed if you're 
going 12mph or 45mph like I was this weekend.  Whether or not you 
consider yourself a cyclist doesn't have that much bearing on the stress 
on the spokes.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (169,xxx mi)

On 8/13/2013 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

you miss my point.  cyclists are a whole different breed and often are not
relevant to the experience of those who just ride bicycles to get from here
to there.  if you are talking about something that happens in your 27th
100k if you happen to go over 25mph, it might now apply to me.  so far the
wheel is fine.  the last one lasted 2 years with spokes that caught rot
from all the salt water i ride through.  if this one lasts 2 or 3 years, i
will be very happy


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Benz Hogs  wrote:


Eventually = 500-2000mi, maybe in the first year as the metal ages. Just
because you're not a "cyclist" doesn't mean you're not stressing the
spokes.  If you weren't stressing the spokes, you could ride a 20 or 24
spoke wheel :)


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (168,xxx mi)

On 8/12/2013 11:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


when is "eventually"?  i have a few hundred miles on this wheel and
everything seems in order

also, i'm a transportation rider and not a cyclist.  i've always been just
a transportation rider.  my tires are not 1 inch wide, but 2.35".  i
cannot
and would not assume the aerodynamic position, but rather have my front
steering bar raised nearly to ape hanger heights.




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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

But it's worth at least $17k

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> price is outside of anything i'd consider paying for that car.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
> 
>> A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
>> What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Crack

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> A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
> What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No, it's a mono valve, not duo

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> He must be talking about the infamous "duovalve".  The W140 forum at 
> Benzworld says they are unobtanium or very $$$ when you can find them. I 
> think there are some people rebuilding them as well.
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> how much do you figure you are willing to spend for this thing?  this is
>> like a $600 part and i don't want to spend the next hour on the phone to
>> find one for you that some guy has old stock  only to learn that your price
>> limit is $75.  if you can spend $350 on it (which seems reasonable to me as
>> your beloved AZ is $200 more than that)  i'll sell you the first one i can
>> find below that price.  and if this sounds good, give me your VIN
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> how much for a monovalve for a 95 E300?
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Gary Hurst]

i may be with rich here and wil likely get a helmet.  sorry to disappoint
the anti helmet faction


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I got hit by a Sprinter van while riding my bike.  I related the story of
> my buddy who fell and cracked his helmet.  Several of my cycling buddies
> have crashed at various times, some more than once. It is a virtual
> statistical certainty that you will crash at some point, either by your own
> (in)action or someone else's.  Those are facts.  It is also a fact that
> everyone I know who rides a bike wears a helmet, whatever their (in)valid
> reasons.  My neighbor who was a trauma surgeon rode his bike to work, and
> always wore a helmet, saying it was stupid not to, and he saw the results
> of that sort of stupidity.  The other docs I ride with all wear helmets,
> they seem like sorta half-smart people.
>
> Wearing a helmet is a voluntary act.  Getting hit or crashing is usually
> not.  It is my personal opinion, backed up by a fair amount of anecdotal
> reality, that wearing a helmet is a better choice than not to prepare for
> the inevitable crash, but it is still your choice.  I made a strong
> suggestion based on my experience, knowledge, anecdotal evidence, and what
> I believe to be a reasonable, minimal effort thing to do that to me has no
> particular downside and a fair amount of upside.
>
> You can make your own choice, and if it is not to wear a helmet I will
> think you are stupid, but I doubt if you care what I think (I don't really
> care much about what others think, except my wife for obvious reasons, so
> that is not an insult).
>
> Feel free to ride your motorcycle without one too, here in SC -- we need
> more organ donors.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/13/13 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>>  And be sure to WEAR YOUR HELMET!  I cannot stress that enough.
>>>
>>
>> I've got two problems with that statement.
>>
>> 1. Why single out a safe and healthy activity such as cycling and claim
>> it's the only daily activity that's so freaking dangerous that you can't do
>> it without donning body armor? Perhaps you should recommend foam hats for
>> really dangerous activities, like diving or climbing stairs?
>>
>> 2. 35 years of data have failed to give us a statistically valid
>> conclusion as to whether your fatality rate increases or decreases.
>>
>>
>>   I was riding with a buddy a year ago, we were barely moving and his
>>> back wheel caught a gap in some road pavers, he went down hard.  Cracked
>>> his helmet badly, got a huge hematoma on his hand, and messed up his
>>> shoulder.  This was from barely moving speed, just fell over BANG like
>>> that.
>>>
>>
>> Typical "helmet saved my life" anecdote.
>>
>>  His head would have been cracked like a ripe melon.
>>>
>>
>> Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. His head is a lot harder to
>> crack open than that foam hat was.
>> The only way this proof works is by circular logic:
>> Step 1: foam hats save lives
>> Step 2: since foam hats save lives, this smashed foam hat must have saved
>> a life
>> Step 3: since the foam hat in step 2 saved a life, we now have proof of
>> step 1
>>
>>
>> I'll give you another anecdote:
>> When I was 16, I was cranking full speed up a slight hill on my 10 speed.
>> Probably 85-95 rpm in ninth gear (52x17). My fork crown separated from my
>> steerer tube, dumping me straight on my head. Would have destroyed a plain
>> foam hat for sure, almost certainly would have done major damage to the
>> real hard shell helmets that Bell made 30 years ago.
>> In the absence of any body armor, it ripped loose a flap of skin on my
>> head which took 11 stitches to close, and the blood flow blinded me in my
>> right eye.
>> The impact in the right front quadrant of my head threw my head back and
>> left, actually tearing muscles in the right side of my neck.
>>
>> All I know for certain is:
>> 1. If I had a foam hat on, I wouldn't have needed eleven stitches in my
>> head. Foam hats are very good at protecting from surface abrasions on the
>> part of the head that they cover, if they're strapped down tightly enough
>> to stay in place.
>> 2. If I had a foam hat on, my neck would have bent further before my
>> shoulder took the remaining impact, because it would have made my head
>> effectively larger. Whether the neck injury would have been enough worse to
>> result in paralysis is unknown, but I'd much rather keep the scar on my
>> head than go back in time and put a foam hat on before that crash. Just
>> like Rich's friend would not want to go back in time and repeat his fall
>> without any head armor, but TBI would seem unlikely if he took a large part
>> of the impact with his hand.
>>
>> The only person I actually knew who suffered major TBI (and a fractured
>> skull) in a simple fall from a bicycle was wearing a 1980s Bell hard shell
>> helmet. It might have been a Bell Biker, but I'm fairly sure it was a Bell
>>

Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday OKRA

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Makes sense.  I use dried chillies for my heat anyway.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I think it refers more to the hotness of the curry powder, it does not
> pack much heat.  I got it at a spice shop in Houston that had 3 or 4 kinds,
> and I think I got 2 or 3.  It is similar to "Madras Curry" I find in a tin
> at the grocery.  Whole Foods (or some store like that) had some stuff in
> little packets that is fairly similar too.
>
> My wife will tolerate a bit of the curry flavor but does not like hot
> spice, so I use that to give it a nice flavor.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/13/13 3:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> That sounds very workable, although I may omit the "sweet curry
>> powder", since I don't know what that is.  Is this perhaps available in
>> the
>> Paula Dean catalog?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday OKRA

[Rich Thomas]

I think it refers more to the hotness of the curry powder, it does not 
pack much heat.  I got it at a spice shop in Houston that had 3 or 4 
kinds, and I think I got 2 or 3.  It is similar to "Madras Curry" I find 
in a tin at the grocery.  Whole Foods (or some store like that) had some 
stuff in little packets that is fairly similar too.


My wife will tolerate a bit of the curry flavor but does not like hot 
spice, so I use that to give it a nice flavor.


--R

On 8/13/13 3:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

That sounds very workable, although I may omit the "sweet curry
powder", since I don't know what that is.  Is this perhaps available in the
Paula Dean catalog?





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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Assuming a placebo effect, can get a heart attack from a placebo viagra?

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> The levels of toxic industrial chemicals that people will expose themselves
>> to in order to be more sexually attractive is really quite shocking.
>>
>
> Ask your doctor for Viagra today*!
>
> *(side effects include death from heart attack)
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT for bike geeks: Cannondale H200

[Rich Thomas]

I got hit by a Sprinter van while riding my bike.  I related the story 
of my buddy who fell and cracked his helmet.  Several of my cycling 
buddies have crashed at various times, some more than once. It is a 
virtual statistical certainty that you will crash at some point, either 
by your own (in)action or someone else's.  Those are facts.  It is also 
a fact that everyone I know who rides a bike wears a helmet, whatever 
their (in)valid reasons.  My neighbor who was a trauma surgeon rode his 
bike to work, and always wore a helmet, saying it was stupid not to, and 
he saw the results of that sort of stupidity.  The other docs I ride 
with all wear helmets, they seem like sorta half-smart people.


Wearing a helmet is a voluntary act.  Getting hit or crashing is usually 
not.  It is my personal opinion, backed up by a fair amount of anecdotal 
reality, that wearing a helmet is a better choice than not to prepare 
for the inevitable crash, but it is still your choice.  I made a strong 
suggestion based on my experience, knowledge, anecdotal evidence, and 
what I believe to be a reasonable, minimal effort thing to do that to me 
has no particular downside and a fair amount of upside.


You can make your own choice, and if it is not to wear a helmet I will 
think you are stupid, but I doubt if you care what I think (I don't 
really care much about what others think, except my wife for obvious 
reasons, so that is not an insult).


Feel free to ride your motorcycle without one too, here in SC -- we need 
more organ donors.


--R


On 8/13/13 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:


And be sure to WEAR YOUR HELMET!  I cannot stress that enough.


I've got two problems with that statement.

1. Why single out a safe and healthy activity such as cycling and 
claim it's the only daily activity that's so freaking dangerous that 
you can't do it without donning body armor? Perhaps you should 
recommend foam hats for really dangerous activities, like diving or 
climbing stairs?


2. 35 years of data have failed to give us a statistically valid 
conclusion as to whether your fatality rate increases or decreases.



 I was riding with a buddy a year ago, we were barely moving and his 
back wheel caught a gap in some road pavers, he went down hard.  
Cracked his helmet badly, got a huge hematoma on his hand, and messed 
up his shoulder.  This was from barely moving speed, just fell over 
BANG like that. 


Typical "helmet saved my life" anecdote.


His head would have been cracked like a ripe melon.


Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. His head is a lot harder to 
crack open than that foam hat was.

The only way this proof works is by circular logic:
Step 1: foam hats save lives
Step 2: since foam hats save lives, this smashed foam hat must have 
saved a life
Step 3: since the foam hat in step 2 saved a life, we now have proof 
of step 1



I'll give you another anecdote:
When I was 16, I was cranking full speed up a slight hill on my 10 
speed. Probably 85-95 rpm in ninth gear (52x17). My fork crown 
separated from my steerer tube, dumping me straight on my head. Would 
have destroyed a plain foam hat for sure, almost certainly would have 
done major damage to the real hard shell helmets that Bell made 30 
years ago.
In the absence of any body armor, it ripped loose a flap of skin on my 
head which took 11 stitches to close, and the blood flow blinded me in 
my right eye.
The impact in the right front quadrant of my head threw my head back 
and left, actually tearing muscles in the right side of my neck.


All I know for certain is:
1. If I had a foam hat on, I wouldn't have needed eleven stitches in 
my head. Foam hats are very good at protecting from surface abrasions 
on the part of the head that they cover, if they're strapped down 
tightly enough to stay in place.
2. If I had a foam hat on, my neck would have bent further before my 
shoulder took the remaining impact, because it would have made my head 
effectively larger. Whether the neck injury would have been enough 
worse to result in paralysis is unknown, but I'd much rather keep the 
scar on my head than go back in time and put a foam hat on before that 
crash. Just like Rich's friend would not want to go back in time and 
repeat his fall without any head armor, but TBI would seem unlikely if 
he took a large part of the impact with his hand.


The only person I actually knew who suffered major TBI (and a 
fractured skull) in a simple fall from a bicycle was wearing a 1980s 
Bell hard shell helmet. It might have been a Bell Biker, but I'm 
fairly sure it was a Bell Tourlite like I wore at the time. She and 
her husband were just riding along on their tandem when a dog attacked 
them. The dog took out their front wheel and they fell over sideways, 
because tandems are too long to flip over forwards like other bikes do 
when the front wheel stops turning. Spent something like six weeks in 
the hospital and was never quite the same again, but th

Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Gary Hurst]

this sounds pricey, no?


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> If anyone wants a nice W126 300SD with 130k miles there will be one for
> sale up here in Northern NJ at the end of the month.  It belongs to a
> German colleague who is going back home.  Its beige, palomino leather.
>  Overall a very nice car, no rust.  Drives well... hes currently on a 2000
> mile loop around the east coast with it.  Asking for $4800.  Biggest issue
> is the AC doesn't work.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
>
> > A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
> > What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Jaime Kopchinski]

If anyone wants a nice W126 300SD with 130k miles there will be one for
sale up here in Northern NJ at the end of the month.  It belongs to a
German colleague who is going back home.  Its beige, palomino leather.
 Overall a very nice car, no rust.  Drives well... hes currently on a 2000
mile loop around the east coast with it.  Asking for $4800.  Biggest issue
is the AC doesn't work.

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> What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


The levels of toxic industrial chemicals that people will expose themselves
to in order to be more sexually attractive is really quite shocking.


Ask your doctor for Viagra today*!

*(side effects include death from heart attack)

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Re: [MBZ] Free Autocheck

[Mitch Haley]

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1291247/m17912002#m17912002

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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Dan Penoff]

Exactly.



On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> but then you and hector teamed up to wrestle for eddie graham in tampa and
> now the rest is history
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> I liked San Bruno when I lived there. Montara was nice, too, if you want
>> an ocean view and fog.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> so do santa cruz if san francisco is too complex for you
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>> 
 I could do San Francisco depending on where it was on the peninsula. Too
 far south and it's almost tropical.
 
 Dan
 
 On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
 
> it might involve moving around . i can do florida in the winter with no
 AC
> and also do points at elevation in the blue ridge.  like i don't think
 you
> need any climate control in, say, highlands, NC for six months a year.
> 
> 
> if it had to be one place, i'd say maybe san francisco.  although i
>> lived
> in san jose for 3 years and never used any climate control either
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain
> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013 10:55 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> i'm getting more and more of the
>>> opinion that the secret to life is to
>>> always be where you don't desire any
>>> sort of climate control
>> 
>> Where would that be?  The only place I have ever lived where I didn't
 miss
>> having A/C in both home and car was Seattle.  Still need heat in the
>> winter, though.
>> 
>> The northern coast of Oregon (like right on the beach to about 10
>> miles
>> inland) never gets colder than 45 Fahrenheit or hotter than 75, but
 that's
>> probably an untenable range for most people too.  (I consider it just
 about
>> perfect. )
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Dan Penoff]

Cannon Beach?

A favorite weekend destination when I traveled those parts on business.

Dan

On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:

> On Aug 13, 2013 10:55 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>> 
>> i'm getting more and more of the
>> opinion that the secret to life is to
>> always be where you don't desire any
>> sort of climate control
> 
> Where would that be?  The only place I have ever lived where I didn't miss
> having A/C in both home and car was Seattle.  Still need heat in the
> winter, though.
> 
> The northern coast of Oregon (like right on the beach to about 10 miles
> inland) never gets colder than 45 Fahrenheit or hotter than 75, but that's
> probably an untenable range for most people too.  (I consider it just about
> perfect. )
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Gary Hurst]

but then you and hector teamed up to wrestle for eddie graham in tampa and
now the rest is history


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I liked San Bruno when I lived there. Montara was nice, too, if you want
> an ocean view and fog.
>
> Dan
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > so do santa cruz if san francisco is too complex for you
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> >> I could do San Francisco depending on where it was on the peninsula. Too
> >> far south and it's almost tropical.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >>
> >>> it might involve moving around . i can do florida in the winter with no
> >> AC
> >>> and also do points at elevation in the blue ridge.  like i don't think
> >> you
> >>> need any climate control in, say, highlands, NC for six months a year.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> if it had to be one place, i'd say maybe san francisco.  although i
> lived
> >>> in san jose for 3 years and never used any climate control either
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  On Aug 13, 2013 10:55 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> >
> > i'm getting more and more of the
> > opinion that the secret to life is to
> > always be where you don't desire any
> > sort of climate control
> 
>  Where would that be?  The only place I have ever lived where I didn't
> >> miss
>  having A/C in both home and car was Seattle.  Still need heat in the
>  winter, though.
> 
>  The northern coast of Oregon (like right on the beach to about 10
> miles
>  inland) never gets colder than 45 Fahrenheit or hotter than 75, but
> >> that's
>  probably an untenable range for most people too.  (I consider it just
> >> about
>  perfect. )
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[Dan Penoff]

I liked San Bruno when I lived there. Montara was nice, too, if you want an 
ocean view and fog.

Dan

On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> so do santa cruz if san francisco is too complex for you
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> I could do San Francisco depending on where it was on the peninsula. Too
>> far south and it's almost tropical.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> it might involve moving around . i can do florida in the winter with no
>> AC
>>> and also do points at elevation in the blue ridge.  like i don't think
>> you
>>> need any climate control in, say, highlands, NC for six months a year.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> if it had to be one place, i'd say maybe san francisco.  although i lived
>>> in san jose for 3 years and never used any climate control either
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On Aug 13, 2013 10:55 AM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
> 
> i'm getting more and more of the
> opinion that the secret to life is to
> always be where you don't desire any
> sort of climate control
 
 Where would that be?  The only place I have ever lived where I didn't
>> miss
 having A/C in both home and car was Seattle.  Still need heat in the
 winter, though.
 
 The northern coast of Oregon (like right on the beach to about 10 miles
 inland) never gets colder than 45 Fahrenheit or hotter than 75, but
>> that's
 probably an untenable range for most people too.  (I consider it just
>> about
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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

[Andrew Strasfogel]

What's wrong with tapeworm eggs?  They work for me.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:

> On Aug 13, 2013 12:46 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am told that a major life assurance
> > company will refuse to insure anyone
> > who has worked in a nail salon.
> >  Breathing in acetone makes you
> > uninsurable!
> >
>
> The levels of toxic industrial chemicals that people will expose themselves
> to in order to be more sexually attractive is really quite shocking.  We
> haven't progressed much since the days when Marie Antoinette's courtiers
> were swallowing tapeworm eggs and painting their faces with lead.
>
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Re: [MBZ] A nice '81 300 SD

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Other than the price, what's totally stupid is not taking the trouble to
fix two simple things - the clock and cigar lighter.  Makes me think there
is either a serious (undiagnosable) electrical problem or that the seller
is a moron.


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> price is outside of anything i'd consider paying for that car.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:34 PM, P. Prud'homme  wrote:
>
> > A nice 1981 300 SD, http://decatur.craigslist.org/cto/3991844724.html
> > What do you think of the price?
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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

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On Aug 13, 2013 12:46 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:
>
> I am told that a major life assurance
> company will refuse to insure anyone
> who has worked in a nail salon.
>  Breathing in acetone makes you
> uninsurable!
>

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haven't progressed much since the days when Marie Antoinette's courtiers
were swallowing tapeworm eggs and painting their faces with lead.

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Re: [MBZ] Acetone + ATF ** WAS** 240D Mystery Bolt????- UPDATE

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I am told that a major life assurance company will refuse to insure anyone
who has worked in a nail salon.  Breathing in acetone makes you uninsurable!

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Larry T wrote:
>
>> speaking of the 50:50 Acetone/ATF mix -- I heard on the news the other
>> day that some places are limiting who can buy Acetone or requiring ID - it
>> had something to do with making illegal drugs -- I won't how much
>> inconvenience we legal people must deal with because of all the druggies
>> and people who live in a world of crime?
>>
>
> Meth cooking.
> They're even talking about putting limits on nail polish remover.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Craigslister for a Monday OKRA

[Andrew Strasfogel]

That sounds very workable, although I may omit the "sweet curry
powder", since I don't know what that is.  Is this perhaps available in the
Paula Dean catalog?

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I just finished lunch of leftover shrimp gumbo I made for supper last
> night.  It was better than last night.
>
> Saute some onions in some olive oil.  Add some cut-up okra and saute that
> for awhile.  Throw in some cut-up tomatoes (I used some field tomatoes,
> which are actually pretty good this year) and garlic and let all that
> simmer until the tomatoes cook down and it thickens. Salt, pepper, hot
> sauce to taste.  I have taken to putting in some sweet curry powder but I
> am sure that would not be "authentic" but it adds a really nice flavor.
>  Have it boiling and throw in your peeled shrimp and cook another 2
> minutes.  Take off stove.
>
> Ladle over rice in a bowl and eat!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/13/13 1:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> I just thought of something.  That sauteed okra curry concept is even
>> better when curried along with diced potatoes and maybe cauliflower as
>> well.  Can add a little water to nudge things along.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > >wrote:
>>
>> Ha, I've never tried this approach.  To clarify, do you cook on MED HIGH
>>> for 10 minutes covered?  Or after lowering the flame?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>>>
>>> We slice it into 1/2" rounds, pour a little olive oil into the frying
 pan,
 set it on a medium igh burner, add the okra, stir them around a bit,
 cover
 the pan and cook for 10 minutes or so, then remove the cover and cook
 until
 no longer gooey. Yummy, un-contaminated okra taste and not slimy. Also
 works fine with the bags a frozen okra from the store - needs a bit more
 time before removing the cover on the pan.

 That having been said, I'm going to try the onions, chilis and curry
 next
 time!


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 astrasfo...@gmail.com

> wrote:
> Not if you slice the okra into 1/4" roounds and fry with chopped onions
>
 and

> chillies and a little curry powder until al dente.
>
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Re: [MBZ] more jabba

[OK Don]

Mexico City - due to the altitude (7500 ft) is stays between 65 and 80 -
the housing has neither heating nor cooling. I find that it's a bit too
cool for my taste though.

The political, etc. climate is another matter though, as is the mass of
humanity.




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