Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Well, why do you assume that rings would wear at the same rate as bearings? What if a defective oil filter was installed just prior to the big trip, and all the bearings got trashed because the oil wasn't getting filtered. Perhaps the rings, which are splash lubricated, were spared? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: April 6, 2014 11:50:08 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Yes, I would think if bearings etc were worn out, the engine would show signs of being worn out such as lots of blow by etc. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 8:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the issue suddenly occurred on a trip, and not gradually over time, I lean towards the broken something under the valve cover instead of worn bearings or oil pump. If the drive to oil pump broke, it wouldn't build pressure at all. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It is rare, but it has been known to happen. None of mine have, but I've heard of it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
Some oils will give different pressure readings, while back I changed the oil in my M103 using a mid price oil, pressure dropped to nearly zero at hot idle, didn't like that so changed the oil to my buy in bulk Diesel oil which I usually use buy did not have at the time of prior change. Voila pressure is back to 1 bar at hot idle. Hendrik who uses Diesel spec oil in everything On 07/04/14 00:15, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If it turns out in fact what I am seeing is accurate, is that pressure too low as seen in the video? On 4/6/2014 9:42 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: If anything that will either confirm that the existing gauge is good or inaccurate. I would have to believe if you get the same readings on two different gauges then you can pretty well believe what you're seeing. You just need another point of reference to figure out if the original gauge is correct or not. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 wins Jalopnik beater car beat-off
Fantastic, the price of 123's just went up a couple of hundred. Hendrik who used to own 123's and still misses them On 07/04/14 10:04, Allan Streib wrote: http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-w123-wins-the-jalopnik-march-madness-beat-1557538645 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car with disappearing doors
I think the problem was opening the doors after a crash. DB spend a few days working towards developing a door latch that could be opened after a side impact. Hendrik who has the old school type doors on his antique Benz On 07/04/14 10:44, Marshall Field wrote: Well why not? I wonder about side crash safety? http://www.flixxy.com/high-tech-car-door.htm ...Bring back Family Sunday dinner together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery Tender Jr.
Yeah and the radio don't work either, are these things related somehow. Hendrik who needs the ciggie lighter and radio when on a stalking mission On 07/04/14 05:34, Rich Thomas wrote: DAS IS NICHT IN ORDNUNG! How do you smoke your zigarettas when you are sitting waiting in the car? VE MUST GET ENGINEERING ON THIS PROBLEM RIGHT NOW! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car with disappearing doors
Cool! Weight? Complexity? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Marshall Field drspar...@gmail.com Sent: April 6, 2014 9:14:42 PM EDT To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Car with disappearing doors Well why not? I wonder about side crash safety? http://www.flixxy.com/high-tech-car-door.htm ...Bring back Family Sunday dinner together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL knock knock knocking
I doubt a bent rod would cause engine knock but it does seem that someone has messed around with the fuel system. Hendrik who does not mess with things he knows nothing about, except women On 03/04/14 21:42, Dan Penoff wrote: I just asked him in the thread. Let's see what he says. The original thread about the knocking was never closed, so it's unknown if there was a resolution. Knowing little about these engines, were you suggesting it's knocking due to a bent rod? Thanks for catching that, Hendrik. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Batteries can go bad early, have you charged it and then disconnected it? Hendrik who has too many batteries On 04/04/14 00:52, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
It seems to be a vicious cycle, people get paid less (in real terms) thus have to cut costs. Purchasing gets concentrated into a few big box stores, these stores have the power to set lower wages thus the wages drop further. Hendrik who has to brew his own beer as it is getting too pricey to buy, perhaps Wilton will share some tobacco growing tips as well On 04/04/14 02:02, Randy Bennell wrote: Well, one way or the other we all pay. If Walmart paid higher wages the prices in the store would be higher so it would cost you more when you bought goods. (and don't tell me you don't shop there so it does not relate to you - competition is such that if Walmart's prices were higher, then prices would likely be higher where you do shop) You get to contribute to the monies going to the employees in one way or the other, so at the end of the day, it likely does not matter much. So stop worrying about things you cannot change and be happy! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
We have a minimum wage that people earn, it's not a hell of a lot but it's better than letting employers do what they want. There are also awards in place to define holiday pay and such. Problem is that wages are not keeping up with inflation, a lot of which is caused by increases in utilities and fines. Hendrik who is not spending as much as he did On 04/04/14 04:53, clay wrote: Walmart was the trojan horse the orientals used to take over Amerika. It stole the manufacturing jobs that supported the middle class, poisoned the low wage earners with low value (in both quality and price) goods, and robbed the treasury of taxes, and over whelms the entitlement programs. I have not idea the impact down under, but I am sure it is just as bad. clay On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Well depends from which angle you look at it, obviously wallymartian bosses (we shall call them the enslavers)will be loving paying 3/4 of stuff all for someone to stack the shelves with quality merchandise from the mysterious orient. The governmentalists will be liking the way it keeps the unemployment rate down and if these people where not slaving away in the big box, they would probably be robbing you and me, or selling crack to the local kindergarden kids, or getting your sister pregnant with future walmartian workers. Hendrik who does not have a walmart nearby, we have Big W which is sort of like that ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
OK so we are not part of the gang anymore? Fine, no vegemite for you. Hendrik who may join a low quality Chinese Merc list as a protest On 04/04/14 09:00, Curt Raymond wrote: You're right of course but the solution is deceptively simple. Don't shop there. Buy a smaller amount of high quality items. TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. Buy them high quality made in the west (so USA, Canada, Europe) items so they see how good they are. Help people know that they don't need all that junk and that they can actually live better without it. An example I'm completely taken with Darn Tough socks http://darntough.com/ made in Vermont they're about the best socks I've ever had. They're Merino wool, warm in the winter, cool in the summer. I have both the hike/trek and lifestyle. VERY expensive I pay as much for 1 pair as I'd have paid for a dozen cheap white tube socks but they're a joy to wear. When I only had one pair I looked forward to the day each week when I get to wear them. Now I have 4 or 5 pairs and I'm annoyed on the days they're all in the wash. I won't go back to cheap socks, my feet are too important to me. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I bet this is slowly gathering speed
Yes up a hill with a load it would be working, especially through a slush box. And what is with the funky two tone paint job and front seat mismatch? But remember it has easily maintained reliable bombproofness and will do a million miles. Hendrik who had an S123 for a while On 04/04/14 11:59, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/4404475853.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car Darts
Ahh D-jet hell, does this German car shop have good knowledge of D-Jet? However generally backfiring is unburnt fuel exploding in the exhaust pipes, thus it's most likely ignition related. Perhaps ask around and see if you can find an old school Merc tech who actually worked on these cars back in the day. They are getting rarer and towards retirement age, we still have a couple here but they are not spring chickens anymore. If worst comes to worst you can drop in a K-jet 450, I should think that a 116 would be cheap enough with a bit of rust. Hendrik who backfires all day long On 04/04/14 14:31, clay wrote: These old cars are a pain in the posterior. Froggy has been having the farts (Backfiring) for a while. We have discussed it here a few times with all manner of solutions mentioned. I decided to see what another indy would find. I had attended a club meeting at a German car shop that was trying to get more attention from Benz owners. I had Froggy up on the lift at that gathering and minor issues were found, like that trans leak. They offer an oil change package that includes a 130 point inspection and all you pay for are the filter and fluids. At the end, you get a very nicely printed report of all the niggling and large items needing attention. Frosch has a few leaks at the front seal, differential, and on the trans cooler hose. The fuel delivery problem/back firing was the issue I wanted addressed, so there were a few days used trying to get that dealt with. New spark wires to replace the utter garbage I got from Q two years ago. Bosch wires are crap that fell apart at the boots. So far five of the eight failed. New distributor points were installed, though my other indy had claimed to have done the same. They checked a few other items and got the thing running the best it will until I can source fresh injectors and trigger points. Estimate is $5k for that job. I do have a set of used injectors that could be tested and cleaned, then installed to deal with the sloppy spray pattern on the installed ones. Anybody think the trigger points can be rebuilt? Maybe if I had one or two from donor cars. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
your stuff is going straight to my spam filter for being sent from an address other than stated, so something is up with your email On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: 'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
hey, your guys loved him so he must have been good! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Like the old parts man that knew every part number in his head. I bet Trent is like that. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: every town used to have the great old hardware store with inventory of oddities dating back often to the 19th century. along with the great old hardware store came the great old hardware man who knew in his head where every screw in the store was those were better days for me On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was never so excited as the day an Ace Hardware opened in a nearby strip mall that also has a Walmart. They have the majik boxes that contain all sorts of odd, weird and unique fasteners and hardware. They are far more expensive than the four big box (Lowes Home Despot) that are within 7 miles of my house, but I can get what I need there, get in and out, and it's only a few minutes away. Plus they have free popcorn. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 04/04/2014 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: My grandparents lived outside a smallish town in KY. I was there once and wanted to build some steps for their house. So my dad and I go off and hit the 2 lumberyards in town to get some deck screws and treated lumber. Neither store had deck screws. So off to 2 hardware stores, huhwhatchootalkinabout? No deck screws in town so I ended up using galvanized nails which they had. This whole ordeal took most of the morning and I still did not get what I wanted and what should have been easily available. Now they have a Lowes and a Walmart and the places are overrun most of the time because you can go in there and get what you need and get out and not pay the usurious monopolistic limited-selection prices. Even the Amish like going there over the local spots. --R I do have to say that I am impressed by the inventory that is carried by Menard's and Lowes in the USA. Home Depot too but I don't get there as often as there isn't one in Grand Forks, ND. There is in Fargo, ND and I get there about once each year, usually in August. Not the same in Canada. We have Home Depot here in Winnipeg and there are at least 5 or 6 stores scattered around the city. They seem to have limited their stock more than in the USA. Things like bolts drive me crazy. Not easy to buy something like 7/16 any more. 3/8 or 1/2 but not the ones in between. Try to buy fine thread. They had this sort of thing when they opened but they have since limited it to the more standard sizes. Maybe their computers tell them no one buys that stuff but they used to have it and it makes my angry that they no longer do. I know business is about making money but service has declined in many ways. I could go on all day but another item that seems to be disappearing is ordinary copper plumbing fittings. They want to sell shark bite to the numb folks who cannot fix anything in a proper way. The trades folks seem to be willing to swallow this too as it saves them a second or two and time is money. The shark bit fittings cost umpteen times as much as a normal fitting that one would solder so they make more money on the parts markup too. Call me old fashioned but I don't trust the shark bit fittings. Might be ok in an exposed spot so long as whatever is around it won't be damaged if it starts to leak, but I don't intend to put it inside a wall. I have embraced pex to some extent so I am not totally prehistoric but even then I wonder about how long plastic is intended to last. I hope I am old enough that I won't have to worry about it in my own home. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
That could be a possibility as well. I'm going to pull valve cover, if I see nothing I'm going to pull the pan again and pull a bearing. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:00 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, why do you assume that rings would wear at the same rate as bearings? What if a defective oil filter was installed just prior to the big trip, and all the bearings got trashed because the oil wasn't getting filtered. Perhaps the rings, which are splash lubricated, were spared? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: April 6, 2014 11:50:08 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Yes, I would think if bearings etc were worn out, the engine would show signs of being worn out such as lots of blow by etc. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2014, at 8:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Given that the issue suddenly occurred on a trip, and not gradually over time, I lean towards the broken something under the valve cover instead of worn bearings or oil pump. If the drive to oil pump broke, it wouldn't build pressure at all. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: It is rare, but it has been known to happen. None of mine have, but I've heard of it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Re-sent, maybe it will go through this time? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Fw: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
I saw that the first time you sent it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Re-sent, maybe it will go through this time? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Fw: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Copy that. I got it the first time. On Apr 7, 2014 10:13 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Re-sent, maybe it will go through this time? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Fw: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Kaleb, Dwight. Thank you for the info. It does not show up here, only the post acknowledgment. Not in the other folders either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update I saw that the first time you sent it Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Re-sent, maybe it will go through this time? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Fw: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Batteries can go bad early, have you charged it and then disconnected it? Hendrik who has too many batteries On 04/04/14 00:52, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So when I got home yesterday afternoon the car would not start. Turned a little, but died. I am leaning toward the battery won't hold a charge explanation. The battery was only slightly drained, jsut enough to prevent starting. Tonight I will the glove box door, which I doubt is the problem. If it isn't, and there are no other obvious answers, the low hanging fruit picking approach has me remove the battery and take it to Sears. They can test it and if it's unable to take a charge I will simply trade it in for one of their totally awesome 850 CCA Diehards. I will from that point live happily ever after. Once the battery problem has been solved and I can drive the '85 300TD again, I will start a new thread about whining (it's not what you think). Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
WT[banned sixth letter of the alphabet] is Vegemite made of? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: OK so we are not part of the gang anymore? Fine, no vegemite for you. Hendrik who may join a low quality Chinese Merc list as a protest On 04/04/14 09:00, Curt Raymond wrote: You're right of course but the solution is deceptively simple. Don't shop there. Buy a smaller amount of high quality items. TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. Buy them high quality made in the west (so USA, Canada, Europe) items so they see how good they are. Help people know that they don't need all that junk and that they can actually live better without it. An example I'm completely taken with Darn Tough socks http://darntough.com/ made in Vermont they're about the best socks I've ever had. They're Merino wool, warm in the winter, cool in the summer. I have both the hike/trek and lifestyle. VERY expensive I pay as much for 1 pair as I'd have paid for a dozen cheap white tube socks but they're a joy to wear. When I only had one pair I looked forward to the day each week when I get to wear them. Now I have 4 or 5 pairs and I'm annoyed on the days they're all in the wash. I won't go back to cheap socks, my feet are too important to me. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update
On 07/04/2014 7:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That could be a possibility as well. I'm going to pull valve cover, if I see nothing I'm going to pull the pan again and pull a bearing. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:00 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Well, why do you assume that rings would wear at the same rate as bearings? What if a defective oil filter was installed just prior to the big trip, and all the bearings got trashed because the oil wasn't getting filtered. Perhaps the rings, which are splash lubricated, were spared? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC I do not know enough about exactly how the oil system works but I really wonder about the clean oil. My 76 300D makes the oil black in seconds. I change the oil and start it for a minute and then shut it off to check the level. The oil is always black immediately. I therefore have to wonder if the oil is not circulating as intended. The fact that the pressure starts out ok and then falls as the engine warms and also rises when the engine speed is increased would indicate that the pump is pumping in my mind, so I cannot help but think that there is some other answer. I do think that the pressure should be checked with a test gauge. I also do not think I would run it much until I got a gauge and tested to see what the pressure is. The broken cam tower is an interesting thought but would not explain why the oil does not turn black. I do hope this gets sorted and the answer is determined since I have a very similar engine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On 07/04/2014 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. Or, as I suggested earlier, the battery went dead and then froze. A charged battery will not freeze. An uncharged one will and that normally kills them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
But it DID take a charge, and held it for a day. Those Diehards are tough to kill. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 07/04/2014 10:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yes, and the car starts like a lighjt switch with the new battery. In hindsight, the battery was already on its last legs before our brutally cold winter took it out entirely. Or, as I suggested earlier, the battery went dead and then froze. A charged battery will not freeze. An uncharged one will and that normally kills them. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Vietnamese clay pot
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A little while ago, SWMBO brought home a beautiful glazed clay pot for a small maple tree on our side terrace/patio. 'Couldn't help but wonder if I might have stirred up some of the clay in that pot with the MANY (8,424) bombs I dropped on 'em in last half of '72. BTW, one can view on Google Earth some of the craters that I may have left near Radio Hanoi transmission towers off the SW corner of Hanoi. Obviously, the craters that are still visible in the fields nearby missed the towers. Just out of curiosity, how many missions does 8,424 represent? That's a lot of time in the air, glad you made it home! The pot is very heavy. SWMBO wondered how they were able to produce it, transport it and sell it to her for only $19. The potter probably got only a very few cents. According to a random internet shipping company, you can ship a 40' container from Ho Chi Minh City to Los Angeles for $2033, plus fees. 20' containers were somewhat cheaper, but not half. I'm not sure what the maximum weight is but given that they ship cars and whatnot I'm sure you could get a lot of pots in one container. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
*It's easier to get a Harvard PhD than to become a Walmart greeter?* When Walmart is more exclusive than Harvard The Week Staff | April 6, 2014 New college admissions statistics reveal that it's easier to get into an Ivy League college than to land a job at Walmart or Google. The eight Ivy schools accepted just 8.9 percent of applicants last year. But a Washington, D.C., Walmart hired just 2.6 percent of 23,000 job seekers when it opened in 2013. Google, meanwhile, hires just 0.5 percent of applicants. http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/259299/when-walmart-is-more-exclusive-than-harvard# -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
What Gary said, your emails are arriving in my spam filter as well. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: your stuff is going straight to my spam filter for being sent from an address other than stated, so something is up with your email On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: 'ello 'ello 'ello! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Marked as spam again --- On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Re-sent, maybe it will go through this time? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Fw: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update Kaleb, et alia. After thinking about your problem oil pressure scenario, I have a few observations to share. (The delete key is you know where.) The video of the oil pressure vs the engine speed was thought provoking as usually on 617 engines there is an over capacity of pumped oil, enough to peg the meter by approx. 1000 rpm hot. The conclusions that I came to were:- I. There is some restriction in the oil pickup circuit to starve the pump of sufficient oil thus the low oil pressure, or an air leak reducing the pumps ability to suck up enough oil at lower rpm. You had stated that the oil pressure relief spring was OK, did you make sure that the valve behind the spring actually closed off the bypass port? Oil filter O rings? Worn pump or shrunken O rings? 2. There is some massive leak in the oil delivery circuit beyond which the oil pump is unable to supply enough oil until the engine turns 3000 rpm plus. Internal leaks as described by other Listers. Badly worn bearings, broken or cracked cam towers, gasket failure allowing oil to go elsewhere than designed. The cam tower oil delivery pipe is loose or fell off. I'm assuming that this is a non turbo, so no oil squirts that may have failed? YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 300D low oil pressure update I will still pull the valve cover and see what is going on there. Otherwise, this thing seems about like a brand new motor, no blowby, oil stays clean even after running it a bit. I am perplexed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
DIYers heaven (not just Mercedes DIYers) would be a Walmart on the corner, a Home Depot to the right, an Ace Hardware to the left, and the DIYers house and shop behind the three. Gerry On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was never so excited as the day an Ace Hardware opened in a nearby strip mall that also has a Walmart. They have the majik boxes that contain all sorts of odd, weird and unique fasteners and hardware. They are far more expensive than the four big box (Lowes Home Despot) that are within 7 miles of my house, but I can get what I need there, get in and out, and it's only a few minutes away. Plus they have free popcorn. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
That's quite a paradox. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: *It's easier to get a Harvard PhD than to become a Walmart greeter?* When Walmart is more exclusive than Harvard The Week Staff | April 6, 2014 New college admissions statistics reveal that it's easier to get into an Ivy League college than to land a job at Walmart or Google. The eight Ivy schools accepted just 8.9 percent of applicants last year. But a Washington, D.C., Walmart hired just 2.6 percent of 23,000 job seekers when it opened in 2013. Google, meanwhile, hires just 0.5 percent of applicants. http://theweek.com/article/flipbook/259299/when-walmart-is-more-exclusive-than-harvard# -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Vietnamese clay pot
That's only 78 missions over Vietnam at 108 five-hundred and seven-hundred-fifty-pound conventional bombs per mission. 'Bout 500 flight hours, much of it back and forth from Guam; rest of it out of Thailand. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vietnamese clay pot On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A little while ago, SWMBO brought home a beautiful glazed clay pot for a small maple tree on our side terrace/patio. 'Couldn't help but wonder if I might have stirred up some of the clay in that pot with the MANY (8,424) bombs I dropped on 'em in last half of '72. BTW, one can view on Google Earth some of the craters that I may have left near Radio Hanoi transmission towers off the SW corner of Hanoi. Obviously, the craters that are still visible in the fields nearby missed the towers. Just out of curiosity, how many missions does 8,424 represent? That's a lot of time in the air, glad you made it home! The pot is very heavy. SWMBO wondered how they were able to produce it, transport it and sell it to her for only $19. The potter probably got only a very few cents. According to a random internet shipping company, you can ship a 40' container from Ho Chi Minh City to Los Angeles for $2033, plus fees. 20' containers were somewhat cheaper, but not half. I'm not sure what the maximum weight is but given that they ship cars and whatnot I'm sure you could get a lot of pots in one container. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
I had a look at the manual over lunch. 18-005 suggests that where there is insufficient oil pressure, one should check whether oil pressure relief valve has dropped from oil pump or has become loose. In both cases, coat threads on oil pressure relief valve with sealing compound, part no 002 989 94 74 and screw in. 18-215 notes that there are different pressure relief valves and suggests that one can use version C as a remedy if there is a pressure drop at idle below 2 bar with cold oil or below 1 bar with warm oil. It may have come with type B which has a shark mouth diagonal slot whereas type C has an oval hole . Type C is 5 bar gauge pressure while type B is 8 bar. Type B is part # 616 180 00 15 and type C is 115 180 02 15. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Mine was nice and tight, and appeared to move properly. Maybe I should try a differnt one but will check top end first, then pull a bearing and see what it looks like. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I had a look at the manual over lunch. 18-005 suggests that where there is insufficient oil pressure, one should check whether oil pressure relief valve has dropped from oil pump or has become loose. In both cases, coat threads on oil pressure relief valve with sealing compound, part no 002 989 94 74 and screw in. 18-215 notes that there are different pressure relief valves and suggests that one can use version C as a remedy if there is a pressure drop at idle below 2 bar with cold oil or below 1 bar with warm oil. It may have come with type B which has a shark mouth diagonal slot whereas type C has an oval hole . Type C is 5 bar gauge pressure while type B is 8 bar. Type B is part # 616 180 00 15 and type C is 115 180 02 15. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Get the gauge and verify the real oil pressure first. Randy On 07/04/2014 2:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Mine was nice and tight, and appeared to move properly. Maybe I should try a differnt one but will check top end first, then pull a bearing and see what it looks like. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I had a look at the manual over lunch. 18-005 suggests that where there is insufficient oil pressure, one should check whether oil pressure relief valve has dropped from oil pump or has become loose. In both cases, coat threads on oil pressure relief valve with sealing compound, part no 002 989 94 74 and screw in. 18-215 notes that there are different pressure relief valves and suggests that one can use version C as a remedy if there is a pressure drop at idle below 2 bar with cold oil or below 1 bar with warm oil. It may have come with type B which has a shark mouth diagonal slot whereas type C has an oval hole . Type C is 5 bar gauge pressure while type B is 8 bar. Type B is part # 616 180 00 15 and type C is 115 180 02 15. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
I think someone already suggested this..several times. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Get the gauge and verify the real oil pressure first. Randy On 07/04/2014 2:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Mine was nice and tight, and appeared to move properly. Maybe I should try a differnt one but will check top end first, then pull a bearing and see what it looks like. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I had a look at the manual over lunch. 18-005 suggests that where there is insufficient oil pressure, one should check whether oil pressure relief valve has dropped from oil pump or has become loose. In both cases, coat threads on oil pressure relief valve with sealing compound, part no 002 989 94 74 and screw in. 18-215 notes that there are different pressure relief valves and suggests that one can use version C as a remedy if there is a pressure drop at idle below 2 bar with cold oil or below 1 bar with warm oil. It may have come with type B which has a shark mouth diagonal slot whereas type C has an oval hole . Type C is 5 bar gauge pressure while type B is 8 bar. Type B is part # 616 180 00 15 and type C is 115 180 02 15. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 76 300D low oil pressure update
Yes Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Get the gauge and verify the real oil pressure first. Randy On 07/04/2014 2:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Mine was nice and tight, and appeared to move properly. Maybe I should try a differnt one but will check top end first, then pull a bearing and see what it looks like. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I had a look at the manual over lunch. 18-005 suggests that where there is insufficient oil pressure, one should check whether oil pressure relief valve has dropped from oil pump or has become loose. In both cases, coat threads on oil pressure relief valve with sealing compound, part no 002 989 94 74 and screw in. 18-215 notes that there are different pressure relief valves and suggests that one can use version C as a remedy if there is a pressure drop at idle below 2 bar with cold oil or below 1 bar with warm oil. It may have come with type B which has a shark mouth diagonal slot whereas type C has an oval hole . Type C is 5 bar gauge pressure while type B is 8 bar. Type B is part # 616 180 00 15 and type C is 115 180 02 15. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Linux and Virtualbox Question
Hi all: I have a ThinkPad T60 with XP set up in a docking station on the kitchen counter. It is only really used for browser and Mastercook. The Mastercook database is on a drive connected to the router, so all computers can access it. I want to ditch XP because of the security issues with the end of support, but don't want to pay for yet another W7 license. My questions are: 1.If I run XP in a virtualbox under Linux, does that provide the internet security I get with linux? 2.I am used to running Ubuntu as a dual boot. Is there another distro that is more-or-less as user friendly as Ubuntu that will work better for this setup? 3.If I were to run a dual boot instead, is there a simple way to enable access to the network drive but disable internet access when booting into XP? TIA for any comments. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Car Darts
I was checking this shop out because my other indy, who is Benz trained and old enough that he worked on them is less than helpful in nailing down the full set of issues the car has. The new to me shop is more modern and clean. Instead of a simple hand written explanation of what they did, the new folks give a report and keep it as part of their database. Old guy has to keep it all in his head, and no longer works on the cars, just lets his apprentice do the wrenching. Also, not really good about getting estimates of future work. I have a bunch of D-jet injectors I can have spiffed up, and can find a PnP trigger/pulse gen set up to clean and install. What I am thinking is that I should look at the volvo boys who are keeping the old boxes on the road. Swedish econobox cars are big in Seattle. There are a few old shops that can figure this stuff out. clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Ahh D-jet hell, does this German car shop have good knowledge of D-Jet? However generally backfiring is unburnt fuel exploding in the exhaust pipes, thus it's most likely ignition related. Perhaps ask around and see if you can find an old school Merc tech who actually worked on these cars back in the day. They are getting rarer and towards retirement age, we still have a couple here but they are not spring chickens anymore. If worst comes to worst you can drop in a K-jet 450, I should think that a 116 would be cheap enough with a bit of rust. Hendrik who backfires all day long On 04/04/14 14:31, clay wrote: These old cars are a pain in the posterior. Froggy has been having the farts (Backfiring) for a while. We have discussed it here a few times with all manner of solutions mentioned. I decided to see what another indy would find. I had attended a club meeting at a German car shop that was trying to get more attention from Benz owners. I had Froggy up on the lift at that gathering and minor issues were found, like that trans leak. They offer an oil change package that includes a 130 point inspection and all you pay for are the filter and fluids. At the end, you get a very nicely printed report of all the niggling and large items needing attention. Frosch has a few leaks at the front seal, differential, and on the trans cooler hose. The fuel delivery problem/back firing was the issue I wanted addressed, so there were a few days used trying to get that dealt with. New spark wires to replace the utter garbage I got from Q two years ago. Bosch wires are crap that fell apart at the boots. So far five of the eight failed. New distributor points were installed, though my other indy had claimed to have done the same. They checked a few other items and got the thing running the best it will until I can source fresh injectors and trigger points. Estimate is $5k for that job. I do have a set of used injectors that could be tested and cleaned, then installed to deal with the sloppy spray pattern on the installed ones. Anybody think the trigger points can be rebuilt? Maybe if I had one or two from donor cars. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a swift demise from lead poisoning clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
And he can afford a publicist - impressive! On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:40 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a swift demise from lead poisoning clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government.. I am simply making observations based on three things. First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does repeat it's self. Second: I see and hear a rising tide of unhappy citizens expressing displeasure with government oppression. Third: The founding fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights were well experienced in government oppression and wisely established that there would be opportunity to peacefully revolt through the ballot box at every election cycle. Further, that should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to speak freely against and have legal redress against government. Further should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to arms to take action to defend against oppressive government.. and defense of self and property. I apparently incorrectly presumed the above was self evident to all Citizens. My sincere apology. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a swift demise from lead poisoning clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux and Virtualbox Question
From my limited Linux experience, the XP takes precedence, and Linux will offer no security in a virtual box. I would look at WINE or another interpreter that will allow you to run the software under Linux. Then you get all the goodness of Ubuntu, with the program you like. The apps are meant for games, but should be more than enough for a simple cooking DB On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Hi all: I have a ThinkPad T60 with XP set up in a docking station on the kitchen counter. It is only really used for browser and Mastercook. The Mastercook database is on a drive connected to the router, so all computers can access it. I want to ditch XP because of the security issues with the end of support, but don't want to pay for yet another W7 license. My questions are: 1.If I run XP in a virtualbox under Linux, does that provide the internet security I get with linux? 2.I am used to running Ubuntu as a dual boot. Is there another distro that is more-or-less as user friendly as Ubuntu that will work better for this setup? 3.If I were to run a dual boot instead, is there a simple way to enable access to the network drive but disable internet access when booting into XP? TIA for any comments. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
If the residents of the rest of the world are getting up in arms over the evils of corrupt gooberment, the lazy folks of Amrika are bound to take to the streets to protest in some form or other. You can march on Wall Street as one of the 99%, be a Tea Party pooper, or do the WTO protest dance. In time, the extremes will converge at the middle, and balkanize into fiefdoms instead of being beholden to corporate pawns in the Potomac swamplands. clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 1:58 PM, G Mann wrote: For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government.. I am simply making observations based on three things. First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does repeat it's self. Second: I see and hear a rising tide of unhappy citizens expressing displeasure with government oppression. Third: The founding fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights were well experienced in government oppression and wisely established that there would be opportunity to peacefully revolt through the ballot box at every election cycle. Further, that should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to speak freely against and have legal redress against government. Further should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to arms to take action to defend against oppressive government.. and defense of self and property. I apparently incorrectly presumed the above was self evident to all Citizens. My sincere apology. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I think G is calling the future as he sees it unfolding. He wants to know if he should expect a lingering death at the hands of massive medical or a swift demise from lead poisoning clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux and Virtualbox Question
3.If I were to run a dual boot instead, is there a simple way to enable access to the network drive but disable internet access when booting into XP? TIA for any comments. Greg If you did a dual boot and just disabled the network card on the devices window of XP, you should end up with an isolated XP installation, then still have network access when you boot linux. If you still want access to the network drive but not internet, I'd set up a router/switch and put that machine and the network drive on that little subnet. You'd need a routing table on the other side to access the network drive from the main network though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux and Virtualbox Question
What if he just disabled ports 80 and 443 on the VM? That way he would still have network connectivity and not Internet for the most part. The other suggestion would be to enable Windows firewall and block Internet traffic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 7, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: 3.If I were to run a dual boot instead, is there a simple way to enable access to the network drive but disable internet access when booting into XP? TIA for any comments. Greg If you did a dual boot and just disabled the network card on the devices window of XP, you should end up with an isolated XP installation, then still have network access when you boot linux. If you still want access to the network drive but not internet, I'd set up a router/switch and put that machine and the network drive on that little subnet. You'd need a routing table on the other side to access the network drive from the main network though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
the tea party types like this kind of tough talk, but i wouldn't take it so seriously as most of them have earned their wealth connected to the government teet and there is no way they will ever actually bite the hand that feeds them On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Are you advocating for the violent overthroew of our government? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:29 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've really enjoyed all this discussion about obamacare/aca. After giving it all a good look, actually reading the original bill, as signed, and [to best effort] understanding it, then watching the discussion here I've come to two possible courses of action. 1. Die a lingering death waiting for approval of treatment under obamacare/aca, or being refused said care because of my advancing age and no longer being a contributing member to the advancement of society [death panel action]. or 2. Die in the coming revolution while trying to effect substantive change in the current runaway government. Pick one.. does that about sum-ate the options? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you're a common folk who makes over 60K or so, and are under 65 yrs old, and not covered by insurance, POTUS has made it such that you are going to get shafted. For the first years you can take the hit on income tax, fines for not purchasing a product ( a first, in my opinion ) and that hit will not be so bad. But it escalates pretty fast, and soon you will be paying seriously for your lack of purchase. If you're over 65 then you're on medicare, and that's free unless you want doctor coverage. Doctor coverage is not so bad, as health insurance goes, and neither is the drug insurance, compared to what the same costs are in private industry insurance, on average. If you never buy drugs, then the drug insurance is a waste of money. You get to re-do every year, so the worst that will happen is you get a year of high bills from the pharmacy. Taking a Gary position, I'm sure glad the government does not require me to buy all the Chia Pets on TV. But there is *no* difference between this and ACA, in my opinion. On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Richard wrote: Oh, and they have great healtcare and retirement benefits. And what can be done by the common folks? Be a ghost as much as possible possible. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post.
[MBZ] dejections
i roll out of bed this morning to four messages. woohoo, it's gonna be a good day! number 1 was something from the public schools number 2 wanted to interest me in a home security system number 3 wanted to interest me in a new roof number 4 wanted a motorcycle part bah :( -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Vietnamese clay pot
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: A little while ago, SWMBO brought home a beautiful glazed clay pot for a small maple tree on our side terrace/patio. 'Couldn't help but wonder if I might have stirred up some of the clay in that pot with the MANY (8,424) bombs I dropped on 'em in last half of '72. BTW, one can view on Google Earth some of the craters that I may have left near Radio Hanoi transmission towers off the SW corner of Hanoi. Obviously, the craters that are still visible in the fields nearby missed the towers. Just out of curiosity, how many missions does 8,424 represent? That's a lot of time in the air, glad you made it home! The pot is very heavy. SWMBO wondered how they were able to produce it, transport it and sell it to her for only $19. The potter probably got only a very few cents. According to a random internet shipping company, you can ship a 40' container from Ho Chi Minh City to Los Angeles for $2033, plus fees. 20' containers were somewhat cheaper, but not half. I'm not sure what the maximum weight is but given that they ship cars and whatnot I'm sure you could get a lot of pots in one container. Best, Tim ___ Around 50,000 lb per container, generally. also most are now 48 or 53' ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Spiders in the gas tank
CNN just submitted a repeat of the previous Mazda Spider story. Whoops! We wuz wrong. Gerry http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/06/autos/mazda-spiders-recall/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spiders in the gas tank
BBC has pushing the Mazda spiders in the tank story clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:25 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: CNN just submitted a repeat of the previous Mazda Spider story. Whoops! We wuz wrong. Gerry http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/06/autos/mazda-spiders-recall/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spiders in the gas tank
Hahaha I punked all of us with my faux/true story On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 6:32 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: BBC has pushing the Mazda spiders in the tank story clay On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:25 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: CNN just submitted a repeat of the previous Mazda Spider story. Whoops! We wuz wrong. Gerry http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/06/autos/mazda-spiders-recall/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html Short summary: yahoo.com broke most list email delivery. OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: What Gary said, your emails are arriving in my spam filter as well. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: your stuff is going straight to my spam filter for being sent from an address other than stated, so something is up with your email ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test
On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 19:43:41 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html Short summary: yahoo.com broke most list email delivery. From the end of the article: - Suggestions: * Suspend posting permission of all yahoo.com addresses, to limit damage * Tell Yahoo users to get a new mail account somewhere else, pronto, if they want to continue using mailing lists * If you know people at Yahoo, ask if perhaps this wasn't such a good idea - Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1982 300SD Photos
They're not great, but here are some pictures of my former 1982 300SD when it came back from the paint shop. Gives you an idea what it's like to field strip one of these cars https://www.dropbox.com/s/z6irkcz5a5vsssm/Scan-140407-0001.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/8h8x6va550fapce/Scan-140407-0002.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0dfhtk0311uj8b/Scan-140407-0004.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/02az8swo13qxnn7/Scan-140407-0005.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/ti7f3pjkgqtazdb/Scan-140407-0006.jpg Found some of my former 1971 VW restoration, too. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1971 VW Convertible
This was my $400 restoration. We've all had at least one of these, admit it. A project you get so far into you'll never get out. I'm almost ashamed to say what I put into it total, suffice that it was very low five figures. Ouch. A teachable moment if there ever was one. Note that the shop it is in in Sheboygan, WI, was the original building that belonged to the Krueger family. The old dude in the background is the son of the founder, who originally started out as a carriage builder and repair shop after the Civil War, which morphed into auto body repairs after the introduction of the horseless carriage. Electricity was an afterthought in this building. What you can't see is the big ramp on the outside of the building that they used to get carriages into the shop on the second floor. If you look closely you can see the wooden floors. Sadly, when the old man passed the building was sold and razed. When I got it for $400. You can't see the Fred Flintstone front floors: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3nr9pk04hsdorm/Scan-140407-0014.jpg In Krueger's shop, where it had over 300 hours of work done on it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/23q8bj1k7yx07xh/Scan-140407-0012.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4celq8crp5hf9q/Scan-140407-0010.jpg The finished product: https://www.dropbox.com/s/em1wrww5pm3q4fn/71vwvert.jpg Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] List needs a shove?
So first Fred starts having problems, then I miss out on 2 digests. They're not in my spam folder... Anybody got digests 47 and 48 they could forward me. Apparently a lot happened in them since 49 doesn't make any sense to me. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Ranger brakes
Hate to interrupt your political discussions but I did the front brakes on the Ranger today. I'd taken today off as a recuperation day after spending last week in Las Vegas for work (thats what we call drinking and talking to girls when the bosses ask) and as the weather was decent I figured I ought to tackle it. My records indicate the Akebono's were on there for right around 60,000 miles, in 5 years, which isn't bad considering the rough service the truck has handled. I replaced them with WearEver from my local Car Quest. The Akebono's were completely worn out, the driver's side inner was down to metal, the inner almost so. The passenger side was a bit of a pig, the brake rotor wouldn't come off the hub. I tried heating it with my plumbers torch but that doesn't really have enough heat for the job. In the end I scored the front face carefully cutting around the studs and then cut all the way around to remove that front face. Once I'd cut all the way around a quick rap with the hammer popped the two pieces off. I was VERY relieved when that happened... Then the dust cover had rusted apart around one bolt and was hitting the rotor. Thats a Ford only part and silly expensive for what it is. It'll take a few days so in the meantime I found a washer slightly larger than the rusted part. I ordered the replacement cover but might return it as my quick fix seems good. The driver's side was simplicity itself other than one caliper bolt rounding off, I just pounded the next size down socket on and it came right out. The break in instructions were interesting, it said to take it up to 30mph, then stop, wait 30 seconds and repeat 30 times. No high speed, no panic stops. After 10 repetitions I got bored, I'll do some more tomorrow. Brake feel is excellent, its interesting how low the pedal gets without your really noticing until you fix it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Ranger brakes
'Nother ATTABOY, and please interrupt the political discussions at every opportunity. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Ranger brakes Hate to interrupt your political discussions but I did the front brakes on the Ranger today. I'd taken today off as a recuperation day after spending last week in Las Vegas for work (thats what we call drinking and talking to girls when the bosses ask) and as the weather was decent I figured I ought to tackle it. My records indicate the Akebono's were on there for right around 60,000 miles, in 5 years, which isn't bad considering the rough service the truck has handled. I replaced them with WearEver from my local Car Quest. The Akebono's were completely worn out, the driver's side inner was down to metal, the inner almost so. The passenger side was a bit of a pig, the brake rotor wouldn't come off the hub. I tried heating it with my plumbers torch but that doesn't really have enough heat for the job. In the end I scored the front face carefully cutting around the studs and then cut all the way around to remove that front face. Once I'd cut all the way around a quick rap with the hammer popped the two pieces off. I was VERY relieved when that happened... Then the dust cover had rusted apart around one bolt and was hitting the rotor. Thats a Ford only part and silly expensive for what it is. It'll take a few days so in the meantime I found a washer slightly larger than the rusted part. I ordered the replacement cover but might return it as my quick fix seems good. The driver's side was simplicity itself other than one caliper bolt rounding off, I just pounded the next size down socket on and it came right out. The break in instructions were interesting, it said to take it up to 30mph, then stop, wait 30 seconds and repeat 30 times. No high speed, no panic stops. After 10 repetitions I got bored, I'll do some more tomorrow. Brake feel is excellent, its interesting how low the pedal gets without your really noticing until you fix it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Ranger brakes
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:30:48 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Nother ATTABOY, Well deserved. and please interrupt the political discussions at every opportunity. ;) Yes, indeed! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government.. I am simply making observations based on three things. First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does repeat it's self. Second: I see and hear a rising tide of unhappy citizens expressing displeasure with government oppression. Third: The founding fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights were well experienced in government oppression and wisely established that there would be opportunity to peacefully revolt through the ballot box at every election cycle. Further, that should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to speak freely against and have legal redress against government. Further should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to arms to take action to defend against oppressive government.. and defense of self and property. I apparently incorrectly presumed the above was self evident to all Citizens. My sincere apology. Not too many Citizens in 2008, but lots of citizens. This is not evident to citizens; they are looking for the next handout. However it is encouraging that in the past 5.5 yrs, many more citizens are learning about Citizenship, and becoming Citizens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] dejections
number 1 was something from the public schools number 2 wanted to interest me in a home security system number 3 wanted to interest me in a new roof number 4 wanted a motorcycle part bah :( As ye sow, so shall ye reap. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1971 VW Convertible
At 8:51 PM -0400 4/7/14, Dan Penoff wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/23q8bj1k7yx07xh/Scan-140407-0012.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4celq8crp5hf9q/Scan-140407-0010.jpg You can definitely see the Kubelwagen heritage in these shots... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: For the record: I am NOT advocating violence or overthrow of government.. I am simply making observations based on three things. First: History is replete with citizens revolts when government becomes oppressive. It has been a long standing observation that history does repeat it's self. Second: I see and hear a rising tide of unhappy citizens expressing displeasure with government oppression. Third: The founding fathers who wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights were well experienced in government oppression and wisely established that there would be opportunity to peacefully revolt through the ballot box at every election cycle. Further, that should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to speak freely against and have legal redress against government. Further should that fail, every citizen shall be guaranteed the right to arms to take action to defend against oppressive government.. and defense of self and property. I apparently incorrectly presumed the above was self evident to all Citizens. My sincere apology. Not too many Citizens in 2008, but lots of citizens. This is not evident to citizens; they are looking for the next handout. However it is encouraging that in the past 5.5 yrs, many more citizens are learning about Citizenship, and becoming Citizens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... Andrew, Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] List needs a shove?
Now Curt is in my spam filter --- Sorry, no digests here. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So first Fred starts having problems, then I miss out on 2 digests. They're not in my spam folder... Anybody got digests 47 and 48 they could forward me. Apparently a lot happened in them since 49 doesn't make any sense to me. -Curt -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014 22:14:50 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... Andrew, Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first two? Like I said before, I think he's blacklisted you and doesn't see your emails. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Dropbox scam?
Hi Dan, This warning came up when I tried to access two of your links on the message about the carriage shop. Could there be anything to it? Gerry Thunderbird thinks this message is a scam. Are you sure you want to visit dropbox.com? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I did. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 07 April 2014, 11:14PM -0400 from Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com: Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... Andrew, Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
