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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

2014-09-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Terminology

An assault rifle is a light rifle that fires a reduced power cartridge and is 
capable of automatic operation.  Automatic operation means it's a machine gun 
that fires as long as the trigger is pressed.

The term "assault weapon" has no precise meaning but the media seems to like it.

The M-16 is a US military assault rifle that fires a 5.56 mm cartridge which is 
a military version of the 2.23 caliber varmint cartridge.  The M-16 has a 20 
inch  barrel.  There were several revisions (denoted A1, A2, A3, and A4) with 
different sights, stocks, a "forward assist", burst limiter, and several 
smaller changes.  The Air Force adopted the M-16  in the mid 1960s for use by 
Air Police.  The Army adopted the M-16 during Viet Nam, for cost reasons and 
because infantry men could carry many more of the smaller 5.56 cartridges 
compared to.30 caliper (30.06 and NATO 7.62) cartridges.  The many reported 
M-16 problems in Viet Nam were largely caused by misinformation, lack of 
cleaning kits, and unverified changes to the ammo.  Still, the M-16 fundamental 
design uses precision parts and it is significantly more vulnerable to dirt and 
operator abuse than the COMBLOCK AK-47/74 variants.

The M-4 is a carbine version of the M-16 but with a 16 inch barrel and 
significant changes to the gas and feed systems to provide reliable operation.  
Still, for various technical reasons, bolt carrier operation in the M-4 is more 
violent than the M-16 and feed problems seem more common.

The AR-15 was a semi-auto civilian version of the M-16 which was produced by 
Armalite.  However, these days the terms AR and AR-15 are commonly sued to 
indicate any semi-auto AR-15 style firearm from any manufacturer, including 
rifles, carbines, and even pistols.  The semi-auto  version is almost identical 
to the auto/select-fire version except it lacks the auto disconnector mechanism 
and machined holes for the associated shaft.  Almost all civilian AR rifles 
sold today are based on the M-4, mot the M-16.  It is more precise to describe 
a semi-auto gun as auto-loading



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Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought

2014-09-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Still a great essay from the Colonel.  

The debacle that was Viet Nam is less an indictment of war than an indictment 
of the way that particular non-war was defined and prosecuted.  Even a casual 
review of world history will tell you that sustained peace is not normal unless 
a superpower oversees things.

Consider this.   A vanishing minority of Americans has any first-hand 
experience with actual war.  No living Americans except some immigrants have 
any experience living through war their own back yard.  Thanks to two big 
oceans, relatively peaceful neighbors north and south, and a half-century 
American age of relative world peace, the vast majority of fat, lazy, 
cell-phone addicted Americans are clueless when it comes to the depths of evil 
in the world.  But if we continue on the current course, I think they may learn.

Scott


> -Original Message-
> From: WILTON via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:02 PM
> 
> THE TRAGEDY AND THE WALL
> By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> 
>  The tragedy of the Vietnam War is exceeded by only slavery and the Civil
> War as this nation’s greatest tragedy. Not only were thousands of fine, young
> Americans sacrificed needlessly, sent into harm’s way by a government with
> no commitment to a resolution to the conflict, the conflict divided the
> country like nothing else but the Civil War.
> ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought

2014-09-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


That's the opinion of some well informed retirees here.  They believe that if 
there were no oil or minerals, Western nations would have little interest in 
the M.E. or Africa, so long as no other major power (Russia,China) moved in.
Gerrywho ends his 2 cents on the subject

G Mann wrote:
> Before this thread spirals into the great dustbin at some No Such Agency
> data storage facility.. one last bit...
> 
> Mid East has never been stable in recorded history, far beyond the 1,435
> years ago when islam was invented by a caravan robber named muhammed, and
> since, there has been no peace and no progress of organized unified
> civilization.
> 
> We in the Great Western Culture want quick, simple, easy answers. There are
> none.
> 
> All solutions for that region will involve more than one lifetime to
> achieve, and we as a collective set of nations just don't have the patience
> to achieve that. Thus, it will evolve into a violent set of actions [my
> prediction, yours may vary].
> 
> ISIS / ISIL ¿ whatever they wish to call themselves, has a plan which will
> not stay in their region.. it clearly requires the conquest of the Western
> Civilization and it's conversion to islam.. which I believe is not an
> acceptable choice for the majority in the West.. They will not "stay on
> their turf" and be happy.. as much as we wish they would.. we can not
> "appease them" by leaving them alone.. ISIS, under other names is already
> well populated within the borders of USA and UK, France, Denmark, Sweden,
> Germany, Canada, and Australia. Their marching orders are laid on already..
> ours are still fumbling in confusion [comforted yet?]... I'm not.
> 
> The following countries were taken by conquest of the sword for the
> furtherance of islam, Spain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, India [over
> 80,000,000 Hindu killed], Lebanon, the list is much longer, but it
> illustrates my point. If you read history of each of these countries you
> will see a pattern of attack was followed by the followers of muhammed,
> which is being once again replicated.  Scared yet? Concerned?
> 
> I am, it may impact my ability to own and enjoy an antique Mercedes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > The issue is not so much why they are there but the big question is how to
> > go about making some real progress towards stability in the region but we
> > better not discuss that.
> > Anyway when you say you lost the back box, do you mean the actual arrows
> > or will foxy just not remember where it was a few minutes ago? Can you go
> > back by right clicking a page and selecting back?
> > Haven't used foxy in a while as it became too bloated, chrome has spat a
> > dummy after an upgrade so i am using chromium at the moment.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who gets frustrated with all this high tech stuff sometimes
> >
> > On 18/09/14 11:36, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Wow!  It doesn't take long for this group to implode!  Since some people
> >> say the reason we are in the Middle East is OIL!, let's stir some of that
> >> in and really get everyones cajones in an uproar. (Just kidding!)
> >>
> >> In the meantime, I've lost something and would really be grateful if one
> >> of the computer experts on the list would help me find it.  It's the "back"
> >> box in Firefox.  It's driving me almost as crazy as when one of my old VW
> >> Beetles lost its backup gear. I can still hear the UF students laughing
> >> while I pushed it out of a parking space at the Thirsty Gator. I've looked
> >> everywhere, tried everything, and can't imagine where it got off to. Really
> >> getting tired of having to reload a website every time I want to go back
> >> one page.
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Gerry
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] What abut this?

2014-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Still have not closed. Should be a couple days away

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:22 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> Do you have that 20 acres to park it on yet??? If not, where would you put 
> it?  :-)
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 1969 Mercedes Benz 280 S
>> http://salina.craigslist.org/cto/4671704278.html
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who 
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for 
> themselves."
> 
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> 
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A cars air con

2014-09-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

On my '87 wagon, the engine rpm signal wasn't getting passed to the KLIMA
relay via the main engine computer, so I ended up installing a "bypass"
relay in place of the KLIMA relay.  I lost transmission kick-down function
and the compressor cut-off belt saving feature, but gained AC.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Double flaring tool recommendations?

2014-09-17 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I would like to suggest you consider buying pre-made length of hard line
which already has double flare with the compression nuts. It is available
in a good selection of length at NAPA I'm sure of, other FLAPS should have
it as well in metric. Remove the line and use a flexible tape measure [see
wifes sewing box for example] to get the total length needed, then select
the closest available [slightly longer if shorter is next option] Then use
the old line as a pattern to make the bends on the new one. If the new line
is a bit longer, fudge on the bends a little so the accumulated bends take
up the extra length.

This way, you have a line with no patches to fail and you only have to make
two connections and the retention clips for a good fix.. if the old line
has started to fail from rust.. it will fail more later.. logic..

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 7:50 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have a couple of hard brake lines that rotted/chafed (unsure of which;
> there are two in close proximity) right near where they make a hard 90.
>
> They are the ones that go along the driver side of chassis from front to
> back on a 99 w210.
>
> I'm sure the dealer is very proud of them, so my plan is to cut out the
> bad sections, then fabricate new bends and splice them in.
>
> I have no intention of using compression fittings or single flares; both
> are known to work loose.
>
> Thanks in advance
>  -j.
>
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Re: [MBZ] What abut this?

2014-09-17 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Do you have that 20 acres to park it on yet??? If not, where would you put
it?  :-)

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> 1969 Mercedes Benz 280 S
> http://salina.craigslist.org/cto/4671704278.html
>
>

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NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] What abut this?

2014-09-17 Thread Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes

Yes it is a bit suss that no pictures where taken of the interior,
unless the thing was locked and this is some sort of sales agent getting
rid of farmer Browns old Church wagon.
However I can't see the point if the seller is trying to hide the
interior, as it will be looked at eventually.
Although the interior won't tell you much, as they are so hard wearing a
interior out of a 34k mile car can look just like one from a 134k one,
the only tell tale would be pedal wear and steering wheel wear if
applicable. Plus interiors are relatively easy to repair/replace, it's
rust that would determine if this is worth mucking around with. Once you
start with metalwork and paint, it gets pricey.
Then again if it needs paint, Klebby could paint it lime green and get a
green interior from somewhere and drop in a OM or V8. Plus some 20"
spinners to get Wilton excited. Then there is bag it option to drop it low.

Hendrik
who would like a lime green 108
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=6mC7H9hyOv2y8M&tbnid=a9OcL-thSZtUBM:&ved=0CAgQjRw4Sg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fredseahome.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F03%2Fsaudi-car-show.html&ei=wk4aVO_tGYH48QWLs4LoAQ&psig=AFQjCNGxc5Pz_xzzA6TQs5kgQGhxKCD2cw&ust=1411096642609349

On 18/09/14 12:32, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
wondering about the condition of the interior... Also, 280S is NOT fun
to drive - better to wait for an SE

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