[MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
Grant, No worries, cheap gas has killed the electrics and hybrids. Nobody is buying them anymore, SUV is back baby! http://time.com/money/3827218/electric-car-sales-cheap-gas/ - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
Crack. $4,400 would be a nice price, $44,000 is delusional, unless this was H.R. Clinton's car and it comes with her email server in the trunk, and you have Trey Gowdy's phone number handy. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/this-1991-mercedes-350sd-asks-44-000-is-originally-fr-1700374182 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
Yeah, but for how long? All it takes is the Iran deal falling apart for oil pries to rebound. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, No worries, cheap gas has killed the electrics and hybrids. Nobody is buying them anymore, SUV is back baby! http://time.com/money/3827218/electric-car-sales-cheap-gas/ - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM, Ford, And Others Want to Make Working on Your Own Car Illegal
clay wrote: ...Heaven forbid the kids learn how to do anything. What 'chew talkin' about? Kids learn that they have professionals do all things - ALL things. Just pay someone else. Ain't that learnin'? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More mower again
Just to gripe some more. Bought a new battery, the larger 275 amp battery and had to crank the hell out of it and it finally started. Probably needs carbs cleaned or rebuilt after 10 years. Also when cranking even with a new battery someone's while cranking the starter sort of bogs down and won't turn the engine, j have to hit the key several times and it will start cranking over again. It had done this almost since new. I thought it might Have been related to valve clearance and compression too high but I have adjusted the valves in The past and it still does it. Kubota Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More mower again
Well a lot of times it will do it immediately when trying to start it with no previous cranking. Hit the key a few times and it will go. It's like the engine rotates to a certain point and can't overcome. And if you kit the key a few times it will finally overcome that spot and crank further, almost like it has to get a running start if that makes any sense. Sent from my iPhone Dead spot on the armature? Kubota Diesel or yanmar, satoh, buffalo, IH, etc so long as its a diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More mower again
Well a lot of times it will do it immediately when trying to start it with no previous cranking. Hit the key a few times and it will go. It's like the engine rotates to a certain point and can't overcome. And if you kit the key a few times it will finally overcome that spot and crank further, almost like it has to get a running start if that makes any sense. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 6:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The starter was over heating from all the cranking - they are not built to do that. You should limit the cranking to perhaps 30 seconds with 10 - 30 minutes between tries. Of course, you will never get it started this way - - - - On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just to gripe some more. Bought a new battery, the larger 275 amp battery and had to crank the hell out of it and it finally started. Probably needs carbs cleaned or rebuilt after 10 years. Also when cranking even with a new battery someone's while cranking the starter sort of bogs down and won't turn the engine, j have to hit the key several times and it will start cranking over again. It had done this almost since new. I thought it might Have been related to valve clearance and compression too high but I have adjusted the valves in The past and it still does it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.” – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More mower again
Just to gripe some more. Bought a new battery, the larger 275 amp battery and had to crank the hell out of it and it finally started. Probably needs carbs cleaned or rebuilt after 10 years. Also when cranking even with a new battery someone's while cranking the starter sort of bogs down and won't turn the engine, j have to hit the key several times and it will start cranking over again. It had done this almost since new. I thought it might Have been related to valve clearance and compression too high but I have adjusted the valves in The past and it still does it. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
--R wrote: I think it is really time for these pointless distractions and old political allegations to be put aside while I work on opportunities for middle-class Americans like myself How about another suggestion? Hang it up. Be done with opportunities for yerself. You done well from sounds of it. Give the next opportunity to a young 'un that can sow that opportunity to another young 'un a few years from now. Maybe we can foster community instead of... whatever. How many pension does one american need? Can't we all just get along? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Synthetic Diesel!
It seems that it would be easier to build portable synthetic diesel plants and move them to the old land fills around the country and create synthetic diesel from all the methane that's available. Or tap into some natural gas where it's not economical to transport. Or just build a plant in DC and capture the political gas to create the diesel and the hot air as a power source. This water source method seems like a new way to sell wind mills and other items or as a new income source for Holland since flowers probably aren't selling as good due to the wonderful state of the world economy. Probably good for Europe as they are all packed together like sardines, but maybe not so much in Texas or Montana. Just some thoughts... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'll trade for a leaf pious or honda insight
I wouldn't mind one of the first generation Insights, they were pretty cool. The newer ones look like a Pious clone... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] i'll trade for a leaf pious or honda insight Folks i'll be happy to trade 2 or 3 rusty project 300 TD cars for a pious insight or leaf i'd love to have one to play with thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More mower again
The starter was over heating from all the cranking - they are not built to do that. You should limit the cranking to perhaps 30 seconds with 10 - 30 minutes between tries. Of course, you will never get it started this way - - - - On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just to gripe some more. Bought a new battery, the larger 275 amp battery and had to crank the hell out of it and it finally started. Probably needs carbs cleaned or rebuilt after 10 years. Also when cranking even with a new battery someone's while cranking the starter sort of bogs down and won't turn the engine, j have to hit the key several times and it will start cranking over again. It had done this almost since new. I thought it might Have been related to valve clearance and compression too high but I have adjusted the valves in The past and it still does it. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? Not close, but your TD needs a road trip! 13 miles a day don't cut it for a classy highway car. Give one of em some exercise! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM, Ford, And Others Want to Make Working on Your Own Car Illegal
ATTABOY! What color? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:44 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My newest acquisition is a 76 300D. Daily driver is 02 S430, toy is the 74 SL. I can work on the SL and the diesel. I would not even hazard a guess as to what to screw with on the W220. Too many computers and just plain garbage fit and finish. I am assuming the majority of the population has no idea how a car works, and does not want to know. Looking at the public high school curriculum there is no longer any shop or horticulture classes offered. Heaven forbid the kids learn how to do anything. Even home economy is no longer offered. No need to clean or cook to stay alive. clay On Apr 24, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: I drive a '90 which is now legally an antique. On Apr 24, 2015 5:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I can't believe that there are people who actually drive cars newer than 1985! What's that about? Andrew 1983 300TD starting to tarnish along the edges 1985 300TD looks new On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The pacification of the population began years ago. Most people no longer know how to do anything for themselves, and have no desire to. A paternalistic society that follows orders is what we have now. The progressives are all bark with no bite or capability to disrupt our overlords. Soon the sheeple will be marching into rail cars and be transported to cleansing camps. On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:39 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Our great country was designed by geniuses. It is now run by idiots. Any questions before the revolt starts? On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/gm-ford-others-want-working-own-car-illegal-16229.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
On 28/04/2015 10:37 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? Not close, but your TD needs a road trip! 13 miles a day don't cut it for a classy highway car. Give one of em some exercise! ___ And, think of all the forum members you could visit along the way. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. The weak link in civilization of modern living is the power grid. Parts of the grid are now over 100 years old and in very poor condition, in some places critical condition. While power companies increase rates, nothing is planned to repair or rebuild the failing transmission grid for power. For example, the supply of major transformers is critical. If one fails, the lead time to build a replacement is measured in months or in some cases, years. They have to come from a foreign country, because American companies that build them are either closed or restricted by EPA rules, Coal fired generating plants are now severely restricted, as is the mining of coal, for generation of additional electrical energy.. over a tired and aged grid.. Would it really be good to add more load to the already loaded electrical grid with thousands of electrical cars being charged? Is there another transportation device which would serve the city dwelling public better, at lower total cost? For the millions of dollars spent [perhaps billions] in development of electric car models, the purchase and maintenance, and ultimately, disposal, has it been a good investment? Do all ecco vehicles have to be so ugly? [except for Tesla, perhaps, which is to small and to low to be driven by anyone that isn't a circus midget or a clown car driver.] Range with an electric vehicle is the holy grail. Is there any hope in the reasonable future for economic development of an energy storage device with enough capacity to equal a petrol car? One that normal working people could afford? On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bike or motor scooter in the rain or snow? The fact is that most people (I almost wrote most Americans but I'd think we have longer commutes than most) don't travel more than 20 miles each day. In LA its way less since 20 miles can be a 2 hour commute. For those folks an electric car fits the bill nicely and in fact an internal combustion engine for them is living in severe duty because the engine never warms up. Is it perfect in every occasion? No of course not but remember for each one of THEM driving one of THOSE there is more oil left over for YOU to drive one of YOURS. It would be short sighted of us not to push for electric cars... -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious I mean come on now let's face it, the leaf is a worthless POS with no range! Pointless as far as I can see. If I need to get around urban traffic at stop and go pace without AC I might as well ride a bike or motor scooter. Leave it to Japan to create another cutesy turd. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's bad design, and I accept that it burns you. Cities have freeways. Western cities cover several hundred square miles of land and have long freeways that require high speed travel. While you may live and work in a totally urban environment with all needs within near walking distance.. a large segment of this country does not. This Leaf should have never been sold for use in this city, so you are correct, it doesn't work for me and it didn't work for the leasor either.. not here, where summertime temps routinely reach over 110 and AC is required for survival. The design power supply will run AC nicely.. but only give you about 40 miles of range, if you keep speeds below 40 MPH. Sorry for your burn.. but, here, it doesn't work. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It burns me when people say something is bad when using it outside of the design specification. The Leaf is a city car, not a highway car. I'm sure you know that the force required to move something increases geometrically with an exponential increase in speed. The place where an electric car excels is when you sit in traffic. If the AC/heat/lights aren't on the electric car uses basically no energy at all or just the little. So its not that its a bad car, its a bad car for YOU. Where your diesel pickup is a bad vehicle for people who live in the city, it uses too much fuel, is too hard to navigate down little streets and is way too hard to park. Neither is a bad vehicle just bad when outside of their design parameters. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious No heater, no AC, no lights. Just drove it at prevailing freeway traffic speed and watched the fuel gage drop like a
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
You need to trim your posts. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. The weak link in civilization of modern living is the power grid. Parts of the grid are now over 100 years old and in very poor condition, in some places critical condition. While power companies increase rates, nothing is planned to repair or rebuild the failing transmission grid for power. For example, the supply of major transformers is critical. If one fails, the lead time to build a replacement is measured in months or in some cases, years. They have to come from a foreign country, because American companies that build them are either closed or restricted by EPA rules, Coal fired generating plants are now severely restricted, as is the mining of coal, for generation of additional electrical energy.. over a tired and aged grid.. Would it really be good to add more load to the already loaded electrical grid with thousands of electrical cars being charged? Is there another transportation device which would serve the city dwelling public better, at lower total cost? For the millions of dollars spent [perhaps billions] in development of electric car models, the purchase and maintenance, and ultimately, disposal, has it been a good investment? Do all ecco vehicles have to be so ugly? [except for Tesla, perhaps, which is to small and to low to be driven by anyone that isn't a circus midget or a clown car driver.] Range with an electric vehicle is the holy grail. Is there any hope in the reasonable future for economic development of an energy storage device with enough capacity to equal a petrol car? One that normal working people could afford? On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bike or motor scooter in the rain or snow? The fact is that most people (I almost wrote most Americans but I'd think we have longer commutes than most) don't travel more than 20 miles each day. In LA its way less since 20 miles can be a 2 hour commute. For those folks an electric car fits the bill nicely and in fact an internal combustion engine for them is living in severe duty because the engine never warms up. Is it perfect in every occasion? No of course not but remember for each one of THEM driving one of THOSE there is more oil left over for YOU to drive one of YOURS. It would be short sighted of us not to push for electric cars... -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious I mean come on now let's face it, the leaf is a worthless POS with no range! Pointless as far as I can see. If I need to get around urban traffic at stop and go pace without AC I might as well ride a bike or motor scooter. Leave it to Japan to create another cutesy turd. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's bad design, and I accept that it burns you. Cities have freeways. Western cities cover several hundred square miles of land and have long freeways that require high speed travel. While you may live and work in a totally urban environment with all needs within near walking distance.. a large segment of this country does not. This Leaf should have never been sold for use in this city, so you are correct, it doesn't work for me and it didn't work for the leasor either.. not here, where summertime temps routinely reach over 110 and AC is required for survival. The design power supply will run AC nicely.. but only give you about 40 miles of range, if you keep speeds below 40 MPH. Sorry for your burn.. but, here, it doesn't work. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It burns me when people say something is bad when using it outside of the design specification. The Leaf is a city car, not a highway car. I'm sure you know that the force required to move something increases geometrically with an exponential increase in speed. The place where an electric car excels is when you sit in traffic. If the AC/heat/lights aren't on the electric car uses basically no energy at all or just the little. So its not that its a bad car, its a bad car for YOU. Where your diesel pickup is a bad vehicle for people who live in the city, it uses too much fuel, is too hard to navigate down little streets and is way too hard to park. Neither is a bad vehicle just bad when outside of their design parameters. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
Drove to OH and back recently, about 900 miles. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 28/04/2015 10:37 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? Not close, but your TD needs a road trip! 13 miles a day don't cut it for a classy highway car. Give one of em some exercise! ___ And, think of all the forum members you could visit along the way. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB On 28/04/2015 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:29 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have been working the past two weeks and not been able to play with stuff at home. Today I got to see what the garden was up to. It has been going nuts. I began work on the chicken run, so the gals can play outside without Papa chicken around. Should have that nailed down by the end of the week. Looked around the garden and yanked some weeds and saw all the dang volunteers and plants that need new homes. Freecycle got lost of postings for adoption of Marionberries, Dogwood tree starts, Crocomisia, Sedums, and some other thing I am now forgetting. The pumpkin starts, watermelon starts and broccoli and greens all got placed. I am keeping an eye on the carrots, lettuce and beans (from seed) while the tomato and peppers are getting a chance to build strength before getting placed in the beds. The chicks will get to eat whatever sprouts from the weavil infested bird seed I spread in a bare patch of ground that will be enclosed in a month. The girls do need to have lots of space to wander and explore. The O'Henry Peach tree was starting to have some leaf curl troubles, and as luck would have it, I still have a whole bottle of the now banned Sulfur spray solution, so that got applied. I had to keep the chicks away from that section of the garden while I had them out on the lawn this afternoon. Wonderful day with 76*f temps. clay Who will address the dang leaking power steering pump on Tuesday ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB Nothin to it! Andrew takes a week off from whatever a BLM guy does. 3 days out, a day there, 3 days back with plants! And the TD gets cleaned out nicely! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
--R wrote: I think it is really time for these pointless distractions and old political allegations to be put aside while I work on opportunities for middle-class Americans like myself How about another suggestion? Hang it up. Be done with opportunities for yerself. You done well from sounds of it. Give the next opportunity to a young 'un that can sow that opportunity to another young 'un a few years from now. Maybe we can foster community instead of... whatever. How many pension does one american need? Can't we all just get along? mao Now thar's an Idee! How about another suggestion? Hang it up. So long as the definition of it is the old hag pillary, And while we're at it: Clint Eastwood: hang em high Do both pillary and billy bob at the same time. Treason, multiple counts many counts of murder, take yer pick. fraud conspiracy Probably a way to do an Al Capone to them by the irs too. The new 'merkun crime family. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I departed Orlando on a Saturday afternoon, spent a goodly portion of the next day in Ashville, NC, then headed west on long day drives. I was held up in SLC for most of a day, but still made it home in time for lunch Thursday. The drive east on I-90 took six days because I had to stop at a place of interest at least once each day for the navigator (10yr old #1 boy) to get some learning. Mt. Rushmore, Petrified forest, Custer battle field, corn palace and Wall Drug, St. Louis Arch, Devils Mount, Picketts fort, Gettysburg. clay On Apr 28, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: 3 days from DC to Seatle? I would need a team of reserve drivers. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB Nothin to it! Andrew takes a week off from whatever a BLM guy does. 3 days out, a day there, 3 days back with plants! And the TD gets cleaned out nicely! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
Well if Andrew wants to 'nap a kid, he can take two weeks of his gen'rus gummit vacation to do the trip in 6 days out and 6 days back, and a couple days there to sightsee. Boeing plants are cool, as are the related musei. Then there is the Granville Island market in vancouver. Better than that piddly thing in seattle that's overrun by kollyfornyuns. Still would be good exercise for a TD. I departed Orlando on a Saturday afternoon, spent a goodly portion of the next day in Ashville, NC, then headed west on long day drives. I was held up in SLC for most of a day, but still made it home in time for lunch Thursday. The drive east on I-90 took six days because I had to stop at a place of interest at least once each day for the navigator (10yr old #1 boy) to get some learning. Mt. Rushmore, Petrified forest, Custer battle field, corn palace and Wall Drug, St. Louis Arch, Devils Mount, Picketts fort, Gettysburg. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
SWMBA was doing windmill permitting for a number of years. The biggest issue for siting was being able to find a reliable connection to the grid. Nobody is building new access points or hanging fresh wire, so most of this stuff goes where the wire is, not where it is best to get your wind on. Old Warren Buffet purchased a the local big energy firm that sold itself to Scottish power. He did diddly squat for making it a better service provider. He and Berkshire just raped it and then sold it on for massive profit. I think Warren and Berkshire are pirates plundering America. clay On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. The weak link in civilization of modern living is the power grid. Parts of the grid are now over 100 years old and in very poor condition, in some places critical condition. While power companies increase rates, nothing is planned to repair or rebuild the failing transmission grid for power. For example, the supply of major transformers is critical. If one fails, the lead time to build a replacement is measured in months or in some cases, years. They have to come from a foreign country, because American companies that build them are either closed or restricted by EPA rules, Coal fired generating plants are now severely restricted, as is the mining of coal, for generation of additional electrical energy.. over a tired and aged grid.. Would it really be good to add more load to the already loaded electrical grid with thousands of electrical cars being charged? Is there another transportation device which would serve the city dwelling public better, at lower total cost? For the millions of dollars spent [perhaps billions] in development of electric car models, the purchase and maintenance, and ultimately, disposal, has it been a good investment? Do all ecco vehicles have to be so ugly? [except for Tesla, perhaps, which is to small and to low to be driven by anyone that isn't a circus midget or a clown car driver.] Range with an electric vehicle is the holy grail. Is there any hope in the reasonable future for economic development of an energy storage device with enough capacity to equal a petrol car? One that normal working people could afford? On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bike or motor scooter in the rain or snow? The fact is that most people (I almost wrote most Americans but I'd think we have longer commutes than most) don't travel more than 20 miles each day. In LA its way less since 20 miles can be a 2 hour commute. For those folks an electric car fits the bill nicely and in fact an internal combustion engine for them is living in severe duty because the engine never warms up. Is it perfect in every occasion? No of course not but remember for each one of THEM driving one of THOSE there is more oil left over for YOU to drive one of YOURS. It would be short sighted of us not to push for electric cars... -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious I mean come on now let's face it, the leaf is a worthless POS with no range! Pointless as far as I can see. If I need to get around urban traffic at stop and go pace without AC I might as well ride a bike or motor scooter. Leave it to Japan to create another cutesy turd. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's bad design, and I accept that it burns you. Cities have freeways. Western cities cover several hundred square miles of land and have long freeways that require high speed travel. While you may live and work in a totally urban environment with all needs within near walking distance.. a large segment of this country does not. This Leaf should have never been sold for use in this city, so you are correct, it doesn't work for me and it didn't work for the leasor either.. not here, where summertime temps routinely reach over 110 and AC is required for survival. The design power supply will run AC nicely.. but only give you about 40 miles of range, if you keep speeds below 40 MPH. Sorry for your burn.. but, here, it doesn't work. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It burns me when people say something is bad when using it outside of the design specification. The Leaf is a city car, not a highway car. I'm sure you know that the force required to move something increases geometrically with an exponential increase in speed. The place where an electric car excels is when you sit in traffic. If the AC/heat/lights aren't on the electric car uses basically no energy at all or just the little. So
Re: [MBZ] Park your 2005 Toyota Camry
Curly will love this one! Toyota's killer firmware: Bad design and its consequences | EDN http://www.edn.com/design/automotive/4423428/Toyota-s-killer-firmware--Bad-design-and-its-consequences -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 How is it that toada has not been sued out of existence for its negligence? there are many companies that have been lawyered out of existence for making good products that nobody knew at the time were dangerous. Johns Manville and many roofing companies come to mind. Could it be that toada has immunity because it is a darling of the liberal crowd? Darling of consumer's Reports? Or is that redundant? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stupid toada driver of the day
Driving across town this morning: Toada toad pulls out of a driveway on the right side, (in front of me) goes to the inside lane, straightens out and stops in the left lane. Dead stop on a green light, Sat there for a minute or two, then tried to do a u turn. I was gone then, out of range. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I am willing to deliver any list member a car they acquire out west. Triple A will cover my tow needs. I was not able to deliver Dave from Idaho his W124, but did do lots of the legwork on it and met him at the airport, delivered him to the car and he drove it home his own self. clay On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 28/04/2015 10:37 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? Not close, but your TD needs a road trip! 13 miles a day don't cut it for a classy highway car. Give one of em some exercise! ___ And, think of all the forum members you could visit along the way. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
G Mann sez: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. The weak link in civilization of modern living is the power grid. Parts of the grid are now over 100 years old and in very poor condition, in some places critical condition. While power companies increase rates, nothing is planned to repair or rebuild the failing transmission grid for power. For example, the supply of major transformers is critical. If one fails, the lead time to build a replacement is measured in months or in some cases, years. They have to come from a foreign country, because American companies that build them are either closed or restricted by EPA rules, Coal fired generating plants are now severely restricted, as is the mining of coal, for generation of additional electrical energy.. over a tired and aged grid.. Would it really be good to add more load to the already loaded electrical grid with thousands of electrical cars being charged? Is there another transportation device which would serve the city dwelling public better, at lower total cost? A mule comes to mind. especially in suburbia where the off duty mule might double as a lawnmower as well as fertilizing the lawn. Think of the economic boom that adopting mules would create! Sales of fence posts, wire, staples, tack, oats, hitching racks, shovels and forks would skyrocket! It could also entertain the kids when tv is off because of blackout from the electric grid failing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
3 days from DC to Seatle? I would need a team of reserve drivers. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB Nothin to it! Andrew takes a week off from whatever a BLM guy does. 3 days out, a day there, 3 days back with plants! And the TD gets cleaned out nicely! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
3 days from DC to Seatle? I would need a team of reserve drivers. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB Nothin to it! Andrew takes a week off from whatever a BLM guy does. 3 days out, a day there, 3 days back with plants! And the TD gets cleaned out nicely! 2 days of 1000 miles per day and one day of only 700. Maybe a squash player isn't in great shape after all? A Handball player could do it. And you could earn a double iron butt award if you did the driving yourself! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I can drive all day. it's staying awake that's the problem. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3 days from DC to Seatle? I would need a team of reserve drivers. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe he is in Seattle, Andrew. RB Nothin to it! Andrew takes a week off from whatever a BLM guy does. 3 days out, a day there, 3 days back with plants! And the TD gets cleaned out nicely! 2 days of 1000 miles per day and one day of only 700. Maybe a squash player isn't in great shape after all? A Handball player could do it. And you could earn a double iron butt award if you did the driving yourself! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
I think it is really time for these pointless distractions and old political allegations to be put aside while I work on opportunities for middle-class Americans like myself --R On 4/28/15 4:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: That would make a great headline page for the National Inquirer... hahahahahaha Hillarys' email server found in Mercedes trunk sold on Ebay .. ;) I'm sure she will splain it away at the next congressional hearing... yup. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Crack. $4,400 would be a nice price, $44,000 is delusional, unless this was H.R. Clinton's car and it comes with her email server in the trunk, and you have Trey Gowdy's phone number handy. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/this-1991-mercedes-350sd-asks-44-000-is-originally-fr-1700374182 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today’s Nice Price or Crack Pipe Mercedes
That would make a great headline page for the National Inquirer... hahahahahaha Hillarys' email server found in Mercedes trunk sold on Ebay .. ;) I'm sure she will splain it away at the next congressional hearing... yup. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Crack. $4,400 would be a nice price, $44,000 is delusional, unless this was H.R. Clinton's car and it comes with her email server in the trunk, and you have Trey Gowdy's phone number handy. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/this-1991-mercedes-350sd-asks-44-000-is-originally-fr-1700374182 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
Two aspects to your line of question. First, we must pass regulations that would force electric cars to only be charged at night for load leveling. We would therefore be able to have larger baseload plants that could run more efficiently than peaking unit. Problem is that wind machines and solar generators would be somewhat problematic, so nukes or fossil would be the way to go. Some proposals have already been floated and prototyped to use pumped storage of water for a similar solution. During the day the cars, if plugged in, could also amount to spinning reserve that could be drawn from to level peak loads on the grid. After all, they are just big batteries like you would put in your solarwind house. Screw you if you need to get home and your car has been sucked dry for the common good, you should be riding mass transit anyway. The second aspect is a lot cheaper and already underway by our esteemed president. Allowing the Iraniums and NORKs to build their nukes and the NORKs to build ICBMs is providing a near-term solution to the failing electric grid by detonating an EMP or two in the proper locations, hence providing a massive economic renewal opportunity that would put many to work in the subsistence arts and firearms industries. And of course we would need a massive gummint bureaucracy with really smart people who know better than most peons to make sure it was all being done in the fairest possible way to meet all needs. Full employment, full happiness for all! --R On 4/28/15 11:50 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I raise this line of question in the chain of transportation logic. The weak link in civilization of modern living is the power grid. Parts of the grid are now over 100 years old and in very poor condition, in some places critical condition. While power companies increase rates, nothing is planned to repair or rebuild the failing transmission grid for power. For example, the supply of major transformers is critical. If one fails, the lead time to build a replacement is measured in months or in some cases, years. They have to come from a foreign country, because American companies that build them are either closed or restricted by EPA rules, Coal fired generating plants are now severely restricted, as is the mining of coal, for generation of additional electrical energy.. over a tired and aged grid.. Would it really be good to add more load to the already loaded electrical grid with thousands of electrical cars being charged? Is there another transportation device which would serve the city dwelling public better, at lower total cost? For the millions of dollars spent [perhaps billions] in development of electric car models, the purchase and maintenance, and ultimately, disposal, has it been a good investment? Do all ecco vehicles have to be so ugly? [except for Tesla, perhaps, which is to small and to low to be driven by anyone that isn't a circus midget or a clown car driver.] Range with an electric vehicle is the holy grail. Is there any hope in the reasonable future for economic development of an energy storage device with enough capacity to equal a petrol car? One that normal working people could afford? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
Andrew sez: I can drive all day. it's staying awake that's the problem. Modafinil. For shift work disorder, narcolepsy, and road trips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
Andrew sez: I can drive all day. it's staying awake that's the problem. Modafinil. For shift work disorder, narcolepsy, and road trips. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil Hey thanks - I might need that although I wonder about the side effects... None. Zero. Zip. Nada. You stay awake, and alert. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] York compressor opinions
I yanked the York out of the 300D, as it does not make cold air, a LeMons car does not need cold air of the weight, and I had nothing better to do that day. Should I bother trying to make a nickel selling the thing or just send it to the scrap yard? Whatever cash I get out of the part will go back into making the car worthy of racing in the LeMons event clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] York compressor opinions
I yanked the York out of the 300D, as it does not make cold air, a LeMons car does not need cold air of the weight, and I had nothing better to do that day. Dude! You just removed the on-board air compressor! If your tires don't need air once or twice a day, they're too good. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious
ALL fuel efficiency claims are false advertising, its part of the game... -Curt From: Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious The fact that they claim an unattainable range of 100 miles is false advertising. We do not drive the car in a lab under perfect conditions. In the real, practical world, the leaf has no practical application, hence it's a turd. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And we live in a big 'ole country with lots of different places. Here we've got lots of water while you've got little. Here were there is history stuff is close together. I would submit this is a case of caveat emptor, the car has a possible range of 100 miles which will be severely impacted by running accessories, the leasor should have recognized the fact. Where you mention that he was late to court twice leads me to believe he's not one of the more planning of individuals. Still not the car's fault... -Curt From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious It's bad design, and I accept that it burns you. Cities have freeways. Western cities cover several hundred square miles of land and have long freeways that require high speed travel. While you may live and work in a totally urban environment with all needs within near walking distance.. a large segment of this country does not. This Leaf should have never been sold for use in this city, so you are correct, it doesn't work for me and it didn't work for the leasor either.. not here, where summertime temps routinely reach over 110 and AC is required for survival. The design power supply will run AC nicely.. but only give you about 40 miles of range, if you keep speeds below 40 MPH. Sorry for your burn.. but, here, it doesn't work. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It burns me when people say something is bad when using it outside of the design specification. The Leaf is a city car, not a highway car. I'm sure you know that the force required to move something increases geometrically with an exponential increase in speed. The place where an electric car excels is when you sit in traffic. If the AC/heat/lights aren't on the electric car uses basically no energy at all or just the little. So its not that its a bad car, its a bad car for YOU. Where your diesel pickup is a bad vehicle for people who live in the city, it uses too much fuel, is too hard to navigate down little streets and is way too hard to park. Neither is a bad vehicle just bad when outside of their design parameters. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Park your Toyota Pious No heater, no AC, no lights. Just drove it at prevailing freeway traffic speed and watched the fuel gage drop like a rock at 70 mph... Unlike eastern cities, this city covers more land mass than New Jersey, so getting somewhere is measured in hours of travel rather than miles, often. If I lived somewhere that only required transport to the train station or subway for the commute to work.. then my decision would, I suppose, be to choose between suicide or driving a Leaf. Thankfully, I don't have to make either choice. I have free use of the Leaf for next 2 months because I have ample space to park it, and my friend who owns the lease would turn it in early if he could without incurring penalty, which he can't. Frankly, it is not a practical car in this state. I will plug it in to keep the batteries charged and it will now set. I'm done with the hassle of it after this one excursion. My time has more value than waiting for it to charge up so I can be left dead on the destination end of the next trip. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hey Grant - did you have the AC or heater running by any chance? On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I drove a Leaf last fall when we were looking at pickup trucks. The kid didn't miss a beat when I went from driving a Nissan Titan to the Leaf. As a car I enjoyed it, it was reasonably quick and fairly quiet. Yes its ugly but its not really all that small compared to the real crapboxes like the Versa. I'm surprised to hear about 28 miles. We drove about 10 miles up a big hill and back down made enough power that the car only showed about 1% drop
Re: [MBZ] Plant Amnesty
I will gladly take berry plants off your hands. Are you anywhere near D.C.? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:29 AM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have been working the past two weeks and not been able to play with stuff at home. Today I got to see what the garden was up to. It has been going nuts. I began work on the chicken run, so the gals can play outside without Papa chicken around. Should have that nailed down by the end of the week. Looked around the garden and yanked some weeds and saw all the dang volunteers and plants that need new homes. Freecycle got lost of postings for adoption of Marionberries, Dogwood tree starts, Crocomisia, Sedums, and some other thing I am now forgetting. The pumpkin starts, watermelon starts and broccoli and greens all got placed. I am keeping an eye on the carrots, lettuce and beans (from seed) while the tomato and peppers are getting a chance to build strength before getting placed in the beds. The chicks will get to eat whatever sprouts from the weavil infested bird seed I spread in a bare patch of ground that will be enclosed in a month. The girls do need to have lots of space to wander and explore. The O'Henry Peach tree was starting to have some leaf curl troubles, and as luck would have it, I still have a whole bottle of the now banned Sulfur spray solution, so that got applied. I had to keep the chicks away from that section of the garden while I had them out on the lawn this afternoon. Wonderful day with 76*f temps. clay Who will address the dang leaking power steering pump on Tuesday ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
