Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting thread. I’ll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I’m wondering if that’s not such a good idea in the S430? Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Cool. I have a partial 5 quart jug from when I moved the older M119s up to the 15W-50. Guess I’ll only need one to make up what I’ll need. Thanks! I do find it interesting that there are stickers under the hood that say “Mercedes-Benz recommends Mobil1 oil” but there’s nothing specifying the proper viscosity. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting thread. I’ll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I’m wondering if that’s not such a good idea in the S430? Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
112 is v6 113 v8 Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have 3 112/113 engines and that is what I run Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting thread. I'll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I'm wondering if that's not such a good idea in the S430? Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. What is M112 and M113? is that the v6 E320 gas engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A little SL work
It was past time, so today I changed the oil and filter on my wife's 560 SL. (I drive it, too.) To do this you really have to jack up the car and do it old-school, so I did. For a change I didn't get too oily doing this. While I had the car up, though, it was time to replace the loose center drag link. I'd had a Lemforder riding around in the trunk for awhile, awaiting this job. It went smoothly, for suspension work, and the Harbor Freight tie rod press (small/cheap thing) was well worth its price. (I never have any luck with pickle forks!) I did get _very_ oily doing this job. The steering box leaks a bit, and everything under the car had a nice coat on it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Lab analysis from my OM603 OM606 say otherwise... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:52:15 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
What are you saying? Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lab analysis from my OM603 OM606 say otherwise... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:52:15 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes
That's because all Floridians get the privilege of subsidizing (via FL windstorm rider) uninsurable millionaires homes and ritzy developments built right on the ocean and other places where they should not be. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes ... Understand that homeowners insurance in Florida can be very, very significant. At one time my homeowner's insurance was over $3,000/year for a house valued at $185,000. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
I used Castrol SynBlend 10w40 at my last oil change. The '97 E420 seems to like it just fine. :) On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: This is in general, not MB Specific: I don't know where the break is, somewhere around mid 90s to 2000, but post 2000 gas engines need thin oil, and 15-50 may do damage, unless it is really worn. most are 0W-20 and some are 0W-30. The viscosity requirements in the owner's manual are the same old ones we're used to in 1980s engines. I can run 15W50 down to 15°F, and that's probably assuming dino oil. Not supposed to use xW30 above 50°. I'm just trying to figure out which spec. It seems like everybody uses 229.3 or 229.5, BEVO doesn't currently tell which spec sheet applies to engines as old as M119. Right about now, I'm tempted to dump in 5 qts of super high zinc/phosphorus 15W50 and top it off with the 10W40 high mileage. It's good to know that the high mileage has more of the good stuff in it than the regular 10W40. Or I can fill it all the way with 15W50 now and plan on changing to 0W40 or 5W40 if I still have the car in December, or I can stick it in the garage for the winter with the 2.3-16 and not worry about putting winter oil in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Interesting thread. I’ll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I’m wondering if that’s not such a good idea in the S430? Dan On May 31, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
Holy. For $1500, slap a rebuilt compressor on it and drive it into the ground. When you’re done, sell off the parts for a profit. I would be so all over that if it was close by. Even though I have nowhere to park it. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He added more photos but not of the hail damage which is what I asked for. Car sure looks clean though. Wonder what the chances are that it just needs an ac compressor. 1995 Mercedes Benz S600 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes
Aha! I guess things change. I became a halfback (one-time Yankee who lived in FL but later moved halfway back) 10 years ago, right after Katrina (although that was not a factor). Back then my FL homeowners and flood insurance was not bad (less than$2K); the bayou lot with 19 ft elevation was worth a lot more than the 50-year-old house. But FL is still a bargain, IMO. I have a brother who still lives in Northern suburban NJ and his taxes and insurance would water your eyes. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes That's more our wonderful Federal flood program. Laws and regulations have changed significantly to shift more of the burden to the insured with higher and higher premiums and deductibles. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's because all Floridians get the privilege of subsidizing (via FL windstorm rider) uninsurable millionaires homes and ritzy developments built right on the ocean and other places where they should not be. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes ... Understand that homeowners insurance in Florida can be very, very significant. At one time my homeowner's insurance was over $3,000/year for a house valued at $185,000. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: This is in general, not MB Specific: I don't know where the break is, somewhere around mid 90s to 2000, but post 2000 gas engines need thin oil, and 15-50 may do damage, unless it is really worn. most are 0W-20 and some are 0W-30. The viscosity requirements in the owner's manual are the same old ones we're used to in 1980s engines. I can run 15W50 down to 15°F, and that's probably assuming dino oil. Not supposed to use xW30 above 50°. I'm just trying to figure out which spec. It seems like everybody uses 229.3 or 229.5, BEVO doesn't currently tell which spec sheet applies to engines as old as M119. Right about now, I'm tempted to dump in 5 qts of super high zinc/phosphorus 15W50 and top it off with the 10W40 high mileage. It's good to know that the high mileage has more of the good stuff in it than the regular 10W40. Or I can fill it all the way with 15W50 now and plan on changing to 0W40 or 5W40 if I still have the car in December, or I can stick it in the garage for the winter with the 2.3-16 and not worry about putting winter oil in it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
You need to find someone to check it out. Isn’t Marmelstein in Arkieland? I know he’s in northern Arkieland, but he’s got to be closer. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's about 4 hours away from me, I am just concerned about how much hail damage it has. If it really is just the hood and trunk those can be replaced if pdr is too expensive. I would bet it's the evap leaking but your super lazy ac sealer would probably work. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The car poos should have bought
Black - hafta let it go. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] The car poos should have bought 1999 Mercedes-Benz E300 Turbodiesel http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5050143557.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
I don't know if this stuff would help, but the aviation version is the only oil additive that is recommended almost universally. Note that the reason is that it sticks to the cam in between engine runs, to keep tha cam from rusting, which is a major cause of engine wear in seldom flown aircraft. I put it in the truck, since I only drive it every other week or so. http://aslcamguard.com/products/automotive On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is becoming quite an issue with older engines. All new designs appear to use roller tappets, and the racing/mud bog guys, using old Detroit iron with flat tappets running directly on the camshaft are reporting serious wear problems. Since most newer engines don't need the phenyl phosphate additives, they are NOT in most engine oils anymore, they cause issues with catalytic converters. For three dollars an oil change I'd stick with the Truck and Turbo -- it is also acceptable for VW tdi engines, which also use flat tappets. Peter -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. What is M112 and M113? is that the v6 E320 gas engine? Yes, 112 is the '98-up 320 V-6 with 18 valves and 12 spark plugs. 113 is the 430 V-8 with 24 valves and 16 spark plugs. My 1999 e320 has a M112. Dan's new 2003 S430 is M`113. They take the same 0W40 stuff as a lot of BMWs and VWs do. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets
Interesting piece about Gullah (near Chuckietown, SC) baskets on CBS's Sunday Morning. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
I have 3 112/113 engines and that is what I run Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting thread. I'll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I'm wondering if that's not such a good idea in the S430? Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. What is M112 and M113? is that the v6 E320 gas engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Addition
Thank you! Dan On May 31, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Very nice! Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes
It was about two years ago that the Feds announced they would be “adjusting” the flood insurance program premiums to better reflect a particular property’s risk. Needless to say that freaked a lot of people out. It happened, but they tempered it a little so owners didn’t get slammed in one big hit. I think they agreed to phase the increased premiums over a period of time, I’m not sure what. All I know is that a lot of properties around here that are in flood zones that were on the market at the time came off the market in a big hurry. Potential buyers wouldn’t even look at them, as the ramp-up for premiums only applied to existing owners. That meant new owners would get hammered with 100% of the “new” premiums. There were all sorts of “the world is falling” pieces in the local media about the effects on home values. Doesn’t seem to have had much of an effect from what I can see. As far as I’m concerned that’s the way it should be. They should ban construction in flood zones and make those who have property in them pay their fair share of the risk. And I say this as someone who is on the edge of a flood zone and still carries Federal flood insurance. The “AE and “X” zones bisect my property, but when the property was built an exemption (“LOMA”) was filed with FEMA due to the ground level being raised from 20 some feet to nearly 38 feet. That effectively took me out of the flood zone, but if you look at the FEMA maps the zones still cross my property. FEMA has this weird arrangement where they don’t update maps when changes are made - they issue exemptions called LOMAs, or “Letter of Map Amendment”, to the property which the County keeps on file. So if you go and look up my address you’ll see that it’s in a flood zone. If you contact the County about anything regarding my property, such as title insurance, underwriting, etc., they’ll offer up the exemption to show the ground level has been changed. Goofy. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Aha! I guess things change. I became a halfback (one-time Yankee who lived in FL but later moved halfway back) 10 years ago, right after Katrina (although that was not a factor). Back then my FL homeowners and flood insurance was not bad (less than$2K); the bayou lot with 19 ft elevation was worth a lot more than the 50-year-old house. But FL is still a bargain, IMO. I have a brother who still lives in Northern suburban NJ and his taxes and insurance would water your eyes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
It's about 4 hours away from me, I am just concerned about how much hail damage it has. If it really is just the hood and trunk those can be replaced if pdr is too expensive. I would bet it's the evap leaking but your super lazy ac sealer would probably work. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Holy. For $1500, slap a rebuilt compressor on it and drive it into the ground. When you’re done, sell off the parts for a profit. I would be so all over that if it was close by. Even though I have nowhere to park it. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He added more photos but not of the hail damage which is what I asked for. Car sure looks clean though. Wonder what the chances are that it just needs an ac compressor. 1995 Mercedes Benz S600 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
You want to run the 0w40 in that 113 engine. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting thread. I’ll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I’m wondering if that’s not such a good idea in the S430? Dan On May 31, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's project
The emergency flashers worked for awhile and then quit, too. You replace the fuse lately? A bit of deoxit on the fuse contacts isn't a bad idea. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes
That's more our wonderful Federal flood program. Laws and regulations have changed significantly to shift more of the burden to the insured with higher and higher premiums and deductibles. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's because all Floridians get the privilege of subsidizing (via FL windstorm rider) uninsurable millionaires homes and ritzy developments built right on the ocean and other places where they should not be. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Solar Power Battle Puts Hawaii at Forefront of Worldwide Changes ... Understand that homeowners insurance in Florida can be very, very significant. At one time my homeowner's insurance was over $3,000/year for a house valued at $185,000. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Addition
Very nice! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:10 AM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: [MBZ] New Addition A big “Thank you!” to Rich for connecting me with the now former owner of this very nice 2003 S430: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2vlylaik5hgdr5f/AADAEYHLiQIyf3IR-4mNc_j_a?dl=0 One owner, full records, 96k on the clock. Drove it back from Houston yesterday without a hitch, averaging around 27 MPG. It just got washed and has been moved inside to cool off so the Martha process can begin. It’s coming due for an “A” service, so everything has been ordered and should be here by mid-week. Then I need to get the S500 sorted out so we can begin to prep the Mazda 6 for sale… Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] s600
He added more photos but not of the hail damage which is what I asked for. Car sure looks clean though. Wonder what the chances are that it just needs an ac compressor. 1995 Mercedes Benz S600 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stolen
The best angle to try and solve a problem is the tryangle. Mike Slow day in Michigan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The car poos should have bought
1999 Mercedes-Benz E300 Turbodiesel http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/5050143557.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
I have 3 112/113 engines and that is what I run Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting thread. I’ll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I’m wondering if that’s not such a good idea in the S430? Agree with Kaleb, I went through this three years ago. 0W40 euro car oils for M112 and M113. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: What are you saying? Looks like Max is saying that 0W40 doesn't cause wear metals in the analysis on his 603 and 606. Seems like a lot of people from Marshall on down have said a 602/603 is noisier on 0W40 than on 5W40. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stolen
In NC, too. Beginning to think about what lubrication/oil I should us on/in my mobility scooter. Any recommendations? 119 probably not good enough. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Esh via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Michael Esh michael...@mac.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] Stolen The best angle to try and solve a problem is the tryangle. Mike Slow day in Michigan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Wear metals were within limits using the oil I recommended on those two engines. Larry - do you still have that spreadsheet with all the lab results for various customers cars? Did that show oil brand and weight, as well as engine type? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 1:41:56 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What are you saying? Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lab analysis from my OM603 OM606 say otherwise... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:52:15 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
Well you must realize that 420 doesn't refer to 0420, but to 1620...the time that the potheads were through with classes and time to light up. They're NEVER awake at 0420 unless it's late party time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
It don't hurt nothing. I used a lot of it in my '83 240D back in the day when I had no good place to plug in a block heater and we had a super cold winter. That car leaked it real bad though. Leaked 5w40 a bit less while still starting okay so I switched to that. It did make a little more noise cold but it went away warm.I never did try it in a 601. It meets the appropriate MB spec though so I wouldn't hesitate to. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M119 oil 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 420
Nope, we called the UN425. Apparently my coworkers do know how to use Google. -Curt From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:43 PM Subject: 420 So Curt, you are teaching a course on 420? LOL.On May 31, 2015 10:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One of the classes I teach is coded UN422. When we brought out another class for its little brother product some of my colleagues suggested naming it the UN420. I said there was no way I was going to teach 420 but I wouldn't explain. I figured they ought to know how to work google by now. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Somebody needs this
JohnDeere 332 diesel Mower/Blade http://semo.craigslist.org/grd/5051856674.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
Well the dude just sold it. Crap. Oh well Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need to find someone to check it out. Isn’t Marmelstein in Arkieland? I know he’s in northern Arkieland, but he’s got to be closer. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's about 4 hours away from me, I am just concerned about how much hail damage it has. If it really is just the hood and trunk those can be replaced if pdr is too expensive. I would bet it's the evap leaking but your super lazy ac sealer would probably work. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
BTW what chassis is this? I saw one today flooded out on RT2 in MA. For those that know Concord RT2 makes a right turn (eastbound) which they've got under construction. Apparently drainage there is inadequate, the travel lane had 6-8 of water in it which the Jetta forded just fine. The turnoff to RT2A goes under a new bridge and looks to drop down about 24, apparently thats more than an S600 like (I couldn't see the badging) car could handle. It looked to have made it mostly through, the front bumper was out of the water. I'm guessing water was ingested... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] s600 He added more photos but not of the hail damage which is what I asked for. Car sure looks clean though. Wonder what the chances are that it just needs an ac compressor. 1995 Mercedes Benz S600 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this
Its cool but its a lot of money for a lawn mower. For that price you could have 2 plastic MTDs, unless you're mowing a lot of grass its not worth it. If you're mowing that much grass you should plant some trees. :) -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Somebody needs this JohnDeere 332 diesel Mower/Blade http://semo.craigslist.org/grd/5051856674.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
140 Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 9:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW what chassis is this? I saw one today flooded out on RT2 in MA. For those that know Concord RT2 makes a right turn (eastbound) which they've got under construction. Apparently drainage there is inadequate, the travel lane had 6-8 of water in it which the Jetta forded just fine. The turnoff to RT2A goes under a new bridge and looks to drop down about 24, apparently thats more than an S600 like (I couldn't see the badging) car could handle. It looked to have made it mostly through, the front bumper was out of the water. I'm guessing water was ingested... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] s600 He added more photos but not of the hail damage which is what I asked for. Car sure looks clean though. Wonder what the chances are that it just needs an ac compressor. 1995 Mercedes Benz S600 http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5036257858.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
I'd guess April 20 got the title of pot day AFTER the pot heads at Berkley used that time as their official start of smoke. 420 goes back a long way. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] 420 refers to April 20 declared to be world pot day. On May 31, 2015 9:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you must realize that 420 doesn't refer to 0420, but to 1620...the time that the potheads were through with classes and time to light up. They're NEVER awake at 0420 unless it's late party time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets
Wheh dat lady be at be makin dem Gullah basket own da teevee? She be up dere moun pleasant o she be dere in Chastun? --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 31, 2015, at 11:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I new Rich he gib us de strait poo on dem basket. De lady on de TV dis mawnin say she work 10 hour on dat basket. It sell fo $350. De lady an de basket dey look mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets You gotta watch out -- some of the baskets sorta look nice to the tourists but aren't well made like a true artist does ( and there are a few of them around and their baskets are mighty spendy). My wife, unfortunately, has learned the discernment... Miss Betsy she set up in de ro up dere n sell dem Gullah basket she make to dem rich whifolks come Keewaw. I axed her to makes me a sweet grass whip doon yo know wun day n she dun mades dat fo me but she done tows me not tell nobody wheah dat cames fum cawza dem ladies up dere in mount pleasant dey gits real upset peoples be doon dat kinda thing. I makes only dat wun fo you but you cain be upsettin dem ladies you know. It ain right. Dem ladies gots da law fo dem to sell dem baskets in da ro dere you knows, bunch a dem ladies dun wents up dere clumya on de bus an sats down wif da gubna Sanfuh he name and tells himself da law say dey can sets up an sell dem Gullah baskets dere in de ro an he says you ladies right bout dat you go on sells yo baskets dere in de ro ain nobody gone botha you. So we does n ain nobody be botha us cause dey knows whut de gubna he say bout dat an it bein da law. Ummmhmmm. --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 31, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Locally the sweet-grass baskets are famous and pricey. I think the small sizes start at $50 and go up. A few years ago on some Caribbean island, same baskets started at $10, and that was the seller's opening price for bidding. I never wanted nor needed one, so I passed, next time I'll get them for gifts I suppose. Could probably make a killing importing them from the islands and reselling locally, set up a little roadside stand, be the only white folks out there selling them, charge half the price the local sellers charge. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:26:16 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting piece about Gullah (near Chuckietown, SC) baskets on CBS's Sunday Morning. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
One of the classes I teach is coded UN422. When we brought out another class for its little brother product some of my colleagues suggested naming it the UN420. I said there was no way I was going to teach 420 but I wouldn't explain. I figured they ought to know how to work google by now. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
BTW hippy 420 would actually be 1620 not 0420. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 420
So Curt, you are teaching a course on 420? LOL. On May 31, 2015 10:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One of the classes I teach is coded UN422. When we brought out another class for its little brother product some of my colleagues suggested naming it the UN420. I said there was no way I was going to teach 420 but I wouldn't explain. I figured they ought to know how to work google by now. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets
You gotta watch out -- some of the baskets sorta look nice to the tourists but aren't well made like a true artist does ( and there are a few of them around and their baskets are mighty spendy). My wife, unfortunately, has learned the discernment... Miss Betsy she set up in de ro up dere n sell dem Gullah basket she make to dem rich whifolks come Keewaw. I axed her to makes me a sweet grass whip doon yo know wun day n she dun mades dat fo me but she done tows me not tell nobody wheah dat cames fum cawza dem ladies up dere in mount pleasant dey gits real upset peoples be doon dat kinda thing. I makes only dat wun fo you but you cain be upsettin dem ladies you know. It ain right. Dem ladies gots da law fo dem to sell dem baskets in da ro dere you knows, bunch a dem ladies dun wents up dere clumya on de bus an sats down wif da gubna Sanfuh he name and tells himself da law say dey can sets up an sell dem Gullah baskets dere in de ro an he says you ladies right bout dat you go on sells yo baskets dere in de ro ain nobody gone botha you. So we does n ain nobody be botha us cause dey knows whut de gubna he say bout dat an it bein da law. Ummmhmmm. --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 31, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Locally the sweet-grass baskets are famous and pricey. I think the small sizes start at $50 and go up. A few years ago on some Caribbean island, same baskets started at $10, and that was the seller's opening price for bidding. I never wanted nor needed one, so I passed, next time I'll get them for gifts I suppose. Could probably make a killing importing them from the islands and reselling locally, set up a little roadside stand, be the only white folks out there selling them, charge half the price the local sellers charge. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:26:16 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting piece about Gullah (near Chuckietown, SC) baskets on CBS's Sunday Morning. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes/Packard prototype
Here's something interesting I've never heard of: the W122. http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/design-history-packards-request-almost-fulfilled-by-mercedes-benz/ Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
He who hesitates is lost. On May 31, 2015 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well the dude just sold it. Crap. Oh well Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need to find someone to check it out. Isn’t Marmelstein in Arkieland? I know he’s in northern Arkieland, but he’s got to be closer. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's about 4 hours away from me, I am just concerned about how much hail damage it has. If it really is just the hood and trunk those can be replaced if pdr is too expensive. I would bet it's the evap leaking but your super lazy ac sealer would probably work. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
420 refers to April 20 declared to be world pot day. On May 31, 2015 9:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you must realize that 420 doesn't refer to 0420, but to 1620...the time that the potheads were through with classes and time to light up. They're NEVER awake at 0420 unless it's late party time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture) Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s600
Yep Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He who hesitates is lost. On May 31, 2015 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well the dude just sold it. Crap. Oh well Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You need to find someone to check it out. Isn’t Marmelstein in Arkieland? I know he’s in northern Arkieland, but he’s got to be closer. Dan On May 31, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's about 4 hours away from me, I am just concerned about how much hail damage it has. If it really is just the hood and trunk those can be replaced if pdr is too expensive. I would bet it's the evap leaking but your super lazy ac sealer would probably work. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's project
On Sun, 31 May 2015 10:26:08 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The emergency flashers worked for awhile and then quit, too. You replace the fuse lately? A bit of deoxit on the fuse contacts isn't a bad idea. I took this hint and found the fuse was good and the other things on the same circuit (#1), the right-side tail and parking lights, worked just fine. So I ran the emergency flashers until they quit and then disassembled the console and pulled the cover off the flasher module. It has a couple of transistors, a diode, a few resistors, and a relay. The relay coil was hot enough to burn myself on. One time, I saw a small wisp of smoke, but not enough to locate the source. After turning it off and waiting a while, when I turned it back on the relay operated normally. I never saw any more smoke. When the relay would stop operating, I could press on the armature to close the Normally Open contacts and the appropriate lights would come on, so it's not a problem of dirty switch contacts or wiring problems. I suspect that the resistance of the coil goes up enough when it's hot that there isn't enough current flowing to pull the armature in. The flasher module has Mercedes part number 000 821 09 63. I have found it at: - autohausAZ - Pelican Parts - Amazon - RMeuropean I have the choice of manufacturers: - Kaehler (KAE) [autohausAZ and RMeuropean] - Wehrle [Pelican Parts, which says Wehrle is better than KAE] Anyone have any opinions on manufacturer or vendor? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Peter, isn't your VW a 2003? AFAIK M1 5w40 doesn't carry any VW spec. Supposedly this is because they've never applied for it and it will work fine in the older cars. I'm not sure that applies to the PD engines in the 2003 and newer cars. I'm reasonably sure it does NOT apply to the newest and just before it generations. Those cars apparently require an Xw30 oil or bad things happen to the DPF (diesel particulate filter.) Greetings from 30,000 feet BTW. JetBlue wifi is free. -Curt From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M119 oil Truck and turbo only, it's the only on of them you mention that I KNOW has the necessary lubricants for high friction flat surfaces -- I don't know the design of the M119 all that well, but if it uses cams running on rocker arms, it needs the high friction flat surface lubricants. This is becoming quite an issue with older engines. All new designs appear to use roller tappets, and the racing/mud bog guys, using old Detroit iron with flat tappets running directly on the camshaft are reporting serious wear problems. Since most newer engines don't need the phenyl phosphate additives, they are NOT in most engine oils anymore, they cause issues with catalytic converters. For three dollars an oil change I'd stick with the Truck and Turbo -- it is also acceptable for VW tdi engines, which also use flat tappets. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
My understanding is that section 420 (or 4.20 or something) reefers to some law related to illegalization of the herb mon. But I also heard that might not be true, who knows. --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 31, 2015, at 10:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd guess April 20 got the title of pot day AFTER the pot heads at Berkley used that time as their official start of smoke. 420 goes back a long way. -Curt From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] 420 refers to April 20 declared to be world pot day. On May 31, 2015 9:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you must realize that 420 doesn't refer to 0420, but to 1620...the time that the potheads were through with classes and time to light up. They're NEVER awake at 0420 unless it's late party time. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 2:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project] On Sun, 31 May 2015 12:49:16 -0700 Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Boy, I never would have guessed that! I set my alarm weeks ago, long before I knew the slang expression. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
On Sun, 31 May 2015 18:06:53 -0700 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you must realize that 420 doesn't refer to 0420, but to 1620...the time that the potheads were through with classes and time to light up. They're NEVER awake at 0420 unless it's late party time. I see. Well, I'm awake and getting up at 0420. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets
I new Rich he gib us de strait poo on dem basket. De lady on de TV dis mawnin say she work 10 hour on dat basket. It sell fo $350. De lady an de basket dey look mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Gullah baskets You gotta watch out -- some of the baskets sorta look nice to the tourists but aren't well made like a true artist does ( and there are a few of them around and their baskets are mighty spendy). My wife, unfortunately, has learned the discernment... Miss Betsy she set up in de ro up dere n sell dem Gullah basket she make to dem rich whifolks come Keewaw. I axed her to makes me a sweet grass whip doon yo know wun day n she dun mades dat fo me but she done tows me not tell nobody wheah dat cames fum cawza dem ladies up dere in mount pleasant dey gits real upset peoples be doon dat kinda thing. I makes only dat wun fo you but you cain be upsettin dem ladies you know. It ain right. Dem ladies gots da law fo dem to sell dem baskets in da ro dere you knows, bunch a dem ladies dun wents up dere clumya on de bus an sats down wif da gubna Sanfuh he name and tells himself da law say dey can sets up an sell dem Gullah baskets dere in de ro an he says you ladies right bout dat you go on sells yo baskets dere in de ro ain nobody gone botha you. So we does n ain nobody be botha us cause dey knows whut de gubna he say bout dat an it bein da law. Ummmhmmm. --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 31, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Locally the sweet-grass baskets are famous and pricey. I think the small sizes start at $50 and go up. A few years ago on some Caribbean island, same baskets started at $10, and that was the seller's opening price for bidding. I never wanted nor needed one, so I passed, next time I'll get them for gifts I suppose. Could probably make a killing importing them from the islands and reselling locally, set up a little roadside stand, be the only white folks out there selling them, charge half the price the local sellers charge. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:26:16 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting piece about Gullah (near Chuckietown, SC) baskets on CBS's Sunday Morning. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
THe engines that call for 0W-x oil have tighter clearances and are made for the light oil. if the mfgr call for 0W-20, that is what should be used. some call for 0W-30. the 0W-40 may be the spec for some, but none I have seen. TO me it is an attempt to cover more vehicles with one oil. My 09 Brand X calls for 0W-20. I dunno what MB calls for after 87. That is the newest MB I have. Interesting thread. I'll be buying oil for the S430 shortly. I run 15W-50 in everything here, mainly due to the heat. I'm wondering if that's not such a good idea in the S430? Dan On May 31, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
Craig inquires: ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. 420 is an urban slang expression for marijuana. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M119 oil
'Been using a drop of M1 on appropriate points occasionally on my mobility scooter for 'bout 10 years. It maxes out at about 6 knots. S'pose if I switch to M119, can I squeeze another knot (or even 1/2 knot) and more range out of it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M119 oil Wear metals were within limits using the oil I recommended on those two engines. Larry - do you still have that spreadsheet with all the lab results for various customers cars? Did that show oil brand and weight, as well as engine type? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 1:41:56 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What are you saying? Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lab analysis from my OM603 OM606 say otherwise... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 31, 2015 11:52:15 AM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0w-40 Euro car formula. I'd use that in all your Mercedes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Not for OM61x and OM60x engines. too thin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
I'll second that, glad to hear that Shirley's recovering is going well. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 30, 2015 10:57:10 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 'Hope the rest of her recovery goes well and quickly and your trips remain safe. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
On Sat, 30 May 2015 22:46:01 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig wrote: I started my class at CNM in Albuquerque on 26 May. I get up at 0420..., ...oh, so you are one of those guys, you hippie. Hippie? Please explain. Our alarm goes off at 0420 also... I see. 0420 is a big change for me -- I was used to getting up at 0730 - 0830. The most difficult thing is going to bed at the right time. What classes do you need, Dr. Craig? Commercial drivers license. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
On Sun, 31 May 2015 03:32:31 + Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Thank you, Fred, for the PDF of two pages of 83-300. That shows exactly what I need. Hopefully the 240D's wiring is the same as that of the 300D in this area. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
On Sun, 31 May 2015 00:53:42 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does this help: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/ETM/80_240.pdf Thank you, Scott. Yes, it does have what I need (on page 112). It also has a lot of other electrical schematics which might be helpful in the future. I can compare page 112 to what Fred sent. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
On Sat, 30 May 2015 22:40:05 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig wrote: Does someone have a copy of the electrical schematic that shows the emergency/turn signal flasher and how it hooks up to the car's wiring? What year W123? 1982 240D Let me look at manuals here. Fred sent a PDF and Scott send a link to another PDF, so I think I have all I need. Thank you. Thanks for letting us know that the emergency flashers are the turn signal flashers - we have super fast turn signal flashers. Can we expect emergency flashers to flash super fast like the turn signal flashers? I think the super fast turn signal flashers is due to a bulb burned out. Put on the emergency flashers and take a walk around the car to make sure everything is working as it should. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
On Sun, 31 May 2015 06:19:48 -0600 Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2015 00:53:42 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does this help: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/ETM/80_240.pdf Thank you, Scott. Yes, it does have what I need (on page 112). It also has a lot of other electrical schematics which might be helpful in the future. I can compare page 112 to what Fred sent. The PDF on the StarTek site for the 240D shows the flasher as a part of the hazard switch. The PDF Fred sent shows the flasher as a separate component with wires to the hazard switch, which is what my car has. Perhaps the StarTek site shows the wiring for an early 240D, while mine is a relatively late one. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
Z Sent from my Android-Powered Device - Reply message - From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Subject: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic Date: Sun, May 31, 2015 07:45 On Sun, 31 May 2015 06:19:48 -0600 Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2015 00:53:42 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does this help: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/ETM/80_240.pdf Thank you, Scott. Yes, it does have what I need (on page 112). It also has a lot of other electrical schematics which might be helpful in the future. I can compare page 112 to what Fred sent. The PDF on the StarTek site for the 240D shows the flasher as a part of the hazard switch. The PDF Fred sent shows the flasher as a separate component with wires to the hazard switch, which is what my car has. Perhaps the StarTek site shows the wiring for an early 240D, while mine is a relatively late one. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
On Sun, 31 May 2015 07:10:17 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'll second that, glad to hear that Shirley's recovering is going well. Thank you, Max. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shirley's mishaps [was: Re: Today's project]
On Sat, 30 May 2015 22:57:10 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 'Hope the rest of her recovery goes well and quickly and your trips remain safe. Thank you, Wilton. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic
Craig: Go to this site: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/matrix6.htm Then follow the menus to your exact year/model and go to the ETM (electronic troubleshooting manual). Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Flasher System Electrical Schematic On Sat, 30 May 2015 22:40:05 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig wrote: Does someone have a copy of the electrical schematic that shows the emergency/turn signal flasher and how it hooks up to the car's wiring? What year W123? 1982 240D Let me look at manuals here. Fred sent a PDF and Scott send a link to another PDF, so I think I have all I need. Thank you. Thanks for letting us know that the emergency flashers are the turn signal flashers - we have super fast turn signal flashers. Can we expect emergency flashers to flash super fast like the turn signal flashers? I think the super fast turn signal flashers is due to a bulb burned out. Put on the emergency flashers and take a walk around the car to make sure everything is working as it should. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M119 oil
Need to change the oil in the 1997 S420. Already have driven it almost 500 miles with who knows what in the sump, probably 5w30 dino oil. Made the trip to WallyWorld, home of the cheap Mobil 1, and found: 0W40 Euro car formula $24/5qt IIRC, this is the stuff that many 60x diesel owners have reported makes increased valve train noise. I only use it in my M112 because it's required there. 10W40 high mileage car formula $24/5qt. I bought this, but I'm not sure about the helps seal oil leaks part. Does it have seal swelling additives that would decrease seal life? 20W50 standard formula $24/5qt. I thought it might be a bit thick for year round use in a M119. 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck $27/4 qt. This is probably the best M119 oil they had in stock, but I was not thrilled with the price. What do you guys think I should do? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Truck and turbo only, it's the only on of them you mention that I KNOW has the necessary lubricants for high friction flat surfaces -- I don't know the design of the M119 all that well, but if it uses cams running on rocker arms, it needs the high friction flat surface lubricants. This is becoming quite an issue with older engines. All new designs appear to use roller tappets, and the racing/mud bog guys, using old Detroit iron with flat tappets running directly on the camshaft are reporting serious wear problems. Since most newer engines don't need the phenyl phosphate additives, they are NOT in most engine oils anymore, they cause issues with catalytic converters. For three dollars an oil change I'd stick with the Truck and Turbo -- it is also acceptable for VW tdi engines, which also use flat tappets. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:51:08 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 0W40 Euro car formula $24/5qt 10W40 high mileage car formula $24/5qt. 20W50 standard formula $24/5qt. 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck $27/4 qt. What do you guys think I should do? I used 0W40 in both our M119 and M104. Peter recommends the 5W40. It's actually $6.75/quart (you say the 5W40 is a four quart jug), while the others are $4.80/quart. At a seven quart fill, the difference is $13.65 for an oil change. But Peter's point is still true. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Craig via Mercedes wrote: But Peter's point is still true. And a little EPC research tells me it's got flat tappets. 119-050-08-25 So, stick with Turbo Diesel Truck or 15w50? Or have they taken the zinc out of the 15W50 by now? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
This is in general, not MB Specific: I don't know where the break is, somewhere around mid 90s to 2000, but post 2000 gas engines need thin oil, and 15-50 may do damage, unless it is really worn. most are 0W-20 and some are 0W-30. Consult the owners manual and the approved oils list for MB Craig via Mercedes wrote: But Peter's point is still true. And a little EPC research tells me it's got flat tappets. 119-050-08-25 So, stick with Turbo Diesel Truck or 15w50? Or have they taken the zinc out of the 15W50 by now? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 oil
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I would have bought the 0w40 for a gasser, I would not use it in a diesel I wish I knew what spec sheet to use for M119. 0W40 meets 229.3 and 229.5, which is why I use it in the M112. From Mobil: Their oil finder says to use 229.3 or 229.5, and recommends their 0W40 and 5W50. 0W40 has zinc and phosphorus levels of 1000 and 1100 ppm, as does 5W50. 10W40 high mileage is also 1000 and 1100. 15w50 that I use in my 2.3-16 is 1200 and 1300 5W40 TDT is 1130 and 1250. Does 13% more really make a difference? If so, am I better off with the 15W50? I already have about 7-8 qts of that in the garage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
