Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not personally but I can get what they're after - suppressing minority
voting in order to keep Rs in power.  Whatever it takes.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew, can you support that statement?  Can you name even one such person,
>> for example?  Has this person (assuming you can name one) obtained
>> comparable government documentation, like an EBT card?  The liberals claim
>> there is no voter fraud (without proof).  So I'll claim there are no
>> legitimate voters without ID (also without proof).
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>>
>>  > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>  > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>  > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 3:18 PM
>>  > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>
>>>  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa
>>>
>>>  > A lot of poor folks don't have the ID that is required.
>>  >
>>
>
> Hear Here!   +1
>
> For every po folk widdout a car'   day's 100 or a tousan fraudulent D
> votes.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 280 SE on Craigs list

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*"We decided not too try and start the vehicle.The owner will not be near
the vehicle until next weekend.I cannot get onto the property until she
gets back into town.So I cannot get to the car until she is here.Paul"*
Make an offer before "owner" returns.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> That could be really nice.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On January 16, 2016 6:57:52 PM EST, Mike Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >73 280SE 4.5 $3000.00 on Craigslist . No interest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >http://slo.craigslist.org/cto/5389945355.html
> >
> >
> >
> >Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Thanks.

Bob R
On Jan 16, 2016 9:54 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Hang on, Speed Racer. I think I will go get it Monday. I've been reading up
>> on swapping out all the o-rings and all the fuel lines and it looks like
>> something I can manage.
>>
>> Bob R
>>
>
> Not hard.  I have what's left of the 606 writeup after I modified it for
> 603s.  I'll send it to ya.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Haven't several of you been complaining that more and more W123 parts are
becoming un-obtainium? That's why the swap could be a risky mistake. Better
swap it for a W140.


there are still enough 123s in junkyards.  Even "overpriced" 123 
parts are likely to be cheaper than 140 parts, and you'll need less 
of em.  If you get steel wheels, you don't need to clean and repaint 
bundts.


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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I loved the maintenance simplicity/ease of my non-turbo 123 300TD.  That
little wagon could haul a lot and it still had many modern features.  The
ACC servo even worked most of the time.  It sat un-driven for a couple years
before I bought it.  For a few years I only drive it around town and worried
a lot about what it would do on the open road.  But when I took it on the
interstate it ran great.  For a 30-40 year-old design it was an amazing car.
Scott


More than that:  The 126 design is 40 years old now.

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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Haven't several of you been complaining that more and more W123 parts are
becoming un-obtainium? That's why the swap could be a risky mistake. Better
swap it for a W140.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I loved the maintenance simplicity/ease of my non-turbo 123 300TD.  That
> little wagon could haul a lot and it still had many modern features.  >
> From:  clay via Mercedes
> >
> > I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a
> > reliable W123
> >
> > clay
> >
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew, can you support that statement?  Can you name even one such person,
for example?  Has this person (assuming you can name one) obtained
comparable government documentation, like an EBT card?  The liberals claim
there is no voter fraud (without proof).  So I'll claim there are no
legitimate voters without ID (also without proof).


 -Original Message-

 > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 3:18 PM
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 Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa


 > A lot of poor folks don't have the ID that is required.
 >


Hear Here!   +1

For every po folk widdout a car'   day's 100 or a tousan fraudulent D votes.

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Re: [MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Hang on, Speed Racer. I think I will go get it Monday. I've been reading up
on swapping out all the o-rings and all the fuel lines and it looks like
something I can manage.

Bob R


Not hard.  I have what's left of the 606 writeup after I modified it 
for 603s.  I'll send it to ya.


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[MBZ] Why cars go to auction WUZ: Stealer hires morons

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

THIS is why cars go to auction.  Stealer monkeys can't/won't fix em; 
just bleed the owner dry.  Owner gets PO'd and trades for Detriot or 
asian iron.  Trade in stealer sends the car to auction.


Last wed there were TWO chrysler 300s which opened the RF window when 
you turn the steering wheel.  I drove one out of the auction line and 
turned right; the window went down.  Tried to put it up and the 
steering wheel kept trying to put it down.  Parked it and the same 
routine.  Eventually I got it to stay up long enough to get the key 
off.  I commented about it to the lane manager and she pointed to one 
opposite it across the drive and said "That one does the same thing."


Memo to Dan:  Swap for the 123.  Today I noticed the files on my 
computer.  When I find things that are not in the book or explained 
better (etc.) I name files as MB123... or MB124... etc.  I bet I have 
twice as many for 124 as for 123.  123s are simpler and about the 
only thing I ever had to refer to "the book" for was the torque specs 
when I rebuilt the OM616.  I have nice paper engine and chassis 
manuals, but they are virtually unused.



The airmatic system in Victor spit out errors after my indy 
installed a fresh upper control arm on the W220.  I had him take a 
look and the fault codes steered him to the pump.  Turned out the 
pump was not the failure point.  Left side showed 4mm, driver 
side(repair) reported 33mm.  System seemed to try to make it right, 
but would just toss hands in the air and give up after a bit.  Spit 
out the error code and drop the offending corner.  Indy said this is 
a job for STEALERSHIP!


I wasted three hours at the dealer while they diagnosed.  The web 
scheduled appointment failed to show on their computer.  Idiots. 
They decided it was a sensor issue and would have the parts within 
30 hours, so I went back mid-week.  Wasted another three hours while 
the parts went in,  Service idiot was surprised to see me back.  I 
inquired as to MBCA discounts and was assured I would have that 
taken into account.  At the end of the visit he informs me that his 
tech says my shop installed the wrong part.  New part was not 
identical to the old, and it should look just like the part on the 
other side.  WOW!  Sounds like a huge mistake.  Their "fix" was to 
booger the computer to ignore adjusting the suspension and to just 
have it produce the error each time I start the car.  Make my indy 
put the "proper" benz part as replacement, then go back for Stealer 
to calibrate.  I paid, but later saw no club discount.


My indy was pretty sure he had installed the correct part, but ... 
things can happen.  He orders up the part from an out of state 
dealer (none available local) and has to move back the appointment. 
I dropped the car off evening before and indy has the REAL part and 
my old part.  I am shown both and see that the new part is stouter, 
but the mounting point has been machined to same thickness as 
original part.  Lemforder makes the part for Benz, with PN and star 
cast in.  Calipers confirm no variance at ounting point.  Indy does 
not want to destroy a perfectly fine part to install the exact same 
part four weeks after installing it.   Sounds reasonable, so I need 
to figure out what the stealer did.  We arrange to have a leak down 
test on the system done in the morning, while I go over my records 
on work done looking for support that Lemforder part was used. 

The next day, I stop off at the shop to get part numbers and backing 
docs just as the parts rep shows with the exact same part as was 
installed on my car.  Lemforder, exactly the same as Benz, just has 
the PN and star ground off.  WIth that all verifying my indy's story 
and proving the Stealership wrong on their diagnosis, I head to the 
Benz store.  Service manager blows me off, the desk jockey I dealt 
with is not there that morning, I will get a call on MLK day.  I 
told him I was unimpressed with the lack of knowledge shown by the 
tech, the lies, and the excessive fee to fail to fix the issue.  I 
advise him I want a solution, no more stories.




clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I loved the maintenance simplicity/ease of my non-turbo 123 300TD.  That
little wagon could haul a lot and it still had many modern features.  The
ACC servo even worked most of the time.  It sat un-driven for a couple years
before I bought it.  For a few years I only drive it around town and worried
a lot about what it would do on the open road.  But when I took it on the
interstate it ran great.  For a 30-40 year-old design it was an amazing car.
Scott

> -Original Message-
> From:  clay via Mercedes
> 
> I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a
> reliable W123
> 
> clay
> 



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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in 
Orlando.  221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same 
color this week.  Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine 
from a 1985 300D due to the previous (original owner) breaking a 
timing chain.  They parked it at that time and then sold it to the 
current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer maintained, full 
records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.


I'm getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the 
VMI from MB of Tampa on Monday as well.


He wants to swap for my W220.

Dan not ready to be committed
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You'd be trading a soulless, expensive to maintain gasser for what 
may be argued as the most reliable car ever.  The 123 is 
traditionally pretty cheap to maintain.  What's not to like?  But ask 
for pictures from before the paint.


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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

It has an air cleaner that looks like it might hold the OE paper filter.



Seems to be missing an air cleaner.  Hmmm.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 And the paint is still "shinny", too!

 "Built like a tank, runs like a locomotive".  Interesting description.

 I am talking to a retiree with a one owner 300D that is interested in
 swapping for my S430.  More as I know it.

 Dan


 > On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 >
 > this is not a hunday this a Mercedes and runs like one!  $1799.99 firmed
 come on down and drive her away
 >

 > > --R
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Re: [MBZ] 72 350SL looks nice

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, that's been listed before, nice looking car.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 16, 2016 2:22:07 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5365607226.html
>
>--R
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Re: [MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll bet you could get it for a grand.  Sure sounds like O-rings leaking to me.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 16, 2016 6:05:59 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The shop next to my CrossFit gym still has that 99 e320 diesel sitting.
>I
>talked to the guy a couple of months ago he wanted 1700 for it. Lost a
>little interest. I talk to him again and now he'll take 1200. Ran the
>carfax it's been maintained regularly. I finally got him to tell me the
>reason the lady brought it in was it was leaking fuel . Everything I've
>read about the 606 engines is that the injector pumps need to have the
>o-rings replaced periodically. Most everything I read said those
>injection
>pumps don't fail. The car has got  275000 miles on it. The car is in
>really
>good shape. I just don't know of anything else that could be
>historically
>lurking on one of those at that mileage. I reckon you guys would have
>pounced on this by now?
>
>Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] 280 SE on Craigs list

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That could be really nice.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 16, 2016 6:57:52 PM EST, Mike Esh via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>73 280SE 4.5 $3000.00 on Craigslist . No interest
>
>
>
>
>
>http://slo.craigslist.org/cto/5389945355.html
>
> 
>
>Michael E. Esh
>m...@barr.com
>michael...@mac.com
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, that's crazy, the 123 car would need to be pristine.  Don't forget that a 
123 diesel is LOUD.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have no idea why anyone would want a 300SEL.  Talk about a dog.  I 
have driven several.  You have to rev the piss out of it to get it to move.


On 1/16/2016 8:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

My situation boils down to this:

Nice car, well cared for, everything works.  I have the stuff required to 
perform diagnostics on it and make most repairs.  It has needed nothing since I 
bought it.  I’ve put about 10k miles on it, mostly due to the trip from Houston 
and a round trip to Mobile.  Otherwise it would be more like 7.5k.  It 
currently has 106k on the clock.  It’s nice to drive, handles relatively well 
and gets pretty good gas mileage considering the size - I typically average 
over 20 mpg a tank in a 50-50 highway/city driving cycle.

I am terrified that something is going to break.  I can relate this to the 
paranoia over the W140 and how it was so “sophisticated” that it would cost a 
fortune to repair and maintain.  Of course that’s not the case, as the W140 is 
fairly simple to maintain and the systems are nowhere near as complex as the 
W220.

The W220 has a CANBUS system where everything, and I mean everything, talks 
over it.  There are critical choke points, called “SAMs” that act as the 
network switches, for lack of a better description.  If one of these SAMs 
fails, and they do as the cars age, you’re screwed.  It’s a unique part that’s 
MB only, to the tune of a grand or more.  Without it the car is scrap metal.  
Then you have the air suspension, which, I’ll admit is nice, but problematic.  
When it’s working it’s great, but if one strut/airbag goes out, again, the car 
is pretty much flatbed material.  A rebuilt aftermarket strut/airbag runs 
around $600, and they’re supposed to be replaced in pairs.  That’s a $1300 bill 
as a DIY job, far more if you’re paying someone to do the work.

It’s stuff like this that makes me long for something simple, as even a W140 is 
simple compared to these cars.

And lastly, as I’ve said before, this car has no soul.  I can’t pick it out of 
the parking lot with all the other Asian and domestic jellybeans.  I enjoy 
driving my car, even for utilitarian purposes, and one of the reasons I’ve 
driven Mercedes besides the obvious is their uniqueness and panaché.  You know 
a W140 is a Mercedes - there’s nothing else on the road like it.  Same for a 
W123 or W126, or any other MB model made prior to 2000.  While this isn’t a 
major deal, it’s a nagging issue in the back of my mind.

I really like the S-class cars, regardless of vintage, so ideally I would like 
to go to a W126 or W140.  Diesel would be great, but it’s not absolute.  My 
bucket list car is a (go ahead, Kaleb, thrash me for it) W126 300SEL, which 
isn’t the easiest thing to find.

What really hangs this whole thing up is that I have nothing to cover for me if 
I sell.  I would have to rent a car in the interim or scramble to find a 
replacement, which is not the idea way to be looking for a car.

Whatever….

Dan






On Jan 16, 2016, at 8:35 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:

I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a 
reliable W123

clay



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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

My situation boils down to this:

Nice car, well cared for, everything works.  I have the stuff required to 
perform diagnostics on it and make most repairs.  It has needed nothing since I 
bought it.  I’ve put about 10k miles on it, mostly due to the trip from Houston 
and a round trip to Mobile.  Otherwise it would be more like 7.5k.  It 
currently has 106k on the clock.  It’s nice to drive, handles relatively well 
and gets pretty good gas mileage considering the size - I typically average 
over 20 mpg a tank in a 50-50 highway/city driving cycle.

I am terrified that something is going to break.  I can relate this to the 
paranoia over the W140 and how it was so “sophisticated” that it would cost a 
fortune to repair and maintain.  Of course that’s not the case, as the W140 is 
fairly simple to maintain and the systems are nowhere near as complex as the 
W220.

The W220 has a CANBUS system where everything, and I mean everything, talks 
over it.  There are critical choke points, called “SAMs” that act as the 
network switches, for lack of a better description.  If one of these SAMs 
fails, and they do as the cars age, you’re screwed.  It’s a unique part that’s 
MB only, to the tune of a grand or more.  Without it the car is scrap metal.  
Then you have the air suspension, which, I’ll admit is nice, but problematic.  
When it’s working it’s great, but if one strut/airbag goes out, again, the car 
is pretty much flatbed material.  A rebuilt aftermarket strut/airbag runs 
around $600, and they’re supposed to be replaced in pairs.  That’s a $1300 bill 
as a DIY job, far more if you’re paying someone to do the work.

It’s stuff like this that makes me long for something simple, as even a W140 is 
simple compared to these cars.

And lastly, as I’ve said before, this car has no soul.  I can’t pick it out of 
the parking lot with all the other Asian and domestic jellybeans.  I enjoy 
driving my car, even for utilitarian purposes, and one of the reasons I’ve 
driven Mercedes besides the obvious is their uniqueness and panaché.  You know 
a W140 is a Mercedes - there’s nothing else on the road like it.  Same for a 
W123 or W126, or any other MB model made prior to 2000.  While this isn’t a 
major deal, it’s a nagging issue in the back of my mind.

I really like the S-class cars, regardless of vintage, so ideally I would like 
to go to a W126 or W140.  Diesel would be great, but it’s not absolute.  My 
bucket list car is a (go ahead, Kaleb, thrash me for it) W126 300SEL, which 
isn’t the easiest thing to find.

What really hangs this whole thing up is that I have nothing to cover for me if 
I sell.  I would have to rent a car in the interim or scramble to find a 
replacement, which is not the idea way to be looking for a car.

Whatever….

Dan





> On Jan 16, 2016, at 8:35 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a 
> reliable W123
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[clay via Mercedes]

I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a 
reliable W123

clay

On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
> Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
> previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that 
> time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
> maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
> 
> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from 
> MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
> 
> He wants to swap for my W220.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Hang on, Speed Racer. I think I will go get it Monday. I've been reading up
on swapping out all the o-rings and all the fuel lines and it looks like
something I can manage.

Bob R
On Jan 16, 2016 4:18 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea I was just waiting to hear back from you with more info. I suppose I
> should come out there and get it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The shop next to my CrossFit gym still has that 99 e320 diesel sitting. I
> > talked to the guy a couple of months ago he wanted 1700 for it. Lost a
> > little interest. I talk to him again and now he'll take 1200. Ran the
> > carfax it's been maintained regularly. I finally got him to tell me the
> > reason the lady brought it in was it was leaking fuel . Everything I've
> > read about the 606 engines is that the injector pumps need to have the
> > o-rings replaced periodically. Most everything I read said those
> injection
> > pumps don't fail. The car has got  275000 miles on it. The car is in
> really
> > good shape. I just don't know of anything else that could be historically
> > lurking on one of those at that mileage. I reckon you guys would have
> > pounced on this by now?
> >
> > Bob R
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[MBZ] 280 SE on Craigs list

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

73 280SE 4.5 $3000.00 on Craigslist . No interest





http://slo.craigslist.org/cto/5389945355.html



Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I agree.  I would much rather find a nice W126 or W140.

Drop me a PM with some pictures and a description.  And it has to have a title.

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A 220 is worth a hell of a lot more than a 123. I got a nice 140 diesel I may 
> be tempted to trade.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Andrew, can you support that statement?  Can you name even one such person,
for example?  Has this person (assuming you can name one) obtained
comparable government documentation, like an EBT card?  The liberals claim
there is no voter fraud (without proof).  So I'll claim there are no
legitimate voters without ID (also without proof).

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 3:18 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa
> 
> A lot of poor folks don't have the ID that is required.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Bingo!
> >
> > Same squawk in IA and other states.
> >
> >
> >
> > If voter fraud were not a reliable source of "D" votes, then why are
> > the
> >> "Ds" busting a gut trying to overturn the new NC law that requires
> >> voters to show ID?  Face it; you need ID to fly on a plane, drive a
> >> car, pick up many meds, buy cigarettes, and even buy a six-pack of
> >> beer.  The argument that it is too hard (but only certain groups) to
> >> get ID is nonsense.  These same folks sure don't have any problem
> >> getting their SNAP/EBT cards!  Have you ever met anyone who lacked an
> >> ID and couldn't get one?  But if a lie (especially a big one) is
> >> repeated often enough ...
> >>
> >>  > -Original Message-
> >>
> >>>  From:  Curly McLain via Mercedes
> >>>  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:53 AM
> >>>
> >> ...
> >>
> >>>
> >>>  There is always at least one contrarian.   The other alternative is
> >>>  that the voter fraud has been, like Chic a gogo, going on for
> >>>  decades.   This is a more believable explanation that "not one person
> >>>  voted for an R, L, C, S, G or whatever parties were on the ballot."
> >>>
> >>>  The "snopes" article also ignores the bat bros standing guard
> >>> outside to
> >>>
> >> chase
> >>
> >>>  away anyone not voting D.  That omission makes the article suspect.
> >>>
> >> Snopes
> >>
> >>>  has been found to be wrong (or misleading) before.
> >>>  Deliberate or not?  Hard to prove either way.
> >>>
> >>>  Their own article says that 7%, + - the margin of error, should have
> >>>  voted for R, L or other parties.   Just another indication of fraud.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

A 220 is worth a hell of a lot more than a 123. I got a nice 140 diesel I may 
be tempted to trade.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why?  What do you think the W220 is worth?  The market for them around here 
> is as bad as the R129 market.
> 
> Trade me a nice W126 diesel if you’ve got one, or a W140.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You are insane, that dude would be getting a hell of a deal in that trade
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
>>> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week. 
>>>  Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
>>> previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that 
>>> time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
>>> maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
>>> 
>>> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from 
>>> MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
>>> 
>>> He wants to swap for my W220.
>>> 
>>> Dan not ready to be committed
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Re: [MBZ] Stealer hires morons

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get a DAS system and troubleshoot it and make the adjustments yourself.  You 
would have spent less for the DAS system than your trip to the indy and stealer.

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:14 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The airmatic system in Victor spit out errors after my indy installed a fresh 
> upper control arm on the W220.  I had him take a look and the fault codes 
> steered him to the pump.  Turned out the pump was not the failure point.  
> Left side showed 4mm, driver side(repair) reported 33mm.  System seemed to 
> try to make it right, but would just toss hands in the air and give up after 
> a bit.  Spit out the error code and drop the offending corner.  Indy said 
> this is a job for STEALERSHIP!
> 
> I wasted three hours at the dealer while they diagnosed.  The web scheduled 
> appointment failed to show on their computer.  Idiots.   They decided it was 
> a sensor issue and would have the parts within 30 hours, so I went back 
> mid-week.  Wasted another three hours while the parts went in,  Service idiot 
> was surprised to see me back.  I inquired as to MBCA discounts and was 
> assured I would have that taken into account.  At the end of the visit he 
> informs me that his tech says my shop installed the wrong part.  New part was 
> not identical to the old, and it should look just like the part on the other 
> side.  WOW!  Sounds like a huge mistake.  Their "fix" was to booger the 
> computer to ignore adjusting the suspension and to just have it produce the 
> error each time I start the car.  Make my indy put the "proper" benz part as 
> replacement, then go back for Stealer to calibrate.  I paid, but later saw no 
> club discount.
> 
> My indy was pretty sure he had installed the correct part, but ... things can 
> happen.  He orders up the part from an out of state dealer (none available 
> local) and has to move back the appointment.  I dropped the car off evening 
> before and indy has the REAL part and my old part.  I am shown both and see 
> that the new part is stouter, but the mounting point has been machined to 
> same thickness as original part.  Lemforder makes the part for Benz, with PN 
> and star cast in.  Calipers confirm no variance at mounting point.  Indy does 
> not want to destroy a perfectly fine part to install the exact same part four 
> weeks after installing it.   Sounds reasonable, so I need to figure out what 
> the stealer did.  We arrange to have a leak down test on the system done in 
> the morning, while I go over my records on work done looking for support that 
> Lemforder part was used.  
> 
> The next day, I stop off at the shop to get part numbers and backing docs 
> just as the parts rep shows with the exact same part as was installed on my 
> car.  Lemforder, exactly the same as Benz, just has the PN and star ground 
> off.  WIth that all verifying my indy's story and proving the Stealership 
> wrong on their diagnosis, I head to the Benz store.  Service manager blows me 
> off, the desk jockey I dealt with is not there that morning, I will get a 
> call on MLK day.  I told him I was unimpressed with the lack of knowledge 
> shown by the tech, the lies, and the excessive fee to fail to fix the issue.  
> I advise him I want a solution, no more stories.
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I was just waiting to hear back from you with more info. I suppose I should 
come out there and get it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The shop next to my CrossFit gym still has that 99 e320 diesel sitting. I
> talked to the guy a couple of months ago he wanted 1700 for it. Lost a
> little interest. I talk to him again and now he'll take 1200. Ran the
> carfax it's been maintained regularly. I finally got him to tell me the
> reason the lady brought it in was it was leaking fuel . Everything I've
> read about the 606 engines is that the injector pumps need to have the
> o-rings replaced periodically. Most everything I read said those injection
> pumps don't fail. The car has got  275000 miles on it. The car is in really
> good shape. I just don't know of anything else that could be historically
> lurking on one of those at that mileage. I reckon you guys would have
> pounced on this by now?
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If I quoted the CL prices around here you would laugh, as there is no way 
anyone is getting them.  eBay has cars in the $7k-$9k range, but I don’t see 
these auctions closing.  Around here they’re going in the $7k range, maybe on a 
good day.  I have toyed with the idea of listing it on eBay with no reserve and 
cutting and running if it doesn’t make a decent price.

People are afraid of them because of the air suspension and because the earlier 
models were such unbelievable nightmares due to their Chrysler genetics.

This car runs great and the only issue it has is the e-brake release cable 
being bad.  I haven’t been able to get up the goomph to lay on my back under 
the dash for an hour to fix it.  Otherwise, everything else works, and I have 
added the factory hands free cell phone/Bluetooth integration and Voice Control.

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> OK yer killin me here, that is my buddy's car, tell me how bad the prices are 
> there and maybe we could talk
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] Stealer hires morons

[clay via Mercedes]

The airmatic system in Victor spit out errors after my indy installed a fresh 
upper control arm on the W220.  I had him take a look and the fault codes 
steered him to the pump.  Turned out the pump was not the failure point.  Left 
side showed 4mm, driver side(repair) reported 33mm.  System seemed to try to 
make it right, but would just toss hands in the air and give up after a bit.  
Spit out the error code and drop the offending corner.  Indy said this is a job 
for STEALERSHIP!

I wasted three hours at the dealer while they diagnosed.  The web scheduled 
appointment failed to show on their computer.  Idiots.   They decided it was a 
sensor issue and would have the parts within 30 hours, so I went back mid-week. 
 Wasted another three hours while the parts went in,  Service idiot was 
surprised to see me back.  I inquired as to MBCA discounts and was assured I 
would have that taken into account.  At the end of the visit he informs me that 
his tech says my shop installed the wrong part.  New part was not identical to 
the old, and it should look just like the part on the other side.  WOW!  Sounds 
like a huge mistake.  Their "fix" was to booger the computer to ignore 
adjusting the suspension and to just have it produce the error each time I 
start the car.  Make my indy put the "proper" benz part as replacement, then go 
back for Stealer to calibrate.  I paid, but later saw no club discount.

My indy was pretty sure he had installed the correct part, but ... things can 
happen.  He orders up the part from an out of state dealer (none available 
local) and has to move back the appointment.  I dropped the car off evening 
before and indy has the REAL part and my old part.  I am shown both and see 
that the new part is stouter, but the mounting point has been machined to same 
thickness as original part.  Lemforder makes the part for Benz, with PN and 
star cast in.  Calipers confirm no variance at mounting point.  Indy does not 
want to destroy a perfectly fine part to install the exact same part four weeks 
after installing it.   Sounds reasonable, so I need to figure out what the 
stealer did.  We arrange to have a leak down test on the system done in the 
morning, while I go over my records on work done looking for support that 
Lemforder part was used.  

The next day, I stop off at the shop to get part numbers and backing docs just 
as the parts rep shows with the exact same part as was installed on my car.  
Lemforder, exactly the same as Benz, just has the PN and star ground off.  WIth 
that all verifying my indy's story and proving the Stealership wrong on their 
diagnosis, I head to the Benz store.  Service manager blows me off, the desk 
jockey I dealt with is not there that morning, I will get a call on MLK day.  I 
told him I was unimpressed with the lack of knowledge shown by the tech, the 
lies, and the excessive fee to fail to fix the issue.  I advise him I want a 
solution, no more stories.



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

OK yer killin me here, that is my buddy's car, tell me how bad the 
prices are there and maybe we could talk


--R

On 1/16/16 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Why?  What do you think the W220 is worth?  The market for them around here is 
as bad as the R129 market.

Trade me a nice W126 diesel if you’ve got one, or a W140.

Dan
  

On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You are insane, that dude would be getting a hell of a deal in that trade

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that time 
and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.

I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from MB 
of Tampa on Monday as well.

He wants to swap for my W220.

Dan not ready to be committed
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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

This one was #95 and I did not notice if there was a blower on front.  
Too many people around to get a good pic from the front


--R

On 1/16/16 4:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/bentley-45-litre-supercharged-amherst-villiers

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[MBZ] 99 e320 D still sitting

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The shop next to my CrossFit gym still has that 99 e320 diesel sitting. I
talked to the guy a couple of months ago he wanted 1700 for it. Lost a
little interest. I talk to him again and now he'll take 1200. Ran the
carfax it's been maintained regularly. I finally got him to tell me the
reason the lady brought it in was it was leaking fuel . Everything I've
read about the 606 engines is that the injector pumps need to have the
o-rings replaced periodically. Most everything I read said those injection
pumps don't fail. The car has got  275000 miles on it. The car is in really
good shape. I just don't know of anything else that could be historically
lurking on one of those at that mileage. I reckon you guys would have
pounced on this by now?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why?  What do you think the W220 is worth?  The market for them around here is 
as bad as the R129 market.

Trade me a nice W126 diesel if you’ve got one, or a W140.

Dan
 
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You are insane, that dude would be getting a hell of a deal in that trade
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
>> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
>> Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
>> previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that 
>> time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
>> maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
>> 
>> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from 
>> MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
>> 
>> He wants to swap for my W220.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You are insane, that dude would be getting a hell of a deal in that trade

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> On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
> Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
> previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that 
> time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
> maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
> 
> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from 
> MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
> 
> He wants to swap for my W220.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We’ll see.  I’m not holding my breath until I see the car.  It’s in Orlando, so 
I probably won’t get over there until next weekend.

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Lucky you. Sounds great.
> 
> On Jan 16, 2016 3:44 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  > wrote:
> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
> Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
> previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that 
> time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
> maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
> 
> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from 
> MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
> 
> He wants to swap for my W220.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lucky you. Sounds great.
On Jan 16, 2016 3:44 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.
> 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this
> week.  Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due
> to the previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it
> at that time and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car,
> dealer maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.
>
> I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI
> from MB of Tampa on Monday as well.
>
> He wants to swap for my W220.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

And, not coincidentally, the inspiration for Fleming's only childrens' book:

http://nobs.nobsweb.org/first-book-show-preview-of-the-day-chitty-chitty-bang-bang/

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/bentley-45-litre-supercharged-amherst-villiers
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Radiator

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Looks like someone has a new W124 radiator on BW cheap:

According to Amazon, it's a 260/300/320 vergasser radiator. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/compatibility-chart/B002E2YEN6

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Re: [MBZ] This One's for Marmelstein

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

If they have Euro lights, bumpers and A/C, always willing to take a look!
:D

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> So you no longer lust after the coupes?
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 4:35 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Stupid lights, stupid bumpers, stupid A/C.  Got all that already.  :D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/product/bentley-45-litre-supercharged-amherst-villiers

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Re: [MBZ] This One's for Marmelstein

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So you no longer lust after the coupes?

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 4:35 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Stupid lights, stupid bumpers, stupid A/C.  Got all that already.  :D
> 


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[MBZ] W124 Radiator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like someone has a new W124 radiator on BW cheap:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2546610-w124-behr-radiator-new.html#post13656458
 


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] This One's for Marmelstein

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Stupid lights, stupid bumpers, stupid A/C.  Got all that already.  :D

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> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5405874237.html <
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5405874237.html>
>
> Doesn’t look too bad on initial look….
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

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> On January 16, 2016 at 3:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Seems to be missing an air cleaner.  Hmmm.

Looks to be in the can in front of the turbo. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dwight.
Have some skin in the game do you?
Fred.


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Mercedes 
Sent: 16 January 2016 20:57
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Cc: Dwight Giles
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

A taxidermist.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

A taxidermist.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 16, 2016 1:42 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> So that's where taxis go to die.
> Fred
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: 16 January 2016 18:07
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curly McLain
> Subject: [MBZ] What a waste!
>
> Borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section fakebook post.
>
> NO info, but from the license plates it appears to be somewhere in Yurp.
>
> Very wasteful, because I don't see a rusty car in the pile.
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[MBZ] This One's for Marmelstein

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5405874237.html 


Doesn’t look too bad on initial look….

Dan
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[MBZ] Am I Nutz?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando.  
221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week.  
Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the 
previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain.  They parked it at that time 
and then sold it to the current owner.  Lifetime Florida car, dealer 
maintained, full records, multiple long time Mercedes owning family.

I’m getting pictures from the body shop on Monday and will get the VMI from MB 
of Tampa on Monday as well.

He wants to swap for my W220.

Dan not ready to be committed
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Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"If you don't mind, I'd like to see the one in the middle of the pile as I
need another sun visor."

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:10 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > So that's where taxis go to die.
> > Fred
> >
>
> And at least one police car, which makes this scene in/near Der Vaterland.
>
> Of course, to the natives, this is like a pile of crushed Crown Vics...
>
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] 72 350SL looks nice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very shinny but what is that weird paint color?

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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5365607226.html
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> --R
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Re: [MBZ] This is wrong on multiple levels

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

3 cylinder engine, with a spare cylinder behind the seats just in case.

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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems to be missing an air cleaner.  Hmmm.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And the paint is still “shinny", too!
>
> “Built like a tank, runs like a locomotive”.  Interesting description.
>
> I am talking to a retiree with a one owner 300D that is interested in
> swapping for my S430.  More as I know it.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > this is not a hunday this a Mercedes and runs like one!  $1799.99 firmed
> come on down and drive her away
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 1/16/16 9:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Heres an odd one:
> >> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html
> >>
> >> After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with
> swapped
> >> out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.
> I've
> >> heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.
> >>
> >> Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Tampa

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A lot of poor folks don't have the ID that is required.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bingo!
>
> Same squawk in IA and other states.
>
>
>
> If voter fraud were not a reliable source of "D" votes, then why are the
>> "Ds" busting a gut trying to overturn the new NC law that requires voters
>> to
>> show ID?  Face it; you need ID to fly on a plane, drive a car, pick up
>> many
>> meds, buy cigarettes, and even buy a six-pack of beer.  The argument that
>> it
>> is too hard (but only certain groups) to get ID is nonsense.  These same
>> folks sure don't have any problem getting their SNAP/EBT cards!  Have you
>> ever met anyone who lacked an ID and couldn't get one?  But if a lie
>> (especially a big one) is repeated often enough ...
>>
>>  > -Original Message-
>>
>>>  From:  Curly McLain via Mercedes
>>>  Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:53 AM
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>>  There is always at least one contrarian.   The other alternative is
>>>  that the voter fraud has been, like Chic a gogo, going on for
>>>  decades.   This is a more believable explanation that "not one person
>>>  voted for an R, L, C, S, G or whatever parties were on the ballot."
>>>
>>>  The "snopes" article also ignores the bat bros standing guard outside to
>>>
>> chase
>>
>>>  away anyone not voting D.  That omission makes the article suspect.
>>>
>> Snopes
>>
>>>  has been found to be wrong (or misleading) before.
>>>  Deliberate or not?  Hard to prove either way.
>>>
>>>  Their own article says that 7%, + - the margin of error, should have
>>>  voted for R, L or other parties.   Just another indication of fraud.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So that's where taxis go to die.
> Fred
>

And at least one police car, which makes this scene in/near Der Vaterland.

Of course, to the natives, this is like a pile of crushed Crown Vics...

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Low-grade crack, Otherwise, it rocks. Really.

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

WOW! It has had a MAJOR valve adjustment!

Greg

-Original Message-
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Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:20 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: [MBZ] Low-grade crack, Otherwise, it rocks. Really.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5398757877.html

--R

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[MBZ] 72 350SL looks nice

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5365607226.html

--R

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[MBZ] Low-grade crack, Otherwise, it rocks. Really.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5398757877.html

--R

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[MBZ] This is wrong on multiple levels

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5384140217.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] What a waste!

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

So that's where taxis go to die.
Fred


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 16 January 2016 18:07
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Cc: Curly McLain
Subject: [MBZ] What a waste!

Borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section fakebook post.

NO info, but from the license plates it appears to be somewhere in Yurp.

Very wasteful, because I don't see a rusty car in the pile.

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[MBZ] What a waste!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section fakebook post.

NO info, but from the license plates it appears to be somewhere in Yurp.

Very wasteful, because I don't see a rusty car in the pile.<>
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Re: [MBZ] Trumps game plan

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

And he's not the only rich NYC resident who wants to be president.

"Clinton vs. Trump vs. Bloomberg would finally give America a diverse range of
NY-based oligarchs to choose from," Times reporter Alex Burns quipped...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/bloomberg-eyes-third-party-run-against-trump-and-clinton/article/2000502


Run Bloomie Run!  We need more candidates!

I hope he runs.   It would create an interesting political theatre 
production.  It would give mainstream eastern libs a better choice 
than a candidate who should be hung for treason or a grouchy ancient 
marxist.   And, a billionaire spending his money would make a better 
economic stimulus than the thug in chief giving billions of our 
children's and grandchildren's money to his thugcronies.


As of now, it looks like Bernie may carry Iowa.  The meltdown is beginning.

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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Corvair Greenbriar was the first 'merkun van.  Copied after the VW 
transporter which also came in many configurations from van to pickup 
to crewcab pickup.


Frod countered in 1962 with the falcon van.  Friend of mine had a 62 
falcon van named Butch.  Butch survived until 2008, when he got 
crushed.  Another fried of mine had a 64 "Mercury" van.  It was the 
canik version of the falcon van, like the Dogdr pickups of the era 
were labelled "Fargo in the GWN.


Dogde brought out the Sportsman van in 1966 or there abouts.  They 
were late to the van game.  Shoverlet had a "normal" van to counter 
the Falcon van by 1966 when Ralphie was beating the death knell of 
the corvair.


First van I drove was a 66 shovey named "Fred"  Fred took a group of 
4 HS friends on the "Great Trip to Canada" the summer after I got out 
of HS.  The second van was a 68 Dodge Sportsman.  The third was a 
shovey 68 stretched van.  The first van I owned was a 66 frod with a 
240 CI truck engine.  It was sold in 1988 after about 12 years.


In 1968, frod introduced a  bigger, wider van and the van size grew 
dramatically, and the fuel consumption went way up.  This trend 
continued to the present time with the long and tall Sprinter vans.


The growth of the van sizes laid the groundwork for a smaller, more 
economical van.  Dogde introduced the "Minivan" in 1983.  Iococca had 
presented the concept to frod in 1974, but frod rejected the idea. 
Since then there have been 2 segments, the van and the minivan, but 
from a historical perspective, the segments should be named the van 
and the overgrown van, maxivan or the term I used in the 70s, the 
fatvan.




Came in van as well as pickup.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 16, 2016 12:12 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


 Corvair "Greenbrier" - not common, but 100% legit:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Greenbrier

 They have an exotic car meet at the local brewpub on Sundays at 11:00.
 Co-worker told me about it, I'll let the youngster know as he'll be
 interested.

 Dan



 > On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 >
 > No Benzes at the local C&C this morning but there were a couple of very
 interesting old cars -- one big old Bentley straight 8, the guy started it
 up to move it and I was expecting fire and brimstone but it idled very
 quietly.  It had a leather "body" which was probably leather over wood?  I
 am guessing late 20s or 30s?  I would love something like that.  Then there
 was what looked like maybe a 30s Roller streamliner, I had never seen
 anything like it.  Was a drop-top or roadster but had 4 doors and seating
 for 4 or 5.  It was white, which was not particularly becoming,  but was a
 driver and was not all lovingly maintained and polished up which was cool.
 Both had all the right smells of burned oil and leaking gasoline and
 leather and wood.  I have pics, maybe I can get the list mom to approve
 them if I send them.
 >
 > There was a gorgeous maroon color Lambo roadster, I was talking to the
 owner for a minute who was actually not dickish which was a surprise,
 though my wife noticed he had his picture taped to the dash for some
 reason.  The car looked brand new, tires weren't even dirty.  There were a
 coupla Astons which were nice, and a bunch of old Brit roadsters, some I
 had seen before and see them on the road occasionally.  There was an old
 Corvair "truck" kind of thing, the cab was way forward and the back had one
 side that folded down to a ramp to access the bed, which was quite low.
 Looked like a total deathtrap, maybe Ralphie was right?
 >
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Re: [MBZ] Trumps game plan

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

And he's not the only rich NYC resident who wants to be president.

"Clinton vs. Trump vs. Bloomberg would finally give America a diverse range of
NY-based oligarchs to choose from," Times reporter Alex Burns quipped...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/bloomberg-eyes-third-party-run-against-trump-and-clinton/article/2000502

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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Came in van as well as pickup.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 16, 2016 12:12 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Corvair “Greenbrier” - not common, but 100% legit:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Greenbrier
>
> They have an exotic car meet at the local brewpub on Sundays at 11:00.
> Co-worker told me about it, I’ll let the youngster know as he’ll be
> interested.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > No Benzes at the local C&C this morning but there were a couple of very
> interesting old cars -- one big old Bentley straight 8, the guy started it
> up to move it and I was expecting fire and brimstone but it idled very
> quietly.  It had a leather "body" which was probably leather over wood?  I
> am guessing late 20s or 30s?  I would love something like that.  Then there
> was what looked like maybe a 30s Roller streamliner, I had never seen
> anything like it.  Was a drop-top or roadster but had 4 doors and seating
> for 4 or 5.  It was white, which was not particularly becoming,  but was a
> driver and was not all lovingly maintained and polished up which was cool.
> Both had all the right smells of burned oil and leaking gasoline and
> leather and wood.  I have pics, maybe I can get the list mom to approve
> them if I send them.
> >
> > There was a gorgeous maroon color Lambo roadster, I was talking to the
> owner for a minute who was actually not dickish which was a surprise,
> though my wife noticed he had his picture taped to the dash for some
> reason.  The car looked brand new, tires weren't even dirty.  There were a
> coupla Astons which were nice, and a bunch of old Brit roadsters, some I
> had seen before and see them on the road occasionally.  There was an old
> Corvair "truck" kind of thing, the cab was way forward and the back had one
> side that folded down to a ramp to access the bed, which was quite low.
> Looked like a total deathtrap, maybe Ralphie was right?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Corvair “Greenbrier” - not common, but 100% legit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Greenbrier

They have an exotic car meet at the local brewpub on Sundays at 11:00.  
Co-worker told me about it, I’ll let the youngster know as he’ll be interested.

Dan



> On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No Benzes at the local C&C this morning but there were a couple of very 
> interesting old cars -- one big old Bentley straight 8, the guy started it up 
> to move it and I was expecting fire and brimstone but it idled very quietly.  
> It had a leather "body" which was probably leather over wood?  I am guessing 
> late 20s or 30s?  I would love something like that.  Then there was what 
> looked like maybe a 30s Roller streamliner, I had never seen anything like 
> it.  Was a drop-top or roadster but had 4 doors and seating for 4 or 5.  It 
> was white, which was not particularly becoming,  but was a driver and was not 
> all lovingly maintained and polished up which was cool. Both had all the 
> right smells of burned oil and leaking gasoline and leather and wood.  I have 
> pics, maybe I can get the list mom to approve them if I send them.
> 
> There was a gorgeous maroon color Lambo roadster, I was talking to the owner 
> for a minute who was actually not dickish which was a surprise, though my 
> wife noticed he had his picture taped to the dash for some reason.  The car 
> looked brand new, tires weren't even dirty.  There were a coupla Astons which 
> were nice, and a bunch of old Brit roadsters, some I had seen before and see 
> them on the road occasionally.  There was an old Corvair "truck" kind of 
> thing, the cab was way forward and the back had one side that folded down to 
> a ramp to access the bed, which was quite low.  Looked like a total 
> deathtrap, maybe Ralphie was right?
> 
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And the paint is still “shinny", too!

“Built like a tank, runs like a locomotive”.  Interesting description.

I am talking to a retiree with a one owner 300D that is interested in swapping 
for my S430.  More as I know it.

Dan


> On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> this is not a hunday this a Mercedes and runs like one!  $1799.99 firmed come 
> on down and drive her away
> 
> --R
> 
> On 1/16/16 9:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>> Heres an odd one:
>> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html
>> 
>> After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with swapped
>> out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.  I've
>> heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.
>> 
>> Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Trumps game plan

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

For those interested in the mechanics of politics, this is an interesting 
theory which applies to Trumps campaign. It's tone is neither liberal or 
conservative although the (Briish?) writers may be.
~~~
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2016/01/15/trump-follows-in-the-footsteps-of-man-he-claims-to-despise/

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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

this is not a hunday this a Mercedes and runs like one!  $1799.99 firmed 
come on down and drive her away


--R

On 1/16/16 9:13 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Heres an odd one:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html

After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with swapped
out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.  I've
heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.

Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.

Jaime




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[MBZ] Cars/Coffee

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

No Benzes at the local C&C this morning but there were a couple of very 
interesting old cars -- one big old Bentley straight 8, the guy started 
it up to move it and I was expecting fire and brimstone but it idled 
very quietly.  It had a leather "body" which was probably leather over 
wood?  I am guessing late 20s or 30s?  I would love something like 
that.  Then there was what looked like maybe a 30s Roller streamliner, I 
had never seen anything like it.  Was a drop-top or roadster but had 4 
doors and seating for 4 or 5.  It was white, which was not particularly 
becoming,  but was a driver and was not all lovingly maintained and 
polished up which was cool. Both had all the right smells of burned oil 
and leaking gasoline and leather and wood.  I have pics, maybe I can get 
the list mom to approve them if I send them.


There was a gorgeous maroon color Lambo roadster, I was talking to the 
owner for a minute who was actually not dickish which was a surprise, 
though my wife noticed he had his picture taped to the dash for some 
reason.  The car looked brand new, tires weren't even dirty.  There were 
a coupla Astons which were nice, and a bunch of old Brit roadsters, some 
I had seen before and see them on the road occasionally.  There was an 
old Corvair "truck" kind of thing, the cab was way forward and the back 
had one side that folded down to a ramp to access the bed, which was 
quite low.  Looked like a total deathtrap, maybe Ralphie was right?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Heres an odd one:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html

After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with swapped
out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.  I've
heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.

Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.

Jaime



Before MB came out with the turbodiesels, there were 2 companies 
making turbo kits for MB in the USA, starting with the 220D.  I often 
thought about putting a turbo on my 200D, but never did because of 
cost and reliability concerns.  Much better to start with an engine 
designed for turbo.


Three things I always wanted in the 200D:  A turbo or an extra cyl; a 
5 speed, and a sunroof.


When the 240D and 300D NA came out, the turbo kits were available 
within a few months.  Someplace in the old Star magazines from that 
period, I would have ads for at least one of the turbo kit companies, 
and there was at least one review with photos.  I don't remember one 
with this little plumbing to the intake.


In the rear photo, it looks like the rear bumper is yuro, (RTW) which 
would lend credence to Jaime's theory.



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Coupe Lovers Rejoice!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well write a glowing ad with inflated price & give it a go.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 16, 2016 9:14 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Perhaps I should offer him my 85 300CD... I wonder how desperate he is!
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, not. A user is hardcore looking for a coupe. He has
> revived
> > every single CD thread with a post of "If you didn't sell it, PM me." One
> > of them is from Jan of 2014. :( Too bad.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There are tons of W123 coupes that suddenly sprung up on the Pelican
> > Parts
> > > “for sale” forum:
> > >
> > > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Doesn't look like the  turbo on my OM617

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 16, 2016 9:13 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Heres an odd one:
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html
>
> After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with swapped
> out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.  I've
> heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.
>
> Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.
>
> Jaime
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Coupe Lovers Rejoice!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I sit in traffic in my 124  300D usually for same,amount of time. I
save CD for shorter runs.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jan 15, 2016 6:44 PM, "Dave via Mercedes"  wrote:

> I rejoice every day when I climb into mine to sit in traffic for 1 to 1.5
> hours.
>
> 210,000 miles and counting.
>
> Dave L
> Lynnwood, Wa
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Coupe Lovers Rejoice!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Perhaps I should offer him my 85 300CD... I wonder how desperate he is!

Jaime


On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, not. A user is hardcore looking for a coupe. He has revived
> every single CD thread with a post of "If you didn't sell it, PM me." One
> of them is from Jan of 2014. :( Too bad.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There are tons of W123 coupes that suddenly sprung up on the Pelican
> Parts
> > “for sale” forum:
> >
> > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/
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[MBZ] 300D with aftermarket turbo

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Heres an odd one:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5405218855.html

After looking at it carefully, I figure its a grey market car with swapped
out seats and what appears to be an aftermarket turbo on a NA engine.  I've
heard that such kits exist, but have never actually seen one.

Certainly doesn't qualify for "100% original" but is interesting anyway.

Jaime


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