Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare

[clay via Mercedes]

My indy has gotten me to front his cars for him.  The newest victim is a 94 
C280 that is loaded.  Emerald green with grey leather.   It has all records 
from new, even the window sticker.   This thing has stuff my E300D did not, and 
the W220 does.  Small car, but the 6 cyl is a blast.  Owner forced me to take 
it home and drive it hard so I could feel just how good it was.  It is 
impressive.  KBB has it at $2500, NADA says $5800.  I figure with winter and 
summer wheels, 200K miles, all service done by dealer since new and everything 
works as it should, $4k is a reasonable price.  As for investment or value 
increase.. maybe it has hit floor and will now rise

clay




On Mar 27, 2016, at 7:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> Folks, this was a $90-000 car when new.
> 
> Remember when Mercedes didn't depreciate, and even used to actually
> increase in value every year?  How the mighty have fallen.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just down the road from my old 'hood!
>> 
>> In excellent shape by the year!
>> Heather seats
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/27/16 2:47 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> For all you long body fans.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fred Moir.
>>> Lynn MA.
>>> Diesel preferred.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: ro...@craigslist.org 
>>> Sent: 27 March 2016 18:26
>>> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
>>> Subject: Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> fred.s...@verizon.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mercedes 400SEL Long Body Very Rare
>>> 
>>> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5437062532.html
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Re: [MBZ] Battery prices?

[clay via Mercedes]

Interstate group 49 are around $190 wholesale around me.  There was discussion 
about who was providing the battery for the 77 SL, as seller used his shop 
battery and was not going to purchase a new one to put in the car he is 
selling.  His cost is $190 from the interwebs.  I think I am sourcing the 
battery from my collection of group 49s sitting around waiting to be used or 
dropped off at FLAPS

clay

On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

> Anybody know what a friendly/wholesale dealer would sell the usual Group 49 / 
> H8 battery (9069820008) for?
> Northlake wants $123 for internet customers, which implies about $116 for 
> wholesale, but I have a feeling that shipping kills that deal.
> List appears to be $165.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[clay via Mercedes]

yes, you should.  The SEC seems to have a virulent following.  The shop I visit 
has a non-op SEC w126 that was going to the crusher, but some guy is going to 
haul it a few hundred miles and make it all good again.   Maybe some day there 
will be folks who want a W140 V12

clay

On Mar 27, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> 
> 
> 1993 600sec s600 coupe Mercedes-Benz v12
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/5473720215.html
> 
> via cPro for Craigslist
> iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
> Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
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Re: [MBZ] POS S430

[clay via Mercedes]

A visit to the car doctor resulted in a manageable labor charge.  Stupid turd 
of a car.  Tech took the whole front apart to get at a garbage plastic $8 thing 
that should have been metal.  Connector to the heater had spring a pin hole 
leak that was piddling on the exhaust pipe making steam.

I spent the day at the shop buffing the project SL I am helping sell.  That 
prompted the owner to ask what it would be worth running.  Twice what I had it 
on CL for was my response.  About an hour later, he gets the tech to put a tow 
strap on it and moves it so I can better attack it with the random orbital 
buffer.  After I pause for lunch he has a battery put in it, puts fresh fuel, 
and gets the thing running.  With the new photos, I had to edit the listing.  
Some guy could have had a pretty good car for pocket change, pop a fresh 
battery and fuel in the tank and had a running car.  You snooze, you lose.



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:17 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

> I am sure the car knows that I speak ill of it.  To punish me it has 
> developed a coolant leak bad enough that the dash error computer told me I 
> had the leak.  I was pretty sure that bad things were going on when I would 
> come to a stop and a nebulous yellow mist would emanate from the driver side 
> wheel well.  That was on the way to the gig yesterday, so got home, after 
> filling the reserve tank with a half gallon of tap water, and am now trying 
> to figure out what has perished.
> 
> I am not fond of this car.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heres on for Grant...

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew missed a great opportunity this year to sell the bumper 
stickers he was s'posed to make: No bush; No Clin ton, and then the 
"I'm ready for pillary windows sign would've been a bestseller!




Hahahahaha... I saw that in Andrews front yard yesterday and I thought..
Dang... should I post that?

Looks like it's going viral... "It wasn't me"... ;

[Hey folks.. all in good fun.. ok? .. it's election season.. apparently
there are no rules... besides.. I'm getting tired of looking at naked pics
of Mrs Trump.. just a couple more times and I'm going to quit.. honest]



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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

[clay via Mercedes]

That looks just like the 300SE my kid owns.  Not sure it drives any better

clay

On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> Here is the car btw
> 
> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/5498776570.html
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You’re out of your ever lovin’ cotton pickin’ mind.
>> 
>> For $1500, maybe.  I certainly wouldn’t go above that considering the 
>> gremlins that could be lurking in the thing.
>> 
>> And as far as unique parts, there aren’t enough to make it worthwhile beyond 
>> that amount.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I 
>>> stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have 
>>> always wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30 
>>> minutes about the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine 
>>> wiring harness so that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the 
>>> guy who had to jump the car because it has been sitting for a while not 
>>> being driven. I get there and they have turned the car off and now it won't 
>>> start. Battery is toast. So looking at the car is it fairly clean, interior 
>>> in pretty good shape. Engine compartment looks clean. I ran the carfax and 
>>> it appears to have many maintenance entry's listed. It also had an accident 
>>> reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it was repaired properly it 
>>> appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to go, not real real 
>>> bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning with the battery 
>>> out of the SDL. Of course he says it ru
>>> ns great
>>> yada yada. My concern is the check engine light does not light when key is 
>>> on so bulb is probably out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine 
>>> light if I do go back and start it. As I have said I have wanted one of 
>>> these as a toy to mess with. It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the 
>>> for 400 plus hp where as the next year they were tuned down to about 380. 
>>> Guy wants $2500 but I bet I can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on 
>>> the "hood" if that tells you anything but has not been ghettoed out or 
>>> anything. So am I crazy and should run away or is it a crazy good deal and 
>>> I would be crazy to pass?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 

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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It's black - that's enough reason to salvage a car in OK, as far as I'm
concerned - - -

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here are some quick photos of this 2.5 I picked up last night. I looked at
> the car pretty good and see no evidence of any paint or body work. The
> paint appears to be original and is in fantastic shape. Car was probably
> garaged. I can't figure out why this would have a salvage title. Only issue
> I see is the broken turn signal lens.
>
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] VW

[OK Don via Mercedes]

We've been happy with the 2012 Passat TDI - now that the squirrels aren't
eating the wiring anymore (thanks to the pellet gun). the seats are not as
comfy as the MBs were, but otherwise it's an OK car - the fuel economy is
great. It feels more solid than the smaller VWs, but not as solid as an MB.
At half the cost new, I expect it to last half as long - but that will be
long enough for us.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We've got an '05 Golf TDI, I've been very happy with it. I think the
> previous owners got cheated when somebody "rebuilt" the transmission and
> maybe forgot to put oil in it or something. My VW Guru was shocked that it
> would need one at 150,000 miles.
> Its peppy and gets great mileage, feels not as solid as an MB but better
> than the equivalent asian or US iron.
> -Curt
>
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heres on for Grant...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hahahahaha... I saw that in Andrews front yard yesterday and I thought..
Dang... should I post that?

Looks like it's going viral... "It wasn't me"... ;

[Hey folks.. all in good fun.. ok? .. it's election season.. apparently
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> http://i.imgur.com/FpbKvOO.jpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:50:34 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On March 29, 2016 8:07:16 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:04:47 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >
> >> > >I think the mantles came with a warning that they were
> >radioactive.
> >> > 
> >> > So is milk!
> >>
> >> And granite!
> >
> >And bananas!
>
> My wife is radioactive!

Interesting story when I first started working at the Lab in Los Alamos:

I happened to be working in a part of the Lab (TA-53, in case you are
interested) that was set up for controlled public access -- they have
a half-mile-long 800 MeV accelerator that is used to irradiate various
target areas in three experimental user facilities. People throughout
the world bring experiments there to be bombarded by protons, electrons,
or neutrons (they have some real neat neutron diffractometry setups
there).

One of the results of all of the bombardment of things people have
brought is that the metal parts are "activated", that is, made
temporarily radioactive. Those who own the experiments have to wait
until the activation decays. Then, their experimental apparatus has
to be cleared for release by a Radiation Control Technician before
they can take it home.

Since the consequences of radioactive things being taken out of the Lab
are severe, they have many sophisticated radiation detectors near the
entrance guard shack monitoring the only road out of the facility.

This particular day, Shirley, who had a "spouse pass" to be able to come
onto the facility, had had some sort of medical test in Santa Fe and came
to pick me up from work that evening. Everything went as normal. Shirley
drove in, parked near the building, and waited for me to come out and
drive us home.

Since it was after hours, I stopped by the exit gate, punched the exit
button on the pylon in the middle of the road and waited for the gate to
open. I drove though the gate and all of a sudden, FLASHING LIGHTS, HORNS,
SIRENS!!! Since there was no guard at that time of day, I made a U-turn
around the guard shack and picked up the phone by the gate that rang in
the control area (which was immediately informed of an alarm condition).

The fellow who answered and I talked for awhile. Although I wasn't sure,
I suspected the test Shirley had had was a nuclear medicine test. I
suggested to him that I swipe my badge and drive back in a short ways,
turn around, let Shirley out, and drive the car out, while Shirley would
follow on foot. He thought that was a reasonable idea, and so that's what
we did.

I repeated the exit process with the car. Nothing happened (that was a
relief, our car wasn't contaminated). Shirley then walked up to the exit
button pylon and pushed the button. She got almost all the way out of the
facility when all of a sudden, FLASHING LIGHTS, HORNS, SIRENS!!!

I picked up the phone again and told the fellow what had happened, that
my wife had set off the alarm herself and that the medical test she had
had that day was most likely a nuclear medicine test. He said it was OK
and let us depart for home.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Radioactive? Y'mean, like, glow in the dark?


Not that far.  The good ones are coated in Thorium Oxide, which
glows white when heated to incandescence.  It's mildly radioactive.
More than bananas, you don't want to eat one.  I stuffed one into
my gamma counter once, it shot the needle way up.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

RB
Radioactive? Y'mean, like, glow in the dark?

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Randy Bennell via 
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Sent: 29 March 2016 22:36
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

On 29/03/2016 4:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of
>> the
>> country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems
>> they
>> had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
>> "unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I
>> believe.
>>
>> The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
>> America" original production ones.

I think the mantles came with a warning that they were radioactive.

RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktvTqknDobU
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aq5cqjUFOo


  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps
   
My wife is radioactive!
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 29, 2016 8:07:16 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:04:47 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> > >I think the mantles came with a warning that they were
>radioactive.
>> > 
>> > So is milk!
>>
>> And granite!
>
>And bananas!
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

That is the best way!  Then you can unplug the electrics and it won't 
run your battery down!  I am proud to say I have no Hirschmanns 
plugged in.   I quit putting new masts in about 10 yrs ago.


BTW, I have new in the bag antenna masts for 123, 124 and 126/107 
cars.  If anyone wants to buy one, they are for sale.



Antenna is broken, stuck up.
--
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'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

My wife is radioactive!
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 29, 2016 8:07:16 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:04:47 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> > >I think the mantles came with a warning that they were
>radioactive.
>> > 
>> > So is milk!
>>
>> And granite!
>
>And bananas!
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Antenna is broken, stuck up.
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'95 E300
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[MBZ] OT: Heres on for Grant...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

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-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:04:47 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > >I think the mantles came with a warning that they were radioactive.
> > 
> > So is milk!
>
> And granite!

And bananas!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We've got an '05 Golf TDI, I've been very happy with it. I think the previous 
owners got cheated when somebody "rebuilt" the transmission and maybe forgot to 
put oil in it or something. My VW Guru was shocked that it would need one at 
150,000 miles.
Its peppy and gets great mileage, feels not as solid as an MB but better than 
the equivalent asian or US iron.
-Curt

  From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Peter Frederick 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW
   
I bought a 2004 Golf TDI from my nephew, it's a great car.  It will be  
better when I get rid of the 18" rubber band tires, but so far it's  
great for driving to and from work.  It also doesn't need a ton of  
work like my MBs

Not the same quality and nowhere near as comfortable on long trips,  
but very nice.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I bought a 2004 Golf TDI from my nephew, it's a great car.  It will be  
better when I get rid of the 18" rubber band tires, but so far it's  
great for driving to and from work.  It also doesn't need a ton of  
work like my MBs


Not the same quality and nowhere near as comfortable on long trips,  
but very nice.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Actually for pure excitement maybe I should bring that to the ChowdaQ. You can 
hear it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSI3igk1BkM toward the end.
I recently bought a better microphone, need to get some work done with it.
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps
   
Never got to play with a military version, just camping trips as a kid and 
messing about with my current lamp, showing its operation to SWMBO and little 
SWMBO.

When trying to enjoy the great outdoors, less noise is better.

I saw a "new" in the box Aladdin go for about fifty dollars on EBay, I should 
have bid on it.  Plain glass base, the all brass versions look beautiful.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 29, 2016 9:52:22 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I was going to say you've never heard a really loud one but with your
>military experience maybe you have. The milspec lanterns are really
>loud.
>
>
>
>Curt
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

And granite!



Curt

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From:"Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 6:58 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

>On 29/03/2016 4:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>>Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
>>>country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
>>>had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
>>>"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.
>>>
>>>The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
>>>America" original production ones.
>>>
>>
>>It is soo nice to have the goobermnt making sure we can't buy 
>>products they don't want us to have.  Like land to grow crops on. 
>>Coal for fuel chemicals to kill mosquitos, the worlds largest 
>>killer of humans.
>>
>>They get all atwitter about banning guns, but have no problem 
>>killing many times more people by mosquito than what are killed by 
>>guns, including suicides.
>>
>>Personally, I like having asbestos insulation for wires in a stove 
>>or oven.  The amount of asbestos is so small it really does not 
>>represent a significant risk.
>>
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>
>I think the mantles came with a warning that they were radioactive.
>
>RB

So is milk!



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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On 29/03/2016 4:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.

The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
America" original production ones.



It is soo nice to have the goobermnt making sure we can't buy 
products they don't want us to have.   Like land to grow crops on. 
Coal for fuel chemicals to kill mosquitos, the worlds largest 
killer of humans.


They get all atwitter about banning guns, but have no problem 
killing many times more people by mosquito than what are killed by 
guns, including suicides.


Personally, I like having asbestos insulation for wires in a stove 
or oven.  The amount of asbestos is so small it really does not 
represent a significant risk.


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RB


So is milk!

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

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On 29/03/2016 4:49 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of 
the
country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems 
they

had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I 
believe.


The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
America" original production ones.



It is soo nice to have the goobermnt making sure we can't buy 
products they don't want us to have.   Like land to grow crops on. 
Coal for fuel chemicals to kill mosquitos, the worlds largest killer 
of humans.


They get all atwitter about banning guns, but have no problem killing 
many times more people by mosquito than what are killed by guns, 
including suicides.


Personally, I like having asbestos insulation for wires in a stove or 
oven.  The amount of asbestos is so small it really does not represent 
a significant risk.


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Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 29/03/2016 5:02 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb,
I see the problem in that one picture. The car has a cat attached to the left 
front wheel. The humane society will never let you drive the car. Sad you've 
been taken. Sell it cheap quickly and don't spread the pictures around.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale



No problem.
Just carefully remove the cat, wrap it up and mail it to Andrew.

RB

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[MBZ] 2.5 turbo

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 
I see the problem in that one picture. The car has a cat attached to the left 
front wheel. The humane society will never let you drive the car. Sad you've 
been taken. Sell it cheap quickly and don't spread the pictures around. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.

The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
America" original production ones.



It is soo nice to have the goobermnt making sure we can't buy 
products they don't want us to have.   Like land to grow crops on. 
Coal for fuel chemicals to kill mosquitos, the worlds largest killer 
of humans.


They get all atwitter about banning guns, but have no problem killing 
many times more people by mosquito than what are killed by guns, 
including suicides.


Personally, I like having asbestos insulation for wires in a stove or 
oven.  The amount of asbestos is so small it really does not 
represent a significant risk.


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Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] Am I crazy?

[Blue Ridge Mercedes via Mercedes]

Nope.  Nope.  Nopeoh, did I mention Nope?

Buy as LATE a 140 600 as you can find.

Jono
On Mar 26, 2016 9:11 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> Ok so I am on a car buying trip and picked up my old SDL from curly. I
> stopped in little rock for the night to check out a 92 600sel. I have
> always wanted one as a toy. Talked to the guy yesterday for about 30
> minutes about the car. He did specifically mention replacing the engine
> wiring harness so that is a somewhat positive sign. So I get ahold of the
> guy who had to jump the car because it has been sitting for a while not
> being driven. I get there and they have turned the car off and now it won't
> start. Battery is toast. So looking at the car is it fairly clean, interior
> in pretty good shape. Engine compartment looks clean. I ran the carfax and
> it appears to have many maintenance entry's listed. It also had an accident
> reported back in 00. I can't tell it though it was repaired properly it
> appears. Clear coat on the top surfaces is starting to go, not real real
> bad get. So I told the guy I may come back in the morning with the battery
> out of the SDL. Of course he says it runs great yada yada. My concern is
> the check engine light does not light when key is on so bulb is probably
> out, so I can't tell if it's for a check engine light if I do go back and
> start it. As I have said I have wanted one of these as a toy to mess with.
> It's a 1st year car but on the plus it has the for 400 plus hp where as the
> next year they were tuned down to about 380. Guy wants $2500 but I bet I
> can get him down. Car has 150k miles. It's on the "hood" if that tells you
> anything but has not been ghettoed out or anything. So am I crazy and
> should run away or is it a crazy good deal and I would be crazy to pass?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curt.
I'd love to see one in action at the Q.
Fred

Fred Moir.
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Diesel preferred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curt Raymond via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 29 March 2016 16:06
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

I've got 3 Tilly lanterns and I'm working on a deal for a table lamp. Maybe I 
should bring on to the Q.



Curt

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From:"Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, Max.
An hissing Tilley Lamp brings fond memories of my childhood visits to my 
grandparents in Kent UK.
My glass is half (or more!) full.

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.




From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 29 March 2016 09:47
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, I'm also attracted by the quiet operation.  I have used the Coleman 
lamps, have one in the garage, and the noise ruins it for me.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 10:55:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I presently have 6 Aladdin lamps. 4 of those are fitted with polished
>concave reflectors that are mounted on pivots so the light can be
>directed.
>The Aladdin lamps produce a nice light without noise [something I find
>quite irritating with the Coleman pressure lanterns] . They are
>reasonable
>in fuel usage for  light produced. Even with old eyes I can easily read
>a
>book or do work that requires good detail.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Question for the List - Anyone in San Gabriel Valley in California?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's not to like for $700?

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hail the List,
>
> Have a question for you all, need to know if anyone is out in the San
> Gabriel Valley area in California? Found this:
> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5513066943.html and need to know
> if anyone can take a look, give me best guess on rust / serviceability.
> Interested in this car but have no way to California to look at it.
>
> EdB
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[MBZ] Question for the List - Anyone in San Gabriel Valley in California?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Hail the List,

Have a question for you all, need to know if anyone is out in the San
Gabriel Valley area in California? Found this:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/cto/5513066943.html and need to know
if anyone can take a look, give me best guess on rust / serviceability.
Interested in this car but have no way to California to look at it.

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks ! ... nice to have the straight skinny on where they are now made.

Hope they go back to the way they were made for Aladdin for the past 60
years.. the old mantles gave excellent service, if handled correctly. and
gave excellent light.

A properly trimmed Aladdin lamp will make as much light as a 60 watt bulb,
with a focusing reflector, it's quite adequate.


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On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The new ones are made by Gasman mfg in the Philippines. I've met Sam, he's
> good people. For now they're still thorium coated so they're bright. I told
> him that the new more open weave is weaker, he says they're working on it.
>
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> From:"G Mann via Mercedes" 
> Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:31 PM
> Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps
>
> Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
> country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
> had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
> "unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.
>
> The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
> America" original production ones.
>
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> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD_Code=WKL
> ∏_Code=C6107_Code=Aladdin-Shelf-Lamps
> >
> > We have had one about like this for 30+ years and it has never had oil in
> > it.
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The new ones are made by Gasman mfg in the Philippines. I've met Sam, he's good 
people. For now they're still thorium coated so they're bright. I told him that 
the new more open weave is weaker, he says they're working on it.


Curt

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From:"G Mann via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:31 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.

The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
America" original production ones.


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>
> http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD_Code=WKL∏_Code=C6107_Code=Aladdin-Shelf-Lamps
>
> We have had one about like this for 30+ years and it has never had oil in
> it.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Suggest you stock up on the Aladdin mantles. They are now made out of the
country but a short supply of the "new old stock" still exists. Seems they
had some component which made them last that the EPA chose to render
"unobtainium" so manufacture went to somewhere in South America, I believe.

The new production mantles work well.. just don't last like the "made in
America" original production ones.


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>
> http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD_Code=WKL_Code=C6107_Code=Aladdin-Shelf-Lamps
>
> We have had one about like this for 30+ years and it has never had oil in
> it.
>
> RB
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http://www.lanternnet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD_Code=WKL_Code=C6107_Code=Aladdin-Shelf-Lamps

We have had one about like this for 30+ years and it has never had oil 
in it.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nasty blue light, cheap plastic with no soul. Fire brings people together, it's 
alive.


Curt


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From:"Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:30 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Cheap LED lights with rechargeable batteries are quiet and last a long 
time and put out some good light, no mess, no noise, no drama

--R


On 3/29/16 10:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Never got to play with a military version, just camping trips as a kid and 
> messing about with my current lamp, showing its operation to SWMBO and little 
> SWMBO.
>
> When trying to enjoy the great outdoors, less noise is better.
>
> I saw a "new" in the box Aladdin go for about fifty dollars on EBay, I should 
> have bid on it.  Plain glass base, the all brass versions look beautiful.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got 3 Tilly lanterns and I'm working on a deal for a table lamp. Maybe I 
should bring on to the Q.



Curt

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From:"Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:08 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, Max.
An hissing Tilley Lamp brings fond memories of my childhood visits to my 
grandparents in Kent UK.
My glass is half (or more!) full.

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.




From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 29 March 2016 09:47
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, I'm also attracted by the quiet operation.  I have used the Coleman 
lamps, have one in the garage, and the noise ruins it for me.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 10:55:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I presently have 6 Aladdin lamps. 4 of those are fitted with polished
>concave reflectors that are mounted on pivots so the light can be
>directed.
>The Aladdin lamps produce a nice light without noise [something I find
>quite irritating with the Coleman pressure lanterns] . They are
>reasonable
>in fuel usage for  light produced. Even with old eyes I can easily read
>a
>book or do work that requires good detail.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Grant, Max.
An hissing Tilley Lamp brings fond memories of my childhood visits to my 
grandparents in Kent UK.
My glass is half (or more!) full.

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 29 March 2016 09:47
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, I'm also attracted by the quiet operation.  I have used the Coleman 
lamps, have one in the garage, and the noise ruins it for me.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 10:55:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I presently have 6 Aladdin lamps. 4 of those are fitted with polished
>concave reflectors that are mounted on pivots so the light can be
>directed.
>The Aladdin lamps produce a nice light without noise [something I find
>quite irritating with the Coleman pressure lanterns] . They are
>reasonable
>in fuel usage for  light produced. Even with old eyes I can easily read
>a
>book or do work that requires good detail.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - One for Wilton

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, a goodun.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "clay via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:09 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - One for Wilton


A C-141 cargo plane was preparing for departure  from Thule Air Base in 
Greenland, and they were waiting for the truck to arrive to pump out the 
aircraft's sewage holding tanks.


The Aircraft Commander was in a hurry, the truck was late arriving, and 
the Airman performing the job was extremely slow in getting the tank 
pumped out.


When the commander berated the Airman for his slowness and promised 
punishment, the Airman responded, "Sir, I have no stripes, it is 20 below 
zero, I'm stationed in Thule, and I am pumping sewage out of airplanes, 
Just what are you going to do to punish me?"




swiped from Military Jokes Humor and Satire web site
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Cheap LED lights with rechargeable batteries are quiet and last a long 
time and put out some good light, no mess, no noise, no drama


Adding kerosene is much faster than a recharge cycle, and lower
tech, and these lamps can sit 'charged' and ready for immediate
use for two years without ongoing maintenance.  (As we have done.)
They also throw out a fair amount of heat, which is usually
welcome.  The power only fails here in the winter, it seems.

We have two Aladdins, both are wood/brass with a ship sketch
on the shade.  Nice decor when not in use.  Bright enough to
read by comfortably when in use, usually touted as being about
equivalent to a 60W lamp.

Yes, they do take some amount of maintenance when in use, but
it's not hard.  Use the wick trimmer once in awhile, and keep an
eye on the flame level.  (Too high and the mantle and shade soot
up.)  Fill it daily.

With a fire in the stove, the pendulum clock ticking away, and
the Aladdin, it's a nice winter's eve reading and talking in
our living room when the power goes out.  Hot drinks via a
kettle on the stove.  Fairly normal except for no TV.  (The
bathroom situation is a bit more medieval, of course.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Never got to play with a military version, just camping trips as a kid and 
messing about with my current lamp, showing its operation to SWMBO and little 
SWMBO.

When trying to enjoy the great outdoors, less noise is better.

I saw a "new" in the box Aladdin go for about fifty dollars on EBay, I should 
have bid on it.  Plain glass base, the all brass versions look beautiful.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 29, 2016 9:52:22 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I was going to say you've never heard a really loud one but with your
>military experience maybe you have. The milspec lanterns are really
>loud.
>
>
>
>Curt
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Cheap LED lights with rechargeable batteries are quiet and last a long 
time and put out some good light, no mess, no noise, no drama


--R

On 3/29/16 10:21 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Never got to play with a military version, just camping trips as a kid and 
messing about with my current lamp, showing its operation to SWMBO and little 
SWMBO.

When trying to enjoy the great outdoors, less noise is better.

I saw a "new" in the box Aladdin go for about fifty dollars on EBay, I should 
have bid on it.  Plain glass base, the all brass versions look beautiful.



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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth messing with

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Don't you mean "What difference does it make at this point?"?
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'95 E300

On March 29, 2016 9:20:13 AM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>What do the details matter?  It's "imortal'
>
>--R
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was going to say you've never heard a really loud one but with your military 
experience maybe you have. The milspec lanterns are really loud.



Curt

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From:"Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:48 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

Grant, I'm also attracted by the quiet operation.  I have used the Coleman 
lamps, have one in the garage, and the noise ruins it for me.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 10:55:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I presently have 6 Aladdin lamps. 4 of those are fitted with polished
>concave reflectors that are mounted on pivots so the light can be
>directed.
>
>I built the reflector arrangements using oval serving trays [food type]
>made of aluminum which I buffed to a high polish with buffing compound
>and
>a bench grinder mounted buffing wheel. The polished reflectors are
>mounted
>on moveable gimbals that allow left / right and in / out movement.
>
>The Aladdin lamps produce a nice light without noise [something I find
>quite irritating with the Coleman pressure lanterns] . They are
>reasonable
>in fuel usage for  light produced. Even with old eyes I can easily read
>a
>book or do work that requires good detail.
>
>For an "off the grid" home, they are about as good as it gets, IMHO
>I actively keep a watch for more since new parts are available to
>support
>them.
>
>
>No
>threats detected. www.avast.com
>
><#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
>On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> You know I got to thinking about this and thought of:
>>
>http://smile.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Kerosene-Lantern/dp/B00168PIQ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1459217239=8-1=coleman+kerosene
>> Thats a Coleman 639, burns kerosene. It'll even be happy with dyed
>> kerosene from a pump which would be hard on the wick of an Aladdin
>lamp.
>> It'll also burn jet fuel or Coleman fuel or even gasoline in a pinch.
>> A wick lamp is generally around 12 candle power, the Aladdin makes
>about
>> 40, this Coleman is 500! Super easy to use although it would have to
>be
>> preheated with alcohol, instructions here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CJZrpGCAQ
>> I've got a 639 and while they're not built to last forever like the
>> earlier ones were they're still great lanterns and with care should
>last a
>> lifetime.
>> If you get one let me know and I'll show you were to get the good
>mantles
>> that make it really bright.
>> -Curt
>>
>>      From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>>  Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 6:54 PM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps
>>
>> Hey Curt, ever see a used Aladdin lamp for sale?  Looks like a new
>lamp
>> costs about $165 and up, which is crazy money to me.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Lumens is a much more honest thing since it's directional. Coleman always took 
major liberties with candlepower. I wonder what the lumen output of the Aladdin 
is? Based on some LED headlamp outputs I'd guess the Aladdin is sub-100. 


Curt


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From:"Craig via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:19 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:13:30 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You know I got to thinking about this and thought
> of: 
> http://smile.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Kerosene-Lantern/dp/B00168PIQ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1459217239=8-1=coleman+kerosene
> Thats a Coleman 639, burns kerosene. It'll even be happy with dyed
> kerosene from a pump which would be hard on the wick of an Aladdin
> lamp. It'll also burn jet fuel or Coleman fuel or even gasoline in a
> pinch. A wick lamp is generally around 12 candle power, the Aladdin
> makes about 40, this Coleman is 500! 

The Amazon ad says 784 lumens. That's 62.4 candle power.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth messing with

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What do the details matter?  It's "imortal'

--R

On 3/29/16 9:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

It was on the 90-93 124 2.5 and also the 95 606. It was also on the rare 190d 
2.5 turbo. BTW the 90-93 and especially the 92/93 2.5 turbo 124 is about the 
best car MB has come  out with. Build quality is way better than the 210 even 
though the 210 is more modern and has some nice features. You have plenty of 
power and almost always get well over 32mpg with them, they will do much better 
than the 603 and 606 cars. They are simple to work on and just all around great 
cars. The 87s are great also and have more power but do not get as good of 
mileage and you have the 603 head problems. If you have not owned a 2.5 you are 
missing out. After this one I currently own 6 or 7 I believe. I think I need to 
sell a few of them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:


OK Donn sez:It looks like an OM603 there, but there's no air intake on the 
right front
fender. I thought the 603 was only sent to the US in a W124 in '87???

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

OM603 was in SDL 86 and 87  USA and Japan
and in the 124 in 87  only USA

Vent on fender was only in the 2.5 OM602 models  1992 &?

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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth messing with

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It was on the 90-93 124 2.5 and also the 95 606. It was also on the rare 190d 
2.5 turbo. BTW the 90-93 and especially the 92/93 2.5 turbo 124 is about the 
best car MB has come  out with. Build quality is way better than the 210 even 
though the 210 is more modern and has some nice features. You have plenty of 
power and almost always get well over 32mpg with them, they will do much better 
than the 603 and 606 cars. They are simple to work on and just all around great 
cars. The 87s are great also and have more power but do not get as good of 
mileage and you have the 603 head problems. If you have not owned a 2.5 you are 
missing out. After this one I currently own 6 or 7 I believe. I think I need to 
sell a few of them.

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On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> OK Donn sez:It looks like an OM603 there, but there's no air intake on the 
>> right front
>> fender. I thought the 603 was only sent to the US in a W124 in '87???
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> OM603 was in SDL 86 and 87  USA and Japan
> and in the 124 in 87  only USA
> 
> Vent on fender was only in the 2.5 OM602 models  1992 &?
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

And the '95 E300 Diesel with NA OM606.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 11:18:29 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Vent on fender was only in the 2.5 OM602 models  1992 &?
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Grant, I'm also attracted by the quiet operation.  I have used the Coleman 
lamps, have one in the garage, and the noise ruins it for me.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 28, 2016 10:55:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I presently have 6 Aladdin lamps. 4 of those are fitted with polished
>concave reflectors that are mounted on pivots so the light can be
>directed.
>
>I built the reflector arrangements using oval serving trays [food type]
>made of aluminum which I buffed to a high polish with buffing compound
>and
>a bench grinder mounted buffing wheel. The polished reflectors are
>mounted
>on moveable gimbals that allow left / right and in / out movement.
>
>The Aladdin lamps produce a nice light without noise [something I find
>quite irritating with the Coleman pressure lanterns] . They are
>reasonable
>in fuel usage for  light produced. Even with old eyes I can easily read
>a
>book or do work that requires good detail.
>
>For an "off the grid" home, they are about as good as it gets, IMHO
>I actively keep a watch for more since new parts are available to
>support
>them.
>
>
>No
>threats detected. www.avast.com
>
><#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
>On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> You know I got to thinking about this and thought of:
>>
>http://smile.amazon.com/Coleman-One-Mantle-Kerosene-Lantern/dp/B00168PIQ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1459217239=8-1=coleman+kerosene
>> Thats a Coleman 639, burns kerosene. It'll even be happy with dyed
>> kerosene from a pump which would be hard on the wick of an Aladdin
>lamp.
>> It'll also burn jet fuel or Coleman fuel or even gasoline in a pinch.
>> A wick lamp is generally around 12 candle power, the Aladdin makes
>about
>> 40, this Coleman is 500! Super easy to use although it would have to
>be
>> preheated with alcohol, instructions here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_CJZrpGCAQ
>> I've got a 639 and while they're not built to last forever like the
>> earlier ones were they're still great lanterns and with care should
>last a
>> lifetime.
>> If you get one let me know and I'll show you were to get the good
>mantles
>> that make it really bright.
>> -Curt
>>
>>   From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  To: Mercedes 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>>  Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 6:54 PM
>>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Aladdin oil lamps
>>
>> Hey Curt, ever see a used Aladdin lamp for sale?  Looks like a new
>lamp
>> costs about $165 and up, which is crazy money to me.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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