Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

If it don't show and it still tracks right down the road, a few minutes
with the BFH
underneath ought to be all you need to be 'good enough' on the sheet metal.

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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The dames insco is footing the bill direct.  I do not have comprehensive on the 
car, so USAA will not bother trying to make me whole.  Amica has the burden for 
the car.  USAA is going to deal with my medical needs.

I want the second opinion, so that I can see if I can just take the check and 
be on my way, or do I really need to have a shop involved to do the more in 
depth repairs that would crop up with damage to a unibody car.

clay



> On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So if you got an estimate why didn’t the adjuster just cut you a check?
> 
> That’s what my insurance company does.  Then you take the car to any of their 
> approved repair facilities, or one of your choice, or just pocket the $$ and 
> do the work yourself or live with the damage.  If the bill is more they pay 
> the difference.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd think that the greatest risk is whether the trunk seals or not - will
>> it keep the rain out and the contents dry? Do you care if it does or not?
>> Otherwise, it sounds like cosmetic damage which is optional from a
>> functionality standpoint to repair. Your choice . . .
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than
>>> just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the
>>> sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His
>>> estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will
>>> pay more.
>>> 
>>> I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not
>>> work on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.
>>> They also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.
>>> The car drives ok for now.
>>> 
>>> Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able
>>> to source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.
>>> 
>>> I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the
>>> head injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of
>>> underside damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Toss with some olive oil and throw it in he toaster oven for 20 minutes.
Yeah!  Those ignorami don't know what they're missing.

This is for okra btw, not groundhog.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> My new favorite okra preparation:  grilled. It gets a nice chewy texture
> and is not slimy. Excellent snack or veg with your meal (along with grilled
> shishito peppers). And of course in gumbo.
>
> --R
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> > On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't
> have
> > to share it with anyone.  :)
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My new favorite okra preparation:  grilled. It gets a nice chewy texture and is 
not slimy. Excellent snack or veg with your meal (along with grilled shishito 
peppers). And of course in gumbo. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't have
> to share it with anyone.  :)

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Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You should trade it in on a Kitchenaid.  In 4 years nothing has EVER passed
through through the bottom shelf.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:21:55 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Smelled faint wood smoke after I finished brushing my teeth.  Not
> > good!
> >
> > Alerted wife, we started looking for whatever was burning.  Entire
> > house passed a quick inspection.  We went outside, looked in crawl
> > space, circled house, nothing.  Back inside, SWMBO finally found it,
> > wooden spoon fell on heating element at bottom of dishwasher...
>
> Several moments of anxiety then a "Whew!"
>
> Glad it was nothing worse.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - NRA Members?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Huge mistake - expect your inbox to be jammed.  Would have been simpler to
ask who doesn't belong...

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> If anyone here is an NRA member, would you please contact me off list?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't have
to share it with anyone.  :)

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:55 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her happy.
>
> MG
>
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Okra?  It did you a favor.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
>>> the deer out.
>>> My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to
>>> medium,
>>> covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
>>> dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
 kind
 of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.
 No
 to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:32:53 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 wrote:

> i'll answer you question... colder.  55 when its 75-80 outside isn't
> very good.
> 
> Put in more until the bubbles go away.

Thanks for the info, Jaime.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:21:55 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Smelled faint wood smoke after I finished brushing my teeth.  Not
> good!  
> 
> Alerted wife, we started looking for whatever was burning.  Entire
> house passed a quick inspection.  We went outside, looked in crawl
> space, circled house, nothing.  Back inside, SWMBO finally found it,
> wooden spoon fell on heating element at bottom of dishwasher...

Several moments of anxiety then a "Whew!"

Glad it was nothing worse.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT fire scare

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Smelled faint wood smoke after I finished brushing my teeth.  Not good!  

Alerted wife, we started looking for whatever was burning.  Entire house passed 
a quick inspection.  We went outside, looked in crawl space, circled house, 
nothing.  Back inside, SWMBO finally found it, wooden spoon fell on heating 
element at bottom of dishwasher...
-- 
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Interesting, looks like the automotive stuff is still kosher, but the stuff for 
fixed systems is not.
-- 
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'95 E300

On August 24, 2017 9:49:52 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Couldn't find ES-12‎. I found ES-134a. 
>
>‎http://www.es-refrigerants.com/
>
>Oh, and I found this...
>
>‎https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/enviro-safe-refrigerants-agrees-halt-sales-unapproved-flammable-hydrocarbon-refrigerants
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:51:19 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes. I use it in my w123's. 300D and 300TD

Did you change the refrigeration oil, or leave what was in there?


Craig


> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:49:45 -0400 MG via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I use the Envirosafe Industrial R-134a replacement. I use regular 
> >> mineral oil and haven't had any problems in the 4-5 years or more 
> >> that I've been using it.
> > 
> > Are you using it in a car that's supposed to use R12?

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Couldn't find ES-12‎. I found ES-134a. 

‎http://www.es-refrigerants.com/

Oh, and I found this...

‎https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/enviro-safe-refrigerants-agrees-halt-sales-unapproved-flammable-hydrocarbon-refrigerants

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[MBZ] OT - NRA Members?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If anyone here is an NRA member, would you please contact me off list?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Does anybody have a Cadillac converter?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"It’s only a flesh wound!”

-D



> On Aug 24, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mercedes E320
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-e320/6278416005.html
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[MBZ] Does anybody have a Cadillac converter?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes E320
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s still called “ES-12”.  At least when I bought a case of it last year it 
was.

-D


> On Aug 24, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Craig inquires:
> 
>> ‎Are you using it in a car that's supposed >to use R12?
> 
> They used to call it ES-12, but I suspect the EPA got on their case about it. 
> To obey the letter of the law, an automobile using R12 refrigerant must be 
> converted to R134a, before being changed over to any other refrigerants. That 
> is why Jim Cathey is still using "test" refrigerant.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig inquires:

>‎Are you using it in a car that's supposed >to use R12?

They used to call it ES-12, but I suspect the EPA got on their case about it. 
To obey the letter of the law, an automobile using R12 refrigerant must be 
converted to R134a, before being changed over to any other refrigerants. That 
is why Jim Cathey is still using "test" refrigerant.

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

i'll answer you question... colder.  55 when its 75-80 outside isn't very
good.

Put in more until the bubbles go away.

Jaime


On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Getting ready for our trip to Texas tomorrow, I have been adding R-12 to
> the E300D's A/C system. Having added a can (Kaleb sent me one) I still
> have bubbles in the sight glass. With OAT 75 - 80 deg.F., I have a center
> air vent temperature of 55.
>
> How cold is it supposed to get?
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. Why did they put the low-side connector under the vacuum line to the
>  brake booster and other vacuum lines, with the fitting pointed up?
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep 
Her happy.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Okra?  It did you a favor.

-D


On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

I'll have to have June try that. She loves the stuff.

MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[MG via Mercedes]

Yes. I use it in my w123's. 300D and 300TD

MG

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:49:45 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

I use the Envirosafe Industrial R-134a replacement. I use regular 
mineral oil and haven't had any problems in the 4-5 years or more 
that I've been using it.


Are you using it in a car that's supposed to use R12?


Craig



Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:55:04 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

I don't use R12 but what I do use goes to 39 at those temps. 
Consider that Mercedes puts a low temp sensor in the evaporator 
to keep it from freezing up. It shuts off the Compressor at 39.

Since you don't use R12, what do you use?


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[MBZ] OT - treating hard water

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I had to replace the dead lower heater element in our electric water heater
today - 5 years old and could hardly get it out of the tank.

The sales person at the local plumbing supply house said I need a "water
conditioner", not a water softener, though he wasn't clear on the
difference, and the item he had to sell me was labeled a softener.

Do any of you have experience or know about the non-salt "water
conditioners" such as these?

1) http://ecoflow.co/pdf/Ecoflow%20Whole%20House%20Brochure.pdf
2) http://www.clearwatersystems.com/saltless-scale-reducing-system-srs/
3)
https://www.uswatersystems.com/water-filter-module-5-pulsar-limeblaster-salt-free-water-conditioner.html

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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So if you got an estimate why didn’t the adjuster just cut you a check?

That’s what my insurance company does.  Then you take the car to any of their 
approved repair facilities, or one of your choice, or just pocket the $$ and do 
the work yourself or live with the damage.  If the bill is more they pay the 
difference.

-D

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd think that the greatest risk is whether the trunk seals or not - will
> it keep the rain out and the contents dry? Do you care if it does or not?
> Otherwise, it sounds like cosmetic damage which is optional from a
> functionality standpoint to repair. Your choice . . .
> 
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than
>> just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the
>> sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His
>> estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will
>> pay more.
>> 
>> I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not
>> work on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.
>> They also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.
>> The car drives ok for now.
>> 
>> Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able
>> to source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.
>> 
>> I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the
>> head injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of
>> underside damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.
>> 
>> clay
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Okra?  It did you a favor.

-D

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
> the deer out.
> My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
> covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
> dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
>> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
>> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The official stuff is only $7/liter at the stealer.  That’s what I use in 
everything.

-D

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did anyone ever answer your first question? I bought the official MB stuff
> for the 2001 ML320 - seems it was what was recommended, though I don't
> remember where.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What power steering fluid does a 2003 W163 ML350 take?
>> The thing worked great when I test drove it Sunday.
>> Tonight, after idling it a half hour to get the air out of the cooling
>> system and adjust the charge on the A/C, I took it out for a spin and
>> there's little or no power steering at low speeds and it groans when I pull
>> on the wheel. Which is odd, because the car isn't leaking any fluids, and
>> it was working fine 3 days ago. I'll check the fluid level, and if I can
>> get any of the right stuff locally I'll change the fluid tomorrow.
>> 
>> Mitch.
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'd think that the greatest risk is whether the trunk seals or not - will
it keep the rain out and the contents dry? Do you care if it does or not?
Otherwise, it sounds like cosmetic damage which is optional from a
functionality standpoint to repair. Your choice . . .

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than
> just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the
> sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His
> estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will
> pay more.
>
> I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not
> work on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.
> They also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.
> The car drives ok for now.
>
> Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able
> to source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.
>
> I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the
> head injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of
> underside damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.
>
> clay
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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[OK Don via Mercedes]

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Did anyone ever answer your first question? I bought the official MB stuff
for the 2001 ML320 - seems it was what was recommended, though I don't
remember where.

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What power steering fluid does a 2003 W163 ML350 take?
> The thing worked great when I test drove it Sunday.
> Tonight, after idling it a half hour to get the air out of the cooling
> system and adjust the charge on the A/C, I took it out for a spin and
> there's little or no power steering at low speeds and it groans when I pull
> on the wheel. Which is odd, because the car isn't leaking any fluids, and
> it was working fine 3 days ago. I'll check the fluid level, and if I can
> get any of the right stuff locally I'll change the fluid tomorrow.
>
> Mitch.
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I don't know if the bumpers appears in 73 or 74, depends on manufacture date I 
think -- my 280SE had small ones, and I don't think MB ever put the big ones 
on, just dropped the model by the time they were required.  Mine was 
manufactured in April, I think anything manufatured after August 1st (the 
semi-official "introduction" date for cars in the US) had to be collision 
resistant.

The were definitely ugly, but the previous ones were pretty non-functional.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So what car is this?

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 5:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than 
> just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the 
> sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His 
> estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will pay 
> more.
> 
> I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not work 
> on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.  They 
> also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.  The car 
> drives ok for now.
> 
> Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able to 
> source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.  
> 
> I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the head 
> injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of underside 
> damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:49:45 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I use the Envirosafe Industrial R-134a replacement. I use regular 
> mineral oil and haven't had any problems in the 4-5 years or more 
> that I've been using it.

Are you using it in a car that's supposed to use R12?


Craig


> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:55:04 -0400 MG via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I don't use R12 but what I do use goes to 39 at those temps. 
> >> Consider that Mercedes puts a low temp sensor in the evaporator 
> >> to keep it from freezing up. It shuts off the Compressor at 39.
> > 
> > Since you don't use R12, what do you use?

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Re: [MBZ] Isco boo boo

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

And this posting is an example of the decline in mentation.  I forgot I had 
mentioned the adjuster.

clay


> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than 
> just the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the 
> sheet metal under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His 
> estimate was around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will pay 
> more.
> 
> I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not work 
> on it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.  They 
> also could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.  The car 
> drives ok for now.
> 
> Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able to 
> source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.  
> 
> I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the head 
> injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of underside 
> damage.  I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.
> 
> clay
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[MBZ] Isco boo boo

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The adjuster came out and took a look at Allen.  He found more damage than just 
the bumper.  Seems she came deep under the car and bent some of the sheet metal 
under the plate.  Shifted the gaps for the trunk as well.  His estimate was 
around $1380.  If the body shop finds more damage they will pay more.

I took it to the shop I like about an hour ago.  They said they can not work on 
it because they do not use single stage paint, just water based.  They also 
could not match colors.  They recommended a shop 15 miles away.  The car drives 
ok for now.

Do I really need to address the out of spec sheet metal?  I might be able to 
source a bumper and shock to make that stuff better.  

I am not yet able to bend over or crawl around under the car due to the head 
injury messing with balance.  I have yet to see the extent of underside damage. 
 I did not see damage to the spare wheel well from inside.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bob and Ray - one of my favorite routines.  Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Step 1: catch a groundhog.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
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> Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe
>
> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
> kind of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.
> No to mention weird taste in vegetables.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Step 1: catch a groundhog.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind of 
creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No to 
mention weird taste in vegetables.


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

*Here is a supplementary bulletin from the Office of Fluctuation Control,
Bureau of Edible Condiments, Soluble and Indigestible Fats and Glutinous
Derivatives, Washington, D.C.:*

Correction of Directive #943456201, issued a while back concerning the
fixed price of groundhog meat. In the directive above named, the quotation
on groundhog meat should read ‘ground hog meat.’

*Bob and Ray*, aka: Bob Elliott and Ray Goulding

A U.S. comedy team active from 1946 through the 1980s. Write If You Get Work
(1975).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlI-9qNsiQ

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:01 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The good thing is it's only okra. Not much good for anything but animal
> food anyway. BTW if you are serious about growing that stuff you should
> probably water it better, it looks kind of wilted.
>
> The groundhog reminds me of when I was 14 or so and wanted a 22. Both
> parents, especially Mom were against it. I wore them down and got it,
> finally. Mom always complained when I took it out to the woods to practice.
> Then came the day a groundhog attacked her garden. I was sent up to my
> room, overlooking said garden with very firm orders to shoot that thing,
> from Mom. One shot later the groundhog was done for. I never heard another
> thing about going out to practice in the woods. Funny how things work.
>
> MG
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
>> kind
>> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
>> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

The good thing is it's only okra. Not much good for anything but 
animal food anyway. BTW if you are serious about growing that 
stuff you should probably water it better, it looks kind of wilted.


The groundhog reminds me of when I was 14 or so and wanted a 22. 
Both parents, especially Mom were against it. I wore them down 
and got it, finally. Mom always complained when I took it out to 
the woods to practice. Then came the day a groundhog attacked her 
garden. I was sent up to my room, overlooking said garden with 
very firm orders to shoot that thing, from Mom. One shot later 
the groundhog was done for. I never heard another thing about 
going out to practice in the woods. Funny how things work.


MG

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.







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Re: [MBZ] Cpap night 2

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Your insurance policy ought to cost less now.

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> This time machine said 2.5 episodes. So I guess we are making progress. I
> loosened the head gear a little and did not seem to make mi nostrils sore
>
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Re: [MBZ] I get worked over at the cpap store

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably doesn't help 

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does it matter that one of my nostrils is always clogged?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:35 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:22:02 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I saw somewhere that there is talk of requiring truckers to all been
>>> screened for sleep apnea.
>> 
>> Yes, there are proposed criteria for that, and it's still being hashed
>> out -- a fair amount of resistance from some quarters about that,
>> particulary since the trucker has to pay for the test, which may not be
>> warranted.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Natural treatments for sleep apnea.

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IThanks.  I might try the saline spray at bedtime  to open up my clogged
nasal passage.

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Re: [MBZ] I get worked over at the cpap store

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Does it matter that one of my nostrils is always clogged?

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> On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:22:02 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I saw somewhere that there is talk of requiring truckers to all been
> > screened for sleep apnea.
>
> Yes, there are proposed criteria for that, and it's still being hashed
> out -- a fair amount of resistance from some quarters about that,
> particulary since the trucker has to pay for the test, which may not be
> warranted.
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Re: [MBZ] Installing hitch and trailer wiring on W163 ML

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How big is the fuel tank? That will affect the speed with which the 
needle on the guage drops.
I had an old Chevy truck with the tank in the cab. Small tank. I could 
watch the needle go down.
My truck has a big tank. I can go a long way on a tank and it takes a 
long time for the needle to get down to half.


RB

On 24/08/2017 11:12 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

IIRC, I got 15 - 18 max in the 2001 ML320 . . .

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On August 24, 2017 at 9:05 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Does this car have the nannies that sense something on a hitch and make
the ABS and stability control go bonkers?

I don't believe so.
I'll know for sure by the weekend.
It's a 2003 with ABS 4MATIC and ESP, but if it goes bonkers I can turn ESP
off.

Right now, my biggest concern is the way the fuel gauge keeps dropping.
The E320 4MATIC was rated 27mpg hwy, I could get 30 driving around the
countryside at sub-freeway speeds.
The ML350 was rated 18hwy, and the 3.7L engine turns over 2k at 55mph.
The way the gauge plummets, I'm not even sure I get 18 in rural driving.
I thought the tires might be low, they're at 44psi with green 'nitrogen
inside' valve caps.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[MG via Mercedes]

I wonder if I get the parts from one of those from the junk yard 
will I be able to make it work on my 300TD. I'll have to look 
into that.


MG

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

My S420 has both SLS and self leveling headlamps.
It's interesting to watch the light show on the garage door when I turn the lights on and they flip down then level. 
Mitch. 

On August 24, 2017 at 12:52 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
If it's just a dolly it might not affect the lights that much. I 
wish they had those auto align setups here like they are required 
to have in Europe when a trailer hitch is put on.


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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My S420 has both SLS and self leveling headlamps.
It's interesting to watch the light show on the garage door when I turn the 
lights on and they flip down then level. 
Mitch. 
> On August 24, 2017 at 12:52 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> If it's just a dolly it might not affect the lights that much. I 
> wish they had those auto align setups here like they are required 
> to have in Europe when a trailer hitch is put on.

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[MBZ] Cpap night 2

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

This time machine said 2.5 episodes. So I guess we are making progress. I 
loosened the head gear a little and did not seem to make mi nostrils sore

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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[MG via Mercedes]

If it's just a dolly it might not affect the lights that much. I 
wish they had those auto align setups here like they are required 
to have in Europe when a trailer hitch is put on.


MG

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On August 24, 2017 at 12:06 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


If you intend to two anything at night I would leave the 
headlights low. So many idiots drive around with trailers pulling 
their rear ends down and end up blinding oncoming traffic.


Good point. Maybe I'll adjust them with a car on the dolly, and then see if they're annoyingly low with an empty hitch. They're not safe above 40mph on low beam the way they are now, but the high beams work great. 


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

[MG via Mercedes]

I use the Envirosafe Industrial R-134a replacement. I use regular 
mineral oil and haven't had any problems in the 4-5 years or more 
that I've been using it.


MG

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:55:04 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

I don't use R12 but what I do use goes to 39 at those temps. 
Consider that Mercedes puts a low temp sensor in the evaporator 
to keep it from freezing up. It shuts off the Compressor at 39.


Since you don't use R12, what do you use?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

73 is last year with small bumpers.

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 73 and 74 are pretty much identical, 72 and earlier have the small bumpers.
> 
> Great cars, a good friend of mine had one when we were at IU.  Sadly hers had 
> a "kick me" sign on the back, her mother got rear-ended in in it just before 
> Jan came to school, and she got rear ended twice after that, always sitting 
> at a red traffic light.  Last one totaled it, sadly.
> 
> I drove it a few times, best driving car I've ever been in.  Manual 
> steerying, so parking was a pain, but otherwise just a blast to drive.
> 
> Unfortunately, the rust worms ate the vast majority of them, just like all 
> the other 70's German cars made with Russian steel.  My 75 Audi Fox fell 
> apart by 85, too.
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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A dolly shouldn't put much tongue weight on. The problem with most people is 
they don't know how to load a trailer and either put on no tongue weight and 
get a trailer that wags or way too much and their headlights point at the sky. 
This latter one is exacerbated when combined with a leveling kit on a pickup 
truck. Most new pickups are slightly nose down, with a leveling kit and a load 
in the bed the headlights point too high...
-Curt



On Thursday, August 24, 2017, 12:15:29 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> On August 24, 2017 at 12:06 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you intend to two anything at night I would leave the 
> headlights low. So many idiots drive around with trailers pulling 
> their rear ends down and end up blinding oncoming traffic.

Good point. Maybe I'll adjust them with a car on the dolly, and then see if 
they're annoyingly low with an empty hitch. They're not safe above 40mph on low 
beam the way they are now, but the high beams work great. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 24, 2017 at 12:06 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you intend to two anything at night I would leave the 
> headlights low. So many idiots drive around with trailers pulling 
> their rear ends down and end up blinding oncoming traffic.

Good point. Maybe I'll adjust them with a car on the dolly, and then see if 
they're annoyingly low with an empty hitch. They're not safe above 40mph on low 
beam the way they are now, but the high beams work great. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Installing hitch and trailer wiring on W163 ML

[OK Don via Mercedes]

IIRC, I got 15 - 18 max in the 2001 ML320 . . .

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On August 24, 2017 at 9:05 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Does this car have the nannies that sense something on a hitch and make
> > the ABS and stability control go bonkers?
>
> I don't believe so.
> I'll know for sure by the weekend.
> It's a 2003 with ABS 4MATIC and ESP, but if it goes bonkers I can turn ESP
> off.
>
> Right now, my biggest concern is the way the fuel gauge keeps dropping.
> The E320 4MATIC was rated 27mpg hwy, I could get 30 driving around the
> countryside at sub-freeway speeds.
> The ML350 was rated 18hwy, and the 3.7L engine turns over 2k at 55mph.
> The way the gauge plummets, I'm not even sure I get 18 in rural driving.
> I thought the tires might be low, they're at 44psi with green 'nitrogen
> inside' valve caps.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[MG via Mercedes]

If you intend to two anything at night I would leave the 
headlights low. So many idiots drive around with trailers pulling 
their rear ends down and end up blinding oncoming traffic.


MG

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
Haven't even taken the engine cover off. 
It's dark here, I just went out for a test drive before I went to bed, mainly to check headlight aim (too low), and the steering wasn't working right. 
I did a little Google-Fu and found out that the reservoir and the O-ring seal to the pump are a known problem area. I didn't know about the screen, thanks. 

It bothers me that I can't find the owner's manual. Took it out of the car Friday for some reading in bed, then was too tired to stay awake and read. 
Now I can't find it in the bedroom or anywhere else. 
I know I saw it yesterday, I think it was in my office then.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Installing hitch and trailer wiring on W163 ML

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 24, 2017 at 9:05 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does this car have the nannies that sense something on a hitch and make 
> the ABS and stability control go bonkers?

I don't believe so. 
I'll know for sure by the weekend. 
It's a 2003 with ABS 4MATIC and ESP, but if it goes bonkers I can turn ESP off. 

Right now, my biggest concern is the way the fuel gauge keeps dropping. 
The E320 4MATIC was rated 27mpg hwy, I could get 30 driving around the 
countryside at sub-freeway speeds. 
The ML350 was rated 18hwy, and the 3.7L engine turns over 2k at 55mph.
The way the gauge plummets, I'm not even sure I get 18 in rural driving. 
I thought the tires might be low, they're at 44psi with green 'nitrogen inside' 
valve caps. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

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I think he uses one of the hydrocarbon blends.

-D

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:55:04 -0400 MG via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I don't use R12 but what I do use goes to 39 at those temps. 
>> Consider that Mercedes puts a low temp sensor in the evaporator 
>> to keep it from freezing up. It shuts off the Compressor at 39.
> 
> Since you don't use R12, what do you use?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] How cold is it supposed to get?

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:55:04 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I don't use R12 but what I do use goes to 39 at those temps. 
> Consider that Mercedes puts a low temp sensor in the evaporator 
> to keep it from freezing up. It shuts off the Compressor at 39.

Since you don't use R12, what do you use?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Installing hitch and trailer wiring on W163 ML

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Does this car have the nannies that sense something on a hitch and make 
the ABS and stability control go bonkers?


--R


On 8/23/17 9:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

First, buy a Curt 56146 trailer light converter, it has its own power supply 
and does not draw power from the taillight housings, just samples taillight 
voltages to tell it what to do. This avoids trouble with the bulb warning light 
in the dash. Also, I checked the impedence on the power input, with the turn 
signals, brake lights and taillights off, it was 26kOhms, so there's no worry 
about battery drain when you aren't using the car (the rear power outlet is 
always hot).

Buy a Curt 13018 hitch (3500lb), Draw-Tite 75087 (5000lb) or Reese 44720 (8000lb). I 
hoped the Curt would not require cutting away part of the plastic bumper cover, but 
I still had to notch it to clear the gusset on the back of the hitch. (less cutting 
than the Draw-Tite in the video, which sits higher and requires you to cut a notch 
wide enough for the 2" receiver.)

Download these two videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUtq8gvv8jU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTj1GjgeEMY

I don't follow the videos exactly. When they take the bumper off, and then take 
the flat panel antenna off the bumper, I just fold the back seat and stick the 
bumper in the back with the right end hanging out to keep from pulling the wire.

I made several changes to the wiring video.
They stuck the box in the left taillight recess, then had to extend the wire to 
the right taillight. I stuck the box under the bumper cover, and the green wire 
was then long enough to reach the right taillight.

They used a self-drilling-tapping sheet metal screw to punch a hole in the body 
and secure the ground wire. I fished the white ground wire through the bumper 
plastic and secured it with the rightmost bumper plastic holding screw.
Advantage, no holes drilled in my car.

They ran a long wire and an inline fuse holder to the battery, running the hot 
wire under the body along the frame. I ran a 5' wire through the bumper to the 
right taillight housing, wiggled it through the rubber grommet for the 
taillight wiring (so the body is still waterproof behind the taillight), and 
used the same sort of blue wiring tap as was used at the taillights to tap into 
the red wire at the rear power outlet/lighter socket.
To get access to the wire, I just had to take off the cargo net hook nearest 
the outlet, peel back the rubber tailgate gasket, and pull the interior panel 
away from the body until I could get my hand in there and unplug (no locking 
clip, just unplug it) the wiring from the outlet. The wire is long enough to 
pull out the CD changer access door for easy tapping. Now the trailer light 
controller has a 20A fused power source, and there aren't any stray wires under 
the body.

My one mistake: While I was wishing they hadn't set the wire lengths to force 
you to put the unit by the left taillight (because my chosen power supply was 
by the right taillight) I didn't think of the solution until just now as I was 
writing this up. Instead of driving to town for a spool of 14ga stranded wire 
to extend the power input lead, I could have put the unit under the right end 
of the bumper, connected the tail and stoplight wires on the right side, 
shortened the green turn signal wire, and used the excess green wire to extend 
the yellow left turn signal wire over to the left taillight housing. That keeps 
the power wire short, and allows you to do the entire install with the wires 
that Curt furnished.

Pictures: The first one shows where I attached the converter box with the supplied 
double sided tape. You can also see that the white wire is taped to a 3" zip 
tie, I used that to fish the green wire over to the right side and to fish the white 
ground wire into the bumper cover as I reattached the bumper cover. The second photo 
shows how I ran the power wire parallel to the existing wiring harness and slipped 
it into the body via the existing rubber seal.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] ML steering fluid

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Fluid level, engine off, cold morning, was just on the tip of the dipstick.
So I overfilled it, started the car, and the steering works fine. 
Instead of heading off for Cleveland I'll drive it around locally this AM and 
see if anything bad happens. 

Crazy dog started going nuts when I folded the seats, now she just wants to 
guard the ML and doesn't want to come in the house. After putting about 10oz of 
juice in the AC, it's at least possible to take her to Cleveland with me.
Hard to believe the condenser was warped but not leaking after the deer strike.
Now to do something about the wheel bearings on the dolly, one of them is 
loose, the other is way loose.   
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

73 and 74 are pretty much identical, 72 and earlier have the small bumpers.

Great cars, a good friend of mine had one when we were at IU.  Sadly hers had a 
"kick me" sign on the back, her mother got rear-ended in in it just before Jan 
came to school, and she got rear ended twice after that, always sitting at a 
red traffic light.  Last one totaled it, sadly.

I drove it a few times, best driving car I've ever been in.  Manual steerying, 
so parking was a pain, but otherwise just a blast to drive.

Unfortunately, the rust worms ate the vast majority of them, just like all the 
other 70's German cars made with Russian steel.  My 75 Audi Fox fell apart by 
85, too.
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Re: [MBZ] They gonna cut me a cheque

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Some might say...

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 3:02 AM, redghost--- via Mercedes  
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> . I am keeping an eye out for delayed signs of mental deterioration.

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[MBZ] They gonna cut me a cheque

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

The insco guys are being all accommodating. Allen got a look over by their 
adjuster and he thinks the car is worth just enough that it does not need to be 
totaled. I am going to get a payment and get to take the car to a body shoppe 
to get the bumper replaced, and have somebody hammer out the mess the dame made 
of the underside of my trunk. I feel sort of sorry for the body boys who have 
to match my rattle can bumper paint (though they did include the clear coat, 
which I did apply from a can) and also have to get the splotchy color I 
sprayed. They want to put clear on that, but the rest of the car is single 
stage and I have held off on clear while I contemplate if I do a respray so it 
looks less mangy. 

Medico gave me a look over Tuesday. He was in agreement that I would probably 
not do the physio if he set it up, and that it really does little to help with 
this stuff, as it takes about the same time to heal either way. The attention 
does make your tummy feel good though. Just jacks up the medical payout, and I 
would not be seeing any of it. I did get a solid bonk on the noggin. Notes I 
took while awaiting the doctor visit confirmed his assessment that there was a 
concussion. I am keeping an eye out for delayed signs of mental deterioration. 

clay 
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[MBZ] Natural treatments for sleep apnea.

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Natural treatments for sleep apnea.

https://www.reference.com/health/natural-treatments-sleep-apnea-2b9d6c5fd3a40903?aq=Sleep+Apnea+Symptoms+Treatment=cdpArticles

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