Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Let's find out.  You never know until you try.
Scott

> -Original Message-
> From:  Curley McLain via Mercedes
> 
> Herr Mann,
> 
> You forgot one detail:  Laws of the US of A don't apply to those who subscribe
> to a certain party, denoted by the jackass.  (By decree of
> themselves)
> 


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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 20:31:39 -0800 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well... now, that's a thought The law is very specific in it's
> punishment wording.. seems a case could be made from the present
> actions by those in control of the cities, counties, and in the case of
> California... the state

Ipso facto, isn't it?


> Moonbeam Brown would look all stylish in Prison Orange and leg irons...

As someone commented on the global warming list I'm on, "Moonbeam is
scientific evidence that long term abuse of LSD does have psychological
consequences."


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The President "could" impose Martial Law upon every sanctuary city, county,
state & municipality and arrest all officials & employees in them, for
violating Federal Law shown in detail here. https://www.law.cornell.
edu/uscode/text/8/1324


Sure to cause great wailing and gnashing of teeth among the privileged and
self appointed.


On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Nice thought!  Where do we sign up to help?
>
> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> December 11, 2017 at 10:31 PM
>> Well... now, that's a thought The law is very specific in it's
>> punishment wording.. seems a case could be made from the present actions
>> by
>> those in control of the cities, counties, and in the case of California...
>> the state Moonbeam Brown would look all stylish in Prison Orange and
>> leg irons...
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice thought!  Where do we sign up to help?


G Mann via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 10:31 PM
Well... now, that's a thought The law is very specific in it's
punishment wording.. seems a case could be made from the present 
actions by

those in control of the cities, counties, and in the case of California...
the state Moonbeam Brown would look all stylish in Prison Orange and
leg irons...



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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well... now, that's a thought The law is very specific in it's
punishment wording.. seems a case could be made from the present actions by
those in control of the cities, counties, and in the case of California...
the state Moonbeam Brown would look all stylish in Prison Orange and
leg irons...

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:55:54 -0800 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Current Federal law:
> > https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
>
> So, what if Federal Marshalls went into a Sanctuary City and started
> arresting people from the Mayor on down?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

there'd be incessant shrieking, accompanied by endless lawsuits against 
those who had the gall to try to arrest those of the jackass 
persuasion.  (See my prior post about applicability of law to those of 
the jackass persuasion)



Craig via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 10:28 PM
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:55:54 -0800 G Mann via Mercedes

So, what if Federal Marshalls went into a Sanctuary City and started
arresting people from the Mayor on down?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:55:54 -0800 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Current Federal law:
> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324
> 
> 
> 
> 

So, what if Federal Marshalls went into a Sanctuary City and started
arresting people from the Mayor on down?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Ayyyhyup

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Herr Mann,
>
> You forgot one detail:  Laws of the US of A don't apply to those who
> subscribe to a certain party, denoted by the jackass.  (By decree of
> themselves)
>
> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> December 11, 2017 at 9:55 PM
>> Current Federal law:
>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Herr Mann,

You forgot one detail:  Laws of the US of A don't apply to those who 
subscribe to a certain party, denoted by the jackass.  (By decree of 
themselves)



G Mann via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 9:55 PM
Current Federal law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324






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Re: [MBZ] OT no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

and your point is?


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 9:23 PM
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

THat'd be a good start, like 20,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean.

I suspect his lily livered compatriots will never pass it.  They will, 
however, continue to be worthless liars who ignore the people who they 
were elected to represent.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 9:01 PM
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/rep-rokita-proposes-bill-threatening-jail-time-1-million-fine-sanctuary-city-leaders/919546001/



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Re: [MBZ] ranges

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If either had been available when I was in HS, I'd 'a' been all over 
either or both.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 6:10 PM

.22 rifle is a growing varsity sport in the US, after a few decades 
when it had just about died out.


But it's still virtually impossible to have firearms in your locker or 
even in the parking lot without being made into a felon. I remember 
one kid whose mom saw a safety video about carrying a seatbelt cutter 
in the car, she put knives in the consoles of all the family cars and 
he got a felony charge of having a weapon in a parking lot.


High school trapshooting is more popular than rifle competition, I'm 
wondering how long it will take to surpass tennis.


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
December 11, 2017 at 4:34 PM
I presume slanted to reflect all rounds down into the ground?

-
Max
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Rick O'Shea!   Yes
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Current Federal law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324





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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I got this one  twice


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 10, 2017 at 8:50 PM
Strangely I got my last post doubled...

Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OTFun - Millenials

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well done, thank you!

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> https://biggeekdad.com/2017/12/hiring-a-millennial/
>
> https://youtu.be/NEsUudZvntE
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Love the wheels.  Could bake a cake in 'em.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:03 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

> > Buggered wrote:
>
> > ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!
>
> He won't want it.  It's one of the better  pre-1985 models and he
> prefers the cluttered '85s.
>
> I'd like it.  I don't think I can afford $4k right now.  It is
> close enough, though...
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Re: [MBZ] OT no Ingles

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Velour is oogy.  Absorbs cigarette smoke and can't be decontaminated.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> I think you are right Jaime. Looks great.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Dec 11, 2017 8:53 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Forget about the rods!
> >
> > Buy it, drive it, enjoy... (maintain, repair, repeat).
> >
> > I'd love to own that car.  Velour is awesome.
> >
> > Jaime
> > -rod bender driver.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Conroe is home to the Cajun Catfish Festival and up near Cut n' Shoot
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/11/17 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Rare options.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> > 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Is this,a potential rodbender?
> > 
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> > 
> >  On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Buggered wrote:

> ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!

He won't want it.  It's one of the better  pre-1985 models and he
prefers the cluttered '85s.

I'd like it.  I don't think I can afford $4k right now.  It is
close enough, though...

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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

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https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/04/rep-rokita-proposes-bill-threatening-jail-time-1-million-fine-sanctuary-city-leaders/919546001/

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

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ANDREW!!! Needs that!!!

--R
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> On Dec 11, 2017, at 9:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!
> 
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-turbo-diesel/6421240936.html
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

On the surface,sounds,good.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-
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[MBZ] Wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

AWESOME!! Mercedes turbo-diesel wagon!!

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/awesome-mercedes-turbo-diesel/6421240936.html


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Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I think you are right Jaime. Looks great.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Dec 11, 2017 8:53 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Forget about the rods!
>
> Buy it, drive it, enjoy... (maintain, repair, repeat).
>
> I'd love to own that car.  Velour is awesome.
>
> Jaime
> -rod bender driver.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Conroe is home to the Cajun Catfish Festival and up near Cut n' Shoot
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/11/17 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Rare options.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Is this,a potential rodbender?
> 
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
>  On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> >
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel
> >
> > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-
> >
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> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Forget about the rods!

Buy it, drive it, enjoy... (maintain, repair, repeat).

I'd love to own that car.  Velour is awesome.

Jaime
-rod bender driver.


On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Conroe is home to the Cajun Catfish Festival and up near Cut n' Shoot
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 12/11/17 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Rare options.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles 

>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is this,a potential rodbender?

 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI

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>>>
 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel
>
> https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-
>
 350sdl-turbo/6420105471.html
>>>

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Re: [MBZ] ranges

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I think I shared this before but here it is again. In high school the coach/gym 
teacher had a daughter who was in my class. She was kinda cute. He was this 
polish guy who was built like a fire plug and was about as tough. He took NO 
sh..tuff. 

His daughter shot on the rifle team. They had a range under the stand in the 
gym. Turns out she was really good and won state title. 

So that family was a twofer — Daddy could seriously kick your ass and the 
daughter could shoot your ass. I don’t think she ever had a date with any guy 
in the school. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We have several sporting clay teams at our local high schools that both 
> practice and compete at the range I belong to.  I shot on a competitive air 
> rifle team in high school, too.  Nothing like that now that I know of, at 
> least not around here.
> 
> I think shooting sports for youngsters is a great idea.  Like any sport, it 
> takes commitment, practice, and in the case of shooting sports, a serious 
> commitment to safety and education.  These are not kids who will be out on 
> the street shooting people.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On December 11, 2017 at 6:00 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Believe it or not, when I was in high school, there was a rifle range in 
>>> the basement under the gym and one could belong to a club that used it. 
>> 
>> .22 rifle is a growing varsity sport in the US, after a few decades when it 
>> had just about died out. 
>> 
>> But it's still virtually impossible to have firearms in your locker or even 
>> in the parking lot without being made into a felon. I remember one kid whose 
>> mom saw a safety video about carrying a seatbelt cutter in the car, she put 
>> knives in the consoles of all the family cars and he got a felony charge of 
>> having a weapon in a parking lot. 
>> 
>> High school trapshooting is more popular than rifle competition, I'm 
>> wondering how long it will take to surpass tennis. 
>> 
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[MBZ] OTFun - Millenials

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

https://biggeekdad.com/2017/12/hiring-a-millennial/

https://youtu.be/NEsUudZvntE

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Re: [MBZ] ranges

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have several sporting clay teams at our local high schools that both 
practice and compete at the range I belong to.  I shot on a competitive air 
rifle team in high school, too.  Nothing like that now that I know of, at least 
not around here.

I think shooting sports for youngsters is a great idea.  Like any sport, it 
takes commitment, practice, and in the case of shooting sports, a serious 
commitment to safety and education.  These are not kids who will be out on the 
street shooting people.

-D

 
> On Dec 11, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On December 11, 2017 at 6:00 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Believe it or not, when I was in high school, there was a rifle range in 
>> the basement under the gym and one could belong to a club that used it. 
> 
> .22 rifle is a growing varsity sport in the US, after a few decades when it 
> had just about died out. 
> 
> But it's still virtually impossible to have firearms in your locker or even 
> in the parking lot without being made into a felon. I remember one kid whose 
> mom saw a safety video about carrying a seatbelt cutter in the car, she put 
> knives in the consoles of all the family cars and he got a felony charge of 
> having a weapon in a parking lot. 
> 
> High school trapshooting is more popular than rifle competition, I'm 
> wondering how long it will take to surpass tennis. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] ranges

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 11, 2017 at 6:00 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Believe it or not, when I was in high school, there was a rifle range in 
> the basement under the gym and one could belong to a club that used it. 

.22 rifle is a growing varsity sport in the US, after a few decades when it had 
just about died out. 

But it's still virtually impossible to have firearms in your locker or even in 
the parking lot without being made into a felon. I remember one kid whose mom 
saw a safety video about carrying a seatbelt cutter in the car, she put knives 
in the consoles of all the family cars and he got a felony charge of having a 
weapon in a parking lot. 

High school trapshooting is more popular than rifle competition, I'm wondering 
how long it will take to surpass tennis. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I plan to just screw another piece of plywood over the front one when it's
too torn up. Plans are changing with the report of sandbags, and the
drawing of the proper way to stack them though.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:20 PM, as.thompson--- via Mercedes <
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>
> On Dec 11, 2017, Craig wrote:
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today
>
> > OK, scrap the FMJ and just use softpoints. Remember there will be 14 to
> > 21" of sand between the sheets of plywood . . .
>
> Maybe I should go to the local indoor range and ask them what they have.
> I stopped by a while back and asked what calibers they allowed. They said
> anything up to an elephant gun ...
>
> Craig
>
> So what happens to the plywood after 100 rounds through the 10 ring?
> My local range uses a slanted reinforced concrete back drop and allows all
> calibers and all bullet types. I often fire my M-4 there when I change
> sights, etc. and have seen others firing .308s, etc.
> Regards,
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[MBZ] ranges

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Believe it or not, when I was in high school, there was a rifle range in 
the basement under the gym and one could belong to a club that used it. 
I think probably the Scouts used it too. Cannot imagine that now. If one 
took a rifle to school and put it in their locker, they would call the 
swat team. Amazing how things can change in only a generation or a bit 
more. My 2 sons are beyond high school but my only grand daughter is 
under a year in age so really only one generation since I was in that 
school.


The one end wall of the room was full of 4 X 4's stacked solidly with 
the end facing outward. I don't know how deep they were. If I ever knew, 
I have forgotten. I don't think they allowed anything except 22 and 
maybe pellet guns. This is in Canada so no hand guns.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

My outdoor range has a 30 foot high berm that ie easily 30-40 feet deep at the 
base.  The BAR that was being fired yesterday just kicked up piles of dirt when 
it hit the berm.

-D


> On Dec 11, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> I presume slanted to reflect all rounds down into the ground?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:20 PM, as.thompson--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My local range uses a slanted reinforced concrete back drop and allows all
>> calibers and all bullet types. I often fire my M-4 there when I change
>> sights, etc. and have seen others firing .308s, etc.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I presume slanted to reflect all rounds down into the ground?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My local range uses a slanted reinforced concrete back drop and allows all
> calibers and all bullet types. I often fire my M-4 there when I change
> sights, etc. and have seen others firing .308s, etc.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W111 250 SEC Didn't sell for $22k

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It goes in cycles. A Facebook group I'm on recently had a discussion of the 
Springfield "Trapdoor" rifles which when I was a lad could be had for cheap 
that are now getting into the $700-$800 range for decent examples. The ones 
with a story "Owned rifles" can go for very big money.
Remember these are pre-1900 rifles, they were 100 years old or more when I was 
born...
-Curt
 

On Monday, December 11, 2017, 5:08:03 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Just testing the waters? I would not pay what was bid. Nice car but 
unless I had a collection of old cars like Jay Leno, I cannot imagine 
what I would do with it.
I would suggest that anyone who thinks he has a really valuable antique 
should sell now for what he can get. I predict that these cars will 
become worth much less with time. We like them but our children  could 
care less about most of the antique stuff we have collected. Auctions 
can hardly give away grandma's prize possessions that commanded big 
dollars only a few years back.

RB

On 11/12/2017 3:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> And the the seller is dealer who didn’t communicate during the auction.  That 
> tells me they had unrealistic expectations for the outcome and didn’t really 
> care if it sold or not.  Sort of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Dec 11, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Sad result for a beautiful car.  Lack of a sunroof and v8 engine probably
>> depressed the value.
>>
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-250se-coupe/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-12-11
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

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On Dec 11, 2017, Craig wrote:
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

> OK, scrap the FMJ and just use softpoints. Remember there will be 14 to
> 21" of sand between the sheets of plywood . . .

Maybe I should go to the local indoor range and ask them what they have.
I stopped by a while back and asked what calibers they allowed. They said
anything up to an elephant gun ...

Craig

So what happens to the plywood after 100 rounds through the 10 ring?
My local range uses a slanted reinforced concrete back drop and allows all 
calibers and all bullet types. I often fire my M-4 there when I change sights, 
etc. and have seen others firing .308s, etc.
Regards,
Addison
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Re: [MBZ] W111 250 SEC Didn't sell for $22k

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Just testing the waters? I would not pay what was bid. Nice car but 
unless I had a collection of old cars like Jay Leno, I cannot imagine 
what I would do with it.
I would suggest that anyone who thinks he has a really valuable antique 
should sell now for what he can get. I predict that these cars will 
become worth much less with time. We like them but our children  could 
care less about most of the antique stuff we have collected. Auctions 
can hardly give away grandma's prize possessions that commanded big 
dollars only a few years back.


RB

On 11/12/2017 3:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And the the seller is dealer who didn’t communicate during the auction.  That 
tells me they had unrealistic expectations for the outcome and didn’t really 
care if it sold or not.  Sort of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

-D



On Dec 11, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Sad result for a beautiful car.  Lack of a sunroof and v8 engine probably
depressed the value.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-250se-coupe/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-12-11
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Re: [MBZ] W111 250 SEC Didn't sell for $22k

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And the the seller is dealer who didn’t communicate during the auction.  That 
tells me they had unrealistic expectations for the outcome and didn’t really 
care if it sold or not.  Sort of defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

-D


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> 
> Sad result for a beautiful car.  Lack of a sunroof and v8 engine probably
> depressed the value.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-250se-coupe/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-12-11
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

little gear/wheel icon in upper right side of mail page.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I meant my GMail settings.  How do I get there?
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew - yes if you mean the settings for your Okiebenz account for the
> > Mercedes List.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is this under "settings"?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon <
> dillonm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > OK, finally am trying to fix this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.
> > > > > > "Receive my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid
> duplicates"
> > > > > > changed from N to Y.
> > > >
> > > > I logged in and looked at my list options. I didn't change anything,
> > but
> > > > clicked "Save changes" anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I'll see what this does, if anything.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

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I meant my GMail settings.  How do I get there?

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> Andrew - yes if you mean the settings for your Okiebenz account for the
> Mercedes List.
>
> -
> Max
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>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this under "settings"?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > OK, finally am trying to fix this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.
> > > > > "Receive my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates"
> > > > > changed from N to Y.
> > >
> > > I logged in and looked at my list options. I didn't change anything,
> but
> > > clicked "Save changes" anyway.
> > >
> > > I'll see what this does, if anything.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew - yes if you mean the settings for your Okiebenz account for the
Mercedes List.

-
Max
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Is this under "settings"?
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?
> >
> > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, finally am trying to fix this.
> > > >
> > > > Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.
> > > > "Receive my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates"
> > > > changed from N to Y.
> >
> > I logged in and looked at my list options. I didn't change anything, but
> > clicked "Save changes" anyway.
> >
> > I'll see what this does, if anything.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is this under "settings"?

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?
>
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK, finally am trying to fix this.
> > >
> > > Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.
> > > "Receive my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates"
> > > changed from N to Y.
>
> I logged in and looked at my list options. I didn't change anything, but
> clicked "Save changes" anyway.
>
> I'll see what this does, if anything.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:57:47 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?

> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon 
> wrote:
> 
> > OK, finally am trying to fix this.
> >
> > Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.
> > "Receive my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates"
> > changed from N to Y.

I logged in and looked at my list options. I didn't change anything, but
clicked "Save changes" anyway.

I'll see what this does, if anything.


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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 02:50:27 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Strangely I got my last post doubled...

I still see your posts doubled, but using Sylpheed's "Delete duplicated
messages" tool doesn't delete the duplicates. Something not visible must
be different between the double posts ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:29:42 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK, scrap the FMJ and just use softpoints. Remember there will be 14 to
> 21" of sand between the sheets of plywood . . .

Maybe I should go to the local indoor range and ask them what they have.
I stopped by a while back and asked what calibers they allowed. They said
anything up to an elephant gun ...


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[MBZ] W111 250 SEC Didn't sell for $22k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sad result for a beautiful car.  Lack of a sunroof and v8 engine probably
depressed the value.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-250se-coupe/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-12-11
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And in the next flood you are also covered!

--FT


On 12/11/17 1:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Why not use a bank of sand bags... add as many layers as you need or wish..
bags contain the sand [more or less until they get "shot out" then you
just rebag the sand, and you are back in business

It worked in Vietnam absorbing enemy fire. Should work for you.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Wow, thats certainly substantial research.
He's using a 7.62x39 which is a much smaller, less powerful round than a
30.06 although I suppose you could load down. I'm not saying traps couldn't
be made its just difficult.
Where are you doing this? Not somewhere around the airfield I'd guess.
-Curt


 On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:03:54 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  It seems that someone wrote a masters thesis on the subject:
http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4759=etd

The bottom line being that 7.62 rounds penetrate about 10 inches into sand,
so I'll build traps with at least 15 inches of sand.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nope I saw it...
Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from

an

elevated position?
-Curt


On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  > > > OK Don wrote:

I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.

Curt wrote:

Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...

Mitch wrote:

I'm with Curt.
I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
ply at 2700 fps.

I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
each sheet of plywood.

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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[OK Don via Mercedes]

After reading this thesis, that is what we will do . . .

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Why not use a bank of sand bags... add as many layers as you need or wish..
> bags contain the sand [more or less until they get "shot out" then you
> just rebag the sand, and you are back in business
>
> It worked in Vietnam absorbing enemy fire. Should work for you.
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow, thats certainly substantial research.
> > He's using a 7.62x39 which is a much smaller, less powerful round than a
> > 30.06 although I suppose you could load down. I'm not saying traps
> couldn't
> > be made its just difficult.
> > Where are you doing this? Not somewhere around the airfield I'd guess.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:03:54 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  It seems that someone wrote a masters thesis on the subject:
> > http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=
> 4759=etd
> >
> > The bottom line being that 7.62 rounds penetrate about 10 inches into
> sand,
> > so I'll build traps with at least 15 inches of sand.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Nope I saw it...
> > > Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from
> > an
> > > elevated position?
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >
> > >On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > > > OK Don wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
> > > > > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
> > > > > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.
> > >
> > > > > Curt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
> > > > > have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...
> > >
> > > > Mitch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm with Curt.
> > > > I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
> > > > through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
> > > > 1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
> > > > ply at 2700 fps.
> > >
> > > I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
> > > each sheet of plywood.
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> of
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> who
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Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Conroe is home to the Cajun Catfish Festival and up near Cut n' Shoot

--FT


On 12/11/17 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Rare options.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles 

wrote:

Is this,a potential rodbender?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-

350sdl-turbo/6420105471.html


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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I've been receiving my posts in a separate email for several days now.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm still using Yahoo mail. I like having a web client, dislike the gmail
> client specifically and have so much old mail its hard to switch over...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2017, 10:12:47 AM EST, arche...@embarqmail.com
>  wrote:
>
>  In case anyone on the list didn't know, Verizon bought Yahoo, or parts of
> Yahoo, earlier this year; and for the past month or so Yahoogroups has been
> a mess, and still is.
> I'm wondering if those who are having problems on this list are using any
> products of Verizon or Yahoo, or just have them on their cellphones or
> computers?
> Gerry
> ~~~
> > Strangely I got my last post doubled...
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: [MBZ] RIP My 91 300D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My sympathies, Larry.  You are what they call in the trade "idiopathic".

id·i·o·path·ic
[ˌidēəˈpaTHik]
ADJECTIVE
medicine

   1. medicine
   relating to or denoting any disease or condition that arises
   spontaneously or for which the cause is unknown.


On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> That's rough, Larry! BTW how much calcium and vitamin D are you taking?
> Have you had tests for osteoporosis? Are you going to private
> physicians/hospitals or medical school connected physicians/hospitals?
> Gerry
> ~~
> Larry Turner via Mercedes  wrote:
> > They said I am allergic to the bone cement they use which caused the 1st
> > two to loosen and break, #3 was a temp spacer used while we did the
> > allergy tests and #4 lasted a little over 3 years.  #5 is in now.  After
> > two weeks they did x-rays which showed the upper stem of the prosthesis
> > had moved upward into my femur.  We stopped PT to give the bone time to
> > stabilize around the stem which it did after 6 weeks, then I started PT
> > with a vengeance (as much a was safe).  I am now walking with a walker.
> > Hopefully I will walk with a cane someday...
> > Everyday is an adventure!
> > LarryT
> > On 12/10/2017 5:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > > How is that possible?  One knee X3?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Correct. It's where the rear suspension attaches to the body. The
> > > shop said they could separate the body from the suspension using a
> > > pry bar - it was completely detached on the passenger side.
> > >
> > > Max gave me some great suggestions for getting it out of my
> > > driveway.   Not sure what I'll be doing yet.  I've had 3 complete
> > > knee replacements and am recovering from the 4th which wasn't
> > > going well at first but seems to be healing OK now.   So parting
> > > it out will make things difficult although it would keep me active
> ;-)
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/7/2017 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > > My guess is the body of the car where something (LCA?)
> > > attaches.  No reason
> > > to junk a car just because a replaceable part is rusty.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Why not use a bank of sand bags... add as many layers as you need or wish..
bags contain the sand [more or less until they get "shot out" then you
just rebag the sand, and you are back in business

It worked in Vietnam absorbing enemy fire. Should work for you.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow, thats certainly substantial research.
> He's using a 7.62x39 which is a much smaller, less powerful round than a
> 30.06 although I suppose you could load down. I'm not saying traps couldn't
> be made its just difficult.
> Where are you doing this? Not somewhere around the airfield I'd guess.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:03:54 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  It seems that someone wrote a masters thesis on the subject:
> http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4759=etd
>
> The bottom line being that 7.62 rounds penetrate about 10 inches into sand,
> so I'll build traps with at least 15 inches of sand.
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Nope I saw it...
> > Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from
> an
> > elevated position?
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  > > > OK Don wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
> > > > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
> > > > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.
> >
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
> > > > have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...
> >
> > > Mitch wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm with Curt.
> > > I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
> > > through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
> > > 1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
> > > ply at 2700 fps.
> >
> > I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
> > each sheet of plywood.
> >
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
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> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] Here is something you don’t see everyday

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rare options.

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> Yes, with velour interior and rear sun shade
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 10, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > Is this,a potential rodbender?
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Dec 10, 2017 8:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Turbo Diesel
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Wow, thats certainly substantial research.
He's using a 7.62x39 which is a much smaller, less powerful round than a 30.06 
although I suppose you could load down. I'm not saying traps couldn't be made 
its just difficult.
Where are you doing this? Not somewhere around the airfield I'd guess.
-Curt
 

On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:03:54 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 It seems that someone wrote a masters thesis on the subject:
http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4759=etd

The bottom line being that 7.62 rounds penetrate about 10 inches into sand,
so I'll build traps with at least 15 inches of sand.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nope I saw it...
> Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from an
> elevated position?
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  > > > OK Don wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
> > > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
> > > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.
>
> > > Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
> > > have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...
>
> > Mitch wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Curt.
> > I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
> > through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
> > 1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
> > ply at 2700 fps.
>
> I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
> each sheet of plywood.
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm still using Yahoo mail. I like having a web client, dislike the gmail 
client specifically and have so much old mail its hard to switch over...
-Curt
 

On Monday, December 11, 2017, 10:12:47 AM EST, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 In case anyone on the list didn't know, Verizon bought Yahoo, or parts of 
Yahoo, earlier this year; and for the past month or so Yahoogroups has been a 
mess, and still is. 
I'm wondering if those who are having problems on this list are using any 
products of Verizon or Yahoo, or just have them on their cellphones or 
computers?
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> Strangely I got my last post doubled...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It seems that someone wrote a masters thesis on the subject:
http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4759=etd

The bottom line being that 7.62 rounds penetrate about 10 inches into sand,
so I'll build traps with at least 15 inches of sand.

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> Nope I saw it...
> Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from an
> elevated position?
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  > > > OK Don wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
> > > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
> > > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.
>
> > > Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
> > > have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...
>
> > Mitch wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Curt.
> > I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
> > through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
> > 1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
> > ply at 2700 fps.
>
> I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
> each sheet of plywood.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Is Amazon slow for everybody?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:06:43 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On December 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote: About the same time,  I ordered some
> > other stuff that was never delivered.   no refunds.   Jeffturd sez
> > "tough"
> 
> I bought from scam sellers twice last winter. 
> Both times, I had to 'contact the seller' to give them a chance to
> cure, then after waiting for the scammer to ignore me, I asked for and
> received a refund from Amazon.

That was my experience with an Amazon scam seller, too. It did take a
while to go through the process.


> The only good news to that is the dog cage I desperately needed when I
> started working 6 long days a week, Amazon lowered their price to match
> the scammer who ripped me off, and I took a Prime Trial for 2 day
> shipping. They probably spent $15-20 shipping me a $80 cage that they
> sold me for $30.

I had to search quite a while to find a substitute item (a thermostatic
mixing valve) and then order it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] RIP My 91 300D

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That's rough, Larry! BTW how much calcium and vitamin D are you taking?
Have you had tests for osteoporosis? Are you going to private 
physicians/hospitals or medical school connected physicians/hospitals?
Gerry
~~
Larry Turner via Mercedes  wrote:
> They said I am allergic to the bone cement they use which caused the 1st 
> two to loosen and break, #3 was a temp spacer used while we did the 
> allergy tests and #4 lasted a little over 3 years.  #5 is in now.  After 
> two weeks they did x-rays which showed the upper stem of the prosthesis 
> had moved upward into my femur.  We stopped PT to give the bone time to 
> stabilize around the stem which it did after 6 weeks, then I started PT 
> with a vengeance (as much a was safe).  I am now walking with a walker.  
> Hopefully I will walk with a cane someday...
> Everyday is an adventure!
> LarryT
> On 12/10/2017 5:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > How is that possible?  One knee X3?
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Correct. It's where the rear suspension attaches to the body. The
> > shop said they could separate the body from the suspension using a
> > pry bar - it was completely detached on the passenger side.
> >
> > Max gave me some great suggestions for getting it out of my
> > driveway.   Not sure what I'll be doing yet.  I've had 3 complete
> > knee replacements and am recovering from the 4th which wasn't
> > going well at first but seems to be healing OK now.   So parting
> > it out will make things difficult although it would keep me active ;-)
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/7/2017 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > My guess is the body of the car where something (LCA?)
> > attaches.  No reason
> > to junk a car just because a replaceable part is rusty.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan and Manfred.  I'm fixed for now.

Gerry - I'm using Gmail web client now, and then using an android client on
my smart phone at other times.  No yahoo / verizon involvement.

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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[MG via Mercedes]

Not right now. I only saw one double post from you anyway. Curt 
is always doing double posts, somehow.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?

-
Max
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:


OK, finally am trying to fix this.

Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.  "Receive
my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates" changed from N to
Y.

Test test test?

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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

In case anyone on the list didn't know, Verizon bought Yahoo, or parts of 
Yahoo, earlier this year; and for the past month or so Yahoogroups has been a 
mess, and still is. 
I'm wondering if those who are having problems on this list are using any 
products of Verizon or Yahoo, or just have them on their cellphones or 
computers?
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Nah, I failed Physics.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Physics
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 12/4/17 3:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Genius.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
>>> micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
>>> smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
>>> still. Then slowly work it into the seat.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gang,
  The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had
 finally
 broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber
 split.
 Seems to be a pretty tight fit,

  Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
 break any more...

 Thanks!
 LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT- Fun With Guns Today

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nope I saw it...
Maybe park a dumpster full of sand behind it? Dig a hole and shoot from an 
elevated position?
-Curt
 

On Monday, December 11, 2017, 1:46:22 AM EST, fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > > > OK Don wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm thinking of building a trap consisting of several (5 to
> > > 7) sheets of 3/4" plywood, separated by 2X4's on the long
> > > edge, with the space between the sheets filled with sand.

> > Curt wrote:
> > 
> > Back the "trap" with about 100 cubic yards of sand and you'll
> > have something. FMJ wants to go and keep going...

> Mitch wrote:
> 
> I'm with Curt. 
> I've got .177 air rifles that will punch a nice clean hole
> through 3/4" ply with 7 grain soft lead wadcutter pellets at
> 1000fps or so. 160gr FMJ will sail through dozens of sheets of
> ply at 2700 fps. 

I think you both missed his plan to put 3.5 inches of sand between
each sheet of plywood.

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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

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Not that I can see.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
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>> OK, finally am trying to fix this.
>> 
>> Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.  "Receive
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>> Y.
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>> Test test test?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

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Looks like that worked!  Anyone think I'm double posting?

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> OK, finally am trying to fix this.
>
> Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.  "Receive
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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

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OK, finally am trying to fix this.

Step (1): change my subscription settings on Okiebenz listserv.  "Receive
my own posts" changed from Y to N, and "Avoid duplicates" changed from N to
Y.

Test test test?

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Re: [MBZ] Email threading

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Echo issue is getting worse.  My reply to Jim returned three times, when
before I would get no echo at all.

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