Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

On my 124 cars, it is tight compared to my 123.190.  The speedometer cable is 
responsible.
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Re: [MBZ] 300sel 4.5

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The rust is eve so slightly terrifying.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> First pictures look nice.  Last pictures look like it needs to stay at
> McPherson College a while longer.
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> February 12, 2018 at 8:42 PM
>> 1972 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 4.5 L
>>
>> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1972-mercedes-benz-300-
>> sel-45/6494138945.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300sel 4.5

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ever

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> The rust is eve so slightly terrifying.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> First pictures look nice.  Last pictures look like it needs to stay at
>> McPherson College a while longer.
>>
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> February 12, 2018 at 8:42 PM
>>> 1972 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 4.5 L
>>>
>>> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1972-mercedes-benz-300-
>>> sel-45/6494138945.html
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Go Martha, go!!

Bob R

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some observations as I collect my thoughts tonight:
> 
> Driving in limp home is easy-peasey.  I really didn’t know what to expect, 
> however, when I was going down the road at 30 mph I was wondering why I was 
> revving to over 3000 rpm - than I remembered that the transmission wouldn’t 
> upshift at that level, so I backed off and sure enough, it shifted.
> 
> Idle is high and sometimes rough.  It doesn’t like to start sometimes.  Hmm.
> 
> Lower engine harness is definitely kaput.  I had oil pressure - I didn’t have 
> oil pressure - then I did.
> 
> I have never driven a W124 with tighter suspension than this car. It’s 
> definitely been rebuilt recently.  Dang thing drives like it’s on rails.
> 
> Noticed a small 4-5 conductor harness between the “coffin” and the false 
> firewall that has deteriorated to the point where someone has pulled the 
> wires apart to separate them.  Hmm.  Looks like they go into a round 
> connector of some sort that’s clipped or anchored to the back of the coffin 
> box. The ETA harness is definitely a new one. All of the engine covers are in 
> place and there’s absolutely no sign of any leaks or seepage.
> 
> Interior is filthy as noted.  I am often puzzled by the conundrum of why 
> someone would spend big bucks to maintain the mechanicals on a car yet treat 
> the interior like a pig sty.  However, this will clean up nicely as will be 
> seen in a few days.
> 
> Odometer is dead. Probably needs gears.  Wonder how long it’s been that way?
> 
> Did some piddly stuff tonight before I closed up.  Pulled the BE1432 and 
> cleaned it up, popped the faceplate and cleaned connections, investigated the 
> reason for no volume down but having volume up - lousy design in the 
> mechanics of the button.  All of the speakers work now (left side didn’t when 
> I got the car) as does the fader.  Gotta love that DeOxIt fader cleaner! A 
> BE1432 faceplate exchange appears to be in my future.
> 
> Pulled the roller box out of the console, center wood and ash tray.  Cleaned 
> everything well and reinstalled. Replaced a burned out lamp in the ash tray 
> and reattached the wood trim surround.  Spring and mechanism that makes 
> ashtray toggle open/closed is buggered up and can’t be fixed, so a new (used) 
> ashtray is in my future (anyone got a W124 ashtray they want to part with?)  
> The flat metal spring in the back of the ashtray assembly that pops the ash 
> receptacle out when you push the button had come out of the back where the 
> plastic had broken down around the rivet that secured it.  New rivet with a 
> back up washer fixed that.
> 
> Did a couple of test spots on the finish, and while it’s going to take some 
> work, it looks like it should recover well.  A lot of little black spots all 
> over the car from something environmental, like a tree.  They came off with 
> some Meguire’s 105 polish, which is good.
> 
> Lots of lamps out.
> 
> Trunk is tight and dry.
> 
> Definitely needs a new ignition lock cylinder and keys.  Everything works 
> fine, but they’re definitely the original keys based on the wear and 
> condition.  I can’t get the car registered and titled until it’s drivable, 
> which means I can’t order keys or lock cylinders until then.
> 
> I’m not sure what I’ll have time for tomorrow, maybe some paint recovery. At 
> least I’ll get the diagnostics connected to it and see what it says.  Gotta 
> start putting my dealer parts order together for tomorrow.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 22:44:03 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If you can, great.  If not, there’s enough slop in the jacket/cable
> that you can pull the cluster out partially enough to get your hand
> back there to unscrew the collar that holds the cable in place. I can’t
> get a good purchase on the collar when everything is in the dash, so I
> pull the cluster first and do it there.  It also allows you enough room
> to get a pair of sip joint pliers on the collar if it’s really tight.

Then it's not that different from a W123.

Thank you!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you can, great.  If not, there’s enough slop in the jacket/cable that you 
can pull the cluster out partially enough to get your hand back there to 
unscrew the collar that holds the cable in place. I can’t get a good purchase 
on the collar when everything is in the dash, so I pull the cluster first and 
do it there.  It also allows you enough room to get a pair of sip joint pliers 
on the collar if it’s really tight.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:37:50 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Certainly. It’s just held in by friction, and that’s if a previous
>> remover didn’t toss the little rubber pads that are on the sides of the
>> cluster that often fall out/off when it’s removed.
>> 
>> Otherwise, take your improvised “J” hooks and insert them at the top
>> corners of the cluster between the pad and the cluster.  Once they get
>> past that, push them farther back, then rotate 90 degrees to turn the
>> little part of the “J” so it’s behind the back of the cluster.  You’ll
>> know if it’s not far enough back as you won’t be able to rotate it.
>> 
>> Once you’ve turned the hooks to engage the cluster, pull!  Rock it back
>> and forth as that will often break it loose if it hasn’t been out for a
>> while.
> 
> Does one disconnect the speedometer cable before or after pulling the
> cluster out?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 21:37:50 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Certainly. It’s just held in by friction, and that’s if a previous
> remover didn’t toss the little rubber pads that are on the sides of the
> cluster that often fall out/off when it’s removed.
> 
> Otherwise, take your improvised “J” hooks and insert them at the top
> corners of the cluster between the pad and the cluster.  Once they get
> past that, push them farther back, then rotate 90 degrees to turn the
> little part of the “J” so it’s behind the back of the cluster.  You’ll
> know if it’s not far enough back as you won’t be able to rotate it.
> 
> Once you’ve turned the hooks to engage the cluster, pull!  Rock it back
> and forth as that will often break it loose if it hasn’t been out for a
> while.

Does one disconnect the speedometer cable before or after pulling the
cluster out?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t know which model I got other than it was around $500 two years ago and 
it doesn’t have the silverware basket in the top rack (these are to be avoided 
as they apparently don’t work well from what I hear.)

We LOVE our Bosch dishwasher and will never, ever buy another brand.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Also, not sure which model I got. I will check and let you know. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb what model Bosch dishwasher did you get.
>> I'm thinking about replacing the Kenmore that we have.
>> Why didn't you tell me you were going to be in BR last week would've taking 
>> you out
>> for lunch.
>> Russ


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[MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Some observations as I collect my thoughts tonight:

Driving in limp home is easy-peasey.  I really didn’t know what to expect, 
however, when I was going down the road at 30 mph I was wondering why I was 
revving to over 3000 rpm - than I remembered that the transmission wouldn’t 
upshift at that level, so I backed off and sure enough, it shifted.

Idle is high and sometimes rough.  It doesn’t like to start sometimes.  Hmm.

Lower engine harness is definitely kaput.  I had oil pressure - I didn’t have 
oil pressure - then I did.

I have never driven a W124 with tighter suspension than this car. It’s 
definitely been rebuilt recently.  Dang thing drives like it’s on rails.

Noticed a small 4-5 conductor harness between the “coffin” and the false 
firewall that has deteriorated to the point where someone has pulled the wires 
apart to separate them.  Hmm.  Looks like they go into a round connector of 
some sort that’s clipped or anchored to the back of the coffin box. The ETA 
harness is definitely a new one. All of the engine covers are in place and 
there’s absolutely no sign of any leaks or seepage.

Interior is filthy as noted.  I am often puzzled by the conundrum of why 
someone would spend big bucks to maintain the mechanicals on a car yet treat 
the interior like a pig sty.  However, this will clean up nicely as will be 
seen in a few days.

Odometer is dead. Probably needs gears.  Wonder how long it’s been that way?

Did some piddly stuff tonight before I closed up.  Pulled the BE1432 and 
cleaned it up, popped the faceplate and cleaned connections, investigated the 
reason for no volume down but having volume up - lousy design in the mechanics 
of the button.  All of the speakers work now (left side didn’t when I got the 
car) as does the fader.  Gotta love that DeOxIt fader cleaner! A BE1432 
faceplate exchange appears to be in my future.

Pulled the roller box out of the console, center wood and ash tray.  Cleaned 
everything well and reinstalled. Replaced a burned out lamp in the ash tray and 
reattached the wood trim surround.  Spring and mechanism that makes ashtray 
toggle open/closed is buggered up and can’t be fixed, so a new (used) ashtray 
is in my future (anyone got a W124 ashtray they want to part with?)  The flat 
metal spring in the back of the ashtray assembly that pops the ash receptacle 
out when you push the button had come out of the back where the plastic had 
broken down around the rivet that secured it.  New rivet with a back up washer 
fixed that.

Did a couple of test spots on the finish, and while it’s going to take some 
work, it looks like it should recover well.  A lot of little black spots all 
over the car from something environmental, like a tree.  They came off with 
some Meguire’s 105 polish, which is good.

Lots of lamps out.

Trunk is tight and dry.

Definitely needs a new ignition lock cylinder and keys.  Everything works fine, 
but they’re definitely the original keys based on the wear and condition.  I 
can’t get the car registered and titled until it’s drivable, which means I 
can’t order keys or lock cylinders until then.

I’m not sure what I’ll have time for tomorrow, maybe some paint recovery. At 
least I’ll get the diagnostics connected to it and see what it says.  Gotta 
start putting my dealer parts order together for tomorrow.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 300sel 4.5

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

First pictures look nice.  Last pictures look like it needs to stay at 
McPherson College a while longer.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 8:42 PM
1972 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 4.5 L

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1972-mercedes-benz-300-sel-45/6494138945.html


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[MBZ] 300sel 4.5

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1972 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL 4.5 L

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1972-mercedes-benz-300-sel-45/6494138945.html


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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Certainly. It’s just held in by friction, and that’s if a previous remover 
didn’t toss the little rubber pads that are on the sides of the cluster that 
often fall out/off when it’s removed.

Otherwise, take your improvised “J” hooks and insert them at the top corners of 
the cluster between the pad and the cluster.  Once they get past that, push 
them farther back, then rotate 90 degrees to turn the little part of the “J” so 
it’s behind the back of the cluster.  You’ll know if it’s not far enough back 
as you won’t be able to rotate it.

Once you’ve turned the hooks to engage the cluster, pull!  Rock it back and 
forth as that will often break it loose if it hasn’t been out for a while.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 8:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:49:53 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Fashion a couple of hooks from some really stiff wire, insert in the
>> same area that you would for a 123 cluster, rotate and pull out.
>> 
>> BUT before you do that: Unhook the speedometer cable to provide some
>> slack to avoid putting a kink in the cable.  It is anchored below the
>> dash under the carpet / foot rest, right below the steering column.
>> You may also want to unhook from the transmission and push some up into
>> the passenger compartment to make sure you don't kink the cable.
> 
> Can I push it out from behind like a 123 cluster?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Happy birthday, mine was last week...
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 12, 2018, 5:31:57 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 My birthday is the 13th. When I was very young my grandmother had me convinced 
that my birthday was the reason for the holiday. It wasn’t till about first 
grade that I figured out what was going on.  

Bob R

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> To our 16th President, Abraham Lincoln    Feb 12.  A day that used to be a 
> goobermnt and bank holiday.
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:49:53 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Fashion a couple of hooks from some really stiff wire, insert in the
> same area that you would for a 123 cluster, rotate and pull out.
> 
> BUT before you do that: Unhook the speedometer cable to provide some
> slack to avoid putting a kink in the cable.  It is anchored below the
> dash under the carpet / foot rest, right below the steering column.
> You may also want to unhook from the transmission and push some up into
> the passenger compartment to make sure you don't kink the cable.

Can I push it out from behind like a 123 cluster?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Also, not sure which model I got. I will check and let you know. 

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb what model Bosch dishwasher did you get.
> I'm thinking about replacing the Kenmore that we have.
> Why didn't you tell me you were going to be in BR last week would've taking 
> you out
> for lunch.
> Russ
> 
>> On Mon,2/12/18 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So I love my Bosch dishwasher. How are Bosch washers and driers? I have 
>> contemplated buying a like new set instead of jacking with replacing 
>> bearings in mine. I may go ahead and fix the bearing then sell the set and 
>> get some of my money back.
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well crap, I did not realize you were down there. My mother lives over by 
Lafayette so I will be down again I’m sure.

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb what model Bosch dishwasher did you get.
> I'm thinking about replacing the Kenmore that we have.
> Why didn't you tell me you were going to be in BR last week would've taking 
> you out
> for lunch.
> Russ
> 
>> On Mon,2/12/18 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So I love my Bosch dishwasher. How are Bosch washers and driers? I have 
>> contemplated buying a like new set instead of jacking with replacing 
>> bearings in mine. I may go ahead and fix the bearing then sell the set and 
>> get some of my money back.
>> 
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[MBZ] Banshee Be Gone

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The Becker Banshees have moved along for the day.   The bench test last week 
did not evict them, but allowing the radio to dry out did remove them.  At 
least for now.  I will need to install a dehumidifier in the console so i can 
play the radio.  The little bucket of Dri-Z-Air is not able to keep up with the 
condensation.


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

Kaleb what model Bosch dishwasher did you get.
I'm thinking about replacing the Kenmore that we have.
Why didn't you tell me you were going to be in BR last week would've 
taking you out

for lunch.
Russ

On Mon,2/12/18 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So I love my Bosch dishwasher. How are Bosch washers and driers? I have 
contemplated buying a like new set instead of jacking with replacing bearings 
in mine. I may go ahead and fix the bearing then sell the set and get some of 
my money back.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Is In The House!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Done.  See the update:

Had a lot of stuff going on around the house and had to wait for the boys to 
clear out so I had the driveway to myself.  Got started on the exterior about 
5:00 and just came in to update the blog and hydrate.  I’ll be moving the car 
into the garage next where the lighting is far better and I can start in on 
surface prep.  That’s probably about as far as I’ll get tonight, although I’m 
seriously considering taking the time to hook it up to my DAS system and 
running the diagnostics to see what it says.

You can see the blog here:

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 7:01 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pull the cladding.  You will always be wondering about the schmutz behind it 
> until you do.  Maybe it has been so packed with saturated slime for so long 
> that rust is starting to bubble up through the paint.  Kill the tin worm 
> before it eats the car!
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Pull the cladding.  You will always be wondering about the schmutz behind it 
until you do.  Maybe it has been so packed with saturated slime for so long 
that rust is starting to bubble up through the paint.  Kill the tin worm before 
it eats the car!


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And they’ll be far more detailed, I hope.  I haven’t decided whether I’m 
> pulling the body cladding today so I can get to the finish.  I’ll want to 
> wash it with the cladding removed, as there will be a boatload of crud behind 
> the panels.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:29:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
>>> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
>> 
>> I don't see any on-the-driveway pictures.
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Bosch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I love my Bosch dishwasher. How are Bosch washers and driers? I have 
contemplated buying a like new set instead of jacking with replacing bearings 
in mine. I may go ahead and fix the bearing then sell the set and get some of 
my money back. 

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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Pun intended

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 12, 2018 4:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> And they’ll be far more detailed, I hope.  I haven’t decided whether I’m
> pulling the body cladding today so I can get to the finish.  I’ll want to
> wash it with the cladding removed, as there will be a boatload of crud
> behind the panels.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:29:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
> >> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> >>
> >> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> >
> > I don't see any on-the-driveway pictures.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wait till you get the million one. That will be worth more on flea bay than
the whole car.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 12, 2018 6:43 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Damn, what an idiot. He could have just sent away for it for free, like
> the rest of us.  I wonder what the 750k km badge coming my way would get
> me.  I am seeing big $ for it.
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Serious brain trauma?
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Damn, what an idiot. He could have just sent away for it for free, like the 
rest of us.  I wonder what the 750k km badge coming my way would get me.  I am 
seeing big $ for it.


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1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Serious brain trauma?
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts Specials from MBoemparts.com

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>> From: "Krusinski, Robert" 
>> Date: February 12, 2018 at 3:31:46 PM CST
>> Subject: Mercedes Benz Parts Specials from MBoemparts.com
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

My birthday is the 13th. When I was very young my grandmother had me convinced 
that my birthday was the reason for the holiday. It wasn’t till about first 
grade that I figured out what was going on.  

Bob R

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[MBZ] Happy Birthday

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

To our 16th President, Abraham LincolnFeb 12.   A day that used to 
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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Parts Specials from MBoemparts.com

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> Subject: Mercedes Benz Parts Specials from MBoemparts.com
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And they’ll be far more detailed, I hope.  I haven’t decided whether I’m 
pulling the body cladding today so I can get to the finish.  I’ll want to wash 
it with the cladding removed, as there will be a boatload of crud behind the 
panels.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:29:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
>> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> 
> I don't see any on-the-driveway pictures.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They’re coming.  I’m waiting for some people to go to work so I can clear the 
driveway out and prepare to wash it.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 4:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:29:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
>> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> 
> I don't see any on-the-driveway pictures.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:29:25 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html

I don't see any on-the-driveway pictures.


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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

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Yow!  That would be painful to look at.

Thanks for the offer, however.

-D
> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've got a complete red MB tex interior if you want to swap out that boring
> blue.  Special price!
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Check - got a spare hood ornament
>> Got a W140 wheel with burled wood trim that matches the trim in the 400E
>> Put my leather seat cover guy on this already.  He’s on the hunt.
>> 
>> Wait until you see my list tonight.  It will be extensive, I’m sure.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've got a complete red MB tex interior if you want to swap out that boring
blue.  Special price!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Check - got a spare hood ornament
> Got a W140 wheel with burled wood trim that matches the trim in the 400E
> Put my leather seat cover guy on this already.  He’s on the hunt.
>
> Wait until you see my list tonight.  It will be extensive, I’m sure.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > List:
> > Hood ornament
> > Steering wheel (or black wheelskin)
> > Driver's seat new leather back.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
> >> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
> >>
> >> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Check - got a spare hood ornament
Got a W140 wheel with burled wood trim that matches the trim in the 400E
Put my leather seat cover guy on this already.  He’s on the hunt.

Wait until you see my list tonight.  It will be extensive, I’m sure.

-D

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> List:
> Hood ornament
> Steering wheel (or black wheelskin)
> Driver's seat new leather back.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
>> very thorough inventory of issues later tonight:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

List:
Hood ornament
Steering wheel (or black wheelskin)
Driver's seat new leather back.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> 400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a
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>
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html
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> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Truth or Fiction?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ROFL.  Dead silent at any speed under .0001 mph.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> +1 !!!
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The left turn signal was on for the last 34 years as he drove around.  A
> testament to Lucas?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 2/12/18 3:27 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Can you imagine even having the same car for 82 years?
> >>
> >> Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA ) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce
> Piccadilly-P1 Roadster from his father, brand new – as a graduation gift in
> 1928.
> >>
> >> He drove it up until his death last year … At the age of 102!!!
> >> He was the oldest living owner of a car that was purchased new. It was
> donated to a Springfield museum after his death.
> >>
> >> It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead
> silent at any speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years).
> That’s approximately 13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)…
> >>
> >> 1,070,000 that’s miles not kilometers!!
> >>
> >> That’s British engineering of a bygone era. I don’t think they make
> them like this any more.
> >>
> >> https://www.truthorfiction.com/allan-swift-rolls-050613/
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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

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I believe the plural is Maybachen.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> You will always be behind the velvet rope, watching the Beautiful People
> sashay by in their high-fashion clothes and accessories, having climbed out
> of their chauffeured S-klasses and Maybachs, glancing askance at you, if
> they even bother, with a look of contempt, condescension and pity in their
> overly-made-up eyes.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 2/12/18 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> I also am on the waiting list.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
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>> jacket
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [MBZ] Truth or Fiction?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1 !!!

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The left turn signal was on for the last 34 years as he drove around.  A 
> testament to Lucas?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 2/12/18 3:27 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Can you imagine even having the same car for 82 years?
>> 
>> Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA ) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce 
>> Piccadilly-P1 Roadster from his father, brand new – as a graduation gift in 
>> 1928.
>> 
>> He drove it up until his death last year … At the age of 102!!!
>> He was the oldest living owner of a car that was purchased new. It was 
>> donated to a Springfield museum after his death.
>> 
>> It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at 
>> any speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years). That’s 
>> approximately 13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)…
>> 
>> 1,070,000 that’s miles not kilometers!!
>> 
>> That’s British engineering of a bygone era. I don’t think they make them 
>> like this any more.
>> 
>> https://www.truthorfiction.com/allan-swift-rolls-050613/
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

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OK, I was wondering.  My understanding of physics was suddenly distorted.

-D

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> no, not on induction, on the gas hob
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 2/12/18 3:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Induction works wth copper?  I thought you had to have the special steel 
>> bottomed pots and pans?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I came by a large set of copper pots and stuff a friend was unloading.  
>>> You put water in a copper pot, then turn on the heat, and it is amazing how 
>>> fast the water boils.  I have some tri-layer SS pots and they are not 
>>> nearly as fast
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/12/18 2:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
 fast this is.
>>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Truth or Fiction?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The left turn signal was on for the last 34 years as he drove around.  A 
testament to Lucas?


--FT


On 2/12/18 3:27 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Can you imagine even having the same car for 82 years?

Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA ) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce 
Piccadilly-P1 Roadster from his father, brand new – as a graduation gift in 
1928.

He drove it up until his death last year … At the age of 102!!!
He was the oldest living owner of a car that was purchased new. It was donated 
to a Springfield museum after his death.

It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at any 
speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years). That’s approximately 
13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)…

1,070,000 that’s miles not kilometers!!

That’s British engineering of a bygone era. I don’t think they make them like 
this any more.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/allan-swift-rolls-050613/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

no, not on induction, on the gas hob

--FT


On 2/12/18 3:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Induction works wth copper?  I thought you had to have the special steel 
bottomed pots and pans?

-D



On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

  I came by a large set of copper pots and stuff a friend was unloading.  You 
put water in a copper pot, then turn on the heat, and it is amazing how fast 
the water boils.  I have some tri-layer SS pots and they are not nearly as fast


On 2/12/18 2:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
fast this is.

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[MBZ] It's Arrived!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

400E is now home and in the driveway, awaiting a serious washing and a very 
thorough inventory of issues later tonight:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/400E_Blog/400E_Blog.html

-D


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[MBZ] Truth or Fiction?

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Can you imagine even having the same car for 82 years?

Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA ) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce 
Piccadilly-P1 Roadster from his father, brand new – as a graduation gift in 
1928.

He drove it up until his death last year … At the age of 102!!!
He was the oldest living owner of a car that was purchased new. It was donated 
to a Springfield museum after his death.

It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at any 
speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years). That’s approximately 
13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)…

1,070,000 that’s miles not kilometers!!

That’s British engineering of a bygone era. I don’t think they make them like 
this any more.

https://www.truthorfiction.com/allan-swift-rolls-050613/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Induction works wth copper?  I thought you had to have the special steel 
bottomed pots and pans?

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  I came by a large set of copper pots and stuff a friend was unloading.  You 
> put water in a copper pot, then turn on the heat, and it is amazing how fast 
> the water boils.  I have some tri-layer SS pots and they are not nearly as 
> fast
> 
> 
> On 2/12/18 2:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
>> fast this is.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 I came by a large set of copper pots and stuff a friend was 
unloading.  You put water in a copper pot, then turn on the heat, and it 
is amazing how fast the water boils.  I have some tri-layer SS pots and 
they are not nearly as fast



On 2/12/18 2:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
fast this is.


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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You will always be behind the velvet rope, watching the Beautiful People 
sashay by in their high-fashion clothes and accessories, having climbed 
out of their chauffeured S-klasses and Maybachs, glancing askance at 
you, if they even bother, with a look of contempt, condescension and 
pity in their overly-made-up eyes.


--FT


On 2/12/18 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I also am on the waiting list.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


you will never be a member, and you will not get the Members Only
jacket

--FT



On 2/11/18 11:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Dan G asks:

‎What is daveslist?

Top secret email list.
Members only.
Invite only.
I am not a member.
You are not a member.
That's all I know.

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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cool!  Thanks, guys, I’ll do some pushing on it and see.

-D

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pushing on things with a dowel and listening for changes to the noise can
> help isolate the faulty bits.
> 
> I think the shocks last about half as long as the bearings, so odds are
> good that the shock is bad, could be both.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring,
>> lever, idler pulley.
>> 
>> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the
>> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Pushing on things with a dowel and listening for changes to the noise can
help isolate the faulty bits.

I think the shocks last about half as long as the bearings, so odds are
good that the shock is bad, could be both.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring,
> lever, idler pulley.
>
> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the
> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

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It’s mostly likely just the shot. They redesigned it for 606 and it just 
doesn’t really wear out like the older ones do

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring, 
> lever, idler pulley.
> 
> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the 
> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
>> the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
>> combination.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I used heavy coat hanger wire bent into a “T” for years until I finally popped 
for a set of the official MB pullers a year ago.  They are stout!!

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fashion a couple of hooks from some really stiff wire, insert in the same
> area that you would for a 123 cluster, rotate and pull out.
> 
> BUT before you do that: Unhook the speedometer cable to provide some slack
> to avoid putting a kink in the cable.  It is anchored below the dash under
> the carpet / foot rest, right below the steering column.  You may also want
> to unhook from the transmission and push some up into the passenger
> compartment to make sure you don't kink the cable.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> In wanting to work on the speedometer/odometer of our '90 E300D, I need
>> to get the instrument cluster out.
>> 
>> How do I do that? Any tips or hints?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring, lever, 
idler pulley.

So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the idler 
pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.

-D



> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
> the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
> combination.
> 
> -
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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

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I also am on the waiting list.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> you will never be a member, and you will not get the Members Only jacket
>
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>
>
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[MBZ] 24.5k for a '94 E320??

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mercedes-benz-e320-3/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
combination.

-
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[G Mann via Mercedes]

We all know control boards never fail right?

The home appliance industry standard is, if a part has a high failure
rate.. bring out a new model... and stop making any repair parts
immediately... so you can't fix the unit that failed... and have to buy a
new unit...

BTDT... to many times.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Kevin,
>
> It's a Whirlpool, has a touch panel control.  I would also prefer knobs and
> physical buttons, given a choice, for simplicity and probably also lower
> cost.  However, this particular cook top was a deeply discounted floor
> display at a price too good to pass ($360).
>
> Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
> fast this is.
>
> This a.m. I made espresso using a stove-top moka machine which is aluminum,
> heated on a steel adapter plate.  Despite the inefficiency and losses of
> heating the adapter plate to heat the moka machine, it was still
> impressively fast.
>
> I'm a little leery about the cost of parts if I have to make any repair, a
> cursory check on the price for a new control board is $400, and there are
> two that can fail.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What brand of induction cooktop did you purchase? I am thinking about
> > purchasing in induction cooktop, but I would like one that has knobs
> rather
> > than a touch panel with a display that is hard to see. I really like the
> > adaptive technology since the surface is  not hot when the burners are
> > turned off.
> > Kevin and Hillsboro Oregon
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Fashion a couple of hooks from some really stiff wire, insert in the same
area that you would for a 123 cluster, rotate and pull out.

BUT before you do that: Unhook the speedometer cable to provide some slack
to avoid putting a kink in the cable.  It is anchored below the dash under
the carpet / foot rest, right below the steering column.  You may also want
to unhook from the transmission and push some up into the passenger
compartment to make sure you don't kink the cable.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> In wanting to work on the speedometer/odometer of our '90 E300D, I need
> to get the instrument cluster out.
>
> How do I do that? Any tips or hints?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More rodbender

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That can't be that difficult to repair permanently.  Have you checked the
air cleaner mounts?

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So just confirmed I do have a part number plate riveted to the bell
> housing on the passenger side. I would say I have a crate engine here.
> Question is, when was it installed.
>
> It’s got an aftermarket radio which as I suspected when pulling up the
> trunk liner and wiring is all jacked up. Lord I hate that. The amp is
> missing also. I guess my only alternative is to either live with the radio
> they is in it, or put it back to original which is what I would prefer. I
> bet I would have to pull the complete harness out of another car unless I
> can splice this one back together.
>
> I removed that shower curtain rod they had wedged between the power
> steering pump. When removed the pump is causing a loud rattle. It does not
> really appear to be loose but when you pull it forward the rattle stops.
> See video.
>
> https://youtu.be/ngguAm61LsM
>
> I have the title from the original owner which was signed over the a place
> called Peddle, inc out of Austin tx. I looked them up and it appears to be
> a dealer of some sort which talks about getting an instant cash offer.
> Maybe the po wanted some quick cash and they just sent the car to copart. I
> don’t see how anyone made any money on the deal though.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Kevin,

It's a Whirlpool, has a touch panel control.  I would also prefer knobs and
physical buttons, given a choice, for simplicity and probably also lower
cost.  However, this particular cook top was a deeply discounted floor
display at a price too good to pass ($360).

Boiled some water last night as the first test, and that was shocking how
fast this is.

This a.m. I made espresso using a stove-top moka machine which is aluminum,
heated on a steel adapter plate.  Despite the inefficiency and losses of
heating the adapter plate to heat the moka machine, it was still
impressively fast.

I'm a little leery about the cost of parts if I have to make any repair, a
cursory check on the price for a new control board is $400, and there are
two that can fail.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> What brand of induction cooktop did you purchase? I am thinking about
> purchasing in induction cooktop, but I would like one that has knobs rather
> than a touch panel with a display that is hard to see. I really like the
> adaptive technology since the surface is  not hot when the burners are
> turned off.
> Kevin and Hillsboro Oregon
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

What brand of induction cooktop did you purchase? I am thinking about 
purchasing in induction cooktop, but I would like one that has knobs rather 
than a touch panel with a display that is hard to see. I really like the 
adaptive technology since the surface is  not hot when the burners are turned 
off.
Kevin and Hillsboro Oregon

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On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:53 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Max wrote:
> 
>> Just installed, mounted in white Formica counter.
>> 
>> Should I run a bead of caulk around the perimeter?
>> 
>> Nothing in the installation guide about doing that, I was
>> thinking the glass needed to be floating so it could expand and
>> contract and not break.  However, lots of food and liquid is
>> going to get under the edge of the glass if not sealed.
> 
> I have a glass-top gas stovetop.  I put calk around the edge.
> It's been more than a year and I haven't had a problem.
> 
> I did caulk the outside edge - not "glue" it down.  And I used as
> little as possible, but like you, I don't want dry or liquid junk
> getting underneath.
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh, sorry, I was talking about the 603.  I don't know about the 606,  
unless it is the same.  I thought the 606 below the head was pretty much 
the same as the 603.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 12:16 PM
I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The 
bearing is actually the bolt on the 606.


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[MBZ] OK, How do I get the instrument cluster out?

[Craig via Mercedes]

In wanting to work on the speedometer/odometer of our '90 E300D, I need
to get the instrument cluster out.

How do I do that? Any tips or hints?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The part is completely different than on the 603. I’m not really sure I have 
ever had one go bad like they do in the 603. You sure it’s not just the belt 
shock rattling?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So does the pin/bolt have to be changed with everything else to eliminate the 
> noise?  It’s expensive from the stealer - over $50.  I don’t recall that 
> being the case on the 603.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
>> actually the bolt on the 606.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing 
>>> but a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must 
>>> be a bearing or bushings in the lever.
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Picture would definitely help.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Max wrote:
>
> > Just installed, mounted in white Formica counter.
> >
> > Should I run a bead of caulk around the perimeter?
> >
> > Nothing in the installation guide about doing that, I was
> > thinking the glass needed to be floating so it could expand and
> > contract and not break.  However, lots of food and liquid is
> > going to get under the edge of the glass if not sealed.
>
> I have a glass-top gas stovetop.  I put calk around the edge.
> It's been more than a year and I haven't had a problem.
>
> I did caulk the outside edge - not "glue" it down.  And I used as
> little as possible, but like you, I don't want dry or liquid junk
> getting underneath.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Induction cook top

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Max wrote:

> Just installed, mounted in white Formica counter.
> 
> Should I run a bead of caulk around the perimeter?
> 
> Nothing in the installation guide about doing that, I was
> thinking the glass needed to be floating so it could expand and
> contract and not break.  However, lots of food and liquid is
> going to get under the edge of the glass if not sealed.

I have a glass-top gas stovetop.  I put calk around the edge.
It's been more than a year and I haven't had a problem.

I did caulk the outside edge - not "glue" it down.  And I used as
little as possible, but like you, I don't want dry or liquid junk
getting underneath.

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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So does the pin/bolt have to be changed with everything else to eliminate the 
noise?  It’s expensive from the stealer - over $50.  I don’t recall that being 
the case on the 603.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
> actually the bolt on the 606.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
>> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
>> bearing or bushings in the lever.
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks the same as the 603 - is it?

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
> actually the bolt on the 606.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
>> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
>> bearing or bushings in the lever.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
actually the bolt on the 606.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
> bearing or bushings in the lever.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is 
>>> part of the lever.
>>> 
>>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>>> 
>>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>>> proactive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I remember this well from my 350SDL, and I recall your sharing your experiences 
about it with me - thank you.

His is barely even chirping right now, but fortunately he mentioned it to me.  
I loosened the belt on Saturday and checked everything, and there was minimal 
slop in both the lever and idler pulley.  I have given oldest son the “list ‘o’ 
parts” to procure and once he has them we’ll take care of it.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The arm(Lever) comes with the bearing as an assembly.  I have a dead one that 
> someday I want to push the bearing out of and get a bearing number.  Then 
> those that are inclined to can replace just the bearing.
> 
> Q was never able to find the bearing separately or a bearing number.  I have 
> always had to buy the assembly.
> 
> Not to worry.  They can rattle for years without causing any further 
> problems.  Just an annoying rattle.  I think you could take if off, push out 
> the bearing, turn it 45 to 135º, reassemble and everything would be fine 
> again.  Since the arm oly turns a few degrees, the rollers wear into the 
> races, but by turning the bearing in the arm, you'd have virtually unworn 
> surfaces.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> February 12, 2018 at 11:29 AM
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever? I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The arm(Lever) comes with the bearing as an assembly.  I have a dead one 
that someday I want to push the bearing out of and get a bearing 
number.  Then those that are inclined to can replace just the bearing.


Q was never able to find the bearing separately or a bearing number.  I 
have always had to buy the assembly.


Not to worry.  They can rattle for years without causing any further 
problems.  Just an annoying rattle.  I think you could take if off, push 
out the bearing, turn it 45 to 135º, reassemble and everything would be 
fine again.  Since the arm oly turns a few degrees, the rollers wear 
into the races, but by turning the bearing in the arm, you'd have 
virtually unworn surfaces.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 11:29 AM
Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever? I see the 
bearing as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to 
offer it in the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect 
the bearing is part of the lever.


When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.

Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help 
him be proactive.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but a 
washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
bearing or bushings in the lever.




> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan.

I tried buying the bearing separately. The combined price was higher that a 
complete lever assembly.

YMMV.

Fred.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 12 February 2018 12:58
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

So I need to buy a bearing, too?  I could have sworn the bearing came with the 
lever on my 350SDL…

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> The bearing is separate from the leaver
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So I need to buy a bearing, too?  I could have sworn the bearing came with the 
lever on my 350SDL…

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The bearing is separate from the leaver 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
> of the lever.
> 
> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
> 
> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
> proactive.
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing as 
a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in the 
aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part of the 
lever.

When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.

Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
proactive.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT - spray painted glasses

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Use a razor scraper - carefully. Works for me.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> High temp paint is strong stuff if you let it cure, the sooner you get at
> it the better. I had one lantern somebody had painted in high temp black,
> it just laughed at paint stripper, I finally removed it with hydrochloric
> acid...
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 12:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The lenses are polycarbonate, the paint
> is silver high temp engine enamel
> (left over from the M117 re-build in the SLC).
> I'll try Goo Gone, then perhaps mineral spirits if still needed, after I
> find the previous pair of glasses . . .
> Thanks
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > what kind of plastic?  If they are polycarbonate, you have more options.
> > If they are acrylic, then you options are limited
> >
> > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> >> February 9, 2018 at 9:12 PM
> >> What kind of paint? Mineral spirits worked (gradually) OK for me for
> >> paint that thins with that stuff. Just don't wait too long.
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just ordered one for the W210 wagon, as it’s eligible for a 250k (km) badge.  
I had a spare from a previous car I no longer have, so I went ahead and stuck 
that on.

As soon as I get the 400E sorted I’ll put in for a 250k badge for it.  It’s not 
far from a 500k badge, too (about 442k km, I think.)

-D

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes-on my 300D 2,5t the paint faded on the grille badge and they sent me a
> new one.(for free) of course.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes-on my 300D 2,5t the paint faded on the grille badge and they sent me a
new one.(for free) of course.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Oh boy, I could pay for something MB gives for free...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, February 12, 2018, 10:16:51 AM EST, Dwight Giles via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  I have a couple of those around. No good. Certificate is vehicle specific.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Feb 12, 2018 6:06 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Serious brain trauma?
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

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Oh boy, I could pay for something MB gives for free...
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 12, 2018, 10:16:51 AM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a couple of those around. No good. Certificate is vehicle specific.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 12, 2018 6:06 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Serious brain trauma?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 
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Re: [MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I have a couple of those around. No good. Certificate is vehicle specific.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 12, 2018 6:06 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Serious brain trauma?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 
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Re: [MBZ] OT leveling porch

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just cut angled 2X strips to nail on top of existing joists, or if you 
want to strengthen the floor then add sister joists and hangers at each 
end.  then new subfloor and floor.


--FT


On 2/12/18 9:54 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I am working on my new (to me) house.  It was built in 1900.  It has a sleeping 
porch (at least that is what they used to be called) upstairs and down stairs.  
Apparently they were built with a slope of about 2 inches (for 
drainage/runoff).  So, the outside wall is two inches lower than the rest.  As 
part of our repairs we needed to support the outside walls because it has 
settled slightly on one corner.  The porch is tied into the foundation of the 
house and supported with concrete pillars on the outside two corners.  We have 
managed to support it and jack it up so that is level side to side.  So, that's 
a big accomplishment.  It is secure and sturdy.  BUT, the porch is also the 
laundry room and we are adding a bathroom  -- just a sink and toilet.  We need 
to level the floor on the inside.   I think the best wait to do it is to add 
joists to the current joists that are raised to level the floor.   Here is my 
idea:  The highest point of the floor is where it is tied into the house and 
the lowest point is the furthest outside wall.  So, if I add a joist (sister 
it) and raise it up over the current joist and add another to the outside wall 
that is still higher to make up the two inch slope, isn't that the best way to 
level the floor on the inside?  The new joists will support the subfloor and 
make it level.   Am I thinking this through correctly?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT leveling porch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The porch upstairs is now an enclosed (heated and air conditioned) room?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am working on my new (to me) house.  It was built in 1900.  It has a
> sleeping porch (at least that is what they used to be called) upstairs and
> down stairs.  Apparently they were built with a slope of about 2 inches
> (for drainage/runoff).  So, the outside wall is two inches lower than the
> rest.  As part of our repairs we needed to support the outside walls
> because it has settled slightly on one corner.  The porch is tied into the
> foundation of the house and supported with concrete pillars on the outside
> two corners.  We have managed to support it and jack it up so that is level
> side to side.  So, that's a big accomplishment.  It is secure and sturdy.
> BUT, the porch is also the laundry room and we are adding a bathroom  --
> just a sink and toilet.  We need to level the floor on the inside.   I
> think the best wait to do it is to add joists to the current joists that
> are raised to level the floor.   Here is my idea:  The highest point of the
> floor is where it is tied into the house and the lowest point is the
> furthest outside wall.  So, if I add a joist (sister it) and raise it up
> over the current joist and add another to the outside wall that is still
> higher to make up the two inch slope, isn't that the best way to level the
> floor on the inside?  The new joists will support the subfloor and make it
> level.   Am I thinking this through correctly?
>
> Donald H. Snook
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[MBZ] OT leveling porch

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I am working on my new (to me) house.  It was built in 1900.  It has a sleeping 
porch (at least that is what they used to be called) upstairs and down stairs.  
Apparently they were built with a slope of about 2 inches (for 
drainage/runoff).  So, the outside wall is two inches lower than the rest.  As 
part of our repairs we needed to support the outside walls because it has 
settled slightly on one corner.  The porch is tied into the foundation of the 
house and supported with concrete pillars on the outside two corners.  We have 
managed to support it and jack it up so that is level side to side.  So, that's 
a big accomplishment.  It is secure and sturdy.  BUT, the porch is also the 
laundry room and we are adding a bathroom  -- just a sink and toilet.  We need 
to level the floor on the inside.   I think the best wait to do it is to add 
joists to the current joists that are raised to level the floor.   Here is my 
idea:  The highest point of the floor is where it is tied into the house and 
the lowest point is the furthest outside wall.  So, if I add a joist (sister 
it) and raise it up over the current joist and add another to the outside wall 
that is still higher to make up the two inch slope, isn't that the best way to 
level the floor on the inside?  The new joists will support the subfloor and 
make it level.   Am I thinking this through correctly?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

you will never be a member, and you will not get the Members Only jacket

--FT


On 2/11/18 11:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Dan G asks:


‎What is daveslist?

Top secret email list.
Members only.
Invite only.
I am not a member.
You are not a member.
That's all I know.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

"Open the [daveslist] bay door Hal!"

"I'm afraid I can't do that Dave."

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Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 8:58 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dave is the only member and he prefers to keep it that way.
>
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> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-02-11  10:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mountain Man via Mercedes  Cc: Rick Knoble <
> rickkno...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] daveslist
> Dan G asks:
>
> >‎What is daveslist?
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> Top secret email list.
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Re: [MBZ] Too Bad About the Paint...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Put some benches in the back, party wagon.

Like my old VW barn door van that was painted olive drab - I had a friend who 
did airbrush work put “der Party Vagon” on the sides in old English.  Made my 
Dad mad as heck.

-D



> On Feb 12, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Only 100k miles.  Lotsa life yet in the old buggy.   Black paint, no clear.  
> That should be easier to repair than if it had clearcoat.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> February 12, 2018 at 6:42 AM
>> …this is actually pretty cool:
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-E280-Bestattungswagen-Ideal-fur-Neugrunder-Klimaanlage/183060709113?hash=item2a9f44bef9:g:ueAAAOSwKXdadG3g
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Too Bad About the Paint...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Only 100k miles.  Lotsa life yet in the old buggy.   Black paint, no 
clear.  That should be easier to repair than if it had clearcoat.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 6:42 AM
…this is actually pretty cool:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-E280-Bestattungswagen-Ideal-fur-Neugrunder-Klimaanlage/183060709113?hash=item2a9f44bef9:g:ueAAAOSwKXdadG3g 



-D


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Re: [MBZ] daveslist

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Dave is the only member and he prefers to keep it that way.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-02-11  10:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mountain 
Man via Mercedes  Cc: Rick Knoble 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] daveslist 
Dan G asks:

>‎What is daveslist?

Top secret email list.
Members only. 
Invite only.
I am not a member. 
You are not a member.
That's all I know.

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[MBZ] Too Bad About the Paint...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

…this is actually pretty cool:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-E280-Bestattungswagen-Ideal-fur-Neugrunder-Klimaanlage/183060709113?hash=item2a9f44bef9:g:ueAAAOSwKXdadG3g
 


-D


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[MBZ] I Don't Even Know What To Say....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Serious brain trauma?

https://tinyurl.com/y7lncba3 

-D
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