Re: [MBZ] OT Calling Tin Man Mao

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Did your doctor prescribe magnetic therapy Andrew?  
Gerry

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> I iced religiously to hasten healing of both L and R rotator cuff
> surgeries, along with using a Nikken magnet.  Currently icing lavishly and
> using magnet on my partial right knee replacement.  Doc says I am WAY ahead
> of schedule in terms of range of motion and lack of serious discomfort.
> 
> GO ICE
> GO MAGNETS
> 
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:08 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> > I read this and think of you
> >
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> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/wim-hof-cold-water-immersion-cure-ice-man-outdoor-swimming
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Re: [MBZ] r12 to r134a Conversion in my W124

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Getting the stuff sounds like a good idea. Not sure why I haven’t done it 
before now. 
I suppose I’ll have to have a little YouTube fest on figuring out how to find 
the leaks and assess what I need to do.

Bob R

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> On May 7, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you’re so inclined, you can get everything you need to service AC systems 
> at Harbor Fright for under $200, if that. I did it about 3-4 years ago and 
> have paid for the stuff many, many times over.
> 
> Living in FL it’s almost a requirement to have the stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might have to call around to find a shop that will do R12 and it won’t 
>>> be cheap, but it’s well worth it.
>> 
>> I spend about $8/year (each) on my leaky non-R134a cars.  You need a vacuum 
>> pump and a gauge set.
>> And a vent thermometer.  All the tools together are _less_ than you'd spend 
>> for one servicing.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

It was an old lesbian- similar.

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> On May 8, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> The driver was an old man?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Wed, May 8, 2019, 7:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So the question is why would anyone help out a broken down Prius?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 8, 2019, at 4:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >> OK wrote:
>> > 
>> >> A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still
>> >> good though.
>> > 
>> > Beep! Beep!  His horn went Beep! Beep! Beep!
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[MBZ] Compressor seal part numbers?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Anyone?  I used to have them, maybe on another computer.
-
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Re: [MBZ] this could be nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is strange.  Maybe they pulled it.  It just got listed today I believe.

On 5/8/2019 8:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Perhaps, but the sale has ended … did you buy it?

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Re: [MBZ] this could be nice

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Perhaps, but the sale has ended … did you buy it?

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Re: [MBZ] vermont title

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well they can't tax poor people driving the people's car, got stick it to The 
Man driving the fancy Mercedes, everyone knows you have to be rich to drive a 
Benz!
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On May 8, 2019 8:13:45 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Thats weird, when I bought the '98 Jetta it had sat for a year and I
>paid some piddling amount in penalties, like $50.
>-Curt
>
>On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 7:42:31 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
>Same problem with Massachusetts. I paid $600 in taxes on a car I paid
>$1000 for once and because I waited a few years to register it, I paid
>another $600 in penalties so I ultimately paid $1200 in taxes for a
>$1000 car. I’m probably never registering a car in MA again after that.
>Will stick with Maine going forward.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 8, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Vermont wants a NADA value for 6% tax.    NADA shows $5000 for a mid
>value 1980 240D!  So vermont would want $300 tax for a $500 car.  That
>is about 60% tax.  Ouch. They tax on the boll of sale price or NADA mid
>value, whichever is HIGHER!
>> 
>> My question is, where to I go to SELL a 1980 240D in need of paint,
>with dirty interior, no Air cond, and a plethora of work needed for
>$5000???  If vermont would pay me that much for it, I could go buy 2
>nicer ones.
>> 
>> Sheesh!
>> 
>> Last 1980 240D reported to NADA was probably in 1995 or 2000.  Back
>then they WOULD bring $5000 in running condition with a number of
>things needed to make it right.
>> 
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[MBZ] AC leaks

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

This afternoon the AC in the '95 E300 was weak.  Really weak.  Yesterday it was 
ok but not as cold as it had been,  day before it was perfect like it had been 
for about a month.  Center vent air was at best about 65 degrees F today, 
yesterday around 50, before that 44.

I recharged with a partial can let over from last time, then got out the leak 
detector.  Evap still has a slight leak.  Front of the compressor alarmed, so 
that shaft seal is bad.

I'm thinking about just resealing the compressor and then trying another can of 
the Cliplight leak sealer.
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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

The driver was an old man?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, May 8, 2019, 7:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> So the question is why would anyone help out a broken down Prius?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 8, 2019, at 4:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
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> >> OK wrote:
> >
> >> A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still
> >> good though.
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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hahaha I was just thinking the same thing !!  Great minds think alike,
I've been told... ;))

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> So the question is why would anyone help out a broken down Prius?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 8, 2019, at 4:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
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>
> >> OK wrote:
> >
> >> A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still
> >> good though.
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Re: [MBZ] this could be nice

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no evil crypsler acc. THAT IS nice!

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Re: [MBZ] vermont title

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Thats weird, when I bought the '98 Jetta it had sat for a year and I paid some 
piddling amount in penalties, like $50.
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 7:42:31 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Same problem with Massachusetts. I paid $600 in taxes on a car I paid $1000 
for once and because I waited a few years to register it, I paid another $600 
in penalties so I ultimately paid $1200 in taxes for a $1000 car. I’m probably 
never registering a car in MA again after that. Will stick with Maine going 
forward.

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> On May 8, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Vermont wants a NADA value for 6% tax.    NADA shows $5000 for a mid value 
> 1980 240D!  So vermont would want $300 tax for a $500 car.  That is about 60% 
> tax.  Ouch. They tax on the boll of sale price or NADA mid value, whichever 
> is HIGHER!
> 
> My question is, where to I go to SELL a 1980 240D in need of paint, with 
> dirty interior, no Air cond, and a plethora of work needed for $5000???  If 
> vermont would pay me that much for it, I could go buy 2 nicer ones.
> 
> Sheesh!
> 
> Last 1980 240D reported to NADA was probably in 1995 or 2000.  Back then they 
> WOULD bring $5000 in running condition with a number of things needed to make 
> it right.
> 
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[MBZ] this could be nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So the question is why would anyone help out a broken down Prius?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 8, 2019, at 4:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> OK wrote:
> 
>> A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still
>> good though.
> 
> Beep! Beep!  His horn went Beep! Beep! Beep!
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Re: [MBZ] vermont title

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Same problem with Massachusetts. I paid $600 in taxes on a car I paid $1000 for 
once and because I waited a few years to register it, I paid another $600 in 
penalties so I ultimately paid $1200 in taxes for a $1000 car. I’m probably 
never registering a car in MA again after that. Will stick with Maine going 
forward.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 8, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Vermont wants a NADA value for 6% tax. NADA shows $5000 for a mid value 
> 1980 240D!  So vermont would want $300 tax for a $500 car.  That is about 60% 
> tax.  Ouch. They tax on the boll of sale price or NADA mid value, whichever 
> is HIGHER!
> 
> My question is, where to I go to SELL a 1980 240D in need of paint, with 
> dirty interior, no Air cond, and a plethora of work needed for $5000???   If 
> vermont would pay me that much for it, I could go buy 2 nicer ones.
> 
> Sheesh!
> 
> Last 1980 240D reported to NADA was probably in 1995 or 2000.   Back then 
> they WOULD bring $5000 in running condition with a number of things needed to 
> make it right.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Watch this before buying your next Mercedes

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Everything I know I learned from Scotty.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On May 8, 2019 5:51:53 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Watch this before buying your next Mercedes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Right ON!

Only "87 separate computer modules."    What a load of horsepoop a 
Mercedes has become.   Go Scotty!  Tell the truth!


Now you know why I don't want one.   I like my 240Ds and 124/126 with OM603!


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 4:51 PM:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TZk6P5PR7b0=youtu.be

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[MBZ] Watch this before buying your next Mercedes

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TZk6P5PR7b0=youtu.be

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Re: [MBZ] vermont title

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Vermont wants a NADA value for 6% tax.     NADA shows $5000 for a mid 
value 1980 240D!  So vermont would want $300 tax for a $500 car.  That 
is about 60% tax.  Ouch. They tax on the boll of sale price or NADA mid 
value, whichever is HIGHER!


My question is, where to I go to SELL a 1980 240D in need of paint, with 
dirty interior, no Air cond, and a plethora of work needed for 
$5000???   If vermont would pay me that much for it, I could go buy 2 
nicer ones.


Sheesh!

Last 1980 240D reported to NADA was probably in 1995 or 2000.   Back 
then they WOULD bring $5000 in running condition with a number of things 
needed to make it right.



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Re: [MBZ] OT are these things really this cheap?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I see some delamination at the lower front corner of the window right behind 
the cab.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT are these things really this cheap?

No interior pics but it looks pretty good and low miles.  probably sucks 
fuel at a prodigious rate.

1998 Ford Coachman. Class C Motorhome. 30 ft. 39000 miles V10. 6 new 
tires. $10500.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/304701050471775/

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Re: [MBZ] Yo Andrew here you go, blue/blue TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Oh.

Nevermind.

On Wed, May 8, 2019, 4:33 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> That's not a bluetec it is a bluetd
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/8/19 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >   Bluetec emissions are v. low.
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019, 4:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> But, but but . . .  Andrew does not want to pollute the planet. Andrew
> >> wants an electric car.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/05/2019 2:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Crack price but looks nice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   ‎Nicholas Mulkey
> >>> <
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=18492496936&__tn__=%2CdC-R-R=ARAjuIBX-mOMrlXEAXMNi6mxLfb2-7i7ktnJsad6aOYxJ5Yc7Hodvjd0U7Ub47nV5xi7kCVUgKGcAraB_ref=ARQWQbcRRAZO1d9Gfm46sMhf9H4AQlPXIkqjwsK2EJaAhIbazyVfx9aXvQH-ZMnyYVA=nf_id=2195285167204877
> >>> ‎/_to_/Mercedes
> >>>   W123 (North America)
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> 4 hrs
> >>> <
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/2195285167204877/?sale_post_id=2195285167204877
> >·
> >>
> >>> 300TD
> >>> $2,000
> >>> Falls, PA
> >>>
> >>> For Sale 1983 300TD
> >>> 172,286 miles. Ran last in 1992. Great candidate for a resto.
> >>> $2000 firm. Need gone yesterday. Located in Baltimore
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <
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Re: [MBZ] Yo Andrew here you go, blue/blue TD

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's not a bluetec it is a bluetd

--FT

On 5/8/19 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

  Bluetec emissions are v. low.

On Wed, May 8, 2019, 4:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


But, but but . . .  Andrew does not want to pollute the planet. Andrew
wants an electric car.


On 08/05/2019 2:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Crack price but looks nice


  ‎Nicholas Mulkey
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  W123 (North America)


4 hrs
<

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300TD
$2,000
Falls, PA

For Sale 1983 300TD
172,286 miles. Ran last in 1992. Great candidate for a resto.
$2000 firm. Need gone yesterday. Located in Baltimore


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Re: [MBZ] whoa. the trouble I could get into with this...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah but not with the bucket

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On 5/8/19 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Seems high. I checked at the dealership a couple of years ago, and 
they were about $45,000 new.


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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:



https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/richmond-2012-mercedes-benz-sprinter/6884195915.html

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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:

> A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still
> good though.

Beep! Beep!  His horn went Beep! Beep! Beep!

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Re: [MBZ] whoa. the trouble I could get into with this...

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Seems high. I checked at the dealership a couple of years ago, and they
were about $45,000 new.

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Yo Andrew here you go, blue/blue TD

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 Bluetec emissions are v. low.

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> But, but but . . .  Andrew does not want to pollute the planet. Andrew
> wants an electric car.
>
>
> On 08/05/2019 2:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Crack price but looks nice
> >
> >
> >  ‎Nicholas Mulkey
> > <
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> > 
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> > 4 hrs
> > <
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/2195285167204877/?sale_post_id=2195285167204877>·
>
> >
> > 300TD
> > $2,000
> > Falls, PA
> >
> > For Sale 1983 300TD
> > 172,286 miles. Ran last in 1992. Great candidate for a resto.
> > $2000 firm. Need gone yesterday. Located in Baltimore
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Yo Andrew here you go, blue/blue TD

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But, but but . . .  Andrew does not want to pollute the planet. Andrew 
wants an electric car.



On 08/05/2019 2:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Crack price but looks nice


 ‎Nicholas Mulkey
‎/_to_/Mercedes
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4 hrs 
· 


300TD
$2,000
Falls, PA

For Sale 1983 300TD
172,286 miles. Ran last in 1992. Great candidate for a resto.
$2000 firm. Need gone yesterday. Located in Baltimore


 






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[MBZ] Yo Andrew here you go, blue/blue TD

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Crack price but looks nice


 ‎Nicholas Mulkey
 
‎/_to_/Mercedes
 W123 (North America)
 

4 hrs 
· 


300TD
$2,000
Falls, PA

For Sale 1983 300TD
172,286 miles. Ran last in 1992. Great candidate for a resto.
$2000 firm. Need gone yesterday. Located in Baltimore




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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

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A clone of the Cadillac-Nash Rambler joke from the '50's … still good
though.

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:33 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:52:10 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > A guy in a fast Mercedes was trying out his new ride at night when he
> > stopped to help an old fellow in a Prius who was broken down on the
> > side of the road. Neither one knew anything about the innards of a
> > Prius, so they tied the Prius to the Mercedes with a tow rope. Before
> > long the Mercedes driver completely forgot about the Prius he was
> > towing and started driving fast. The old fellow could barely keep the
> > Prius on the road, but no matter what he did, the Mercedes driver
> > ignored him.
> >
> > Before long they got caught in a speed trap and pulled over. The
> > highway patrolman radioed his buddy: "You gotta come up here and see
> > this", he said, "This Mercedes was doing 140 and an old guy in a Prius
> > was honking his horn and flashing his lights trying to pass him."
>
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Re: [MBZ] The Fast Prius

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On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:52:10 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
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> A guy in a fast Mercedes was trying out his new ride at night when he
> stopped to help an old fellow in a Prius who was broken down on the
> side of the road. Neither one knew anything about the innards of a
> Prius, so they tied the Prius to the Mercedes with a tow rope. Before
> long the Mercedes driver completely forgot about the Prius he was
> towing and started driving fast. The old fellow could barely keep the
> Prius on the road, but no matter what he did, the Mercedes driver
> ignored him.
> 
> Before long they got caught in a speed trap and pulled over. The
> highway patrolman radioed his buddy: "You gotta come up here and see
> this", he said, "This Mercedes was doing 140 and an old guy in a Prius
> was honking his horn and flashing his lights trying to pass him."

Thanks for the laugh.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

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He hehe!  good un!

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 1:48 PM:
Send him a note advising that you have a boat you are willing to trade 
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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

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How many wires go to the lift motor? I should think that if you can get 
to the motor wiring, you should be able to check to see if putting power 
on in one direction and then the other makes the window go up and down. 
At that point, it should be possible to wire in some form of switch or 
switches to make it operable while you look for a replacement switch.


Or, have they wired the whole thing into the computer so that you need 
to be an EE in order to figure it out?



On 08/05/2019 10:57 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Wow!  I love the 124/126 switches compared to the newer stuff.  I know 
on the 210 and maybe on the late 124s the window switches on the 
console come as a unit, not 4 individual switches.


Driver window just quit on the van.   I can hear the motor trying to 
go up, but no down.  Took out the switch unit.  tapped it upside down, 
on edge etc to see if I could clear crud and get it working.  Now this 
is where it gets crazy.  2^6 possibilities.


The driver door switch unit can have these possibilities:

Power mirrors / not
power folding mirrors / not
auto down front windows / not
opening rear windows / not
power open/close doors / not
opening rear vents / not

I bought the van because it did NOT have the stupid power doors. 
almost every/every van ordered for dealer inventory has power doors.

I believe this one was spec'd by the company who bought it.

It has

Power mirrors
power folding mirrors / not
auto down front windows
opening rear windows
power open/close doors / not
opening rear vents

so it is unusualCrockauto has about 30 choices for switches.   I did 
not see the right one.
 It is INSANE to have that many different parts for the same 
position.  They all fit in the same hole.




Unless I can find the right one on car-part.com I am screwed. There 
does not appear to be any way to take it aprt and replace one switch, 
ot to transfer contact fmor a rear window to the dead one.   Being 
over 7 yrs old, I am not sure if a stealer can even get the right 
switch.   If I could isolate the correct wires (not likely without a 
stealer only wiring diagram) I suppose I could bodge some additional 
switch for that window...

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[MBZ] The Fast Prius

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

A guy in a fast Mercedes was trying out his new ride at night when he stopped 
to help an old fellow in a Prius who was broken down on the side of the road. 
Neither one knew anything about the innards of a Prius, so they tied the Prius 
to the Mercedes with a tow rope. 
Before long the Mercedes driver completely forgot about the Prius he was towing 
and started driving fast. The old fellow could barely keep the Prius on the 
road, but no matter what he did, the Mercedes driver ignored him.

Before long they got caught in a speed trap and pulled over. The highway 
patrolman radioed his buddy: "You gotta come up here and see this", he said, 
"This Mercedes was doing 140 and an old guy in a Prius was honking his horn and 
flashing his lights trying to pass him."

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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

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Send him a note advising that you have a boat you are willing to trade 
but it was hit by a whale and needs a bow and running lights.




On 08/05/2019 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

no loballers i no what i got

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/

$1,800

84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was hit 
by a deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for bass 
boat, aluminum boat with motor , or will sell out right title in hand





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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Take 'im $180.  if he fusses, explain that he missed a zero.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 1:09 PM:

no loballers i no what i got

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/

$1,800

84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was hit 
by a deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for bass 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Calling Tin Man Mao

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We have Professor Popsicle.

*https://tinyurl.com/y38r2yog*
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On 08/05/2019 1:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I read this and think of you

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/wim-hof-cold-water-immersion-cure-ice-man-outdoor-swimming


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Re: [MBZ] OM606 woes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

did he check pressures, before, after?   If he did it right, can't make 
it worse, unless replacement spring is weaker than the original.  I 
suspect he lost a copper ring or two and it leaked.   That would make it 
worse.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 1:07 PM:

I would not try switching out the pressure relief valve.  A fellow with an
OM603 tried one, it made his idle worse.
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[MBZ] whoa. the trouble I could get into with this...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/richmond-2012-mercedes-benz-sprinter/6884195915.html

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Re: [MBZ] OM606 woes

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:03:22 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Not familiar with that model but could fuel feed and return lines be
> switched at tank? 

That was my thought, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

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On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:13:58 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So the deer hit it? With what?

A 16-pound sledge hammer. Either that or its 90-pound body.


Craig


> > On May 8, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > no loballers i no what i got
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/
> > 
> > $1,800
> > 
> > 84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was
> > hit by a deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for
> > bass boat, aluminum boat with motor , or will sell out right title in
> > hand

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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

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Oh lord...

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:14 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> So the deer hit it? With what?
>
> -D
>
> > On May 8, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > no loballers i no what i got
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/
> >
> > $1,800
> >
> > 84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was hit
> by a deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for bass
> boat, aluminum boat with motor , or will sell out right title in hand
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

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On Wed, 8 May 2019 10:57:42 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wow!  I love the 124/126 switches compared to the newer stuff.  I know 
> on the 210 and maybe on the late 124s the window switches on the
> console come as a unit, not 4 individual switches.

I did not take the console switches on our '94 E420 or '95 E320 apart
because they worked just fine. Our '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo had four
individual switches. I have not yet taken apart the switch assembly of our
'93 E300D/2.5 Turbo, though I will have to because the windows don't all
work properly -- and I will have to take the doors apart as well.


> Driver window just quit on the van.   I can hear the motor trying to go 
> up, but no down.  Took out the switch unit.  tapped it upside down, on 
> edge etc to see if I could clear crud and get it working.  Now this is 
> where it gets crazy.  2^6 possibilities.

2^6 = 64

What van is this? Maybe I haven't kept track and/or forgot.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Calling Tin Man Mao

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I iced religiously to hasten healing of both L and R rotator cuff
surgeries, along with using a Nikken magnet.  Currently icing lavishly and
using magnet on my partial right knee replacement.  Doc says I am WAY ahead
of schedule in terms of range of motion and lack of serious discomfort.

GO ICE
GO MAGNETS

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> I read this and think of you
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/wim-hof-cold-water-immersion-cure-ice-man-outdoor-swimming
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Re: [MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

So the deer hit it? With what?

-D

> On May 8, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> no loballers i no what i got
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/
> 
> $1,800
> 
> 84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was hit by a 
> deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for bass boat, 
> aluminum boat with motor , or will sell out right title in hand
> 
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[MBZ] Oh now it's Trade for fishing boat

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

no loballers i no what i got

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2311733485733559/

$1,800

84 Mercedes Benz 300d turbo diesel runs good and drives good . Was hit 
by a deer and needs radiator and head lights. No rust . Trade for bass 
boat, aluminum boat with motor , or will sell out right title in hand


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Re: [MBZ] OM606 woes

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I would not try switching out the pressure relief valve.  A fellow with an
OM603 tried one, it made his idle worse.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:00 AM Trampas Stern via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So 4 glow plugs broke off on my OM606,  I ended up drilling them out and
> replacing. Only one needed thread insert because I grabbed wrong tap to
> chase threads.   While in there I replaced the fuel lines and fuel filter.
> I prime the fuel filter by removing return fuel line and pressurizing tank
> until fuel comes out return line.   The car is still hard to start after
> fuel filter change.
>
> Anyway got car started and drive it for about 20 miles, would occasionally
> miss at idle like air still in lines.   Then the car lost all power and
> died.   Towed home and it was not getting fuel... So I was close to 1/4
> tank of fuel so I removed fuel screen in tank and checked, it is all good.
> I had cleaned out tank from coating failing already, but thought I would
> check. The only thing I can figure is that the lift pump died.   I removed
> lift pump and it will create vacuum on inlet and pressure on outlet, but
> still not pumping.
>
> New fuel pump will be here today and we will see, I am just having a hard
> time believing that fuel pump died at same time as I did everything else...
> However car does have 407k miles so fuel pump might be due for replacement.
>
> I can not think of anything else that would cause no fuel, unless cam in
> injection pump is worn not to have enough stroke.  I can pressurize return
> line and get car to run, so I know it is a fuel supply problem.  I have
> thought about putting an electric pump on the car but figured that the
> mechanical pump worked for 400k and if I get another 400k I will be happy.
>
> Also if anyone has an old fuel pressure relief valve from a OM617 they will
> sell me please let me know. I hear the new ones from Mercedes are junk. I
> have not checked my fuel pressure at injection pump to see if valve is
> working but figured it might be time to change or adjust.
>
> Thanks
> Trampas
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[MBZ] 1998 Mercedes-Benz E320 BEST OFFER TAKES IT.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/551009608640201/

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[MBZ] OT Calling Tin Man Mao

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I read this and think of you

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/wim-hof-cold-water-immersion-cure-ice-man-outdoor-swimming


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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

dunno.  it has two plugs. No PNP here or within 60 miles has a van this 
new.
I can't find a power door switch to see if the plugs are the same. Don't 
want to buy one just to try it.  (non-returnable)


So the choices I have are
Pay through the nose for a new one if the factory will even provide 
one.  $300+

Buy an new aftermarket one  $200+  IF i can find one.
Car-part.com for a used one$50 -$200
some kind of jerry rig additional switch.

And in the original rant, I didn't even include the newest way they make 
POS switches:  have to be programmed by the stealer to work





fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 12:54 PM:

Curley wrote:
Driver window just quit on the van.     Now this is where it
gets crazy.  2^6 possibilities.

Might it work to put in a switch unit with too many switches and
just ignore the extra?





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Re: [MBZ] OM606 woes

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Not familiar with that model but could fuel feed and return lines be switched 
at tank? 

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Trampas Stern via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:59 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Trampas Stern 
> Subject: [MBZ] OM606 woes
> 
> So 4 glow plugs broke off on my OM606,  I ended up drilling them out and
> replacing. Only one needed thread insert because I grabbed wrong tap to
> chase threads.   While in there I replaced the fuel lines and fuel
> filter.
> I prime the fuel filter by removing return fuel line and pressurizing
> tank
> until fuel comes out return line.   The car is still hard to start after
> fuel filter change.
> 
> Anyway got car started and drive it for about 20 miles, would
> occasionally
> miss at idle like air still in lines.   Then the car lost all power and
> died.   Towed home and it was not getting fuel... So I was close to 1/4
> tank of fuel so I removed fuel screen in tank and checked, it is all
> good.
> I had cleaned out tank from coating failing already, but thought I would
> check. The only thing I can figure is that the lift pump died.   I
> removed
> lift pump and it will create vacuum on inlet and pressure on outlet, but
> still not pumping.
> 
> New fuel pump will be here today and we will see, I am just having a
> hard time believing that fuel pump died at same time as I did everything
> else...
> However car does have 407k miles so fuel pump might be due for
> replacement.
> 
> I can not think of anything else that would cause no fuel, unless cam in
> injection pump is worn not to have enough stroke.  I can pressurize
> return line and get car to run, so I know it is a fuel supply problem.
> I have thought about putting an electric pump on the car but figured
> that the mechanical pump worked for 400k and if I get another 400k I
> will be happy.
> 
> Also if anyone has an old fuel pressure relief valve from a OM617 they
> will sell me please let me know. I hear the new ones from Mercedes are
> junk. I have not checked my fuel pressure at injection pump to see if
> valve is working but figured it might be time to change or adjust.
> 
> Thanks
> Trampas
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It DOES have a new engine wiring harness, right?

Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 12:48 PM:

Sounds good. Better than sticking another used part on it.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Sounds good. Better than sticking another used part on it.

On Wed, May 8, 2019, 9:36 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> This is NOT something you want to DIY. While you could rewire the harness,
> there are interior bits you can’t fix if bad or questionable that a
> rebuilder could/would.
>
> I can dig up the info on the guy in AL. He sells on eBay, too. Really,
> really good work, and quick turnaround, too. I’ve used him several times
> and always been pleased.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 8, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped
> at a light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring,
> smoking.  I managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I was
> going.  Shut it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the wiring, it
> has likely all gone to shite on the throttle bodies and ignition bits and
> whatever else. Just have not take the time to check it out.
> >
> > There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the
> 600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but not
> the actual rebuilding/resoldering.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >> uh ohThose had the same self destructing wire insulation as the
> rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it
> up, the insulation fell out like dust.
> >>
> >> I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car.
> I dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They
> stink too.
> >>
> >> I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of
> tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:
> >>> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> >>> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS
> radio
> >>> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> Driver window just quit on the van.     Now this is where it
> gets crazy.  2^6 possibilities.

Might it work to put in a switch unit with too many switches and
just ignore the extra?

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Re: [MBZ] Pretty color; stupid price (420 SEL)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sold for $25k.  Shades of "irrational exuberance".

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 10:00 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Burgundy, or whatever the official name is, is a great color on a 126,
> and also  on a 123.   At one time we had matching burgundy 300SDL, 300D,
> and 380SL.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 5/7/19 10:14 AM:
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-420sel-7/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-05-07
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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I don't see any way to get contact cleaner to the contacts.

Yeah, I may be able to see the motor wires If I pull it out again.

Through car-part, I found a yard in SC that had the switch for $30 but 
they won't ship it.   SO I put out a RFQ on Car-part.com


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 12:06 PM:

If you can reach the window motor wiring (observe the colors / marking),
you'll know which wires on the switch end that you need to trouble-shoot.

Did you rinse out the switch with contact cleaner and operate a hundred
times or so?
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Re: [MBZ] Window switches

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

If you can reach the window motor wiring (observe the colors / marking),
you'll know which wires on the switch end that you need to trouble-shoot.

Did you rinse out the switch with contact cleaner and operate a hundred
times or so?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 11:58 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Wow!  I love the 124/126 switches compared to the newer stuff.  I know
> on the 210 and maybe on the late 124s the window switches on the console
> come as a unit, not 4 individual switches.
>
> Driver window just quit on the van.   I can hear the motor trying to go
> up, but no down.  Took out the switch unit.  tapped it upside down, on
> edge etc to see if I could clear crud and get it working.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT are these things really this cheap?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

$10k is not cheap for 20 years old. 
I'm not sure about the class C (which tend to have better resale than class A), 
but there are a lot of big block class As that got new engines at 40-80k miles. 

It's apparently a hard life for the drivetrain. Those Vixen/BMWs were blowing 
engines left and right, but the 524td wasn't exactly a durable diesel car 
either. I wonder what a Vixen with a OM602 or OM603 would be like. (or, now 
that they're 15 years old, how about an OM648?)

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 MERCEDES E320 WAGON,Savannah, GA,$2,000

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I asked the dude:  It has 150k miles.  Not 4k.   Still a pretty decent 
looking wagon for the .


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 10:04 AM:

cheap wagon

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2345809362345277/




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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

This is NOT something you want to DIY. While you could rewire the harness, 
there are interior bits you can’t fix if bad or questionable that a rebuilder 
could/would.

I can dig up the info on the guy in AL. He sells on eBay, too. Really, really 
good work, and quick turnaround, too. I’ve used him several times and always 
been pleased.

-D

> On May 8, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped at a 
> light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring, smoking.  I 
> managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I was going.  Shut 
> it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the wiring, it has likely all 
> gone to shite on the throttle bodies and ignition bits and whatever else. 
> Just have not take the time to check it out.
> 
> There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the 
> 600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but not the 
> actual rebuilding/resoldering.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> uh ohThose had the same self destructing wire insulation as the rest 
>> of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it up, the 
>> insulation fell out like dust.
>> 
>> I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. I 
>> dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They stink 
>> too.
>> 
>> I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of tiny 
>> wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.
>> 
>> 
>> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:
>>> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
>>> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
>>> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Window switches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Wow!  I love the 124/126 switches compared to the newer stuff.  I know 
on the 210 and maybe on the late 124s the window switches on the console 
come as a unit, not 4 individual switches.


Driver window just quit on the van.   I can hear the motor trying to go 
up, but no down.  Took out the switch unit.  tapped it upside down, on 
edge etc to see if I could clear crud and get it working.  Now this is 
where it gets crazy.  2^6 possibilities.


The driver door switch unit can have these possibilities:

Power mirrors / not
power folding mirrors / not
auto down front windows / not
opening rear windows / not
power open/close doors / not
opening rear vents / not

I bought the van because it did NOT have the stupid power doors. almost 
every/every van ordered for dealer inventory has power doors.

I believe this one was spec'd by the company who bought it.

It has

Power mirrors
power folding mirrors / not
auto down front windows
opening rear windows
power open/close doors / not
opening rear vents

so it is unusualCrockauto has about 30 choices for switches.   I did not 
see the right one.
 It is INSANE to have that many different parts for the same 
position.  They all fit in the same hole.




Unless I can find the right one on car-part.com I am screwed.   There 
does not appear to be any way to take it aprt and replace one switch, ot 
to transfer contact fmor a rear window to the dead one.   Being over 7 
yrs old, I am not sure if a stealer can even get the right switch.   If 
I could isolate the correct wires (not likely without a stealer only 
wiring diagram) I suppose I could bodge some additional switch for that 
window...

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Re: [MBZ] beautiful 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300 SDL,Savannah, GA $6,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah probably broken odo

$4k might be more realistic if it is in good shape other than the paint

--FT

On 5/8/19 11:27 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Numbers are hard for some people,  Price is too high, mileage is too low.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 11:16 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


134k mi, some paint issues but overall looks pretty nice.  Trunk badge
only says "TURBO"???  is that right?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2348051038810095/

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped 
at a light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring, 
smoking.  I managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I 
was going.  Shut it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the 
wiring, it has likely all gone to shite on the throttle bodies and 
ignition bits and whatever else. Just have not take the time to check it 
out.


There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the 
600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but 
not the actual rebuilding/resoldering.


--FT

On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
uh oh    Those had the same self destructing wire insulation as 
the rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and 
opened it up, the insulation fell out like dust.


I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. 
I dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   
They stink too.


I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of 
tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.





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Re: [MBZ] beautiful 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300 SDL,Savannah, GA $6,500

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Numbers are hard for some people,  Price is too high, mileage is too low.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 11:16 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 134k mi, some paint issues but overall looks pretty nice.  Trunk badge
> only says "TURBO"???  is that right?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2348051038810095/
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 MERCEDES E320 WAGON,Savannah, GA,$2,000

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Only driven 4600 miles, but they were some REALLY HARD miles
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> cheap wagon
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2345809362345277/
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[MBZ] OT are these things really this cheap?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No interior pics but it looks pretty good and low miles.  probably sucks 
fuel at a prodigious rate.


1998 Ford Coachman. Class C Motorhome. 30 ft. 39000 miles V10. 6 new 
tires. $10500.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/304701050471775/

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[MBZ] beautiful 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300 SDL,Savannah, GA $6,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

134k mi, some paint issues but overall looks pretty nice.  Trunk badge 
only says "TURBO"???  is that right?


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2348051038810095/

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[MBZ] not bad 99 E300 $1950

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2009476269162688/

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[MBZ] looks nice, crack money

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/bluffton-diesel-mercedes-e300/6884089085.html

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[MBZ] 2001 MERCEDES E320 WAGON,Savannah, GA,$2,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

cheap wagon

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2345809362345277/

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

uh oh    Those had the same self destructing wire insulation as the 
rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it 
up, the insulation fell out like dust.


I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. I 
dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They 
stink too.


I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of 
tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

This involves sending it to the guy in Alabama that rebuilds them and spending 
the $200 or so to make sure it’s 100%. It’s not a DIY repair.

-D

> On May 8, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
>> replaced, and where did it come from?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
>> to.
>>> I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
>>> took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
>> else
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
 something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
 computer.  Does it throw a code?
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
 when
> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
>> die.
> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
>> again.
> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> 
> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
>> replaced, and where did it come from?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
>> to.
>>> I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
>>> took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
>> else
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
 something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
 computer.  Does it throw a code?
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
 when
> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
>> die.
> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
>> again.
> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
 the
> upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
> Anybody had this happen before?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty
>> much
>> a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
>> perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
>> boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
>> bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
>> not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them
>> but I
>> guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
>> like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
>> sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
>> the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
>> hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.
>> Had
>> a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
>> hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
>> they would be a (good) surprise.
>> 
>> I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
>> storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to
>> fire
>> it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
>> 
>> Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty
>> on
>> the side, 21k GVW.
>> 
>> The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
>> parts are readily 

Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
> replaced, and where did it come from?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
> to.
> > I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
> > took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
> else
> > with it.
> >
> > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
> >> something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
> >> computer.  Does it throw a code?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
> >> when
> >>> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
> die.
> >>> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
> again.
> >>> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> >>> smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
> >> the
> >>> upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
> >>> Anybody had this happen before?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty
> much
>  a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
>  perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
>  boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
>  bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
>  not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them
> but I
>  guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
>  like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
>  sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
>  the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
>  hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.
> Had
>  a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
>  hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
>  they would be a (good) surprise.
> 
>  I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
>  storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to
> fire
>  it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
> 
>  Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty
> on
>  the side, 21k GVW.
> 
>  The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
>  parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
>  Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.
> 
>  NHTSA have a VIN decoder!
> 
>  Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC
>  
> 
>  Vehicle Type: TRUCK
> 
>  Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)
> 
>  Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
> 
>  Model: L1116
> 
>  Body Class: Truck
> 
>  Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 -
> 11,794
>  kg)
>  Axles:
>  Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
>  Axle Configuration:
>  Drive Type:
>  Cylinders: 6
>  Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
>  Engine Model: OM 352A
>  Engine Brake (HP): 164
> 
>  Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
>  bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it
> out
>  and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
>  furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old
> sh*t).
> 
>  --FT
> 
>  On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> > It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats
> a
> > heater, or air conditioner?
> > The shifter is wy down between the seats...
> >
> > The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
> > intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
> > worth but having a spare engine appeals...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >>
> 

Re: [MBZ] Battery time

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 08 May 2019 07:52:28 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks Craig, I'll have to check that out.
> 
> Last time I sold a group 49 battery to the recycler, they paid $40.  A
> much better deal than the $15 core that home despot offered.

And that is good to know, too.


Craig

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[MBZ] OM606 woes

[Trampas Stern via Mercedes]

So 4 glow plugs broke off on my OM606,  I ended up drilling them out and
replacing. Only one needed thread insert because I grabbed wrong tap to
chase threads.   While in there I replaced the fuel lines and fuel filter.
I prime the fuel filter by removing return fuel line and pressurizing tank
until fuel comes out return line.   The car is still hard to start after
fuel filter change.

Anyway got car started and drive it for about 20 miles, would occasionally
miss at idle like air still in lines.   Then the car lost all power and
died.   Towed home and it was not getting fuel... So I was close to 1/4
tank of fuel so I removed fuel screen in tank and checked, it is all good.
I had cleaned out tank from coating failing already, but thought I would
check. The only thing I can figure is that the lift pump died.   I removed
lift pump and it will create vacuum on inlet and pressure on outlet, but
still not pumping.

New fuel pump will be here today and we will see, I am just having a hard
time believing that fuel pump died at same time as I did everything else...
However car does have 407k miles so fuel pump might be due for replacement.

I can not think of anything else that would cause no fuel, unless cam in
injection pump is worn not to have enough stroke.  I can pressurize return
line and get car to run, so I know it is a fuel supply problem.  I have
thought about putting an electric pump on the car but figured that the
mechanical pump worked for 400k and if I get another 400k I will be happy.

Also if anyone has an old fuel pressure relief valve from a OM617 they will
sell me please let me know. I hear the new ones from Mercedes are junk. I
have not checked my fuel pressure at injection pump to see if valve is
working but figured it might be time to change or adjust.

Thanks
Trampas
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 valve cover breather fix

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I think it'll be post 2003. My 98 doesn't have that style, they changed engine 
design significantly in 2003.
Curt

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  On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:24 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:   VW TDI crankcase breather... phone call to FLAPS or STealer should 
yield a
working part number quickly.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:27 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> cool!  That is good to know.  I have a bad valve cover or two.  With
> that they can be used again.  If anyone finds a VW part number, I'd like
> to know.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/7/19 4:50 PM:
> >
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/395618-0m-603-971-cold-starts-right-up-then-8.html
> >
> > Interesting!  This guy claims (in a post near the end of the thread) he
> reduced oil consumption by fitting a crank case ventilation valve from a VW.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OM603 valve cover breather fix

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Here's the original post with a little more info:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3859654-post160.html

Here are the part numbers:

Puck:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PCV-VALVE-99-04-VW-JETTA-GOLF-BEETLE-TDI-DIESEL-1-9L-028129101E-/252771586421?hash=item3ada5c5175


Grommet:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vw-Mk3-Golf-Jetta-2-0-1-9-TDI-PCV-Valve-Cover-Grommet-/362177391938?hash=item5453746d42


I'm going to order the parts and give this a try.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Battery time

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Craig, I'll have to check that out.

Last time I sold a group 49 battery to the recycler, they paid $40.  A much 
better deal than the $15 core that home despot offered.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On May 7, 2019 8:21:26 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>
>I got my last battery at Pep Boys, which was a better deal than HD or
>WW.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OM603 valve cover breather fix

[G Mann via Mercedes]

VW TDI crankcase breather... phone call to FLAPS or STealer should yield a
working part number quickly.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:27 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> cool!  That is good to know.   I have a bad valve cover or two.  With
> that they can be used again.  If anyone finds a VW part number, I'd like
> to know.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/7/19 4:50 PM:
> >
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/395618-0m-603-971-cold-starts-right-up-then-8.html
> >
> > Interesting!  This guy claims (in a post near the end of the thread) he
> reduced oil consumption by fitting a crank case ventilation valve from a VW.
>
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