Re: [MBZ] OM602.962 Serpentine belt tensioner

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 04:07:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Meyle has a German name, made in China.

Hm ...


> Some one else may have a more learned opinion. 

May they speak up.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Part Supplier in North Carolina [AND California]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 22:15:04 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> In searching for the belt tensioner of my last email, I discovered
> 
> JoeTLC at 

I should have given complete information, should I not?

http://www.joetlc.com/-c-481.html
336-591-1108
Meadows, North Carolina


I also discovered

https://www.carpartsdiscount.com
CarPartsDiscount.com
P.O. Box 940881
Simi Valley, CA 93094

For those of you in California.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - Dumping ground

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

SWMBA is in a tizzy to replace the POS y2k Cheep Ground Turkey that she would 
not invest a penny into making a safe vehicle.  Now the thing is an unknown as 
to whether it will function from day to day.  No surprise, but I keep my mouth 
shut.

The selection of viable vehicle here is overly limited.  I grow very tired of 
looking at the same set of cars and SUV day after day.  I did take a test drive 
in one car, but it sold long before SWMBA could find time to get to the dealer 
to make a deal.  Parking lot tested a bunch more cars that fit the 
claustrophobic parameter she has set out.  That means I sat in the cars in each 
available position to see if I actually could fit and be able to drive without 
crippling pain after half an hour.  There are almost no cars that fit 
requirements.  When did leg room and foot space get deleted?

I did figure out the Canada and Alaska seem to be the dumping ground for green 
vehicles.  Not the battery or hybrid, but colored cars.  There were a great 
many green examples of cars in Vancouver BC on my most recent visit, no matter 
what the marque.  There seems to be an excess of green in all manner and hue 
available in ANC as well.  Per Capita, green is a very popular color here.  
Trying to find a green car in PNW was akin to M$ making a stable OS and 
distributing it free.


clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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[MBZ] Mercedes Part Supplier in North Carolina

[Craig via Mercedes]

In searching for the belt tensioner of my last email, I discovered

JoeTLC at 

They have parts in the following Categories:
Audi / Porsche / VW
BMW
Chevy / GM
Dodge
Ford
HD Truck
Honda
Hyundai
Isuzu
Jaguar
Kia
Mazda
Mercedes Benz
Mitsubishi
Nissan
Non Auto
Rover
RV / Camper
Saab
Smart
Subaru
Toyota
Volvo
Webers
Wiring Harness

Perhaps you guys in South Carolina and Florida might want to try them.
When we move to North Carolina, I definitely will, since I will likely
be living within 50 miles of them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OM602.962 Serpentine belt tensioner

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I would probably trust INA, or Febi. Meyle has a German name, made in China. 
Some one else may have a more learned opinion. 

Rick


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[MBZ] OM602.962 Serpentine belt tensioner

[Craig via Mercedes]

So I find I need a serpentine belt tensioner for our '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo.

The old part says it's 601 202 06 28, but I cannot find that on the 'net.

I went to the on-line EPC and finally found the engine parts at
http://mbepc.net/1/m/om/502/602962 and the BELT TIGHTENER, ENGINE COOLING
SYSTEM Schema at http://mbepc.net/1/m/om/502/602962/0/20/045.

[Thank you, Dan, for mentioning it in one of your emails!]

There are multiple parts on that schema, but the one which looks the
closest is A 601 200 17 73. That has several hits. Some of the parts are
Uro (which is the only thing Rock Auto has and which I reject out-of-hand,
others are Febi, Meyle, Ina (which, on Pelican Parts, has a higher rating
then the first Febi or Meyle) and even genuine Mercedes if you want to pay
a premium.

I'm looking at Auto Haus Arizona (Phoenix) and Pelican Parts (Harbor
City, CA) since they are closer to me than others.

So what brand of parts should I go for?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Dan  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the
> > ball?

Nope.  No standard height.  But my experience is that 14 to 20
inches [35 to 50 cm] from the ground to the top of the ball is the
most likely range.  And I prefer the ball a bit high more often
than I want it low.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Your go to resource for all things related to this is
> etrailer.com.

I like ETrailer - good info, text transcriptions of their
information videos, real information on their product - sometimes
more than the manufacturers websit, helpful people,  and if you
happen to be near St. Louis MO, the have a will-call desk.   They
don't always have what I need, but I do try to take my business to
them first.

1-7/8, 2, and 2-5/16 are the ball sizes.  U-Haul uses only 2", I'm
pretty sure.  2 inch balls can be rated for quite a range in load
capacity, so be sure to get one "big" enough for your loads.

Also make sure the ball shank/bolt diameter matches the hole in
the ball mount. There are bushings to allow mounting in a hole
that's too big.  I think shank sizes vary from 5/8" to 1.5".

Something like this can be mounted either way so it has a bit of a
of a drop or a very slight rise.
https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/D-4.html

Here is a kit with ball, mount, pin, etc.
https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/C45534.html

I like putting a rubber cap over the ball for storage 'cause I
always keep the ball well greased.
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Tow-Ready/42250.html



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Re: [MBZ] 1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SE for sale

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Fun cars, but unless it's rust free, not worth the effort or money to restore.

Mine was a blast, but was badly rusted from the beltline down -- doors, floors, 
trunk, fenders.  Never got better than 17 mpg on the highway (at 80 mph), in 
normal driving it was more like 12.

Lots of upkeep too -- 27 grease fittings that need greasing every couple months 
or they squeak.  Terrible AC to, it was really a ThermoKing or some other 
aftermarket that barely kept the car cool, and the heater valves and levers are 
always dead.

I only paid $50 for mine, so it was worth it, but I'd not bother to restore one 
unless it was a 6.3, and I'm not wealthy enough for that.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I have one of those dell things that has all the CD manuals living inside.  It 
took about 30 minutes of charge to get the battery to wake enough to charge and 
power on.

clay


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in the 
> bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to fire it up and 
> when I plug in the charger, the green charge light comes up but the laptop 
> does not seem to power on at all.  I tried removing the battery and RAM and 
> holding the power button down for 60 seconds as this sometimes works on 
> Lenovo laptops.  Any ideas?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would have figured it would run without a battery at all plugged into its 
charger. Maybe not. I know the battery only held a charge for a few minutes the 
last time I used it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dead battery, might not come alive until you get a replacement. Those things 
> have all kinds of funky power management features, although I have had old 
> laptops with dead batteries that are quite happy to run without a battery, or 
> with the dead battery in it.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/11/19 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in the 
>> bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to fire it up 
>> and when I plug in the charger, the green charge light comes up but the 
>> laptop does not seem to power on at all.  I tried removing the battery and 
>> RAM and holding the power button down for 60 seconds as this sometimes works 
>> on Lenovo laptops. Any ideas?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Dead battery, might not come alive until you get a replacement. Those 
things have all kinds of funky power management features, although I 
have had old laptops with dead batteries that are quite happy to run 
without a battery, or with the dead battery in it.


--FT

On 7/11/19 7:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in 
the bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to 
fire it up and when I plug in the charger, the green charge light 
comes up but the laptop does not seem to power on at all.  I tried 
removing the battery and RAM and holding the power button down for 60 
seconds as this sometimes works on Lenovo laptops. Any ideas?



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Re: [MBZ] OT - only in OK?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My son just sent me that.  Looks like I a guy I know here who has 
probably done something similar.  In any case, he would probably be fun 
to have at a party.  His girlfriend too.  Hide your good whiskey though.


--FT

On 7/11/19 8:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb and I live in a rather unique State - this happened 10 miles north of
me:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/uranium-rattlesnake-and-whiskey-found-during-oklahoma-traffic-stop/ar-AAEbZPj?li=BBnbcA1


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Re: [MBZ] 1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SE for sale

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:04:19 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> There was a pic attached, guess it got stripped.  It was posted on
> their local forum.
> 
> Oh, here it is, I found it.
> 
> https://aroundkiawah.simplelists.com/classifieds/msg/11624183
> 
> They don't make it easy -- outsiders and all you know


https://aroundkiawah.simplelists.com/classifieds/cache/11624183/2.2.jpeg


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SE for sale

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There was a pic attached, guess it got stripped.  It was posted on their 
local forum.


Oh, here it is, I found it.

https://aroundkiawah.simplelists.com/classifieds/msg/11624183

They don't make it easy -- outsiders and all you know

--FT

On 7/11/19 6:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Got any pictures, or is this a CL ad or something?

-D



On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I've seen this car around, it is gorgeous and a driver not a garage queen.  
From the luxury gated lifestyle resort community down the road, little above my 
price range but nice...

4 door sedan
94,800 Mileage
All original
Excellent shape
Recently driven from northern NH to Kiawah with no problems

$14,950 or best offer

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[MBZ] OT - only in OK?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Kaleb and I live in a rather unique State - this happened 10 miles north of
me:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/uranium-rattlesnake-and-whiskey-found-during-oklahoma-traffic-stop/ar-AAEbZPj?li=BBnbcA1

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Randy wrote:
> Uh, Oh - you are losing touch when you start suggesting that
> immunization is more of a threat than nuclear waste

Immunization is a done deal, for the most part.  You do the
immunization and you are set for life.  45-years ago my nephew was
born and remains severe autism perhaps due to immunization.  No way to
tell. Radiation? - maybe not as bad as we have been told.  Isn't that
the whole reason Curley put up GlenBeck? - listen to the last half
hour 09JUL.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Or, take the battery out and try it that way?

I had one old laptop that looked like it wouldn't turn on, until you looked
at the drive light blinking - then connect it to an external monitor, and
you find out that it's the screen that's dead . . . YMMV.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:28 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:05:36 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
> > I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in
> > the bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to fire
> > it up and when I plug in the charger, the green charge light comes up
> > but the laptop does not seem to power on at all.  I tried removing the
> > battery and RAM and holding the power button down for 60 seconds as
> > this sometimes works on Lenovo laptops.  Any ideas?
>
> Leave the charger on it for awhile?
>
>
> Craig
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:05:36 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in 
> the bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to fire 
> it up and when I plug in the charger, the green charge light comes up 
> but the laptop does not seem to power on at all.  I tried removing the 
> battery and RAM and holding the power button down for 60 seconds as
> this sometimes works on Lenovo laptops.  Any ideas?

Leave the charger on it for awhile?


Craig

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[MBZ] OT Dell D630 wont turn on

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a Dell D630 that is my old SDS system that has been sitting in 
the bottom drawer of my tool box for several months.  I decided to fire 
it up and when I plug in the charger, the green charge light comes up 
but the laptop does not seem to power on at all.  I tried removing the 
battery and RAM and holding the power button down for 60 seconds as this 
sometimes works on Lenovo laptops.  Any ideas?



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Re: [MBZ] 1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SE for sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got any pictures, or is this a CL ad or something?

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 6:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've seen this car around, it is gorgeous and a driver not a garage queen.  
> From the luxury gated lifestyle resort community down the road, little above 
> my price range but nice...
> 
> 4 door sedan
> 94,800 Mileage
> All original
> Excellent shape
> Recently driven from northern NH to Kiawah with no problems
> 
> $14,950 or best offer
> 
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[MBZ] 1971 Mercedes Benz 280 SE for sale

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I've seen this car around, it is gorgeous and a driver not a garage 
queen.  From the luxury gated lifestyle resort community down the road, 
little above my price range but nice...


4 door sedan
94,800 Mileage
All original
Excellent shape
Recently driven from northern NH to Kiawah with no problems

$14,950 or best offer

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There ya go.

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This ML I have has 300some kmi on it but the PO told me the engine only had 
> 60kmi on it, so if I go to sell it I will say it is a "survivor with only 
> 60kmi on a million-mile Mercedes engine!"
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 7/11/19 5:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> So my point is, does that mean you can turn back the odometer to 275k and 
>> call it good?
>> 
>> No. The chassis has 374k on it. Leave it there and disclose the miles on the 
>> engine if you wish.
>> 
>> Again, I fall back to the logic of if I put a crate engine or a rebuilt 
>> engine in the car, would that justify turning the odometer back to 0?
>> 
>> Not hardly.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My odometer reads 374K but the engine has about 275K.  So what?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:18 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
> On July 11, 2019 at 3:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the
 clock? If they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll
 the odometer back to zero, right?
 
 Unfortunately I've seen that done.
 And on C/L, I've seen cars advertised as "125k miles on engine" with no
 disclosure in the ad of total miles.
 
 What gets me is some of the ones that tell the whole story:
 At 65k miles, the engine was replaced with a 15k mile engine from a
 junkyard...
 (ok, now tell me why I'd want to buy a car that was previously owned by
 the sort of person who ruins an engine in 65k miles)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This ML I have has 300some kmi on it but the PO told me the engine only 
had 60kmi on it, so if I go to sell it I will say it is a "survivor with 
only 60kmi on a million-mile Mercedes engine!"


--FT

On 7/11/19 5:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

So my point is, does that mean you can turn back the odometer to 275k and call 
it good?

No. The chassis has 374k on it. Leave it there and disclose the miles on the 
engine if you wish.

Again, I fall back to the logic of if I put a crate engine or a rebuilt engine 
in the car, would that justify turning the odometer back to 0?

Not hardly.

-D



On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

My odometer reads 374K but the engine has about 275K.  So what?

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:18 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On July 11, 2019 at 3:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the

clock? If they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll
the odometer back to zero, right?

Unfortunately I've seen that done.
And on C/L, I've seen cars advertised as "125k miles on engine" with no
disclosure in the ad of total miles.

What gets me is some of the ones that tell the whole story:
At 65k miles, the engine was replaced with a 15k mile engine from a
junkyard...
(ok, now tell me why I'd want to buy a car that was previously owned by
the sort of person who ruins an engine in 65k miles)

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So my point is, does that mean you can turn back the odometer to 275k and call 
it good?

No. The chassis has 374k on it. Leave it there and disclose the miles on the 
engine if you wish.

Again, I fall back to the logic of if I put a crate engine or a rebuilt engine 
in the car, would that justify turning the odometer back to 0?

Not hardly.

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My odometer reads 374K but the engine has about 275K.  So what?
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:18 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On July 11, 2019 at 3:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the
>> clock? If they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll
>> the odometer back to zero, right?
>> 
>> Unfortunately I've seen that done.
>> And on C/L, I've seen cars advertised as "125k miles on engine" with no
>> disclosure in the ad of total miles.
>> 
>> What gets me is some of the ones that tell the whole story:
>> At 65k miles, the engine was replaced with a 15k mile engine from a
>> junkyard...
>> (ok, now tell me why I'd want to buy a car that was previously owned by
>> the sort of person who ruins an engine in 65k miles)
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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My odometer reads 374K but the engine has about 275K.  So what?

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:18 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On July 11, 2019 at 3:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the
> clock? If they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll
> the odometer back to zero, right?
>
> Unfortunately I've seen that done.
> And on C/L, I've seen cars advertised as "125k miles on engine" with no
> disclosure in the ad of total miles.
>
> What gets me is some of the ones that tell the whole story:
> At 65k miles, the engine was replaced with a 15k mile engine from a
> junkyard...
> (ok, now tell me why I'd want to buy a car that was previously owned by
> the sort of person who ruins an engine in 65k miles)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:31:07 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It needs these, WAY more than tires. 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/BAZIC-Sale-Sign-Sales-2-Line/dp/B00CGSF4F0/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=for+sale+sign=1562876944=gateway=for+=8-6

It's interesting the price for three is more than three times the price
for one ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

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It needs these, WAY more than tires. 

https://www.amazon.com/BAZIC-Sale-Sign-Sales-2-Line/dp/B00CGSF4F0/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=for+sale+sign=1562876944=gateway=for+=8-6

  

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Re: [MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yeah I told her to hold off on getting tires and other stuff done that 
is not necessary quite yet.  She is quite excited that I am dealing with 
it and has absolved me of responsibility, so that is in my favor!  
Gaining points!


--FT

On 7/11/19 3:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 11/07/2019 2:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:42:15 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Car is throwing a code that suggests the torque converter clutch
solenoid is wonky.  Mech also noted fluid was dirty.  I am going to
order a solenoid kit, fluid, and filter, and change that stuff, looks
fairly easy and there is actually a very detailed illustrated repair
manual available for this particular tranny. While the internals might
be going bad, this will at least address the particular code issue,
maybe, and won't cost a lot or be a big job.  That is the first
suggested fix, with escalating to replace the torque converter or
transmission.

May you not have to escalate!


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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
Craig said:


>Hi. I'm Craig and I'm a Mercedesaholic.


 Nah. While you may "have to have a Mercedes", you currently have only one. And 
you have large building, and as far as I can tell, you don't feel the urge to 
rescue every one you see for sale that, in your estimation, is a bargain. I 
have that urge. It sucks. 

  
 I had to resist buying a bargain 210 diesel yesterday. It's gone, thankfully, 
but I'm regretting not calling on it. 


That is what recovery is about, I guess. Impulse resistance.  I hope to be more 
like Dan and Dimitri and Jaime one day, and actually get things done on the 
ones I have, instead of buying, er thinking of buying every stray Mercedes that 
I see for sale. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

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On 11/07/2019 2:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:42:15 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Car is throwing a code that suggests the torque converter clutch
solenoid is wonky.  Mech also noted fluid was dirty.  I am going to
order a solenoid kit, fluid, and filter, and change that stuff, looks
fairly easy and there is actually a very detailed illustrated repair
manual available for this particular tranny. While the internals might
be going bad, this will at least address the particular code issue,
maybe, and won't cost a lot or be a big job.  That is the first
suggested fix, with escalating to replace the torque converter or
transmission.

May you not have to escalate!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 15:42:15 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Car is throwing a code that suggests the torque converter clutch 
> solenoid is wonky.  Mech also noted fluid was dirty.  I am going to 
> order a solenoid kit, fluid, and filter, and change that stuff, looks 
> fairly easy and there is actually a very detailed illustrated repair 
> manual available for this particular tranny. While the internals might 
> be going bad, this will at least address the particular code issue, 
> maybe, and won't cost a lot or be a big job.  That is the first 
> suggested fix, with escalating to replace the torque converter or 
> transmission.

May you not have to escalate!


Craig

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[MBZ] OT Rogue tranny update

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Car is throwing a code that suggests the torque converter clutch 
solenoid is wonky.  Mech also noted fluid was dirty.  I am going to 
order a solenoid kit, fluid, and filter, and change that stuff, looks 
fairly easy and there is actually a very detailed illustrated repair 
manual available for this particular tranny. While the internals might 
be going bad, this will at least address the particular code issue, 
maybe, and won't cost a lot or be a big job.  That is the first 
suggested fix, with escalating to replace the torque converter or 
transmission.


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:53:51 -0400 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> > Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.
> >
> > They have guides and product selectors to help.
> 
> Agreed, they are good.

Thank you, Allan, for the confirmation.


> They also supplied a wiring harness that plugged in to the factory
> taillight connectors, so no cutting/splicing wires, and it has an
> independent power source so the car's electronics are unaffected.

I was thinking of mentioning these after I sent my previous message.

They have a LOT of other stuff related to trailers, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

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> On July 11, 2019 at 3:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:

> Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the clock? If 
> they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll the odometer 
> back to zero, right?

Unfortunately I've seen that done. 
And on C/L, I've seen cars advertised as "125k miles on engine" with no 
disclosure in the ad of total miles. 

What gets me is some of the ones that tell the whole story:
At 65k miles, the engine was replaced with a 15k mile engine from a junkyard...
(ok, now tell me why I'd want to buy a car that was previously owned by the 
sort of person who ruins an engine in 65k miles)

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True, but changing the odometer to match the engine’s mileage rather than the 
total mileage of the chassis is what I would considering misleading, whether 
the car is exempt from mileage disclosure or not.

Would you prefer to buy a car with 160k on the clock or 274k on the clock? If 
they put a crate engine in it then logic would dictate they roll the odometer 
back to zero, right?

-D


  
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On July 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "The 6-digit odometer was changed from 274,433 to 160,000 in June 2018 to 
>> reportedly match the mileage of the replacement engine.”
>> 
>> Odometer fraud?
> 
> Not fraud if it's disclosed as not actual mileage. 
> And in most, if not all, states, there's no such thing as odometer fraud if 
> the car is over ten years old. I learned that the hard way when I bought a 16 
> year old one owner car with 84k certified miles on it, and the title came 
> back with EXEMPT as the mileage. And I hadn't thought to photocopy the 
> original title before I turned it in. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

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> On July 11, 2019 at 3:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> "The 6-digit odometer was changed from 274,433 to 160,000 in June 2018 to 
> reportedly match the mileage of the replacement engine.”
> 
> Odometer fraud?

Not fraud if it's disclosed as not actual mileage. 
And in most, if not all, states, there's no such thing as odometer fraud if the 
car is over ten years old. I learned that the hard way when I bought a 16 year 
old one owner car with 84k certified miles on it, and the title came back with 
EXEMPT as the mileage. And I hadn't thought to photocopy the original title 
before I turned it in. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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> On July 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> IIRC, etrailer.com has sleeves which will allow you to use an item meant
> for a less than 2" receiver in a 2" receiver.

But then you're stuck with a 3500lb ball mount in a 2" hitch. 
But you get the smooth euro ball look. 
It also hurts slightly less when you stub your knee on it.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"The 6-digit odometer was changed from 274,433 to 160,000 in June 2018 to 
reportedly match the mileage of the replacement engine.”

Odometer fraud?


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Huge BAT defect: It has over 75k on the odo. 
> For 160k I think $9250 was pretty good. 
> I guess the seller didn't agree with me. 
> 
>> On July 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Despite the dash being uncracked.  Maybe it's the ultra boring color
>> combination.
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-9/
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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Somebody wanted to overpay and got lucky when the bid was rejected.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 2:52 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Huge BAT defect: It has over 75k on the odo.
> For 160k I think $9250 was pretty good.
> I guess the seller didn't agree with me.
>
> > On July 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Despite the dash being uncracked.  Maybe it's the ultra boring color
> > combination.
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-9/
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I was going to recommend a Curt Euroball, even going to offer you one
> of mine, but Curt only makes Euroballs for 1 1/4".

That's a 1-1/4" receiver, not a 1-1/4" ball.


> Euroball, anybody want one of these for $15 plus postage?
> https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45572-Euro-Mount-Ball/dp/B003B3GX5E

IIRC, etrailer.com has sleeves which will allow you to use an item meant
for a less than 2" receiver in a 2" receiver.


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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> Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.
>
> They have guides and product selectors to help.

Agreed, they are good. I bought a hitch for my Volvo from them, bolted
right up with no issues. Perfect fit. They also supplied a wiring
harness that plugged in to the factory taillight connectors, so no
cutting/splicing wires, and it has an independent power source so the
car's electronics are unaffected.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Huge BAT defect: It has over 75k on the odo. 
For 160k I think $9250 was pretty good. 
I guess the seller didn't agree with me. 

> On July 11, 2019 at 10:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Despite the dash being uncracked.  Maybe it's the ultra boring color
> combination.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-9/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

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On 10/07/2019 8:54 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

G Mann wrote:

The radiation levels at ground level is far above human limits water
even more. Food stocks grown in the area concentrate more non human
levels

yes, etc, etc = all bad.  Flight a century ago was all bad too.  The
old people there all seem healthy.  Maybe they are video plants? i.e.
LARP



Challenge does not seem as bad as some other dangers in life, such as
immunizations, pharma, medicine.
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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> On July 11, 2019 at 12:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 

That works, or if you want flexibility this is a bit uglier and a bit more 
costly:
https://www.amazon.com/MaxxHaul-70067-8-Position-Adjustable-Mount/dp/B008CE06ZA

If you don't already have the ball you might as well buy a full set, mounted 
ball and hitch pin. 

This is about the cheapest I know of today:
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive/towing-cargo-management/trailer-hitches-balls/towsmart-reg-class-iii-standard-ball-mount-starter-kit-w-2-ball/1228/p-147118397-c-1527167451361.htm

This is $24.47 at both Wally World and large wimmen world, and I believe it's 
made in USA.
I was going to recommend a Curt Euroball, even going to offer you one of mine, 
but Curt only makes Euroballs for 1 1/4".
https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45056-Loaded-Ball-Mount/dp/B001EOYK98

Euroball, anybody want one of these for $15 plus postage?
https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45572-Euro-Mount-Ball/dp/B003B3GX5E

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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OR

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=adjustable+ball+mount=nb_sb_noss_2


On 11/07/2019 12:28 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

2" ball is pretty much the go-to if you don't have better information.
So far as drop goes, it totally depends on the trailer and how it's built.
If you have a most-likely trailer, go measure it and then figure out how
much drop to buy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:56:43 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Yeah. He's not the only one on this list either.
> >
> > Hi. I'm Rick and I'm a Mercedesaholic.
> >
> > Rick
>
> I thought it was a requirement for joining the group -

It sure seems to be ...


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:09:43 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the
> dimensions. Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the
> ball?
> 
> I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.

They have guides and product selectors to help.


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Fred and I rented a tow dolly for my '98 Jetta that we pulled with my '03 
Ranger. It vibrated badly if we went over 65mph. Turns out the tow dolly wanted 
a 2" ball, the Ranger had a 1 7/8" (I think thats the next size down) ball.
Oops. Probably was also a problem when I was towing the '84 190D but on that 
tow the weather was bad so I never wanted to go faster than 60mph anyway...
-Curt

On Thursday, July 11, 2019, 12:40:11 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
> drop on the ball mount.
>
> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
> different size cup.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
> >
> > I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's pretty much what I have, it's the kinda standard setup. Remember 
too that the back end will sag a bit with a load on it


--FT

On 7/11/19 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, guys. I’m pretty well set on a 2” ball, that I know. I was more 
concerned about the drop for the ball mount.

I was looking through the ML forum on BW and a couple of people have posted 
there about their hitch setups. Looks like most are using this:

https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 


This has a 2” drop, which is probably more than enough for the ML considering 
the bumper height.

??

-D




On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
drop on the ball mount.

You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
different size cup.

--FT

On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s

hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental

from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

2" ball is pretty much the go-to if you don't have better information.
So far as drop goes, it totally depends on the trailer and how it's built.
If you have a most-likely trailer, go measure it and then figure out how
much drop to buy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I thought it was a requirement for joining the group -

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:49 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah. He's not the only one on this list either.
>
> Hi. I'm Rick and I'm a Mercedesaholic.
>
> Rick
>

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. He's not the only one on this list either.

Hi. I'm Rick and I'm a Mercedesaholic.

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: July 11, 2019 9:06 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

Standing up:

My name is Kaleb, and I have a Mercedes addiction.

(Group: Hi, Kaleb!)

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Kaleb says:
>
>> I saw it. I’m trying to get rid of cars, not get more.
>
> YAY!!!
>
> I'm proud of you!
>
> Waytogo!
>
> Attaboy (tm Wilton)!

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, guys. I’m pretty well set on a 2” ball, that I know. I was more 
concerned about the drop for the ball mount.

I was looking through the ML forum on BW and a couple of people have posted 
there about their hitch setups. Looks like most are using this:

https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 


This has a 2” drop, which is probably more than enough for the ML considering 
the bumper height.

??

-D



> On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
>> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
>> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
>> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
>> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
>> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
>> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
>> drop on the ball mount.
>> 
>> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
>> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
>> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
>> different size cup.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
>> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
>> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
>> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
>>> 
>>> I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
>> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
> drop on the ball mount.
>
> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
> different size cup.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
> >
> > I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but 
the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2 
different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on 
what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I 
turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that 
ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder 
should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches 
drop on the ball mount.


You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just 
rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you 
think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a 
different size cup.


--FT

On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s hitch. 
It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go about figuring 
out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions. Is there a 
standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental from 
UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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[MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s hitch. 
It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go about figuring 
out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions. Is there a 
standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental from 
UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

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https://www.villagehatshop.com/category/84/1/pith-helmets.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0ZzThJmt4wIV27fACh3OBQAQEAAYASAAEgInNPD_BwE

On 11/07/2019 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

We need a pith helmet competition at the next Q...

Curt

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Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:59 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn hats of
one form or another in the years I worked outdoors.

I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I rarely
wear it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...

-D




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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Include rap, I'll be there to watch.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On July 11, 2019 11:32:31 AM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>We need a pith helmet competition at the next Q...
>
>Curt
>
>Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 7:19 PM, Dwight Giles via
>Mercedes wrote:   Yes i loved my pith helmet-
>not sure what happened to it.
>
>Dwight Giles Jr.
>Wickford RI
>
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:59 PM Dan--- via Mercedes
>
>wrote:
>
>> I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn
>hats of
>> one form or another in the years I worked outdoors.
>>
>> I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I
>rarely
>> wear it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that
>> style)
>> >
>> > Fedora.
>> >
>> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

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We need a pith helmet competition at the next Q...

Curt

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  On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 7:19 PM, Dwight Giles via 
Mercedes wrote:   Yes i loved my pith helmet- not sure 
what happened to it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:59 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn hats of
> one form or another in the years I worked outdoors.
>
> I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I rarely
> wear it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...
>
> -D
>
> On Jul 10, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that
> style)
> >
> > Fedora.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Sellers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, Dave is a great seller. I’ve worked with him directly for some time, so I 
never really notice his stuff when he posts in a forum.

Parting out a car is a PITA and rarely ever worth the time and effort. Once you 
get the desirable/expensive stuff off and sold, it takes forever (if that) to 
move the rest. I found this out when I parted out the 95 S500 W140 coupe. I 
still have stuff laying around from that…

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've dealt with a couple sellers (like Dave Hendy) that are right on the
> ball, and I've been a seller, so I know both sides.  Making time to sell
> parts and ship them is sometimes tough, I get that.
> 
> Ideally the car / seller would be closer so I could just drive over and get
> my stuff, not an option in this case.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:51 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve found the denizens of PP are somewhat more laid back about things in
>> general, or so it seems. The times I’ve tried to connect with various
>> sellers there seem to have been met with indifference in a lot of cases.
>> Not sure what the deal is.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sellers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I've dealt with a couple sellers (like Dave Hendy) that are right on the
ball, and I've been a seller, so I know both sides.  Making time to sell
parts and ship them is sometimes tough, I get that.

Ideally the car / seller would be closer so I could just drive over and get
my stuff, not an option in this case.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:51 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’ve found the denizens of PP are somewhat more laid back about things in
> general, or so it seems. The times I’ve tried to connect with various
> sellers there seem to have been met with indifference in a lot of cases.
> Not sure what the deal is.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Someone moved the trunk badge???

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I spend a lot of time reading maps at night in my 560SEC.  I have a 
whole collection in the sagging seat back netting


--FT

On 7/11/19 10:51 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
It also has the optional map reader option on the front dome light.  
Very useful.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


The mind reels...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-560sec-14

Might end up being an OK deal

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Re: [MBZ] Someone moved the trunk badge???

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It also has the optional map reader option on the front dome light.  Very
useful.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> The mind reels...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-560sec-14
>
> Might end up being an OK deal
>
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[MBZ] Clean '81 turbo wagon not getting much love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Despite the dash being uncracked.  Maybe it's the ultra boring color
combination.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-07-11
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[MBZ] Someone moved the trunk badge???

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The mind reels...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-560sec-14

Might end up being an OK deal

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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Standing up:

My name is Kaleb, and I have a Mercedes addiction.

(Group: Hi, Kaleb!)

-D


> On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb says:
> 
>> I saw it. I’m trying to get rid of cars, not get more.
> 
> YAY!!!
> 
> I'm proud of you!
> 
> Waytogo!
> 
> Attaboy (tm Wilton)!
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb says:

>I saw it. I’m trying to get rid of cars, not get more.

YAY!!!

I'm proud of you!

Waytogo!

Attaboy (tm Wilton)!


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Sellers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve found the denizens of PP are somewhat more laid back about things in 
general, or so it seems. The times I’ve tried to connect with various sellers 
there seem to have been met with indifference in a lot of cases. Not sure what 
the deal is.

-D

 
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Guy on PeachParts is parting out a '95 E300.  He is semi-engaged, but I'm
> starting to grow weary.
> 
> I've sent him questions and a big long list of stuff I'd like, he has only
> answered one question and provided no response to my requests for parts.
> 
> I guess he's finding out that parting out a car is a pain in the butt.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Sellers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Guy on PeachParts is parting out a '95 E300.  He is semi-engaged, but I'm
starting to grow weary.

I've sent him questions and a big long list of stuff I'd like, he has only
answered one question and provided no response to my requests for parts.

I guess he's finding out that parting out a car is a pain in the butt.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I saw it. I’m trying to get rid of cars, not get more. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And this one isn’t that far away, either..
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/399941-1994-s420-w140-nw-arkansas-%24550.html
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] KLEBMOBILE ALERT!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And this one isn’t that far away, either..

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/399941-1994-s420-w140-nw-arkansas-%24550.html

-D



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