Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to 
Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but…

His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had more 
chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio with rollers 
instead of knobs. Just a lot of weird design stuff that I recall. Anyway, he 
took care of that car like it was his fourth child (I had two siblings.) I 
believe he drove it until the mid to late 70s, and when he sold it he was so 
proud that it had 270k on the clock. I recall it looking beautiful the day he 
sold it. It was Zeibarted so it never rusted anywhere that I recall.

The car he bought to replace it? 

1977 Chrysler Cordoba with Corinthian leather. Silver with a red landau top.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 12:43 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who had a 67 galaxie when I met him.   I believe his parents 
> bought it new.  He got over 300 k with it.  He replaces each frod with 
> another.  Each one got over 300k.  BTW he was an A&P when I met him, working 
> on a degree in Aero E.   Since he gradgitated, he has worked for a major 
> aircraft mfgr.   He takes fastidious car of each car, as Manfred does.
> 
> We thought it was a big deal when the 65 chevey got to 250k back in 1972 or 
> so.   300k on a domestic car was unheard of back then, but he did it.
> 
> Now the shovey was a used one.   Most used cars had the odo rolled back in 
> those days.   Who knows if this one did or didn't.   But care and type of 
> driving make a bigger difference than brand, or name or engine.
> 
> Kinda majik how domestic cars that rarely made it to 200k routinely go 250k 
> to 350k as soon as carfax and such made hiding the odo rollback difficult.   
> But the 6 cyl engines GM made in the mid 60s were crap, as the bigwigs were 
> trying to kill off the 6 cyl.
> 
> 
> 
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 5:52 PM:
>> Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups last 
>> a long time".
>> But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco 
>> went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even 
>> "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with 
>> additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related 
>> failure in Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6 
>> and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would 
>> have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420 
>> trans.
>>   Mitch.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

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It’s low 

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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 1995 E300 Diesel. Page 81 of the owner's manual says park on level, engine at 
> idle, transmission lever on Park, then use either cold or hot markers on the 
> dipstick as appropriate.
> 
> Dipstick shows no ATF. What's going on? Shut off the engine, dipstick reads 
> at the low end of hot, which is where I think it should be as I've just 
> driven about twenty miles. Turn on engine, no ATF on the dipstick!
> 
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[MBZ] Here's one for Andrew

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

go big or go home

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/north-charleston-2008-mercedes-benz/7000409123.html

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM:

My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to 
Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but…

His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had more 
chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio with rollers 
instead of knobs. Just a lot of weird design stuff that I recall. Anyway, he 
took care of that car like it was his fourth child (I had two siblings.) I 
believe he drove it until the mid to late 70s, and when he sold it he was so 
proud that it had 270k on the clock. I recall it looking beautiful the day he 
sold it. It was Zeibarted so it never rusted anywhere that I recall.

The car he bought to replace it?

1977 Chrysler Cordoba with Corinthian leather. Silver with a red landau top.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> Dipstick shows no ATF. What's going on?
>
> Umm, the level is low?  What other interpretation would you have?
> It must be checked with the engine running, else it reads WAY too
> high.

And incidentally, this varies. Our Honda for example must be checked
with the transmission hot, engine off. You just have to read the manual
for each car and do what the manufacturer says.

Worse is our Volvo which has no dipstick. Transmission fluid level is
set by overfilling, then connecting a scan tool that can read
transmission temperature, and at a specific temperature, with engine
running, removing a plug and letting the fluid drain down to the proper
level. It's actually a little standpipe internally. I guess that's more
accurate, but definitely not as convenient.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yeah the TRD is funny. Toyota Racing Development my arse. Who races garbage 
Toyota pickups anyway?

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>  wrote:
> 
> I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky 
> and turd.
> 
> Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM:
>> Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
>> Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. 
>> And they left the U out of TRD.
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR
>> 1982 240D High Mileage Hildegard
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Good one!

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On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even 
>> though it’s also cheap crap.
> 
> I think our guest workers may like them so much because the model name starts 
> with "Taco".
> 
> 
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[MBZ] WAS Re: Toyota Hilux? NOW Chrome

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/10/2019 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

. . .

His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had more 
chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life.

. . .

-D



If you want to see chrome, you need to see an early 50's Buick. The dash 
had a big chrome speaker grill and the front grill was massive.


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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the 
occupants hold up in an accident. 

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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 4:32 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one? How long should it last to be 
> considered good?
> As long as a Mercedes?
> 
> My wife has driven an 03 4cyl 2wd Tacoma since new. Like she stole it (80 mph 
> +). $22K for a 4 door 2wd with a lid on the bed.
> 
> Had oil changes every 5000mi. Repairs you ask? One COP and the rear wheel 
> bearings at 290K. Replaced the belts and hoses twice just because. That's 
> it!!! Has any of your cars needed so little?
> 
> Show me any of your Mercedes or mine that have had so little work needed done 
> to them over 330K miles which is what it has on it. Still doesn't leak or 
> burn oil.
> 
> Hell! I put more than that into my 83 Mercedes to get it up to not even near 
> that good a condition.
> 
> Get one of them and run it and see how good it is before you run them down on 
> the say so of idiots that use a vehicle without any maintenance done to it 
> and expect it to last a million miles without an oil change.
> 
> Bunch of wankers!
> 
> 
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Because Hilux sounds like cheap crap. Tacoma sounds more enchanting even 
>> though it’s also cheap crap.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A Hilux by any other name is a Tacoma. No idea why the Hilux name never 
>>> stuck here in the US.
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Dan Penoff via 
>>> Mercedes wrote:   Again, read my original post. I 
>>> would raise these issues but I’m stupid. You’re a parent, you know what I 
>>> mean.
>>> 
>>> This too, will pass.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 13, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 he'd have to sift through the iron oxide on the ground at most junkyards 
 to find what remains of one in most of the country.  Near the ocean they 
 rusted top down. Elsewhere, bottom up.
 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/13/19 7:59 AM:
> Youngest son believes he now wants a Toyota Hilux and has asked me to put 
> the word out. No more details than that, so I’m going with what I’ve got.
> 
> Don’t ask me why, I don’t go there. If you see or know of one, drop me a 
> PM and I’ll pass it along.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Exactly!

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wrote:

>> Holy Sh-t people have you ever had one?
> 
> A friend had one he traded in on a Ford f150. It had about 400k miles on it. 
> It needed very few repairs, if any. They are very sound pick-ups. They have a 
> very commanding resale value too.
> 
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[MBZ] direct injection issues

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=xrLNDgrIw3U

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

As I recall, it was.

While the Córdoba was probably the pinnacle of crappy Detroit iron of time, it 
was a really nice car as I recall.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM:
>> My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to 
>> Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but…
>> 
>> His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had 
>> more chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio with 
>> rollers instead of knobs. Just a lot of weird design stuff that I recall. 
>> Anyway, he took care of that car like it was his fourth child (I had two 
>> siblings.) I believe he drove it until the mid to late 70s, and when he sold 
>> it he was so proud that it had 270k on the clock. I recall it looking 
>> beautiful the day he sold it. It was Zeibarted so it never rusted anywhere 
>> that I recall.
>> 
>> The car he bought to replace it?
>> 
>> 1977 Chrysler Cordoba with Corinthian leather. Silver with a red landau top.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/10/2019 10:16 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

The true test of one of those Asian crapboxes is how well they and the 
occupants hold up in an accident.



Sadly, most North American pickup trucks did not have a very good crash 
rating until fairly recently either. I know my '02 Ford Supercrew was 
not considered very good. My '13 Supercrew is much better. Hope I never 
get to test that.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Checking ATF level - am I doing it wrong?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 16, 2019 at 11:10 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Worse is our Volvo which has no dipstick. Transmission fluid level is
> set by overfilling, then connecting a scan tool that can read
> transmission temperature, and at a specific temperature, with engine
> running, removing a plug and letting the fluid drain down to the proper
> level. It's actually a little standpipe internally. I guess that's more
> accurate, but definitely not as convenient.

GM's 6T35 transaxle is like that. The weep hole, anyway, I don't know if a 
standpipe feeds it.
Temp range is fairly narrow and too high to achieve idling in the garage.

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Re: [MBZ] direct injection issues

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I read the index, disn't see any mention of LSPI.
One way to deal with the intake valve soot issue is to buy an AMG with both 
port and direct injection, and apply your right foot frequently to enable the 
port injection. 

> On October 16, 2019 at 11:21 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=xrLNDgrIw3U
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Toyota is a big player in Trophy truck racing. Big output engines, huge travel 
suspension, off-road at highway speeds...
I didn't like the Tacoma when we drove them before buying our Dodge. The swiss 
cheese frame debacle awhile ago didn't impress me either. That said there is a 
reason the Hilux is the default pickup in the rest of the world. Outside of 
North America you never see an F150...
Curt

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  On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via 
Mercedes wrote:   Yeah the TRD is funny. Toyota Racing 
Development my arse. Who races garbage Toyota pickups anyway?

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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've always thought it very humorous that toada brands their peekups as tacky 
> and turd.
> 
> Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 10/15/19 10:46 AM:
>> Yeah, I’ve never understood why a Japanese branded pickup was named after a 
>> Western Washington city other than Toyota and Tacoma both have 3 syllables. 
>> And they left the U out of TRD.
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, .OR
>> 1982 240D High Mileage Hildegard
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Was it rusting out by the time you got home? Was there a tuna sandwich in the 
door?I'd like to know how many of the stories of labor influenced disasters of 
that period are true.

Curt

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  On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:   As I recall, it was.

While the Córdoba was probably the pinnacle of crappy Detroit iron of time, it 
was a really nice car as I recall.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM:
>> My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved to 
>> Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but…
>> 
>> His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had 
>> more chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio with 
>> rollers instead of knobs. Just a lot of weird design stuff that I recall. 
>> Anyway, he took care of that car like it was his fourth child (I had two 
>> siblings.) I believe he drove it until the mid to late 70s, and when he sold 
>> it he was so proud that it had 270k on the clock. I recall it looking 
>> beautiful the day he sold it. It was Zeibarted so it never rusted anywhere 
>> that I recall.
>> 
>> The car he bought to replace it?
>> 
>> 1977 Chrysler Cordoba with Corinthian leather. Silver with a red landau top.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Dad had a few stories about stuff that happened in GM plants, but it wasn’t 
first hand so it’s tough to know if it was true or just anecdotal.

I once worked with an older guy in the 80s who worked on the line at Studebaker 
before they shut down. He told stories of how after it was announced that they 
were closing there were guys on the line who were taking dumps in the doors 
before they finished them.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Was it rusting out by the time you got home? Was there a tuna sandwich in the 
> door?
> I'd like to know how many of the stories of labor influenced disasters of 
> that period are true.
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> As I recall, it was.
> 
> While the Córdoba was probably the pinnacle of crappy Detroit iron of time, 
> it was a really nice car as I recall.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Oct 16, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > BUT, BUT, Was it RICH Corinthian Leather?
> > 
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 4:15 AM:
> >> My Dad, a GM VP that got program cars every six months, immediately moved 
> >> to Chryslers in 1970 when he left General Motors. Why I have no idea, but…
> >> 
> >> His first car after he left GM was a 1969 Dodge Monaco. Damned thing had 
> >> more chrome on it than I had ever seen before in my life. Funky radio with 
> >> rollers instead of knobs. Just a lot of weird design stuff that I recall. 
> >> Anyway, he took care of that car like it was his fourth child (I had two 
> >> siblings.) I believe he drove it until the mid to late 70s, and when he 
> >> sold it he was so proud that it had 270k on the clock. I recall it looking 
> >> beautiful the day he sold it. It was Zeibarted so it never rusted anywhere 
> >> that I recall.
> >> 
> >> The car he bought to replace it?
> >> 
> >> 1977 Chrysler Cordoba with Corinthian leather. Silver with a red landau 
> >> top.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall
(reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me
I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two
wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The
time before that, another recall visit, they told me that the battery was
almost dead and needed to be replaced before it stranded me somewhere. That
I partly believed because the truck sits most of the time - I drive it on
average every 10 days or so - and I had not been putting it on a charger. I
now use batteryminder

on it every time after I drive it - the six year old battery is still doing
fine.
So - I would ALWAYS at least get a second opinion on any service/repair
offered by the dealer.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups
> last a long time".
> But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco
> went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even
> "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with
> additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related
> failure in Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6
> and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would
> have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420
> trans.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes:

A vintage G-wagen!

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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall
> (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me
> I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two
> wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The
> time before that, another recall visit, they told me that the battery was
> almost dead and needed to be replaced before it stranded me somewhere. That
> I partly believed because the truck sits most of the time - I drive it on
> average every 10 days or so - and I had not been putting it on a charger. I
> now use batteryminder
> 
> on it every time after I drive it - the six year old battery is still doing
> fine.
> So - I would ALWAYS at least get a second opinion on any service/repair
> offered by the dealer.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups
>> last a long time".
>> But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco
>> went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even
>> "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with
>> additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related
>> failure in Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6
>> and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would
>> have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420
>> trans.
>> 
>> Mitch.
>> 
>> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Off topic oil question

[Don Snook via Mercedes]

For old school NON-MB (cast iron block) and 1984 technology would shell Rotella 
(or something similar) be best because of the higher zinc content?  

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Re: [MBZ] Off topic oil question

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I don't think Rotella or any mainstream oil has high enough zinc any
more for old engines. They have all been reformulated for modern
engines.

Maybe look Penn or racing oils.

https://penngrade1.com/products/high-performance-oils/

Or a ZDDP additive.


Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> For old school NON-MB (cast iron block) and 1984 technology would shell 
> Rotella (or something similar) be best because of the higher zinc content?  
>
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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.
>
> --FT
>
> On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > The rust... so frightening.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A lotta car for very little money, so far...
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Off topic oil question

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Brad Penn green stuff. Nothing else.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think Rotella or any mainstream oil has high enough zinc any
> more for old engines. They have all been reformulated for modern
> engines.
> 
> Maybe look Penn or racing oils.
> 
> https://penngrade1.com/products/high-performance-oils/
> 
> Or a ZDDP additive.
> 
> 
> Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> For old school NON-MB (cast iron block) and 1984 technology would shell 
>> Rotella (or something similar) be best because of the higher zinc content?  
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, you did not notice the rust?

Randy


On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.

--FT

On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

The rust... so frightening.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


A lotta car for very little money, so far...




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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/10/2019 12:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall
(reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me
I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two
wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The
time before that, another recall visit, they told me that the battery was
almost dead and needed to be replaced before it stranded me somewhere. That
I partly believed because the truck sits most of the time - I drive it on
average every 10 days or so - and I had not been putting it on a charger. I
now use batteryminder

on it every time after I drive it - the six year old battery is still doing
fine.
So - I would ALWAYS at least get a second opinion on any service/repair
offered by the dealer.


Interesting. When I had my 2013 F150 transmission re-programmed for the 
2nd time back in July, they told me I was due for brakes too. I really 
should have a look and see if they are getting worn. I have driven 
another 5K miles since and do not hear any brake noises so can't be too 
bad yet, but I am about to put the winter tires on so will have a look then.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

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Oh the rust... so scary.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So, you did not notice the rust?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> The rust... so frightening.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  A lotta car for very little money, so far...
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-mercedes-benz-300d-2/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-10-15
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Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Andrew

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would suspect hidden flood damage.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> go big or go home
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/north-charleston-2008-mercedes-benz/7000409123.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One or two prom seasons and the car will pay for itself.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:40 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh the rust... so scary.
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > So, you did not notice the rust?
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >>
> > >> On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> The rust... so frightening.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  A lotta car for very little money, so far...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I know you did. I was asking if Andrew noticed either in the photos or 
by virtue of your post on the matter.


Randy

On 16/10/2019 1:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Oh the rust... so scary.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So, you did not notice the rust?

Randy


On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.

--FT

On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

The rust... so frightening.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


A lotta car for very little money, so far...




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Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Andrew

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How does one hide flood damage? Everything is so nice and clean like it 
was just washed!


Randy

On 16/10/2019 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I would suspect hidden flood damage.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


go big or go home


https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/north-charleston-2008-mercedes-benz/7000409123.html

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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You would not be permitted to licence that here without spending a fair 
amount of money to repair any rust.

Might take more than two prom seasons.

Randy

On 16/10/2019 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

One or two prom seasons and the car will pay for itself.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:40 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Oh the rust... so scary.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So, you did not notice the rust?

Randy


On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.

--FT

On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

The rust... so frightening.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


A lotta car for very little money, so far...




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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Put a condo vending machine in the back and you could probably do it in 
one season


--FT

On 10/16/19 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

One or two prom seasons and the car will pay for itself.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:40 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Oh the rust... so scary.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So, you did not notice the rust?

Randy


On 16/10/2019 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SOLD for $10k.  Good deal.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I want it.  That and a Mog and I would be set.

--FT

On 10/15/19 10:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

The rust... so frightening.


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


A lotta car for very little money, so far...




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Re: [MBZ] '92 turbo diesel stretch limo on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/10/2019 2:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Put a condo vending machine in the back and you could probably do it 
in one season


--FT



Condom?


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Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Andrew

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Why?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> I would suspect hidden flood damage.
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> go big or go home
>>
>>
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/north-charleston-2008-mercedes-benz/7000409123.html
>>
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] WAS Re: Toyota Hilux? NOW Chrome

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 10:14:09 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If you want to see chrome, you need to see an early 50's Buick. The
> dash had a big chrome speaker grill and the front grill was massive.

My grandfather had one of those.

Yes, a lot of chrome!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately.

-D


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>> wrote:
>> 
>> AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall
>> (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me
>> I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two
>> wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The
>> time before that, another recall visit, they told me that the battery was
>> almost dead and needed to be replaced before it stranded me somewhere. That
>> I partly believed because the truck sits most of the time - I drive it on
>> average every 10 days or so - and I had not been putting it on a charger. I
>> now use batteryminder
>> 
>> on it every time after I drive it - the six year old battery is still doing
>> fine.
>> So - I would ALWAYS at least get a second opinion on any service/repair
>> offered by the dealer.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups
>>> last a long time".
>>> But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco
>>> went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even
>>> "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with
>>> additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related
>>> failure in Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6
>>> and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would
>>> have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420
>>> trans.
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
>>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
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>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
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>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I know. I was just being a smart ass!

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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes:
>> 
>> A vintage G-wagen!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> AH - the dealer. Last time I took the F150 to the dealer for a recall
>>> (reprogramming the shift down computer, the second time), the techs told me
>>> I needed new brakes REAL soon. I said thank you, drove home, pulled two
>>> wheels and measured the pads - they were barely worn from new specs. The
>>> time before that, another recall visit, they told me that the battery was
>>> almost dead and needed to be replaced before it stranded me somewhere. That
>>> I partly believed because the truck sits most of the time - I drive it on
>>> average every 10 days or so - and I had not been putting it on a charger. I
>>> now use batteryminder
>>> 
>>> on it every time after I drive it - the six year old battery is still doing
>>> fine.
>>> So - I would ALWAYS at least get a second opinion on any service/repair
>>> offered by the dealer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 5:53 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Sounds more like "Manfred's cars last a long time" than "Toyota pickups
 last a long time".
 But we can't read a lot into individual cars anyway, like "Manfred's Taco
 went 300k", or "the transmission in Byron's Taco didn't make 150k", or even
 "the transmission in Mitch's W140 didn't make 150k", although with
 additional knowledge we can say "the connector that had an oil related
 failure in Mitch's W140 trans at 145k is a common failure point for 722.6
 and a cheap fix if caught early". For all I know, a Toyota enthusiast would
 have fixed Byron's truck with a $15 part and 2 gallons of ATF, like my S420
 trans.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he 
probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle…

-D


> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I know. I was just being a smart ass!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely. But that’s out of his budget range, unfortunately.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I have the perfect vehicle for your son! Are you ready? Ok, here goes:
>>> 
>>> A vintage G-wagen!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he 
probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a vehicle…

-D



And having it repaired out in the boonies would likely pose a problem 
unless he could do most of it himself.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If it was an older one from the 80s it wouldn’t be a problem other than 
sourcing parts, I would expect. They were pretty analog at that time.

-D


> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 16/10/2019 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not really - it’s truly a viable option if he had the $$. To be honest, he 
>> probably does have the coin but isn’t willing to spend that much on a 
>> vehicle…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 
> And having it repaired out in the boonies would likely pose a problem unless 
> he could do most of it himself.
> 
> Randy
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[MBZ] Clay - It's Only Getting Worse!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://gizmodo.com/amazon-to-seattle-nice-city-council-youve-got-there-1839073864

-D
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[MBZ] SL 600 FS

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

There is a,black 99 SL600 V12 for sale up the road from me. 93k miles. Not
sure about price but i can get seller's phone number
Nointerest etc.  etc.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
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[MBZ] Looks nice but still too high

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

CLASSIC MERCEDES

https://jonesboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/jonesboro-classic-mercedes/7001043259.html


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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some
revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards,
got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would never be
back.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Interesting. When I had my 2013 F150 transmission re-programmed for the
> 2nd time back in July, they told me I was due for brakes too. I really
> should have a look and see if they are getting worn. I have driven
> another 5K miles since and do not hear any brake noises so can't be too
> bad yet, but I am about to put the winter tires on so will have a look
> then.
>
> Randy
>
-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice but still too high

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah it’s pretty nice. Compared to a lot of stuff that could be a reasonable 
price. 

--FT
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> On Oct 16, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> CLASSIC MERCEDES
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota Hilux?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Thats why we call them STEALERships!

OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 10/16/19 8:30 PM:

Very interesting! I wonder if it was a Ford suggestion to recover some
revenue? I gave the dealership a failing grade on the survey afterwards,
got a call from the service manager, and told him that I would never be
back.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Interesting. When I had my 2013 F150 transmission re-programmed for the
2nd time back in July, they told me I was due for brakes too. I really
should have a look and see if they are getting worn. I have driven
another 5K miles since and do not hear any brake noises so can't be too
bad yet, but I am about to put the winter tires on so will have a look
then.

Randy




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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice but still too high

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Agreed.  123's,& 124's are,not as cheap as they used to be.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 9:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah it’s pretty nice. Compared to a lot of stuff that could be a
> reasonable price.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Oct 16, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Tesla Model 3: More "Global Climate Change" than a Mercedes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Seems like this thing is able to keep the net to zero, so maybe it would
limit the panels to whatever you are using and not drop out just because
the grid is down.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/plxdevices/legion-solar-4-permission-free-energy-and-storage

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Re: [MBZ] Clay - It's Only Getting Worse!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

End of last weeks a homeless gal had her trailer towed and parked in front of a 
City council members home.  Made the local conservative radio show.


clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



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