Re: [MBZ] I was at the Dr today

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

You really don't want the test, unless you absolutely need it. See the attached 
picture. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks. Good info. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:38:26 -0400 Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I converted a '82 240D from a four-cylinder engine with an automatic
> transmission to a five-cylinder naturally-aspirated engine with a manual
> transmission at the conclusion of my grad school stint. I was fortunate
> to have a 123.123 Euro car on hand at a nearby salvage yard from which to
> get parts. I chose the naturally-aspirated engine because I wanted simple
> and did not want the complication of a turbo engine.
> 
> 
>> will the 240D transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or
>> performance issues?
> 
> It should bolt up straight away. If it does not, there is a "plate" on
> the back of each engine to which the bellhousing bolts which you can take
> from the OM616.912 to bolt onto the OM617.952. That is referenced in the
> list below as 110 011 15 45.
> 
> 
>> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 
> 
> Yes, the sensible thing to do! That was one of the benefits I had when I
> turned the 240D into the 240D/3.0. I did the swap primarily, though,
> because the 240D automatic transmission was severely damaged deep inside
> and I thought the OM616 was weak as well. I didn't want to spend $2500 to
> have Ben's Workshop in Austin, TX replace the transmission and still have
> the OM616.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> P.S. The list of part numbers I developed (with a terminal "R" meaning
> I bought the part from Rusty and a terminal "D" meaning I bought
> the part from the Mercedes Dealer in Austin) is:
> 
> Lock lube001 989 26 51 10
> Key Blank Head000 766 44 06
> R main fuel filter001 092 05 01 R
> main fuel filter o-rings007 603 01 81 01
> inline fuel filter001 477 79 01 R
> oil filter617 180 00 09 R
> oil filter cover stem o-rings015 997 94 48 R
> air filter001 094 95 04 R
> Vacuum line oil trapping filter000 078 06 56 
> 
> Steering damper000 463 51 32 R
> 617 engine shock absorbers123 240 09 48 R
> 617 transmission mount123 240 25 18 R
> 617 motor mount123 241 30 13 R
> 617 engine shock weld bracket, left123 620 13 14 D
> 617 engine shock weld bracket, right123 620 14 14 D
> 617 engine lower oil pan115 010 04 28 R
> 
> air cleaner mounting isolators617 988 01 11 D
> 617 improved crankcase ventilation hose617 018 01 82 R
> 617 manifold gasket617 142 07 80 R
> exhaust manifold to tail pipe bolts304 017 08 53 D
> exhaust manifold to tail pipe nuts000 990 32 50 D
> water pump110 200 17 20 R
> power steering pump mounting bolts304 014 08 09 D
> power steering pump mounting bolt washers000 137 08 204 D
> tail pipe hangers ("rubber donuts")124 492 00 44 D
> 
> prechamber616 010 01 52 R
> prechamber seal ring615 017 00 60 R
> injector nozzle plate (seal) type 1617 017 03 60 R
>"  "  " "type 2601 017 00 60 R
> injector return line615 476 03 26 D
> injector return line plug403 070 00 55 D
> injection pump mounting gasket616 074 00 80 R
> large banjo bolt copper seal ringN007603014405 R
> small banjo bolt copper seal ring007 603 012 111 R
> fuel pump/main filter plastic hose w/banjo fit.615 070 42 32 R
> inj. pump/injector return plasic hose w/banj.ft 615 070 56 32 R
> inj. pump plastic fuel hose w/banjo fittings615 070 40 32 R
> diesel fuel return007 997 16 82 R
> 
> engine plate (to which bell housing bolts)110 011 15 45
> manual transmission pilot bearing115 980 01 15 R
> manual transmission flywheel-to-crank bolts615 032 05 71 R
> 615, 616 stick-shift flywheel115 032 06 01
> 617 stick-shift flywheel617 032 00 01
> clutch disk010 250 34 03 R
> clutch pressure plate004 250 32 04 R
> clutch throw-out bearing000 250 55 15 R
> clutch slave cylinder001 295 68 07 R
> clutch slave cylinder to bell housing gasket110 138 41 30 D
> clutch master cylinder/brake reservoir tubing009 997 38 82 D
> Transmission tunnel hole plug000 997 40 20 D
> Bellhousing inspection hole plug617 014 04 33 R
> clutch switch to cutoff cruise control004 545 18 14 D
> clutch switch mounting nut000 439 08 213 D
> clutch switch mounting lock washer000 137 08 212 D
> clutch switch bracket123 545 21 40 D
> clutch switch bracket mounting bolt304 017 06 16 D
> clutch switch bracket mounting lockwasher912 004 06 102 D
> clutch switch bracket mounting nut304 032 06 04 D
> 
> driveshaft 

Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:14:06 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Does anyone else have the problem that their car only seems to get
> destroyed when their wife drives it?

Talk with Kaleb ...


> All I need is to die exceeding max takeoff weight on a kids scooter
> trying to fix a 35year old brake caliper during an epidemic. 

That sounds like bad press ...


> Not even any place to get your hair cut here; we have an oyster 76
> somewhere and if I can find it the hair is all coming down to #2 length
> immediately.

I was thinking something similar this evening.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

As I was suiting up to go on some covid room this morning the wife shoots
me a video of the 123 rear driver side wheel with smoke pouring out from
under the car and calls me to tell me the car is on fire. They were already
at their destination and it didnt look like a real fire plus what could
possibly burn up back there other than a brake. Against medical advice she
drove it home on side streets until the burning stench was too great
whereupon she, the kids and the dog set out on foot for the final three
miles or so with the violins etc, leaving the car in a parking spot, which
rules are not being enforced luckily for the moment. Anyway I went down and
the rotor is scored pretty good but still a bit of pad left. The seals on
both sides appear to have been hit with a screwdriver and the outer seal
was leaking fluid. Weird. Anyway I put it back together and drove home.
Pedal is squishy but was rock hard by the time I arrived; presumably air
inside getting hot. I am not into rebuilding calipers and everything is
closed so I will try to get a couple rebuilt ones from the bev hills dealer
or Tom or rock auto. I was more upset to learn the dog had somehow during
this excursion managed to chew off both seatbelts for the 3rd seat, so I
will be replacing those also. And the nice factory tool roll tie tabs got
eaten also.They and the seatbelts were all pretty much perfect. And the dog
seems to have peed inside somehow, which smells about like you would
expect. Does anyone else have the problem that their car only seems to get
destroyed when their wife drives it? I may be dropping it off for a full
interior redo at some point soon. Leather is sounding better and better.
The dog will ride in a crate from now on, even if he is too big for the
biggest one that will fit in the tailgate. I already have a new carpet but
keep getting distracted by coronavirus and burning brake calipers. I am
also trying to tig braze a vband onto a turbo compressor housing with some
stuff called hts 2000. Not as simple as it might appear; maybe my map torch
tip is messed up because it takes forever to get hot enough. To top it off
I dont have a functional car to drive tomorrow because I left the 420 where
the wagon was. Tried to use a kids scooter to get down there again but
exceeded max scooter weight making front wheel plastic tie rod toe angle
seriously erratic and steering about impossible. All I need is to die
exceeding max takeoff weight on a kids scooter trying to fix a 35year old
brake caliper during an epidemic. Not even any place to get your hair cut
here; we have an oyster 76 somewhere and if I can find it the hair is all
coming down to #2 length immediately.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:54 AM MG via Mercedes  wrote:

>
>
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on
> the slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the
> wagon for some reason).
> >
> > Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one
> slide bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back
> in, put new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.
> >
> > Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed
> correctly, they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the
> floating half.  Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good.
> >
> > Wear sensor is very similar.
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[MBZ] Lung Damage

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

COVID-19: Recovered patients have partially reduced lung function

Chinese researchers have found fluid- or debris-filled sacs in the lungs of 
those who were infected by COVID-19. Scans suggest sustained organ damage. 

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-recovered-patients-have-partially-reduced-lung-function/a-52859671

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Re: [MBZ] I was at the Dr today

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Easy enough to improvise 

--FT
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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Governor claims one of the reason the state has been slow to start testing 
> is due to a lack of swabs.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Alaska is running out of swabs.  I do not think that is a giant issue, as I 
>> suspect the damn things will not fix the infection in a productive manner.  
>> Fairbanks has shut itself off from the world, Anchorage just decided to 
>> suggest everybody stay home for a few weeks.  BTW, AK has a population 
>> density of 0 people per kilometer.  Russia has 8 people per kilometer.  
>> Pretty close to that of Idaho.
>> 
>> #2 boy is flying up from PDX this afternoon.  He saw most of the flights 
>> leaving had an average of 5 people on them.  His flight to ANC is packed 
>> with 145.  He will be isolated for 14 days.  His mother is not willing to 
>> give him a hug when he arrives.  Maybe we use a mylar blanket and bundle him 
>> up in the trunk instead
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
 On Mar 20, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, NYC is starting to go sideways, hospitals will be totally 
>>> overwhelmed in the next few days. Let’s see how worried that makes you 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me, sorta — 211 airmatic

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I gotta dig into it more 

--FY
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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just because the pump ran does not mean it is good. The Das tests will 
> usually tell you exactly what the issue is.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I decided today to go spend some time trying to figure out why this 
>> $500E500 is all squatted down. I took off the air pump to check it out 
>> (which I need not have done, but I wanted to see if it was banged up from 
>> the off-road excursion. It was fine. 
>> 
>> Turns out it was getting no electrons. FUSE was fine. A bit of research 
>> showed there is a relay in the electrical box. Pulled that and tested it, 
>> seemed to be kaput (0 ohms) across the actuation contacts. So I jumpered the 
>> 12V contacts and it ran!!!  So the relay is bad. 
>> 
>> I had the car off the ground, wheels dangling but it didn’t seem to pump up 
>> any struts. There was air coming out of the intake side. This might indicate 
>> blown o-rings maybe so it might need a rebuild. 
>> 
>> I put the computer on and did a diagnostic on the airmatic after I dropped 
>> it back down. It had a bunch of codes, one being the solenoid which I guess 
>> controls air going out?  A couple of the struts which are not totally 
>> collapsed were showing 5+bar pressure which is about a third of what they 
>> are supposed to be. The other two were much lower. I tried to run 
>> pressurization on each strut but I think it needs to be off the ground, or 
>> if the air is not actually being solenoided out I guess it won’t work. 
>> 
>> Got dark and late so I came in. I’ll have to dig into it a bit more. 
>> 
>> Oh, I disconnected the 2 rear air lines at the pump distribution block and 
>> put compressed air in them while the car was off the ground but no change. 
>> Maybe there’s some other logic or components in the system they won’t allow 
>> that , I don’t know. I’ll research it all more. 
>> 
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me, sorta — 211 airmatic

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Just because the pump ran does not mean it is good. The Das tests will usually 
tell you exactly what the issue is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I decided today to go spend some time trying to figure out why this $500E500 
> is all squatted down. I took off the air pump to check it out (which I need 
> not have done, but I wanted to see if it was banged up from the off-road 
> excursion. It was fine. 
> 
> Turns out it was getting no electrons. FUSE was fine. A bit of research 
> showed there is a relay in the electrical box. Pulled that and tested it, 
> seemed to be kaput (0 ohms) across the actuation contacts. So I jumpered the 
> 12V contacts and it ran!!!  So the relay is bad. 
> 
> I had the car off the ground, wheels dangling but it didn’t seem to pump up 
> any struts. There was air coming out of the intake side. This might indicate 
> blown o-rings maybe so it might need a rebuild. 
> 
> I put the computer on and did a diagnostic on the airmatic after I dropped it 
> back down. It had a bunch of codes, one being the solenoid which I guess 
> controls air going out?  A couple of the struts which are not totally 
> collapsed were showing 5+bar pressure which is about a third of what they are 
> supposed to be. The other two were much lower. I tried to run pressurization 
> on each strut but I think it needs to be off the ground, or if the air is not 
> actually being solenoided out I guess it won’t work. 
> 
> Got dark and late so I came in. I’ll have to dig into it a bit more. 
> 
> Oh, I disconnected the 2 rear air lines at the pump distribution block and 
> put compressed air in them while the car was off the ground but no change. 
> Maybe there’s some other logic or components in the system they won’t allow 
> that , I don’t know. I’ll research it all more. 
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] Yay me, sorta — 211 airmatic

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I decided today to go spend some time trying to figure out why this $500E500 is 
all squatted down. I took off the air pump to check it out (which I need not 
have done, but I wanted to see if it was banged up from the off-road excursion. 
It was fine. 

Turns out it was getting no electrons. FUSE was fine. A bit of research showed 
there is a relay in the electrical box. Pulled that and tested it, seemed to be 
kaput (0 ohms) across the actuation contacts. So I jumpered the 12V contacts 
and it ran!!!  So the relay is bad. 

I had the car off the ground, wheels dangling but it didn’t seem to pump up any 
struts. There was air coming out of the intake side. This might indicate blown 
o-rings maybe so it might need a rebuild. 

I put the computer on and did a diagnostic on the airmatic after I dropped it 
back down. It had a bunch of codes, one being the solenoid which I guess 
controls air going out?  A couple of the struts which are not totally collapsed 
were showing 5+bar pressure which is about a third of what they are supposed to 
be. The other two were much lower. I tried to run pressurization on each strut 
but I think it needs to be off the ground, or if the air is not actually being 
solenoided out I guess it won’t work. 

Got dark and late so I came in. I’ll have to dig into it a bit more. 

Oh, I disconnected the 2 rear air lines at the pump distribution block and put 
compressed air in them while the car was off the ground but no change. Maybe 
there’s some other logic or components in the system they won’t allow that , I 
don’t know. I’ll research it all more. 

--R
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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

He broke even.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 4:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He knew when to fold
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cashed in his chips?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the
> virus as far as I know.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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>  On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.
> >>>
> >>> Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good trivia to know. I learned something new today.

Thanks!

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 6:31 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 240D used the 722.117 (W 4 B 025) automatic.
> 
> The 300D Turbo used the 722.315 (W 4 B 040) automatic.
> 
> The trailing number (040) refers to the maximum torque that the transmission 
> can handle. A 240D automatic will be destroyed fairly quickly by the 
> additional "power" emerging from the 3L turbo engine.
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Re: [MBZ] I was at the Dr today

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Governor claims one of the reason the state has been slow to start testing is 
due to a lack of swabs.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Alaska is running out of swabs.  I do not think that is a giant issue, as I 
> suspect the damn things will not fix the infection in a productive manner.  
> Fairbanks has shut itself off from the world, Anchorage just decided to 
> suggest everybody stay home for a few weeks.  BTW, AK has a population 
> density of 0 people per kilometer.  Russia has 8 people per kilometer.  
> Pretty close to that of Idaho.
> 
> #2 boy is flying up from PDX this afternoon.  He saw most of the flights 
> leaving had an average of 5 people on them.  His flight to ANC is packed with 
> 145.  He will be isolated for 14 days.  His mother is not willing to give him 
> a hug when he arrives.  Maybe we use a mylar blanket and bundle him up in the 
> trunk instead
> 
> 
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Meanwhile, NYC is starting to go sideways, hospitals will be totally 
>> overwhelmed in the next few days. Let’s see how worried that makes you 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Clay via Mercedes]

The clock in the SL runs but there is a discontinuity in drive wheel, so it 
does not keep time.  The SDL and SD both had working clocks when sold.  I have 
not used a wrist mounted time piece for about 27 years and the one I last saw 
was a Disney Winnie the Pooh watch in a desk drawer last time I was in SEA.  I 
will at times refer to the chronometer on the pocket communication device which 
at times will engage in glutteal connections with unknown people.

clay

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let's all talk about what watch we wear when we (did you catch my 
> alliteration there?) drive a particular car.  Like for a diesel, a gasser, an 
> SL, an E, an S, that sort of thing.
> 
> I myself don't wear a watch, the cars have clocks in them that more or less 
> work, and I generally don't particularly care what time it is but if I need 
> to I look at my iFon which is linked to Atomic Time!
> 
> -- 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] I was at the Dr today

[Clay via Mercedes]

Alaska is running out of swabs.  I do not think that is a giant issue, as I 
suspect the damn things will not fix the infection in a productive manner.  
Fairbanks has shut itself off from the world, Anchorage just decided to suggest 
everybody stay home for a few weeks.  BTW, AK has a population density of 0 
people per kilometer.  Russia has 8 people per kilometer.  Pretty close to that 
of Idaho.

#2 boy is flying up from PDX this afternoon.  He saw most of the flights 
leaving had an average of 5 people on them.  His flight to ANC is packed with 
145.  He will be isolated for 14 days.  His mother is not willing to give him a 
hug when he arrives.  Maybe we use a mylar blanket and bundle him up in the 
trunk instead



clay

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Meanwhile, NYC is starting to go sideways, hospitals will be totally 
> overwhelmed in the next few days. Let’s see how worried that makes you 
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan The list Mom wrote:

> ... in which it was delivered clearly was [political]. As a
> result the list member who posted it has been placed on
> moderation.

*sigh*  Really?  Whatever  But if that triggers moderation
status, there are a lot of others that should be too.  Just sayin'.

> be sure to read it first and remove any political or
> inflammatory content.

Inflammatory content like W123s with stacks through the hood?

Or mini-splits with refrigerant that could be contributing to
global warming?

Or green is a good color for a car?

Or islands closing borders?

Or C41 is easier than E6 processing?

Or blaming drug use for nutty for sale postings?

Or any Facebook link?

If you have a standard - hold to it for everyone.  Probably just
make all posts moderated...

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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

The 240D used the 722.117 (W 4 B 025) automatic.

The 300D Turbo used the 722.315 (W 4 B 040) automatic.

The trailing number (040) refers to the maximum torque that the transmission 
can handle. A 240D automatic will be destroyed fairly quickly by the additional 
"power" emerging from the 3L turbo engine.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I like watches. My fave is a Citizen solar pilot's watch in titanium, with a 
slide-rule bezel. I need to send it in for a new movement. I'm currently 
wearing an Invicta titanium chronograph with an ETA movement and a carbon fiber 
face. It keeps good time. My most interesting (if not very valuable) is an 
original Gruen Curvex that my family gave to my dad in the early 50s. I 
understand that the movement on that watch is unique in that the wheels are not 
all in the same plane because of the curved case.

I have a minor obsession with accurate measuring instruments and tools.

Greg

-Original Message-
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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:26 PM
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

My Wittnauer mechanical self-wind with a Speidoflex band goes well with any
vintage.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:08 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I still wear a rubber Timex. Probably because I always wore a watch.
> > After I retired I realized I needed a watch that showed the date as well
> as the day of the week.
> > My Timex has two times (T1 and T2) that I use doe DST/EST switching
> > But leap year 2020 got me messed up; had to reset everything..  Wonder
> if I'll be around for the next one?
>
> I was at a hotel on Feb 29, 2020. All the card-reader locks on the rooms
> had stopped working because the system could not handle that date. So
> any time any guest had to get into his room a staff person had to unlock
> the door for him.
>
> I don't wear a watch anymore. At some point in my life I intend to stop
> carrying a phone around everywhere, but until then my phone serves the
> purpose.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

He knew when to fold 

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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cashed in his chips?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the virus 
>> as far as I know.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.
>>> 
>>> Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Have reached the point where time of day is not important, I confess to
glancing at a calendar at least once a week and since I only use the "year
at a glance" style that has 12 months on one page, I never forget to turn
the page to the next month...
If the sun is in the east, it's morning, in the west, it's afternoon... if
it's dark, it's night time.. close enough...

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 2:26 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My Wittnauer mechanical self-wind with a Speidoflex band goes well with any
> vintage.
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:08 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> > > I still wear a rubber Timex. Probably because I always wore a watch.
> > > After I retired I realized I needed a watch that showed the date as
> well
> > as the day of the week.
> > > My Timex has two times (T1 and T2) that I use doe DST/EST switching
> > > But leap year 2020 got me messed up; had to reset everything..  Wonder
> > if I'll be around for the next one?
> >
> > I was at a hotel on Feb 29, 2020. All the card-reader locks on the rooms
> > had stopped working because the system could not handle that date. So
> > any time any guest had to get into his room a staff person had to unlock
> > the door for him.
> >
> > I don't wear a watch anymore. At some point in my life I intend to stop
> > carrying a phone around everywhere, but until then my phone serves the
> > purpose.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My Wittnauer mechanical self-wind with a Speidoflex band goes well with any
vintage.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 5:08 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I still wear a rubber Timex. Probably because I always wore a watch.
> > After I retired I realized I needed a watch that showed the date as well
> as the day of the week.
> > My Timex has two times (T1 and T2) that I use doe DST/EST switching
> > But leap year 2020 got me messed up; had to reset everything..  Wonder
> if I'll be around for the next one?
>
> I was at a hotel on Feb 29, 2020. All the card-reader locks on the rooms
> had stopped working because the system could not handle that date. So
> any time any guest had to get into his room a staff person had to unlock
> the door for him.
>
> I don't wear a watch anymore. At some point in my life I intend to stop
> carrying a phone around everywhere, but until then my phone serves the
> purpose.
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He was under hospice care.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 2:45 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Amen.
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Cashed in his chips?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the
> virus as far as I know.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.
> >>>
> >>> Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:

> I still wear a rubber Timex. Probably because I always wore a watch.  
> After I retired I realized I needed a watch that showed the date as well as 
> the day of the week.
> My Timex has two times (T1 and T2) that I use doe DST/EST switching
> But leap year 2020 got me messed up; had to reset everything..  Wonder if 
> I'll be around for the next one?

I was at a hotel on Feb 29, 2020. All the card-reader locks on the rooms
had stopped working because the system could not handle that date. So
any time any guest had to get into his room a staff person had to unlock
the door for him.

I don't wear a watch anymore. At some point in my life I intend to stop
carrying a phone around everywhere, but until then my phone serves the
purpose.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I still wear a rubber Timex. Probably because I always wore a watch.  
After I retired I realized I needed a watch that showed the date as well as the 
day of the week.
My Timex has two times (T1 and T2) that I use doe DST/EST switching
But leap year 2020 got me messed up; had to reset everything..  Wonder if I'll 
be around for the next one?

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes


No watch. Between cell phone and clocks they’re just not necessary anymore.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner arm OM603, vs OM602, VS OM606

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 07:09:46 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks Craig,
> 
> For posterity, and for those who own OM603,2,1 engines, I added the MB 
> part number from your other email and the bolt torque.
> If you own or anticipate owning an OM 603,2,1 copy the body below and 
> save it for future reference.


I ran across more information:


http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/312419-diy-1987-300d-serpentine-belt-tensioner-replacement.html

Sepentine Belt Tensioner, 300D 2.5 Turbo
Mercedes-Benz Genuine Factory Part
   Part Number:  606 230 00 56
 601 200 17 73
   Febi P/N: FB- 601 200 17 73

   Washer is 601 990 17 40
   The PN on the plastic block (perch) is
 601 203 03 28 2
  (yes the last 2 is cast on the part)




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Maybe there can be a banned gun list? A lot of people like guns, but I fail
to see how they relate to diesel mercedes. Trying to be helpful.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:48 AM MG via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dan,
> really???
>
> Overreaction
>
> I'm with Meade.
>
> MG
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Buy a car from the side of the road

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just go get it

--FT

On 3/21/20 1:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/588721438524080/


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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[MG via Mercedes]

Amen.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Cashed in his chips?

-D


On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the virus as 
far as I know.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.

Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!

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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cashed in his chips?

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the virus 
> as far as I know.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.
>> 
>> Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner arm OM603, vs OM602, VS OM606

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:30:44 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Curly - you could also spend $30 on a clutched pulley wheel for your
> alternator, and reduce the wear and tear on the tensioner and the little
> shock absorber.

Would you happen to have a part number for that part, Max?


Craig

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[MBZ] Buy a car from the side of the road

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/588721438524080/


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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I think he was in poor health for quite some time. Not related to the virus as 
far as I know.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.
> 
> Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I was wearing a Casio G-Shock for years. I am pretty rough on a watch, probably 
because of the way I wear them (dominant left wrist, face on the bottom of my 
wrist). I recently acquired a Fitbit Blaze, and I do like it, but it will 
probably kack quickly. It doesn't seem particularly robust. I do like all the 
health tracking it can do, but I do not appreciate the phone home but. I am 
pretty active for a geezer after all. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The likelyhood of passing away increases dramatically with age.

Sadly 81 isn't that much older than me!

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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I meant to say tranny behind the turbo motor 

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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's because it would be in front of the tranny!
> 
> However, I thought the turbo and NA tranny's were different.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have never heard of a turbo engine motor engine behind a 240d automatic.
>> 
>> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

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On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 12:03:14 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I gave up watches when I got the first cell phone. I hate wearing stuff
> that isn't essential. The Omega's and the Accutron are in a drawer
> somewhere ---

I have a Wenger S.A.K. Design Quartz good to a depth of 50 m of water
which I got from my father's estate, but I damaged the flexible band
and have not taken the time to repair it so I have not been able to
wear it for a while. I do still feel inconvienced by not having it
on my wrist.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

He knew when to fold ‘em.

Bob R

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Subject: [MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

Now I hear Kenny Rogers has died. 

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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 11:38:26 -0400 Michael Esh via Mercedes
 wrote:


I converted a '82 240D from a four-cylinder engine with an automatic
transmission to a five-cylinder naturally-aspirated engine with a manual
transmission at the conclusion of my grad school stint. I was fortunate
to have a 123.123 Euro car on hand at a nearby salvage yard from which to
get parts. I chose the naturally-aspirated engine because I wanted simple
and did not want the complication of a turbo engine.


> will the 240D transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or
> performance issues?

It should bolt up straight away. If it does not, there is a "plate" on
the back of each engine to which the bellhousing bolts which you can take
from the OM616.912 to bolt onto the OM617.952. That is referenced in the
list below as 110 011 15 45.


> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 

Yes, the sensible thing to do! That was one of the benefits I had when I
turned the 240D into the 240D/3.0. I did the swap primarily, though,
because the 240D automatic transmission was severely damaged deep inside
and I thought the OM616 was weak as well. I didn't want to spend $2500 to
have Ben's Workshop in Austin, TX replace the transmission and still have
the OM616.


Craig


P.S. The list of part numbers I developed (with a terminal "R" meaning
 I bought the part from Rusty and a terminal "D" meaning I bought
 the part from the Mercedes Dealer in Austin) is:

Lock lube   001 989 26 51 10
Key Blank Head  000 766 44 06
R main fuel filter  001 092 05 01 R
main fuel filter o-rings007 603 01 81 01
inline fuel filter  001 477 79 01 R
oil filter  617 180 00 09 R
oil filter cover stem o-rings   015 997 94 48 R
air filter  001 094 95 04 R
Vacuum line oil trapping filter 000 078 06 56 

Steering damper 000 463 51 32 R
617 engine shock absorbers  123 240 09 48 R
617 transmission mount  123 240 25 18 R
617 motor mount 123 241 30 13 R
617 engine shock weld bracket, left 123 620 13 14 D
617 engine shock weld bracket, right123 620 14 14 D
617 engine lower oil pan115 010 04 28 R

air cleaner mounting isolators  617 988 01 11 D
617 improved crankcase ventilation hose 617 018 01 82 R
617 manifold gasket 617 142 07 80 R
exhaust manifold to tail pipe bolts 304 017 08 53 D
exhaust manifold to tail pipe nuts  000 990 32 50 D
water pump  110 200 17 20 R
power steering pump mounting bolts  304 014 08 09 D
power steering pump mounting bolt washers   000 137 08 204 D
tail pipe hangers ("rubber donuts") 124 492 00 44 D

prechamber  616 010 01 52 R
prechamber seal ring615 017 00 60 R
injector nozzle plate (seal) type 1 617 017 03 60 R
"  "  " "type 2 601 017 00 60 R
injector return line615 476 03 26 D
injector return line plug   403 070 00 55 D
injection pump mounting gasket  616 074 00 80 R
large banjo bolt copper seal ring   N007603014405 R
small banjo bolt copper seal ring   007 603 012 111 R
fuel pump/main filter plastic hose w/banjo fit. 615 070 42 32 R
inj. pump/injector return plasic hose w/banj.ft 615 070 56 32 R
inj. pump plastic fuel hose w/banjo fittings615 070 40 32 R
diesel fuel return  007 997 16 82 R

engine plate (to which bell housing bolts)  110 011 15 45
manual transmission pilot bearing   115 980 01 15 R
manual transmission flywheel-to-crank bolts 615 032 05 71 R
615, 616 stick-shift flywheel   115 032 06 01
617 stick-shift flywheel617 032 00 01
clutch disk 010 250 34 03 R
clutch pressure plate   004 250 32 04 R
clutch throw-out bearing000 250 55 15 R
clutch slave cylinder   001 295 68 07 R
clutch slave cylinder to bell housing gasket110 138 41 30 D
clutch master cylinder/brake reservoir tubing   009 997 38 82 D
Transmission tunnel hole plug   000 997 40 20 D
Bellhousing inspection hole plug617 014 04 33 R
clutch switch to cutoff cruise control  004 545 18 14 D
clutch switch mounting nut  000 439 08 213 D
clutch switch mounting lock washer  000 137 08 212 D
clutch switch bracket   123 545 21 40 D
clutch switch bracket 

Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's because it would be in front of the tranny!

However, I thought the turbo and NA tranny's were different.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I have never heard of a turbo engine motor engine behind a 240d automatic.
>
>
-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I gave up watches when I got the first cell phone. I hate wearing stuff
that isn't essential. The Omega's and the Accutron are in a drawer
somewhere ---

>
> --
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[MBZ] It just keeps getting worse

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Now I hear Kenny Rogers has died. 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[MG via Mercedes]

Cassio g-shock. If you go below 350 feet then you 
are probably dead anyway, unless you are a real 
professional.


Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Seiko 7009 no matter what I'm doing except when immersion in water is part of 
it.  Take it off then.
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never heard of a turbo engine motor engine behind a 240d automatic. 

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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Mike Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash,
> 
> 
> Transmission in 240D is good, transimssion in 300D is trash. 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with Floyd. Unless there’s a difference in transmissions, why not 
>> just swap the whole assembly (engine/transmission)? It’s far easier to do it 
>> that way, too.
>> 
>> Everything should bolt up, I would expect. Good time to replace stuff like 
>> motor mounts and fuel lines while you’ve got the engine out, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 
>>> 300D with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any 
>>> information on moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D 
>>> chassis   
>>> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D 
>>> transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
>>> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
>>> better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
>>> showing its  age. 
>>> Any help would be appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[MG via Mercedes]

Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on the 
slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the wagon for 
some reason).

Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one slide 
bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back in, put 
new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.

Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed correctly, they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the floating half.  Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good. 


Wear sensor is very similar.
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash,


Transmission in 240D is good, transimssion in 300D is trash. 


> On Mar 21, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Floyd. Unless there’s a difference in transmissions, why not 
> just swap the whole assembly (engine/transmission)? It’s far easier to do it 
> that way, too.
> 
> Everything should bolt up, I would expect. Good time to replace stuff like 
> motor mounts and fuel lines while you’ve got the engine out, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
>> with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
>> moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
>> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D 
>> transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
>> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 
>> 
>> I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
>> better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
>> showing its  age. 
>> Any help would be appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 12:11:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I agree with Floyd. Unless there’s a difference in transmissions, why
> not just swap the whole assembly (engine/transmission)? It’s far easier
> to do it that way, too.
> 
> Everything should bolt up, I would expect. Good time to replace stuff
> like motor mounts and fuel lines while you’ve got the engine out, too.


Note his comment about the 300D transmission:


> > 240D chassis Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[MG via Mercedes]

Dan,
really???

Overreaction

I'm with Meade.

MG

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Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I wear a 20 year old citizen watch that self charges somehow. I feel naked 
without it. 

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> On Mar 21, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No watch. Between cell phone and clocks they’re just not necessary anymore.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Let's all talk about what watch we wear when we (did you catch my 
>> alliteration there?) drive a particular car.  Like for a diesel, a gasser, 
>> an SL, an E, an S, that sort of thing.
>> 
>> I myself don't wear a watch, the cars have clocks in them that more or less 
>> work, and I generally don't particularly care what time it is but if I need 
>> to I look at my iFon which is linked to Atomic Time!
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Turns out I did get some, just checked, forgot they were in the box so 
I'm all good!


--FT

On 3/21/20 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I buy those in bulk from whoever has them the cheapest. You’ll always need 
them, they fit so many different models pre-2000, you know you’re going to need 
some.

That’s like always having a tube of brake paste handy. The big tube from the 
dealer is cheap and is a near lifetime supply.

-D


On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Thanks.  I think I forgot wear sensors.  ugh.

--FT

On 3/21/20 11:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on the 
slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the wagon for 
some reason).

Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one slide 
bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back in, put 
new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.

Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed correctly, 
they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the floating half.  
Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good.

Wear sensor is very similar.
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[MBZ] OT No-spin, no-politics Covid update

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

These guys are the Real Deal, just the facts, no hype

https://peterattiamd.com/peterhotez2/

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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I agree with Floyd. Unless there’s a difference in transmissions, why not just 
swap the whole assembly (engine/transmission)? It’s far easier to do it that 
way, too.

Everything should bolt up, I would expect. Good time to replace stuff like 
motor mounts and fuel lines while you’ve got the engine out, too.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
> with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
> moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
> Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D 
> transmission matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
> The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 
> 
> I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
> better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
> showing its  age. 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Larry's 300D 2.5

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

HI Curly,
Sorry to hear you are having more problems with "my" 300D.  I don't 
recall any turbo problems, but it sat for about a year while I figured 
out what to do with it.  The only way I ever checked to confirm things 
were as they should be was to warm it up then do a 0-60 test looking for 
around 6+ Seconds.  (I may be wrong on the # of seconds as it's been a 
while since I did that test.)


I was going to adjust the ALDA at one point but the professor said the 
91 ALDA did not benefit from adjusting.  Can't recall the specifics.


So the rear wheels aligned without trouble?  I know you put a lot of 
work into the rear suspension!


Stay safe!
Larry

On 3/6/2020 10:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Checked over the vacuum system.   did not find any problems.   Blew 
out the manifold fitting and line to overboost cutout.   It is a 
little better, but not where it should be.   I don't have a vacuum 
gauge here to check actual vacuum. When driving you can tell is is 
getting some boost, but not where it should be.


What should be next?   Turn up the alda?

The 87 300D will chirp the tires going from 1st to 2nd.   THis one is 
nowhere near that.   With a missing cyl, it may never chirp the tires, 
but all y'all have talked about how these are better than the 87.   So 
far, I like the 87/OM603 better.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
March 4, 2020 at 7:29 AM
You probably have a vacuum leak somewhere. The turbo is vacuum 
operated on these rather than pressure. Low vacuum equals no boost.


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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I buy those in bulk from whoever has them the cheapest. You’ll always need 
them, they fit so many different models pre-2000, you know you’re going to need 
some.

That’s like always having a tube of brake paste handy. The big tube from the 
dealer is cheap and is a near lifetime supply.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I think I forgot wear sensors.  ugh.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/21/20 11:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on the 
>> slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the wagon for 
>> some reason).
>> 
>> Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one 
>> slide bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back 
>> in, put new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.
>> 
>> Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed 
>> correctly, they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the 
>> floating half.  Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good.
>> 
>> Wear sensor is very similar.
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Re: [MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Is the 300 tranny bad?  Just swap the whole kit in the 240 chassis?

I have not done it myself so don't know any particular details.

--FT

On 3/21/20 11:38 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:

I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis
Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D transmission 
matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?
The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep.

I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
showing its  age.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Mike

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[MBZ] Cheap green E320 banged up

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Otherwise looks pretty nice, could be a good deal for a cheap driver

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2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
$1,300
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Listed a day ago in Summerville, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
18.0 MPG city · 26.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
Very good condition 


 Typical Features…

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   Leather
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   Moon Roof
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   Alloy Wheels
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   ABS (4-Wheel)
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 Seller's description…

2001 model, 202k, salvage title, very clean, 0 mechanical issues, car 
needs rear back door, rear door is hit, yes it closes and opens as of 
right now, cold ac, heat, nice sound system, good tires all around, good 
brakes, very clean leather seats, asking $1300 obo...



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[MBZ] Engine swap 1984 300D to 1983 240D

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have a rust free 1983 240D with a worn out engine and a rusted out 84 300D 
with a strong engine. Looking for a write up or link to any information on 
moving the engine from 1984 300D turbo chassis to 1983 240D chassis   
Both are automatics  The 300D transmission is trash, will the 240D transmission 
matchup to 300D without modifications or performance issues?  
The 240 has manual HVAC that I want keep. 

I’ve already moved the differential from the 300D to the 240D and like the 
better highway performance however the 240 engine is pretty worn out and 
showing its  age. 
Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Thanks.  I think I forgot wear sensors.  ugh.

--FT

On 3/21/20 11:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on the 
slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the wagon for 
some reason).

Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one slide 
bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back in, put 
new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.

Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed correctly, 
they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the floating half.  
Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good.

Wear sensor is very similar.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I did buy a coupla SKMEI chinee watches for like $9 apiece, one has 
about 437 functions and is about the size of a dinner plate so it looks 
Very Official, the other one arrived with a dead battery, it was 
supposed to be some kind of monitor watch.  I guess I should put a 
battery in it.  I don't use either of them though.


--FT

On 3/21/20 11:08 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Seiko 7009 no matter what I'm doing except when immersion in water is part of 
it.  Take it off then.
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thank you mom

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 10:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> While the subject matter of this post was not political in it’s nature,
> the vehicle in which it was delivered clearly was. As a result the list
> member who posted it has been placed on moderation.
>
> This is a reminder to all that while topical posts are welcome, the
> vehicle in which they are delivered is unwelcome if it is political or
> inflammatory in nature. There have been numerous complaints from list
> members regarding the politicizing of subject matter in recent days, and as
> a result the List Mom will take a very strong position against such posts
> and the members who post them.
>
> Let’s stick to Mercedes subject matter whenever possible. If you’re going
> to post something topical, be sure to read it first and remove any
> political or inflammatory content. There will be no exceptions.
>
> Thank you,
>
> List Mom
>
>
>
> > On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
> > at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.
> > He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
> > were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
> > sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
> > and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
> > rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
> > home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
> > of him?
> >
> >
> > Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
> >
> >
> > Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability
> to drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus.
> Even gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase their first-ever gun
> in many places.
> >
> > Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun
> online. “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the
> incredible demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as you’ll
> see from the video below, even Californians are waiting in long lines at
> the gun shop!
> >
> > First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday,
> the FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by
> 300%. That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
> >
> > In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right now.
> But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three days to
> investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized to buy a gun
> or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been stretched out to “we’ll
> get back to you sometime in the future.”
> >
> > While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over
> the internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from the
> past week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47 states,
> excluding Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They describe
> demand as “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen previously.
> >
> > Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a
> typo. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between
> 1,001 and 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are up
> 501 to 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
> >
> > States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and
> South Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a
> measly 100%. I guess they were ready in those states.
> >
> > And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
> >
> >
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes - Stuff to Do

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oops! Forgot these were the floating calipers. What Peter said, still easy.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Easy peasey. Take the wheel off, knock the pins out, pull the pads back and 
> compress the pistons with a C clamp. Grease up the edges and back with the 
> majikal MB brake paste and reassemble.
> 
> 30-45 minute job of you’ve got everything there and ready to go.
> 
> I just took an assessment of my stuff and have the following parts/jobs to do:
> 
> SL500 - front shocks
> E320 wagon - motor mounts, fuel filter
> E320 sedan - fuel filter, wiper blade
> ML500 - left front tie rod and steering rack boot
> 
> Drove the SL500 for the first time in a long time this morning to refuel it. 
> Looks like the headliner needs replacement. I’ll take it out and drop it off 
> at my upholstery guy, as he loves to do the ones when it comes to him out of 
> the car. I need to dig out Jim’s stuff on the low oil level sender, as it’s 
> lit continuously. I’m sure the little PC board needs a new set of caps.
> 
> Wish it was a little cooler outside...
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The daughter unit arrived last night to isolate with me for awhile, she was 
>> going crazy at her place.  I had ordered a set of brake pads some weeks ago 
>> for her 124 so I guess we will putting them on soon.  Straightforward job?  
>> Anything much different from a 123 or 126?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Seiko 7009 no matter what I'm doing except when immersion in water is part of 
it.  Take it off then.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No watch. Between cell phone and clocks they’re just not necessary anymore.

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 11:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let's all talk about what watch we wear when we (did you catch my 
> alliteration there?) drive a particular car.  Like for a diesel, a gasser, an 
> SL, an E, an S, that sort of thing.
> 
> I myself don't wear a watch, the cars have clocks in them that more or less 
> work, and I generally don't particularly care what time it is but if I need 
> to I look at my iFon which is linked to Atomic Time!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes - Stuff to Do

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Easy peasey. Take the wheel off, knock the pins out, pull the pads back and 
compress the pistons with a C clamp. Grease up the edges and back with the 
majikal MB brake paste and reassemble.

30-45 minute job of you’ve got everything there and ready to go.

I just took an assessment of my stuff and have the following parts/jobs to do:

SL500 - front shocks
E320 wagon - motor mounts, fuel filter
E320 sedan - fuel filter, wiper blade
ML500 - left front tie rod and steering rack boot

Drove the SL500 for the first time in a long time this morning to refuel it. 
Looks like the headliner needs replacement. I’ll take it out and drop it off at 
my upholstery guy, as he loves to do the ones when it comes to him out of the 
car. I need to dig out Jim’s stuff on the low oil level sender, as it’s lit 
continuously. I’m sure the little PC board needs a new set of caps.

Wish it was a little cooler outside...

-D

> On Mar 21, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The daughter unit arrived last night to isolate with me for awhile, she was 
> going crazy at her place.  I had ordered a set of brake pads some weeks ago 
> for her 124 so I guess we will putting them on soon.  Straightforward job?  
> Anything much different from a 123 or 126?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 brakes

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Rears are identical, clean the calipers well and use some anti-sieze on the 
slots to help preventing brake drag (this is a real problem on the wagon for 
some reason).

Fronts are easier as it's a single piston floating caliper.  Remove one slide 
bolt, rotate the floating half up and remove pads, press piston back in, put 
new pads in, and rotate floating half back down and install bolt.

Only thing to watch for is getting the spring on the pads installed correctly, 
they have to ride on the flats on the sidle of the slot in the floating half.  
Easy to get them in the slot, which is not good. 

Wear sensor is very similar.
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[MBZ] Hey, here's a noncontroversial Benz idea

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Let's all talk about what watch we wear when we (did you catch my 
alliteration there?) drive a particular car.  Like for a diesel, a 
gasser, an SL, an E, an S, that sort of thing.


I myself don't wear a watch, the cars have clocks in them that more or 
less work, and I generally don't particularly care what time it is but 
if I need to I look at my iFon which is linked to Atomic Time!


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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am a moderate, I drive firmly down the middle of the road

--FT

On 3/21/20 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] 124 brakes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The daughter unit arrived last night to isolate with me for awhile, she 
was going crazy at her place.  I had ordered a set of brake pads some 
weeks ago for her 124 so I guess we will putting them on soon.  
Straightforward job?  Anything much different from a 123 or 126?


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[MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While the subject matter of this post was not political in it’s nature, the 
vehicle in which it was delivered clearly was. As a result the list member who 
posted it has been placed on moderation.

This is a reminder to all that while topical posts are welcome, the vehicle in 
which they are delivered is unwelcome if it is political or inflammatory in 
nature. There have been numerous complaints from list members regarding the 
politicizing of subject matter in recent days, and as a result the List Mom 
will take a very strong position against such posts and the members who post 
them.

Let’s stick to Mercedes subject matter whenever possible. If you’re going to 
post something topical, be sure to read it first and remove any political or 
inflammatory content. There will be no exceptions.

Thank you,

List Mom



> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
> at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.  
> He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
> were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
> sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
> and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
> rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
> home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
> of him?
> 
> 
> Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
> 
> 
> Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability to 
> drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus. Even 
> gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase their first-ever gun in 
> many places.
> 
> Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun online. 
> “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the incredible 
> demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as you’ll see from the 
> video below, even Californians are waiting in long lines at the gun shop!
> 
> First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday, the 
> FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by 300%. 
> That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
> 
> In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background 
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right now. 
> But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three days to 
> investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized to buy a gun 
> or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been stretched out to “we’ll 
> get back to you sometime in the future.”
> 
> While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over the 
> internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from the past 
> week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47 states, excluding 
> Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They describe demand as 
> “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen previously.
> 
> Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a typo. 
> Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between 1,001 and 
> 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are up 501 to 
> 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
> 
> States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and South 
> Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a measly 100%. 
> I guess they were ready in those states.
> 
> And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words 
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
> 
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: = ON TOPIC 124 2.5 overheating

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Did you rule out fan clutch? That is what made my 124 2.5t overheat. It was
a  viscous clutch.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:32 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Did you ever get the aux fan circuits to work correctly?  Did that solve
> the overheating problem?
> -
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> Charleston SC
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: = ON TOPIC 124 2.5 overheating

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Did you ever get the aux fan circuits to work correctly?  Did that solve
the overheating problem?
-
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner arm OM603, vs OM602, VS OM606

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Curly - you could also spend $30 on a clutched pulley wheel for your
alternator, and reduce the wear and tear on the tensioner and the little
shock absorber.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Curly, that's a good deal on membership.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 8:40 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>   I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
>   at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.
>   He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
>   were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
>   sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
>   and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
>   rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
>   home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
>   of him?
>
>
>   Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
>
>
> Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability
> to drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan
> Coronavirus. Even gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase
> their first-ever gun in many places.
>
> Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun
> online. “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the
> incredible demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as
> you’ll see from the video below, even Californians are waiting in long
> lines at the gun shop!
>
> First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday,
> the FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by
> 300%. That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
>
> In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right
> now. But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three
> days to investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized
> to buy a gun or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been
> stretched out to “we’ll get back to you sometime in the future.”
>
> While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over
> the internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from
> the past week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47
> states, excluding Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They
> describe demand as “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen
> previously.
>
> Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a
> typo. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between
> 1,001 and 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are
> up 501 to 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
>
> States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and
> South Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a
> measly 100%. I guess they were ready in those states.
>
> And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
>
>
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
>
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner arm OM603, vs OM602, VS OM606

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I checked my records on the SDL, which are a bit incomplete.  In 2005:

> I put the SDL back together.  The (2) new belt tensioner bearings I
> bought were 12mm thick, to replace the (1) 30mm original bearing.
> That meant I had to come up with 6mm of spacer, which I made out of
> two 3mm thick fender washers in which I burned a bigger center hole
> with the torch.  Messy job, and I probably need to re-do it at some
> time, since it turned out a little too thick and the circlip wouldn't
> go in.  But I need a new belt anyway, and I'll tackle it again when it
> comes in.

The link:

http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/SDLlog.html#11Dec2005 


Using a ball bearing in rocking service is bad, bad, bad.  Some kind of
sleeve bearing would probably be much better.  IIRC, the original 30mm
bearing just had two ball races in a single deep housing, it wasn't a
roller bearing or anything like that, which might have survived better
in rocking service.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Can you please stop posting this garbage?


On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 8:40 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>   I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
>   at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.
>   He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
>   were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
>   sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
>   and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
>   rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
>   home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
>   of him?
>
>
>   Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
>
>
> Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability
> to drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan
> Coronavirus. Even gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase
> their first-ever gun in many places.
>
> Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun
> online. “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the
> incredible demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as
> you’ll see from the video below, even Californians are waiting in long
> lines at the gun shop!
>
> First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday,
> the FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by
> 300%. That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
>
> In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right
> now. But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three
> days to investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized
> to buy a gun or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been
> stretched out to “we’ll get back to you sometime in the future.”
>
> While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over
> the internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from
> the past week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47
> states, excluding Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They
> describe demand as “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen
> previously.
>
> Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a
> typo. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between
> 1,001 and 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are
> up 501 to 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
>
> States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and
> South Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a
> measly 100%. I guess they were ready in those states.
>
> And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
>
>
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
>
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[MBZ] OT: other effects of wuhan CV

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

 I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
 at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.  
 He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
 were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
 sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
 and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
 rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
 home state sales are 40 times normal!    Think anyone there is scared
 of him?


 Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama


Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability 
to drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan 
Coronavirus. Even gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase 
their first-ever gun in many places.


Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun 
online. “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the 
incredible demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as 
you’ll see from the video below, even Californians are waiting in long 
lines at the gun shop!


First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday, 
the FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by 
300%. That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.


In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background 
check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right 
now. But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three 
days to investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized 
to buy a gun or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been 
stretched out to “we’ll get back to you sometime in the future.”


While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over 
the internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from 
the past week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47 
states, excluding Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They 
describe demand as “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen previously.


Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a 
typo. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between 
1,001 and 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are 
up 501 to 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.


States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and 
South Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a 
measly 100%. I guess they were ready in those states.


And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words 
“necessary to the security of a free state!”


https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/

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[MBZ] Support the Constitution and Bill of Rights

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

From an email I received:

Among the many Covid-19 inspired cancellations recently has been the 
National Rifle Association’s Annual Meeting in Nashville.  That event 
usually generates a membership jump of several, if not tens of, 
thousands (because entrance is free but for NRA members only, so the 
cost of admission is to join).  Local gun shows, another good source of 
new NRA Members, are also being curtailed.


So yes, I’m still hawking NRA Memberships as the best response in our 
price range to people like [name removed for list nannies] who intend to 
spend, spend, spend (and lie,lie,lie) until the Second Amendment and our 
gun rights are but a faded memory.  My own very real coronavirus risk 
factors are hampering my efforts as an NRA Recruiter; the discounts I 
offer are difficult to accomplish except in person.  I do however have 
an alternative that can work. Email me 
 at 
jmo...@hotmail.com .  I’ll respond with an 
active web link 
*//*and 
instructions.  A person will use that particular link, purchase a 
standard Annual Membership for $30, the lowest possible price anywhere 
online, which includes a monthly magazine from four choices (/American 
Rifleman/. /American/ /Hunter/, /America’s First Freedom/ or /Shooting 
Illustrated/).  As soon as I’ve confirmed that you used my link (which 
contains my NRA Recruiter ID number) I will initiate an application for 
an Associate Membership for anyone you name at no additional cost to 
you.  Associate Memberships normally cost $10 and are exactly the same 
as full but with no monthly magazine.  So a person can join at the 
lowest available rate and add a family member or friend for absolutely 
nothing, doubling his or her effect on the membership total which is so 
vital during an election year.  Email me or phone (228 324-0414) for 
further details.


There really is no time to lose especially due to the lost ground from 
the cancellations noted above.  Those membership numbers ideally should 
spike before the nominating conventions and no later than late 
September.  Encourage everyone you can to join.  This isn’t just about 
guns.  The NRA’s charter promises guardianship and support of the entire 
Constitution.  Once my quarantine is lifted and I can safely venture 
forth, The Associate Memberships will be available for $6 – SIX DOLLARS! 
– c’mon, man!

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[MBZ] Support your favorite battleships

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

-- Forwarded message -
From: *Jonathan Williams, President/CEO* >

Date: Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 4:17 PM
Subject: Museum Update + Safer at Home

United We Stand.

Donate Today

*Museum Update*


20 March 2020

IOWA Family:

As many of you know, multiple orders were issued in California 
yesterday to keep the population "Safer at Home."  In both the County 
and City of Los Angeles, these orders were issued to go until April 
19th with a possibility of extending.  This order prevents us from 
reopening until April 19th at the earliest.  You can view the 
information surrounding this order at https://corona-virus.la/.


April 19th is always a difficult date for anyone involved with the 
Battleship IOWA.  April 19th is the anniversary date of the Turret 2 
explosion in 1989 when 47 sailors lost their lives.  Every year we 
hold a service in memory of these sailors and to support those whose 
lives and memories will forever be affected.  Depending on how the 
COVID-19 situation evolves, we will adjust the memorial service to 
ensure that this date is not forgotten.


We are in this crisis together!  Our local, state, and federal 
governments are working on relief for each and every American to try 
and reduce the hardship.  New information and programs are being 
released daily.  I will try to include resources that I am aware of at 
the bottom of my messages, as they may be helpful to you.


Thank you to all of those that have donated to date!  We are working 
to keep the donor list updated in our e-blasts, but it may lag a few 
days behind.  Please reach out to Joleen if you have any questions.


*OVERALL IMPACT TO IOWA*
The impact is tremendous as 69% of our revenue is generated from 
ticket sales, event rentals, and overnight programs.  These cover the 
essential costs to operate the ship including staffing, maintenance, 
and programs. We continue to have numerous cancellations and 
postponements of group tours, overnights, and event rentals.  We have 
suspended all non-critical Accounts Payable until we reopen or receive 
sufficient funding from the several funding sources we are working on. 
Additionally, we have eliminated all non-essential power usage for six 
days per week.  We have reduced hours and staffing to essential levels 
and are looking at potential further reductions to critical levels in 
the coming weeks if we are unable to raise sufficient funding to carry 
us through for 8 to 10 weeks minimum.  I know the financial needs are 
great in our communities, but if you are able, please consider helping 
us weather this crisis by donating online or contact Joleen at 
developm...@labattleship.com for assistance.  THANK YOU!


What our remaining staff is currently focused on:
•* Virtual Education Programs. * The Education Team is working on 
virtual STEM-learning opportunities to keep our youth engaged.  Our 
STEM Education programs are sponsored by Marathon Petroleum with 
additional support from LAUSD Beyond the Bell, Norris Foundation, and 
Crail-Johnson Foundation.  Our plan is to release these modules next 
week through YouTube and our social media networks.  If you are 
interested in hearing more, contact Ro Moser at rmo...@labattleship.com.
•* IOWA Virtual Tour by Guru.*  Download the FREE Battleship IOWA app 
from your Apple or Android store and enjoy a virtual tour with videos, 
360 virtual photos, and a variety of content.  The IOWA Virtual Tour 
has content for all ages and we encourage you to enjoy it at home!
• *Compliance with “Safer at Home” Order. * We began implementing a 
requirement for all non-essential crew to work from home beginning on 
March 13th.  Essential crew aboard IOWA are there to ensure the safety 
and security of the vessel.  There are inherent safety risks related 
to a floating vessel that is soft moored at the country’s largest Port 
complex.  We must ensure that the IOWA remains safely moored and not 
in a hazardous condition to our community.  Therefore, the only crew 
permitted at the ship are those in the Operations and Security 
departments.  The crew that is aboard ship are required to maintain 
social distancing, which is six feet from each other at all times.
•* USNS Mercy and Surface Navy. * It was announced in the media 
yesterday that the Governor of California requested the US Navy to 
deploy the USNS Mercy to the Port of Los Angeles.  Currently we are 
not aware of any additional details of this possible deployment.  I 
bring this up to highlight Humanitarian Assistance as a key pillar of 
the Surface Navy. This is an opportunity to educate our public on the 
important role of the Surface Navy, as well as the DSCA (Defense 
Support of Civilian Authorities) planning program during LA Fleet 
Week. For the past four years, Emergency Response personnel of all 
levels of government have participated in a program during LA Fleet 
Week to plan for a major disaster like the one presented to us today. 

Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner arm OM603, vs OM602, VS OM606

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks Craig,

For posterity, and for those who own OM603,2,1 engines, I added the MB 
part number from your other email and the bolt torque.
If you own or anticipate owning an OM 603,2,1 copy the body below and 
save it for future reference.


You can buy generic 6004 bearings for around $1.50 each.   FAG or SKF 
are around $8 each currently.




Craig via Mercedes 
March 21, 2020 at 12:15 AM
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 23:56:03 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

I found your original email:
=
From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes_Discussion_List 
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] OM601, OM602, OM603 belt tensioner bearing info
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 09:00:52 -0600
Sender: "Mercedes" 
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/6.1.10

The bearing is FAG 565592 (previous posting had the number wrong)

ID: 20mm
OD: 42MM
Width: 29/30

Mine measured 29.3mm

Meyle number: 014 098 0020

The problem is that none appear to be available, except a few in yurp
for something in the area of 50 euro or 50 Bp when I can buy the whole
assembly for $45 from FCP.

I took Jim's solution and ordered 2 6004-2RS FAG bearings for under $12
delivered.
            6004s are 20x42x12 so you need a 4 to 6 mm wide spacer 
between them.   I ground off a ring from the old bearing, then ground it 
flat as I could, and assembled the spacer between the bearings in the arm.


Don't forget the spacer behind the arm!

Or the whole arm is MB# 601 200 17 73

Genuine Mercedes Bolt Cover at Center Bolt of Belt Tensioner Lever
P/N: 6012020622

Torque is 74 ft-lb.


=


Craig

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