Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[G Mann via Mercedes]

As you say, at this point, you have nothing to lose, so try this.
Search Craigs List local to you for an electric chain saw, used and cheap.
Or, buy a new one at Harbor Freight, new but cheap. You are going to
sacrifice the blade and chain, in the next step.

Spray paint a rectangle box on the ground around the broken water lines and
across the offending tree roots...  Use the chain saw to make plunge cuts
into the dirt along the paint lines to cut the roots and the dirt, and the
water lines out of the "broken zone.

Pick axe or shovel or what ever tool works to remove the dirt, cut tree
roots sections, and broken pipe to "open the box of repair".

Dig back at the ends to expose undamaged pipes for a clean glue and repair
joint.  Repair the pipes... fill the hole.. done... almost..
Go to harbor freight and buy a new bar and chain for the cheap chain
saw now you have a handy tool ... or sell it cheap on Craigs List.. or
donate it... you decide..

I have used the plunge cut on 3 trees todate soon will do it to remove
a palm tree which has huge root structure that is impossible to dig out
plunge cut a 4 side box and they pop out with a little effort. If you want,
you can file the teeth on a "dirt saw" chain and dress them up enough to
cut some more  Harbor Freight has electric chain saws on sale often...
$38 or so.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:04 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Dan wrote:
>
> > Both lines are  surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’
> > from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of
> > the tree have distorted and stressed the lines,
>
> > I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4”
> > surrounding these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather
> > fragile lines not to mention I would have to do some serious
> > excavating to get enough space to get my chain saw at them.
>
> Use an ax.  Replace that whole section with Sch 80 pipe.  Put the
> pipes in sand, and add zig-zags to allow pipe stretch.  That
> should gain you a few years.
>
> > There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the tree, as
> > there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t
> > rootbound.
>
> Close proximity to a tree is NOT what you want if long service is
> a goal.
>
> > Anyone else have an idea?
>
> It appears to me that _anything_ you do there would be short term
> - 5 year max - as the tree and roots will tear up anything you
> do.  Repairing the leak that's there will probably only last until
> it is stretched more.  Like this summer.
>
> Get to that zone another way, or kill the tree and put in new
> lines - or don't irrigate that zone.
>
> I think the tree will win no matter what you do unless you get at
> least 15 - 20 ft away.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

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> Craig wrote:

Hah!   backhoe.65.jpg sure looks like a green tree growing from
that root wad!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

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> Dan wrote:

> Both lines are  surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’
> from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of
> the tree have distorted and stressed the lines, 

> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4”
> surrounding these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather
> fragile lines not to mention I would have to do some serious
> excavating to get enough space to get my chain saw at them.

Use an ax.  Replace that whole section with Sch 80 pipe.  Put the
pipes in sand, and add zig-zags to allow pipe stretch.  That
should gain you a few years.

> There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the tree, as
> there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t
> rootbound.

Close proximity to a tree is NOT what you want if long service is
a goal.

> Anyone else have an idea? 

It appears to me that _anything_ you do there would be short term
- 5 year max - as the tree and roots will tear up anything you
do.  Repairing the leak that's there will probably only last until
it is stretched more.  Like this summer.

Get to that zone another way, or kill the tree and put in new
lines - or don't irrigate that zone.

I think the tree will win no matter what you do unless you get at
least 15 - 20 ft away.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Michael said - I vote for the sawsall, followed by wrapping the break
with heavy cloth saturated with the plastic epoxy, like jeans?

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:55 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Use and old chain/chain saw or a cheap sawsall  all and cut the roots.
>  It’s a bit of work but then it’s done.
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

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Use and old chain/chain saw or a cheap sawsall  all and cut the roots.   It’s a 
bit of work but then it’s done. 



> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
> 
> I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a joint at 
> a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut the 
> offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
> 
> There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The 
> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the portion 
> of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense. Both lines 
> are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ from an oak 
> tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree have distorted 
> and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the supply line from 
> my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out some. The bottom line 
> is under the same stress from the surrounding roots, but because the tee was 
> present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
> 
> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:  
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
> 
> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4” surrounding 
> these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile lines not to 
> mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get enough space to get 
> my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the 
> tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t rootbound.
> 
> So here’s my Hail Mary:
> 
> Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on the 
> break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the lines 
> slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape through 
> to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached pipe. The 
> gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width, if that.
> 
> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as the 
> sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can tell.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

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On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 16:53:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…

> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1
> 

> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose
> as the sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what
> I can tell.

If it hasn't worked for years, do you really need it to work?

Unless you are going to take the tree out, you will always have problems
with those lines, since the roots will continue to grow and will continue
to distort the pipes and make new breaks.

If you really want it to work, can you rent a trenching machine (as I
have done in the past) and run new lines 15 or 20 feet from the tree to
the area of the affected zone? You would, of course cut and cap the line
from the tree to the affected zone.

Note: 15 or 20 feet from the tree the roots could be 4" in diameter. That
  was the case for our house in Los Alamos where a tree on the south
  side of the driveway had been cut down because its roots had heaved
  the driveway. I rented a backhoe to take out the broken-up driveway
  and dug up the stump and its roots on the north side of the driveway
  at the same time -- see attached pictures.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Is this a turd worth messing with?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t think so. It has marginal value after you’ve done the repairs, mainly 
because of the mileage. 180k and you drop a couple grand fixing it?

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don,

My local FLAPS has the stuff on the shelf, so I ordered some for pickup 
tomorrow morning. I’m thinking I can cut some small scraps of 1” tubing to 
place over the crack to close the hole up a bit before I apply the stuff.

This is far simpler than trying to wrap something around it. And if it doesn’t 
work, on to the next suggestion!

More as I know it. Thanks!

-D


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:12 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm really impressed with this stuff.
> Permatex 84115 5-minute Plastic Weld Adhesive, 0.84 oz.
> They say it doesn't work with polyethylene, but it did great for me.  It's
> not so runny that it will drip away from where you are trying to join
> pipes, unlike JB Weld Plastic Weld, which it runny. Great if you need it to
> run inot a joint, not good otherwise. YMMV
> 
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can you cut a tee in half and epoxy or solvent weld the pieces to the
>> broken piece?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
>>> 
>>> I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a
>> joint at a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut
>> the offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
>>> 
>>> There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The
>> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the
>> portion of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense.
>> Both lines are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’
>> from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree
>> have distorted and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the
>> supply line from my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out
>> some. The bottom line is under the same stress from the surrounding roots,
>> but because the tee was present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
>>> 
>>> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:
>> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
>>> 
>>> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4”
>> surrounding these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile
>> lines not to mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get
>> enough space to get my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them
>> up and “bypass” the tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close
>> proximity that isn’t rootbound.
>>> 
>>> So here’s my Hail Mary:
>>> 
>>> Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on
>> the break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the
>> lines slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape
>> through to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached
>> pipe. The gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width,
>> if that.
>>> 
>>> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as
>> the sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can
>> tell.
>>> 
>>> -D
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> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] Kahrs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not hoarding, just keeping my supplies intact. I would really like to be able 
to use all this down time to spend some time at the range and hone my skills, 
but my range closed down a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why, as it would be 
quite simple to comply with social distancing on the range or shooting clays.

Put an email notice in to my supplier for bulk ammo a couple weeks ago. Nada. 
Nothing.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would like to talk about guns. Anybody here hoarding guns and ammo?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb.
>> No. Roses.
>> Fred.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought you were talking about guns?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Don, I may check that out.

What makes this repair especially challenging, other than the roots and such, 
is that the pipe has either cracked or pulled out of the tee, so the crack or 
opening is right at where the transition from the pipe goes into the fitting - 
so I’ve got different diameters to deal with on each end. The tee is intact, so 
splitting one and gluing it on top wouldn’t help, unfortunately.

I was thinking about splitting a piece of 1’ PVC to make a sleeve to cover the 
crack as much as possible, then maybe find something to go over the whole 
repair from the tee to the pipe.

Hmm. Thanks guys! Keep those suggestions coming!

I can try just about anything since this is outside and on a non-potable system.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:12 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm really impressed with this stuff.
> Permatex 84115 5-minute Plastic Weld Adhesive, 0.84 oz.
> They say it doesn't work with polyethylene, but it did great for me.  It's
> not so runny that it will drip away from where you are trying to join
> pipes, unlike JB Weld Plastic Weld, which it runny. Great if you need it to
> run inot a joint, not good otherwise. YMMV
> 
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can you cut a tee in half and epoxy or solvent weld the pieces to the
>> broken piece?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
>>> 
>>> I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a
>> joint at a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut
>> the offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
>>> 
>>> There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The
>> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the
>> portion of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense.
>> Both lines are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’
>> from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree
>> have distorted and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the
>> supply line from my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out
>> some. The bottom line is under the same stress from the surrounding roots,
>> but because the tee was present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
>>> 
>>> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:
>> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
>>> 
>>> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4”
>> surrounding these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile
>> lines not to mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get
>> enough space to get my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them
>> up and “bypass” the tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close
>> proximity that isn’t rootbound.
>>> 
>>> So here’s my Hail Mary:
>>> 
>>> Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on
>> the break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the
>> lines slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape
>> through to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached
>> pipe. The gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width,
>> if that.
>>> 
>>> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as
>> the sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can
>> tell.
>>> 
>>> -D
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[MBZ] Is this a turd worth messing with?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

2006 Mercedes-Benz E350 4Matic

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Re: [MBZ] Kahrs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would like to talk about guns. Anybody here hoarding guns and ammo?

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
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> 
> Kaleb.
> No. Roses.
> Fred.
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought you were talking about guns?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kahrs

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Kaleb.
No. Roses.
Fred.

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> I thought you were talking about guns?
>
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> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> >
> > 2001 Mercedes Benz c240
> >
> > https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/7110135872.html
> > 1999 S320 Mercedes Benz.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Kahrs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I thought you were talking about guns?

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> 2001 Mercedes Benz c240
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'm really impressed with this stuff.
Permatex 84115 5-minute Plastic Weld Adhesive, 0.84 oz.
They say it doesn't work with polyethylene, but it did great for me.  It's
not so runny that it will drip away from where you are trying to join
pipes, unlike JB Weld Plastic Weld, which it runny. Great if you need it to
run inot a joint, not good otherwise. YMMV

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:00 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Can you cut a tee in half and epoxy or solvent weld the pieces to the
> broken piece?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
> >
> > I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a
> joint at a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut
> the offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
> >
> > There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The
> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the
> portion of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense.
> Both lines are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’
> from an oak tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree
> have distorted and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the
> supply line from my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out
> some. The bottom line is under the same stress from the surrounding roots,
> but because the tee was present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
> >
> > See it here just after we had a good hard rain:
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
> >
> > I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4”
> surrounding these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile
> lines not to mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get
> enough space to get my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them
> up and “bypass” the tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close
> proximity that isn’t rootbound.
> >
> > So here’s my Hail Mary:
> >
> > Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on
> the break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the
> lines slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape
> through to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached
> pipe. The gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width,
> if that.
> >
> > Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as
> the sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can
> tell.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Can you cut a tee in half and epoxy or solvent weld the pieces to the broken 
piece?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…
> 
> I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a joint at 
> a “T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut the 
> offending portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…
> 
> There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The 
> bottom line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the portion 
> of the tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense. Both lines 
> are literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ from an oak 
> tree that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree have distorted 
> and stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the supply line from 
> my water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out some. The bottom line 
> is under the same stress from the surrounding roots, but because the tee was 
> present the joint on one side of the tee failed.
> 
> See it here just after we had a good hard rain:  
> http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 
> 
> I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4” surrounding 
> these lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile lines not to 
> mention I would have to do some serious excavating to get enough space to get 
> my chain saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the 
> tree, as there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t rootbound.
> 
> So here’s my Hail Mary:
> 
> Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on the 
> break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the lines 
> slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape through 
> to get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached pipe. The 
> gap or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width, if that.
> 
> Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as the 
> sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can tell.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Kahrs

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

S320 is in your hood. Filter  & M1 ATF?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> 2001 Mercedes Benz c240
>
> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/7110135872.html
> 1999 S320 Mercedes Benz.
>
> https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/pts/7107788652.html
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[MBZ] Kahrs

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

2001 Mercedes Benz c240

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pts/7110135872.html
1999 S320 Mercedes Benz.

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/pts/7107788652.html
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[MBZ] OT - Patching PVC Sprinkler Line Hack

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m asking because I literally have nothing to lose at this point…

I have a 1” schedule 20 PVC sprinkler line that is broken open at a joint at a 
“T” fitting. Normally I would dig up a portion of the line, cut the offending 
portion out and replace it with new pieces. But…

There are two 1” lines traveling together, one on top of the other. The bottom 
line has the tee that is broken at the joint on one side, the portion of the 
tee that is parallel to the other line if that makes sense. Both lines are 
literally surrounded with tree roots, as they’re barely 6’ from an oak tree 
that is probably 24” in diameter. The roots of the tree have distorted and 
stressed the lines, causing the top line, which is the supply line from my 
water meter to the sprinkler valves, to flatten out some. The bottom line is 
under the same stress from the surrounding roots, but because the tee was 
present the joint on one side of the tee failed.

See it here just after we had a good hard rain:  
http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 

I can’t possibly cut the roots, as some are as large as 3”-4” surrounding these 
lines. To do so would risk damaging the rather fragile lines not to mention I 
would have to do some serious excavating to get enough space to get my chain 
saw at them. There’s no way I could dig them up and “bypass” the tree, as 
there’s really nowhere to go in close proximity that isn’t rootbound.

So here’s my Hail Mary:

Get some of the Flexseal Flex Tape and try to wrap the affected area on the 
break at the tee. Because the roots have actually grown between the lines 
slightly, there’s probably enough of a gap that I can slip the tape through to 
get all the way around the fitting and still partially attached pipe. The gap 
or break in the pipe is probably 1/4” at it’s greatest width, if that.

Anyone else have an idea? At this point I really have nothing to lose as the 
sprinkler zone that’s affected hasn’t worked for years from what I can tell.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

More common was the warped top covers, which the Solex 4A1 also suffered from, 
because people would wail on the air cleaner hold down bolts.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lol, I'm sure most typical wrench turners who can't set up a Quadrajet 
> properly (and yes, it can be done, a least temporarily) and NEVER going to 
> get a pair of Zenith's set right.
> 
> Biggest problem is lack of maintenance on the heat riser flaps, with the 
> result that the base of the carbs warps and won't seal properly.  Quadrajets 
> are bad about warped bases, but it's not heat in that case, it's a design 
> defect.  Never seen a flat one unless someone had fixed the factory shape.  
> Using a chisel to hammer out the cap over the idle screw that doesn't need 
> any adjusting in most cases doesn't help.  Instructions call for drilling a 
> hole in the sheet metal cap and using a self-tapping screw to pull it out, 
> invariable some hammer mechanic takes a cold chisel and breaks the housing.  
> Naturally, that puts a lump on the bottom and it won't seal any more
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Seal Expander

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It would have been helpful for every single one that I owned ---

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:56 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I saw this recently in a trucking magazine:
>
> Leaking Oil?
>
> SealLube Seal Expander
>
> - Seals Leaks: Engines, transmissions, power steering & hydraulic systems
> - Restores flexibility, elasticity & tensile strength of all rubber seals
> - 100% non-clogging formula
> - One 8 oz. bottle treats up to 8 quarts of oil/fluid
> - Also available in gallons and cases
> - Works in hours, lasts for years, guaranteed!
>
> 800-434-9192
> www.SealLube.com
>
>
> Perhaps this would be helpful in someone's Benz.
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] Seal Expander

[Craig via Mercedes]

I saw this recently in a trucking magazine:

Leaking Oil?

SealLube Seal Expander

- Seals Leaks: Engines, transmissions, power steering & hydraulic systems
- Restores flexibility, elasticity & tensile strength of all rubber seals
- 100% non-clogging formula
- One 8 oz. bottle treats up to 8 quarts of oil/fluid
- Also available in gallons and cases
- Works in hours, lasts for years, guaranteed!

800-434-9192
www.SealLube.com


Perhaps this would be helpful in someone's Benz.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Coolest car for $1200

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Several references to cars that you could drive at "Lemans", but I think
they were referring to the concours d'lemons.  I would CA classifies this
annual event as an ESSENTIAL business, at least as essential as a golf
course or liquor store.  People would of course have to distance
themselves, as many of the entrants would likely be infected with some sort
of virus or bug.

https://24hoursoflemons.com/concours-d-lemons/


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> I liked the one at about 7:30 ---
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 12:08 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That was a real gas to watch.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:04 AM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4JSo1Qkruw&t=277
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>
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> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My son and I drove one of these all over CO and UT one summer when he as
12.  Surprisingly nimble and responsive car, as big as a yacht but very
comfy.  Try as I might I could not complain.

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> The across the street neighbors, in 1976, had this car exactly, with a
> matching Kingswood Estates wagon.  Same color for both. My dad, being an
> Oldsmobile man,  always said it looked like the Westerburs had two turds
> plopped down in their driveway.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:31 AM
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> Subject: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This
>
> And it’s not that far away, either!
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-chevrolet-impala-2/
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Coolest car for $1200

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I liked the one at about 7:30 ---

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was a real gas to watch.
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 6:04 AM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4JSo1Qkruw&t=277
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Lol, I'm sure most typical wrench turners who can't set up a Quadrajet properly 
(and yes, it can be done, a least temporarily) and NEVER going to get a pair of 
Zenith's set right.

Biggest problem is lack of maintenance on the heat riser flaps, with the result 
that the base of the carbs warps and won't seal properly.  Quadrajets are bad 
about warped bases, but it's not heat in that case, it's a design defect.  
Never seen a flat one unless someone had fixed the factory shape.  Using a 
chisel to hammer out the cap over the idle screw that doesn't need any 
adjusting in most cases doesn't help.  Instructions call for drilling a hole in 
the sheet metal cap and using a self-tapping screw to pull it out, invariable 
some hammer mechanic takes a cold chisel and breaks the housing.  Naturally, 
that puts a lump on the bottom and it won't seal any more

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The across the street neighbors, in 1976, had this car exactly, with a matching 
Kingswood Estates wagon.  Same color for both. My dad, being an Oldsmobile man, 
 always said it looked like the Westerburs had two turds plopped down in their 
driveway. 

Bob R

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:31 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

And it’s not that far away, either!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-chevrolet-impala-2/

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The 280 had a Solex 4 barrel.  According to my friend Hans, it's pretty much 
impossible to make it work reliably, one of the reasons it was changed to D-Jet.

D-jet has it's own peculiarities, and these days I'm not sure it's possible to 
find a working replacement manifold pressure sensor -- it's a mechanical 
bellows variable inductor, quite a monster.  

Anyway, the best thing to do is to swap it over to K-jet if you can find one 
that fits -- that one is reliable.

The 280 also need regular tappet adjustments, and is usually rather noisy -- 
tappets rattle at he correct clearance.

If I were rich, it would be a fun car to fix up (especially if it's a W115), 
but I'm not and I have two cars that need a ton of work or to go away already.
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[MBZ] AZ Bob Needs This

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And it’s not that far away, either!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-chevrolet-impala-2/

-D



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[MBZ] FW: 1997 Mercedes, E300D, Diesel

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Someone need this?

Bob R


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[MBZ] Maple Yellow 300SE L 3.5 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If you can stand the color combination, this is the one to own.  Looks to
have been extremely well maintained.

My '71 3.5 was tobacco brown/cognac, a much more attractive pairing.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not at all. I’ll let Jaime pile on, too. I love the Zeniths.

People give them a bad rap because they won’t take the time to set them up 
properly. I’ve said this a ton of times - if you don’t follow the setup and 
adjustment procedures to the letter, they won’t work well. I am of the belief 
that too many people familiar with domestic carbs tried dinking with them and 
got totally frustrated. You can’t just arbitrarily turn adjusting screws on 
them without going through the whole procedure.

They’re not a QuadraJet or Holley double-pumper.

I had a 1970 250C with an M130 and dual Zeniths and that thing would pull 
stumps.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought the dual Zeniths were the carbs from hell. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s an “E” model. Fuel injected. Far better than carbureted for this 
>> vintage. If it had a carb it would be a Solex 4A1, the carburetor from Hell.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look pretty 
>>> nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look at it 
>>> tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a timing 
 chain that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the stuff 
 is all rinky-dink minor things.
 
 Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as 
 clean as it looks.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667
> 
> 1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
> $2,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 160,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> Good condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND 
> RESPECTABLE OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there 
> has been many repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the 
> issues remaining. backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not 
> disclose all the things that need work. Here are The issues I've found: 
> the Timing belt needs to be tightened, coolant fluid container seems to 
> have a craxk but I'm not sure. needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 
> 10 miles wrong, lights in the back don't work or in the dash, turn 
> signals don't work in the dash or in front or back of car ( this might be 
> just a fuse issue) the speakers might be blown but it also might just 
> need a new radio. Seems to have trouble going over 40 but its more of a 
> city car anyway. Again i don't know much about it so I am selling this 
> for someone to have fun working on or for parts. Interested in trades for 
> small car or crossover in working condition.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A car for Dave

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Ask the seller about provenance and see what he says.

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> Rode hard and put up wet
>
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

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truth is banned


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Re: [MBZ] Coolest car for $1200

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That was a real gas to watch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I thought so too. My indy MB mechanic has a measuring stick he uses to
synch to he 2. I never had them but  my SIL did.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
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> I thought the dual Zeniths were the carbs from hell.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It’s an “E” model. Fuel injected. Far better than carbureted for this
> vintage. If it had a carb it would be a Solex 4A1, the carburetor from Hell.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look
> pretty nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look at
> it tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>> On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a
> timing chain that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the
> stuff is all rinky-dink minor things.
> >>>
> >>> Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as
> clean as it looks.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667
> 
>  1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
>  $2,500
>  Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/>
>  Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/109278069093110/>
> 
> 
>  About This Vehicle…
> 
>  Driven 160,000 miles
>  Automatic transmission
>  Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
>  Fuel type: Gasoline
>  Good condition <
> https://www.facebook.com/business/help/979881538883930>
> 
> 
>  Seller's description…
> 
>  THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND
> RESPECTABLE OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there has
> been many repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the issues
> remaining. backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not disclose all
> the things that need work. Here are The issues I've found: the Timing belt
> needs to be tightened, coolant fluid container seems to have a craxk but
> I'm not sure. needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong,
> lights in the back don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in
> the dash or in front or back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the
> speakers might be blown but it also might just need a new radio. Seems to
> have trouble going over 40 but its more of a city car anyway. Again i don't
> know much about it so I am selling this for someone to have fun working on
> or for parts. Interested in trades for small car or crossover in working
> condition.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I thought the dual Zeniths were the carbs from hell. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s an “E” model. Fuel injected. Far better than carbureted for this 
> vintage. If it had a carb it would be a Solex 4A1, the carburetor from Hell.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look pretty 
>> nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look at it 
>> tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a timing 
>>> chain that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the stuff is 
>>> all rinky-dink minor things.
>>> 
>>> Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as clean 
>>> as it looks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667
 
 1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
 $2,500
 Vehicles 
 Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 
 
 
 
 About This Vehicle…
 
 Driven 160,000 miles
 Automatic transmission
 Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
 Fuel type: Gasoline
 Good condition 
 
 
 Seller's description…
 
 THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE 
 OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there has been many 
 repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the issues 
 remaining. backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not disclose all 
 the things that need work. Here are The issues I've found: the Timing belt 
 needs to be tightened, coolant fluid container seems to have a craxk but 
 I'm not sure. needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong, 
 lights in the back don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in 
 the dash or in front or back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the 
 speakers might be blown but it also might just need a new radio. Seems to 
 have trouble going over 40 but its more of a city car anyway. Again i 
 don't know much about it so I am selling this for someone to have fun 
 working on or for parts. Interested in trades for small car or crossover 
 in working condition.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s an “E” model. Fuel injected. Far better than carbureted for this vintage. 
If it had a carb it would be a Solex 4A1, the carburetor from Hell.

-D


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look pretty 
> nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look at it 
> tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a timing 
>> chain that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the stuff is 
>> all rinky-dink minor things.
>> 
>> Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as clean 
>> as it looks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667
>>> 
>>> 1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
>>> $2,500
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 160,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
>>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>>> Good condition 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE 
>>> OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there has been many 
>>> repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the issues remaining. 
>>> backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not disclose all the things 
>>> that need work. Here are The issues I've found: the Timing belt needs to be 
>>> tightened, coolant fluid container seems to have a craxk but I'm not sure. 
>>> needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong, lights in the 
>>> back don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in the dash or in 
>>> front or back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the speakers might 
>>> be blown but it also might just need a new radio. Seems to have trouble 
>>> going over 40 but its more of a city car anyway. Again i don't know much 
>>> about it so I am selling this for someone to have fun working on or for 
>>> parts. Interested in trades for small car or crossover in working condition.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

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Not appropriate content for this list. The poster has been warned.

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> FYI.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> http://traffic.libsyn.com/thepublicsquare/Apr1820.mp3?dest-id=208554
> 
> Fri, 17 April 2020
> COVID Chronicles Update #8: Behind the Curtain
> 
> First we were told to listen to "the science". Then we were told to
> "follow the science". Now we are being told, "Pay no attention to the
> science behind the curtain." It may not be comfortable to ask elected
> officials tough questions in the midst of a crisis but that is what we
> are doing this week on The Public Square®.
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[MBZ] Update on The COVID Chronicles

[Craig via Mercedes]

FYI.


Craig


http://traffic.libsyn.com/thepublicsquare/Apr1820.mp3?dest-id=208554

Fri, 17 April 2020
COVID Chronicles Update #8: Behind the Curtain

First we were told to listen to "the science". Then we were told to
"follow the science". Now we are being told, "Pay no attention to the
science behind the curtain." It may not be comfortable to ask elected
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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

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On Sat, April 18, 2020 10:24 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>  I suppose I could
> drop a 500 in...

Yes, I believe the main value of the balance shaft sprocket cars is their
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Owner sez: In summerville atm it needs a tow. It works fine but it over 
heated and I believe the coolant container cracked so its not coming on 
atm. Is this fine with you

Very cool car needs more work than I can put in

ME: I have a bunch of old Benzes so working on them doesn't scare me, 
I'd be interested to see what happened to this car, it does look nice, 
hope the engine didn't get toasted from overheating -- that can blow out 
the head gasket and warp the head. Fixable but kinda major work.


I hope that didn't toast the engine, blow the head gasket, warp the 
head, etc.  I think I'll go take a look at it tomorrow.  Setting the 
stage for a LOBALL OFFER!


--FT

On 4/18/20 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look 
pretty nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look 
at it tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right


--FT

On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a 
timing chain that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of 
the stuff is all rinky-dink minor things.


Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as 
clean as it looks.


-D

On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667

1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
$2,500
Vehicles 

Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 




About This Vehicle…

Driven 160,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
Good condition 


Seller's description…

THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND 
RESPECTABLE OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and 
there has been many repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge 
to fix the issues remaining. backstory: I traded cars with someone 
who did not disclose all the things that need work. Here are The 
issues I've found: the Timing belt needs to be tightened, coolant 
fluid container seems to have a craxk but I'm not sure. needs new 
brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong, lights in the back 
don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in the dash or in 
front or back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the speakers 
might be blown but it also might just need a new radio. Seems to 
have trouble going over 40 but its more of a city car anyway. Again 
i don't know much about it so I am selling this for someone to have 
fun working on or for parts. Interested in trades for small car or 
crossover in working condition.


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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I sent him back a message saying it is basically a parts car, I wouldn't 
want to insult him with a low offer (well, I wouldn't mind doing 
that...) but that is kinda where it is given the issue.  I ran the VIN 
and all these 06s pretty much were affected up to a certain engine 
number, which this car falls into the range.   Looks like there was some 
kind of class action on it that expired in 2015.


I sent him a note, no response yet, I'll let him sit on it the idea of a 
LOBALL OFFER


--FT

On 4/18/20 10:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed. You should run away from this as if your hair was on fire. Known issue, 
no cheap fix short of an engine rebuild. Their ask is stupid considering the 
issue at hand.

-D


On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The sprockets wear to the point the cams are no longer in time.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

The guy is pretty cranky, I guess if his car is f'd I would be too.  Maybe 
I'll take a road trip up to Murder Beach tomorrow and take a look at it, take 
the fancy computer and do a scan on it, see exactly what it is throwing.  I'm 
not sure why cam issues would cause limp mode unless the nannies are trying to 
keep it from imploding

--FT


what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
OK thanks
Is it not running well, shaking, any particular issues?


Michael
Check engine came on. Car went into a limp mode and mechanic said balance shaft 
is bad and just sell the car
ah. Did he put a scanner on it to see what the code indicated?
limp mode can be caused by a lot of issues, not all particularly severe, a scan 
will indicate what the particular fault is


Michael
Read sellers description completely
Gotcha. You around tomorrow?


Michael
Yes. PM me when you would like to look at it

On 4/18/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive tear 
down of the engine.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Well, this is helpful:

what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.


On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic knows 
what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?

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Exterior color: Silver
Fair condition 


Seller's description…

***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic says, 
the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, come get 
it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask me millions 
of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and pads were just 
changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Aren't the gassers a PITA to keep tuned up?  But yeah, it does look 
pretty nice, and those issues don't sound too bad.  Maybe I'll go look 
at it tomorrow afternoon.  10 bennies sounds about right


--FT

On 4/18/20 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a timing chain 
that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the stuff is all 
rinky-dink minor things.

Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as clean as 
it looks.

-D


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wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667

1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
$2,500
Vehicles 
Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 160,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
Good condition 


Seller's description…

THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE 
OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there has been many 
repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the issues remaining. 
backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not disclose all the things that 
need work. Here are The issues I've found: the Timing belt needs to be 
tightened, coolant fluid container seems to have a craxk but I'm not sure. 
needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong, lights in the back 
don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in the dash or in front or 
back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the speakers might be blown but 
it also might just need a new radio. Seems to have trouble going over 40 but 
its more of a city car anyway. Again i don't know much about it so I am selling 
this for someone to have fun working on or for parts. Interested in trades for 
small car or crossover in working condition.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dude. Go see this guy with $1000 cash and a trailer. If it needs a timing chain 
that’s not a big deal if it’s still running. The rest of the stuff is all 
rinky-dink minor things.

Really. This would be a really nice driver or $3k-$4k flip if it’s as clean as 
it looks.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667
> 
> 1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
> $2,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 160,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> Good condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE 
> OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there has been many 
> repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the issues remaining. 
> backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not disclose all the things 
> that need work. Here are The issues I've found: the Timing belt needs to be 
> tightened, coolant fluid container seems to have a craxk but I'm not sure. 
> needs new brakes soon, odometer is reading 10 miles wrong, lights in the back 
> don't work or in the dash, turn signals don't work in the dash or in front or 
> back of car ( this might be just a fuse issue) the speakers might be blown 
> but it also might just need a new radio. Seems to have trouble going over 40 
> but its more of a city car anyway. Again i don't know much about it so I am 
> selling this for someone to have fun working on or for parts. Interested in 
> trades for small car or crossover in working condition.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. You should run away from this as if your hair was on fire. Known issue, 
no cheap fix short of an engine rebuild. Their ask is stupid considering the 
issue at hand.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The sprockets wear to the point the cams are no longer in time. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The guy is pretty cranky, I guess if his car is f'd I would be too.  Maybe 
>> I'll take a road trip up to Murder Beach tomorrow and take a look at it, 
>> take the fancy computer and do a scan on it, see exactly what it is 
>> throwing.  I'm not sure why cam issues would cause limp mode unless the 
>> nannies are trying to keep it from imploding
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
>> OK thanks
>> Is it not running well, shaking, any particular issues?
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> Check engine came on. Car went into a limp mode and mechanic said balance 
>> shaft is bad and just sell the car
>> ah. Did he put a scanner on it to see what the code indicated?
>> limp mode can be caused by a lot of issues, not all particularly severe, a 
>> scan will indicate what the particular fault is
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> Read sellers description completely
>> Gotcha. You around tomorrow?
>> 
>> 
>> Michael
>> Yes. PM me when you would like to look at it
>>> On 4/18/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive 
>>> tear down of the engine.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Well, this is helpful:
 
 what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?
 
 
 Michael
 The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
 
> On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
> 
> I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic 
> knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600
> 
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 198,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver
> Fair condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> ***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic 
> says, the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want 
> it, come get it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please 
> don't ask me millions of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear 
> rotors and pads were just changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, 
> Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, 
> Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, Deal, Repair, Parts
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The sprockets wear to the point the cams are no longer in time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The guy is pretty cranky, I guess if his car is f'd I would be too.  Maybe 
> I'll take a road trip up to Murder Beach tomorrow and take a look at it, take 
> the fancy computer and do a scan on it, see exactly what it is throwing.  I'm 
> not sure why cam issues would cause limp mode unless the nannies are trying 
> to keep it from imploding
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?
> 
> 
> Michael
> The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
> OK thanks
> Is it not running well, shaking, any particular issues?
> 
> 
> Michael
> Check engine came on. Car went into a limp mode and mechanic said balance 
> shaft is bad and just sell the car
> ah. Did he put a scanner on it to see what the code indicated?
> limp mode can be caused by a lot of issues, not all particularly severe, a 
> scan will indicate what the particular fault is
> 
> 
> Michael
> Read sellers description completely
> Gotcha. You around tomorrow?
> 
> 
> Michael
> Yes. PM me when you would like to look at it
>> On 4/18/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive 
>> tear down of the engine.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, this is helpful:
>>> 
>>> what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
>>> 
 On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
 
 I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic 
 knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600
 
 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
 $2,000
 Vehicles 
 Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 
 
 
 
  About This Vehicle…
 
 Driven 198,000 miles
 Automatic transmission
 Exterior color: Silver
 Fair condition 
 
 
  Seller's description…
 
 ***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic 
 says, the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, 
 come get it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask 
 me millions of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and 
 pads were just changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, 
 Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, 
 Free, Trade, GMC, Deal, Repair, Parts
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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This thread suggests the 06 E350 was the worst ever with the cam issues 
related it seems to VVT.  If that is the issue then this is a scrap 
price, MAYBE $500 as fixing it is an engine-out deal.  I suppose I could 
drop a 500 in...


--FT

On 4/18/20 10:13 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
The guy is pretty cranky, I guess if his car is f'd I would be too.  
Maybe I'll take a road trip up to Murder Beach tomorrow and take a 
look at it, take the fancy computer and do a scan on it, see exactly 
what it is throwing.  I'm not sure why cam issues would cause limp 
mode unless the nannies are trying to keep it from imploding


--FT


what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
OK thanks
Is it not running well, shaking, any particular issues?


Michael
Check engine came on. Car went into a limp mode and mechanic said 
balance shaft is bad and just sell the car

ah. Did he put a scanner on it to see what the code indicated?
limp mode can be caused by a lot of issues, not all particularly 
severe, a scan will indicate what the particular fault is



Michael
Read sellers description completely
Gotcha. You around tomorrow?


Michael
Yes. PM me when you would like to look at it
On 4/18/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive tear 
down of the engine.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Well, this is helpful:

what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.


On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic knows 
what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600

2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
$2,000
Vehicles
Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, 
SC


  About This Vehicle…

Driven 198,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver
Fair condition


  Seller's description…

***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic says, 
the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, come get 
it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask me millions 
of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and pads were just 
changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, 
Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, 
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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The guy is pretty cranky, I guess if his car is f'd I would be too.  
Maybe I'll take a road trip up to Murder Beach tomorrow and take a look 
at it, take the fancy computer and do a scan on it, see exactly what it 
is throwing.  I'm not sure why cam issues would cause limp mode unless 
the nannies are trying to keep it from imploding


--FT


what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
OK thanks
Is it not running well, shaking, any particular issues?


Michael
Check engine came on. Car went into a limp mode and mechanic said 
balance shaft is bad and just sell the car

ah. Did he put a scanner on it to see what the code indicated?
limp mode can be caused by a lot of issues, not all particularly severe, 
a scan will indicate what the particular fault is



Michael
Read sellers description completely
Gotcha. You around tomorrow?


Michael
Yes. PM me when you would like to look at it
On 4/18/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive tear 
down of the engine.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Well, this is helpful:

what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.


On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:

I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic knows 
what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600

2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 



  About This Vehicle…

Driven 198,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver
Fair condition 


  Seller's description…

***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic says, 
the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, come get 
it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask me millions 
of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and pads were just 
changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, 
Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Certain check engine codes relating to camshaft timing. Requires massive tear 
down of the engine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, this is helpful:
> 
> what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?
> 
> 
> Michael
> The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.
> 
>> On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>> 
>> I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic 
>> knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600
>> 
>> 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
>> $2,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 198,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Silver
>> Fair condition 
>> 
>> 
>>  Seller's description…
>> 
>> ***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic 
>> says, the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, 
>> come get it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask 
>> me millions of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and pads 
>> were just changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, 
>> Chrysler, Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, Free, 
>> Trade, GMC, Deal, Repair, Parts
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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe worth a grand, I don’t know. 

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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic 
> knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600
> 
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 198,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver
> Fair condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> ***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic says, 
> the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want it, come get 
> it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please don't ask me millions 
> of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear rotors and pads were just 
> changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, 
> Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, 
> Deal, Repair, Parts
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FW: CLASSIC, COLICTIBLE, 1966 MERCEDES BENZ 200D, 66K MILES, CLEAN TITLE, C

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

SEND TITTLE

--FT

On 4/17/20 4:17 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

FENTIL: Fentanyl or Fintail? Both?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 10:40:38 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


IT IS A COLLECTIVE 200D

Actually, it's a COLICTIBLE 200D, meaning it readily gets colic.
And you know what an infant who has colic is like ...



Plus with the floor mats you could pretend you are the Tiger King!
Cool cat!

That would be hard to top.


Craig

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[MBZ] Nice 280E with issues and crack price PLEASE ONLY SEND RESPECTABLE OFFERS

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/247199072995667

1977 Mercedes-Benz s80e
$2,500
Vehicles 
Listed 12 hours ago in Charleston, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 160,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
Good condition 


 Seller's description…

THIS IS A PROJECT CAR. THIS IS A CLASSIC CAR. PLEASE ONLY SEND 
RESPECTABLE OFFERS. the interior and exterior are so gorgeous and there 
has been many repairs but i don't have the time or knowledge to fix the 
issues remaining. backstory: I traded cars with someone who did not 
disclose all the things that need work. Here are The issues I've found: 
the Timing belt needs to be tightened, coolant fluid container seems to 
have a craxk but I'm not sure. needs new brakes soon, odometer is 
reading 10 miles wrong, lights in the back don't work or in the dash, 
turn signals don't work in the dash or in front or back of car ( this 
might be just a fuse issue) the speakers might be blown but it also 
might just need a new radio. Seems to have trouble going over 40 but its 
more of a city car anyway. Again i don't know much about it so I am 
selling this for someone to have fun working on or for parts. Interested 
in trades for small car or crossover in working condition.


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Re: [MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well, this is helpful:

what is the main symptom that indicates the balance shaft is bad?


Michael
The car is for sale if you want to do your own diagnosis. I have no clue.

On 4/18/20 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote:


I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his 
mechanic knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600

2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 




  About This Vehicle…

Driven 198,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver
Fair condition 


  Seller's description…

***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the 
mechanic says, the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If 
you want it, come get it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so 
please don't ask me millions of questions. The title is clean and 
clear. Rear rotors and pads were just changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, 
Sedan, Kia, Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, 
Honda, Teenager, Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, Deal, Repair, Parts

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[MBZ] I just did 2 big rocks and need cash for more

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1981 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D
$1,200
Vehicles 
Listed 15 hours ago in Rincon, GA 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Grey
Fuel type: Diesel
Fair condition 


 Seller's description…

1981 diesel Mercedes 300sd needs work runs and drives good 1200 obo

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[MBZ] MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a different perspective on "reasonable"  I wonder if his mechanic 
knows what he is talking about.  Car shake at start?


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1079281522451600

2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class MAKE REASONABLE OFFER NEED GONE
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listed 23 hours ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 198,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver
Fair condition 


 Seller's description…

***MECHANIC SPECIAL*** This car runs and drives. From what the mechanic 
says, the balancing shaft is going bad and needs replaced. If you want 
it, come get it. It should be towed. I am not the mechanic so please 
don't ask me millions of questions. The title is clean and clear. Rear 
rotors and pads were just changed. Keywords: BMW, Hyundai, Sedan, Kia, 
Chevrolet, Dodge, Chrysler, Toyota, Audi, Volkswagen, Honda, Teenager, 
Family, Work, Free, Trade, GMC, Deal, Repair, Parts


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Re: [MBZ] A car for Dave

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Rode hard and put up wet

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> On Apr 17, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2002 E55 AMG Mercedes V-8 Auto parts car/project ManCave car furniture
> 
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[MBZ] Coolest car for $1200

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