Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I should have included this in original reply:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qkblKElN4w


-Original Message-
From: Scott Ritchey 
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 1:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or killed 
over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may provide 
deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops of heads 
under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link my barn and 
house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps right now).   The 
best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get out of control very 
fast.

I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun because 
of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to use it 
promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I started with a 
20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been able to use it or an 
AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition, home-defense firearms must be 
ready to use but you need to decide that that means in your home.  I live alone 
now so that means full magazine plus one in the chamber but with the hammer 
down, for pistols.  I like a revolver for bedside because of simplicity in 
difficult conditions (like groggy and dark).

There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the Basics of 
Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.  If an intruder 
gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself, Barricade, and 
Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only if he already knows 
where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let them clear the house; 
that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to tell the cops how to get in 
(maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to develop the situation 
awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you want is to be mistaken for 
an intruder.

Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what works 
with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little Speedvaults very 
handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a curious kid could 
crack the combo, given time.

Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your Sheriff.  
For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own conclusions.  
Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were trespassers at a known 
time and location could be useful.

Good luck.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:24 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

I’m out of town. Wife called talking about how she stopped for gas in Tulsa and 
the whole parking lot was full of the “undesirable” types. Soon a car comes 
screeching up and some dude is waving a gun around. First of all, why the hell 
would you stop somewhere like that for gas. 

She then says they got back home about an hour ago and the kid was taking out 
the trash. He runs in and tells the wife to grab her gun and get outside. He 
heard voices. Sure enough she says she heard voices sounded like it was coming 
from the direction of the barn. She is telling this story like it was no big 
deal. I say you called the cops, correct. Nope, thought maybe it was coming 
from the neighbors hours and by the time the cops got here they would be gone 
anyway. We are on 20 acres so if you hear voices people are somewhere they 
shouldn’t be. Wtf? So we have shit loads of  cars around, a $30k tractor  in 
the barn and didn’t think maybe you should call the cops. Not the first time we 
have had thugs around but it’s been a while. I guess now they will know it’s OK 
because we will just run in the house and not do anything about it. I need to 
install some motion lights and cameras over by the shop and barn. 

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission in limp mode - 1999 E320 4Matic - $1,300

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Driving 1 million miles takes 4500 years when in limp mode.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:13 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> It's got the million mile engine, but isn't it about worn out?
>
> odometer: 1154000
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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The North American record for a gator is 14' long/1,000 lbs.
https://www.outdoorrevival.com/news/alligator.html

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:24 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> "What ever happened to  ? "
> "I have no idea, last I heard, he was going water skiing over at LaRange
> Bayou with some friends."
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 3:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Around here there are some ponds reportedly home to some 12ft gators.  I
> > am reliably told that in the past some things were quietly dealt with by
> > natural means.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 3/2/21 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > And always remember the three “S” - Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.
> > >
> > > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today’s crack head

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Extra 0

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> On Mar 2, 2021, at 10:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] Today’s crack head

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2982553132029273/


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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-03-02 20:20, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

2012 Chevy Volt

148,575 miles
Non-smoker owned, comes with a 240v charger.


I wonder how good the level 2 charger is.
They come with level 1 (120v) chargers.

I don't recall how the first gen perform, everybody seems to like the 
2nd gen, even know a couple of guys who switched from 2G Cruzes to 2G 
Volts, but on paper it's hard to justify the 2G, because the Volt is 
much heavier, noticeably slower, and you'd never make up the (new) price 
difference in 200kmi of mostly battery driving.


Apparently they're still cheap around here, just wait until regular gas 
hits $3+ and stays there and maybe they'll be worth something.


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=575918979

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=569837743

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=575845072

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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

2012 Chevy Volt 

148,575 miles
Non-smoker owned, comes with a 240v charger. The car rides and drives great, 
you’ll be hard pressed to find a car that’s cheaper to operate than this one.
No mechanical issues
Some paint chips in bumper and hood
$6,000 no trades

> On Mar 2, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got home 20 minutes ago, but too facebook proof to look at it, what is 
> it?
> 
> On 2021-03-02 19:37, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> He’s probably too busy to look at this since it’s tax season, but...
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/3811685978910690/?sale_post_id=3811685978910690
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Re: [MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Just got home 20 minutes ago, but too facebook proof to look at it, what 
is it?


On 2021-03-02 19:37, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

He’s probably too busy to look at this since it’s tax season, but...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/3811685978910690/?sale_post_id=3811685978910690

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission in limp mode - 1999 E320 4Matic - $1,300

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It's got the million mile engine, but isn't it about worn out?

odometer: 1154000

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good MB garage in Tucson AZ area?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ok thanks Bob.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 2, 2021 7:13:20 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :

> I can ask my Indy.
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> AZBob
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>> On Mar 2, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Asking for a friend.  They bought an old 126 SEL gasser, I think it's a
>> 560SEL, and have a slow ATF leak that needs to be diagnosed / repaired.
>> Older gent who cannot do his own work.  Probably has a leaking hose to/from
>> the ATF cooler in the radiator.
>> -
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[MBZ] One for Michigan Mitch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

He’s probably too busy to look at this since it’s tax season, but...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/3811685978910690/?sale_post_id=3811685978910690

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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"What ever happened to  ? "
"I have no idea, last I heard, he was going water skiing over at LaRange
Bayou with some friends."

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 3:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Around here there are some ponds reportedly home to some 12ft gators.  I
> am reliably told that in the past some things were quietly dealt with by
> natural means.
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/2/21 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > And always remember the three “S” - Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.
> >
> > -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good MB garage in Tucson AZ area?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I can ask my Indy. 

AZBob

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> On Mar 2, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Asking for a friend.  They bought an old 126 SEL gasser, I think it's a
> 560SEL, and have a slow ATF leak that needs to be diagnosed / repaired.
> Older gent who cannot do his own work.  Probably has a leaking hose to/from
> the ATF cooler in the radiator.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] BOUGHT NEW SUV, GOT TO MAKE ROOM - 2003 ML350, 165k miles - $4, 995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

-$3k and it might be sorta reasonable

--FT

On 3/2/21 6:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Seems to have an extra two or three grand in the price?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2003-mercedes-ml-350/7285287794.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission in limp mode - 1999 E320 4Matic - $1,300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Take $900 and spend $250 on the trans fix, deal with the windows easy 
enough then flip it for $2k


--FT

On 3/2/21 6:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Power windows some work properly - some don't but hey it's fixable

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/renfro-valley-1999-mercedes-e320-4matic/7285249684.html

Allan

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[MBZ] BOUGHT NEW SUV, GOT TO MAKE ROOM - 2003 ML350, 165k miles - $4, 995

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Seems to have an extra two or three grand in the price?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2003-mercedes-ml-350/7285287794.html

Allan

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[MBZ] Transmission in limp mode - 1999 E320 4Matic - $1,300

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Power windows some work properly - some don't but hey it's fixable

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/renfro-valley-1999-mercedes-e320-4matic/7285249684.html

Allan

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[MBZ] Anyone know of a good MB garage in Tucson AZ area?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Asking for a friend.  They bought an old 126 SEL gasser, I think it's a
560SEL, and have a slow ATF leak that needs to be diagnosed / repaired.
Older gent who cannot do his own work.  Probably has a leaking hose to/from
the ATF cooler in the radiator.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] OT who was looking for a small, cheap utility truck?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1997-chevy-s10/7285023080.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Tasty color, very nice condition -- 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 E 3.0 Sedan 4D, $2, 250

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have no need of one but it looks like it could be a good deal

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On 3/2/21 5:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

If that's an original color I'd say go for it.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 5:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


This could actually be quite reasonable


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/133451178592869/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search



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Re: [MBZ] Tasty color, very nice condition -- 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 E 3.0 Sedan 4D, $2, 250

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If that's an original color I'd say go for it.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 5:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> This could actually be quite reasonable
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Around here there are some ponds reportedly home to some 12ft gators.  I 
am reliably told that in the past some things were quietly dealt with by 
natural means.


--FT

On 3/2/21 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And always remember the three “S” - Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.

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[MBZ] OT just need minor things like back head gasket needs to change 1998 Cadillac De Ville, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nothing significant!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1339403763084001/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search

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[MBZ] OT This one is better and cheaper 2008 Aston Martin DB9, $25, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3869224939767196/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search

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[MBZ] OT what could go wrong 2006 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe 2D, $37, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Clean title. Will not find a clean title DB9 this cheap any where in the 
country! Especially with 30k miles Priced to sell. No low ball offers. 
No trades. No joy rides. Don’t waste my time. Thanks.


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[MBZ] The meth trail runs through Jawja -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, $8, 950

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well the cams have not croaked yet at 206kmi

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3854230777974519/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search

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[MBZ] OT I drove this car 15 miles before it stalled out -- 1990 Bentley Flying Spur V8 Sedan 4D, $5, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It actually looks pretty nice but would probably cost $15k to fix, 
unless you could just drop a 350 in and be done with it. Or maybe it did 
use some GM parts and would not be hard to fix, who knows


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[MBZ] Tasty color, very nice condition -- 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 E 3.0 Sedan 4D, $2, 250

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could actually be quite reasonable

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/133451178592869/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search

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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And always remember the three “S” - Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2021, at 3:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> What everyone responded above in the way of prepared and alert family
> members. It takes time and effort to get everyone on board with the idea of
> actually defending themselves and other members.
> 
> I would add to the above suggestions, the installation and use of well
> placed cameras [multiple] with day / night vision and at your option,
> motion sensor activation that are hard wired into a recording device [your
> choice what works best].
> 
> Should you need to use lethal force to prevent your death, nothing makes
> your case like having it on instant replay, with a talented and
> knowledgeable 2A skilled attorney.
> As part of becoming prepared, school yourself and all concerned in the
> family on how to respond post use of force.
> "Anything you say can, and will, be used against you." so school yourself
> and family on exactly how to manage things while the criminal who presented
> a deadly threat converts to room temperature.
> 
> Suggest you have a look at USCCA. They do a very credible job of classes on
> just that issue, as well as having developed a long list of 2A qualified
> attorneys you can engage to represent you.  The given, in today's world is,
> you will most likely be arrested and charged, with "something" for
> defending yourself. So, know in advance the laws that apply to your
> location.
> 
> Only my suggestions. Avoid any confrontation if you can. Peace and KumbaYa..
> 
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:34 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> #4 birdshot in lead is 135 pellets per ounce. It's probably not deadly
>> but a load of it would have a STRONG deterrent effect. Within 5-10 feet of
>> the muzzle those pellets are all clumped together and will put serious hurt
>> on whatever you hit. After about 30 feet the pellets aren't going to
>> seriously penetrate a wall making it much safer for bystanders.
>> 
>> The average homeowner type defensive gunfight is going to be 1-2 shots at
>> most and is going to be highly panicked and, well lets say it'll be
>> difficult. A shotgun will give you 2 things, a much better chance of
>> hitting the assailant and a much smaller chance of hitting your neighbors
>> through the wall of your house. So on the whole its much safer for other
>> good people and much less safe for the bad guy...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 1:07:44 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or
>> killed over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may
>> provide deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops
>> of heads under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link
>> my barn and house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps
>> right now).  The best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get
>> out of control very fast.
>> 
>> I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun
>> because of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to
>> use it promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I
>> started with a 20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been
>> able to use it or an AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition,
>> home-defense firearms must be ready to use but you need to decide that that
>> means in your home.  I live alone now so that means full magazine plus one
>> in the chamber but with the hammer down, for pistols.  I like a revolver
>> for bedside because of simplicity in difficult conditions (like groggy and
>> dark).
>> 
>> There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the
>> Basics of Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.  If
>> an intruder gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself,
>> Barricade, and Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only
>> if he already knows where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let
>> them clear the house; that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to tell
>> the cops how to get in (maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to
>> develop the situation awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you
>> want is to be mistaken for an intruder.
>> 
>> Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what
>> works with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little
>> Speedvaults very handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a
>> curious kid could crack the combo, given time.
>> 
>> Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your
>> Sheriff.  For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own
>> conclusions.  Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were
>> trespassers at a known time and location could be useful.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah a dog is part of the avoiding confrontation part. Let them move along
to some house with a less ferocious, smaller pet. By the time they are in
your house, your options are very limited.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021, 12:18 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> What everyone responded above in the way of prepared and alert family
> members. It takes time and effort to get everyone on board with the idea of
> actually defending themselves and other members.
>
> I would add to the above suggestions, the installation and use of well
> placed cameras [multiple] with day / night vision and at your option,
> motion sensor activation that are hard wired into a recording device [your
> choice what works best].
>
> Should you need to use lethal force to prevent your death, nothing makes
> your case like having it on instant replay, with a talented and
> knowledgeable 2A skilled attorney.
> As part of becoming prepared, school yourself and all concerned in the
> family on how to respond post use of force.
> "Anything you say can, and will, be used against you." so school yourself
> and family on exactly how to manage things while the criminal who presented
> a deadly threat converts to room temperature.
>
> Suggest you have a look at USCCA. They do a very credible job of classes on
> just that issue, as well as having developed a long list of 2A qualified
> attorneys you can engage to represent you.  The given, in today's world is,
> you will most likely be arrested and charged, with "something" for
> defending yourself. So, know in advance the laws that apply to your
> location.
>
> Only my suggestions. Avoid any confrontation if you can. Peace and
> KumbaYa..
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:34 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  #4 birdshot in lead is 135 pellets per ounce. It's probably not deadly
> > but a load of it would have a STRONG deterrent effect. Within 5-10 feet
> of
> > the muzzle those pellets are all clumped together and will put serious
> hurt
> > on whatever you hit. After about 30 feet the pellets aren't going to
> > seriously penetrate a wall making it much safer for bystanders.
> >
> > The average homeowner type defensive gunfight is going to be 1-2 shots at
> > most and is going to be highly panicked and, well lets say it'll be
> > difficult. A shotgun will give you 2 things, a much better chance of
> > hitting the assailant and a much smaller chance of hitting your neighbors
> > through the wall of your house. So on the whole its much safer for other
> > good people and much less safe for the bad guy...
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 1:07:44 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via
> Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or
> > killed over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may
> > provide deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops
> > of heads under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link
> > my barn and house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps
> > right now).  The best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get
> > out of control very fast.
> >
> > I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun
> > because of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to
> > use it promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I
> > started with a 20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been
> > able to use it or an AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition,
> > home-defense firearms must be ready to use but you need to decide that
> that
> > means in your home.  I live alone now so that means full magazine plus
> one
> > in the chamber but with the hammer down, for pistols.  I like a revolver
> > for bedside because of simplicity in difficult conditions (like groggy
> and
> > dark).
> >
> > There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the
> > Basics of Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.
> If
> > an intruder gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself,
> > Barricade, and Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only
> > if he already knows where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let
> > them clear the house; that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to
> tell
> > the cops how to get in (maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator
> to
> > develop the situation awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you
> > want is to be mistaken for an intruder.
> >
> > Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what
> > works with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little
> > Speedvaults very handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a
> > curious kid could crack the combo, given time.
> >
> > Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your
> > Sheriff.  For one thing, you want to 

Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What everyone responded above in the way of prepared and alert family
members. It takes time and effort to get everyone on board with the idea of
actually defending themselves and other members.

I would add to the above suggestions, the installation and use of well
placed cameras [multiple] with day / night vision and at your option,
motion sensor activation that are hard wired into a recording device [your
choice what works best].

Should you need to use lethal force to prevent your death, nothing makes
your case like having it on instant replay, with a talented and
knowledgeable 2A skilled attorney.
As part of becoming prepared, school yourself and all concerned in the
family on how to respond post use of force.
"Anything you say can, and will, be used against you." so school yourself
and family on exactly how to manage things while the criminal who presented
a deadly threat converts to room temperature.

Suggest you have a look at USCCA. They do a very credible job of classes on
just that issue, as well as having developed a long list of 2A qualified
attorneys you can engage to represent you.  The given, in today's world is,
you will most likely be arrested and charged, with "something" for
defending yourself. So, know in advance the laws that apply to your
location.

Only my suggestions. Avoid any confrontation if you can. Peace and KumbaYa..

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:34 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  #4 birdshot in lead is 135 pellets per ounce. It's probably not deadly
> but a load of it would have a STRONG deterrent effect. Within 5-10 feet of
> the muzzle those pellets are all clumped together and will put serious hurt
> on whatever you hit. After about 30 feet the pellets aren't going to
> seriously penetrate a wall making it much safer for bystanders.
>
> The average homeowner type defensive gunfight is going to be 1-2 shots at
> most and is going to be highly panicked and, well lets say it'll be
> difficult. A shotgun will give you 2 things, a much better chance of
> hitting the assailant and a much smaller chance of hitting your neighbors
> through the wall of your house. So on the whole its much safer for other
> good people and much less safe for the bad guy...
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 1:07:44 AM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or
> killed over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may
> provide deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops
> of heads under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link
> my barn and house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps
> right now).  The best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get
> out of control very fast.
>
> I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun
> because of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to
> use it promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I
> started with a 20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been
> able to use it or an AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition,
> home-defense firearms must be ready to use but you need to decide that that
> means in your home.  I live alone now so that means full magazine plus one
> in the chamber but with the hammer down, for pistols.  I like a revolver
> for bedside because of simplicity in difficult conditions (like groggy and
> dark).
>
> There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the
> Basics of Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.  If
> an intruder gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself,
> Barricade, and Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only
> if he already knows where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let
> them clear the house; that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to tell
> the cops how to get in (maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to
> develop the situation awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you
> want is to be mistaken for an intruder.
>
> Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what
> works with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little
> Speedvaults very handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a
> curious kid could crack the combo, given time.
>
> Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your
> Sheriff.  For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own
> conclusions.  Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were
> trespassers at a known time and location could be useful.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home
>
> I’m out 

Re: [MBZ] ML, heal thyself

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I learned about False Hope after my indy tech "cleared" the CEL in my 2014
GLK 250.  It was wonderful for a few days - I thought the problem had been
solved - but then the CEL again illuminated and my hopes were dashed.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:45 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As far as I know the CEL is not an instantaneous status indicator. It
> requires a certain persistence in a fault detection before it comes
> on. Likewise, once the fault itself is resolved, the CEL doesn't go dark
> (unless manually cleared) but stays on for some time (or some number of
> engine starts).
>
> Allan
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > The ML500 was showing a CEL due to something in the fuel system, after
> the low fuel light came on. It was intermittent. I’m guessing it was the
> gas cap but maybe it was something else I don’t know.
> >
> > Anyway, the low fuel light went off but the CEL stayed on. I noticed a
> coupla days ago the CEL resolves itself too. I was going to put the scanner
> on it to clear the code but never did, so that saved me the trouble. The
> nannies got themselves happy again.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
>
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Re: [MBZ] Euro model - 1978 280S, 180k km - $5,200

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks like a tight fit but doable.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:49 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Weird. They overlap the cassette tape opening. I would have guessed the
> originals had cracked or something, and these were hardware-store
> replacements.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel  writes:
>
> > Yep.  That was the base option Becker AM FM cassette of the time.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not a huge fan of blue but this is nice looking. Doesn't seem
> like
> > those are the original knobs on the radio?
> >
> >
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1978-mercedes-280s/7284725089.html
> >
> > Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Euro model - 1978 280S, 180k km - $5,200

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Weird. They overlap the cassette tape opening. I would have guessed the
originals had cracked or something, and these were hardware-store
replacements.

Andrew Strasfogel  writes:

> Yep.  That was the base option Becker AM FM cassette of the time.
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not a huge fan of blue but this is nice looking. Doesn't seem like
> those are the original knobs on the radio?
>
> 
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1978-mercedes-280s/7284725089.html
>
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] ML, heal thyself

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

As far as I know the CEL is not an instantaneous status indicator. It
requires a certain persistence in a fault detection before it comes
on. Likewise, once the fault itself is resolved, the CEL doesn't go dark
(unless manually cleared) but stays on for some time (or some number of
engine starts).

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> The ML500 was showing a CEL due to something in the fuel system, after the 
> low fuel light came on. It was intermittent. I’m guessing it was the gas cap 
> but maybe it was something else I don’t know. 
>
> Anyway, the low fuel light went off but the CEL stayed on. I noticed a coupla 
> days ago the CEL resolves itself too. I was going to put the scanner on it to 
> clear the code but never did, so that saved me the trouble. The nannies got 
> themselves happy again. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Wife body kits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Remove springs?

On 02/03/2021 8:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Take the air out of the tires...
-Curt

 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 7:14:32 AM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Cheapest easiest way to lower my ‘74 240d

And do they make wife body kits for these cars

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] Wife body kits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Don't want "wide" body kit for wife.


On 02/03/2021 6:13 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Cheapest easiest way to lower my ‘74 240d
And do they make wife body kits for these cars

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2001 Acura NSX -T

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Uber driver?

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:43 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 113K miles?!? I’ve never seen an NSX that has been driven that much.  Cray
> cray.
>
> AZBob
>
>
> >
> > 2001 Acura NSX -T
> >
> >
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/tempe-2001-acura-nsx/7284974021.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Opium Dreams -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz - $3,500 (GERMANTON)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Like trolling for a shark with a hunk of Beyond Meat.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/germanton-1999-mercedes-benz/7284884907.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Actually the only time it ran.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Ran when parked, really?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Euro model - 1978 280S, 180k km - $5,200

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yep.  That was the base option Becker AM FM cassette of the time.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm not a huge fan of blue but this is nice looking. Doesn't seem like
> those are the original knobs on the radio?
>
>
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1978-mercedes-280s/7284725089.html
>
> Allan
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[MBZ] 2000 MERCEDES SLK KOMPRESSOR HARDTOP CONVERTIBLE High Bid 1, 730.00 USD

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder what kind of stupid money this thing will go for. Buyer's 
Premium is 13%


https://southcarolina.hibid.com/lot/27494-266264-464351/2000-mercedes-slk-kompressor-hard/?utm_source=Iterable_medium=email_campaign=newsletter_content=tuesday_3%2F2%2F21

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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320 CDI, 114k miles - $9,600

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes of course some sort of blue book price can serve as a starting point
for negotiation.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 8:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah seemed high but I didn't look it up.
>
> Not sure how most people approach an ad like that. Do you try to make
> what will be seen as a "lo ball" offer or just wait for the seller to
> realize he's asking too much and repost at a more reasonable price?
>
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Looks like it could be nice. Nada has it as a 6500 dollar car, though.
> Not
> > sure where the $9600 asking is coming from.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 8:26 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Needs more pics but might be nice.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2006-mercedes-benz-e320-cdi/7284809424.html
> >>
> >> Allan
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[MBZ] I found some pills in the street and took them -- Mercedes Benz ml350 4by4 - $6, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-mercedes-benz-ml350-4by4/7284656790.html

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[MBZ] Has 20" alloy wheels and tires -- 2001 Mercedes E320 - $3, 500 (Browns Summit)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$2000 in wheels and tires on a $1500 car

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/browns-summit-2001-mercedes-e320/7284782999.html

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[MBZ] Fwd: 2001 Acura NSX -T

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

113K miles?!? I’ve never seen an NSX that has been driven that much.  Cray 
cray. 

AZBob 


> 
> 2001 Acura NSX -T
> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/tempe-2001-acura-nsx/7284974021.html
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[MBZ] Opium Dreams -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz - $3,500 (GERMANTON)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/germanton-1999-mercedes-benz/7284884907.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'd give $500 for that

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On 3/2/21 9:26 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Ran when parked, really?

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Re: [MBZ] Wife body kits

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Take the air out of the tires...
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 7:14:32 AM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Cheapest easiest way to lower my ‘74 240d 
And do they make wife body kits for these cars

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Maybe "running" means "It moved when towed up onto the rollback."
-Curt

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 9:26:57 AM EST, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
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 Ran when parked, really?

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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 #4 birdshot in lead is 135 pellets per ounce. It's probably not deadly but a 
load of it would have a STRONG deterrent effect. Within 5-10 feet of the muzzle 
those pellets are all clumped together and will put serious hurt on whatever 
you hit. After about 30 feet the pellets aren't going to seriously penetrate a 
wall making it much safer for bystanders.

The average homeowner type defensive gunfight is going to be 1-2 shots at most 
and is going to be highly panicked and, well lets say it'll be difficult. A 
shotgun will give you 2 things, a much better chance of hitting the assailant 
and a much smaller chance of hitting your neighbors through the wall of your 
house. So on the whole its much safer for other good people and much less safe 
for the bad guy...
-Curt

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 Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or 
killed over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may provide 
deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops of heads 
under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link my barn and 
house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps right now).  The 
best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get out of control very 
fast.

I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun because 
of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to use it 
promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I started with a 
20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been able to use it or an 
AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition, home-defense firearms must be 
ready to use but you need to decide that that means in your home.  I live alone 
now so that means full magazine plus one in the chamber but with the hammer 
down, for pistols.  I like a revolver for bedside because of simplicity in 
difficult conditions (like groggy and dark).

There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the Basics of 
Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.  If an intruder 
gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself, Barricade, and 
Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only if he already knows 
where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let them clear the house; 
that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to tell the cops how to get in 
(maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to develop the situation 
awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you want is to be mistaken for 
an intruder.

Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what works 
with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little Speedvaults very 
handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a curious kid could 
crack the combo, given time.

Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your Sheriff.  
For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own conclusions.  
Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were trespassers at a known 
time and location could be useful.

Good luck.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

I’m out of town. Wife called talking about how she stopped for gas in Tulsa and 
the whole parking lot was full of the “undesirable” types. Soon a car comes 
screeching up and some dude is waving a gun around. First of all, why the hell 
would you stop somewhere like that for gas. 

She then says they got back home about an hour ago and the kid was taking out 
the trash. He runs in and tells the wife to grab her gun and get outside. He 
heard voices. Sure enough she says she heard voices sounded like it was coming 
from the direction of the barn. She is telling this story like it was no big 
deal. I say you called the cops, correct. Nope, thought maybe it was coming 
from the neighbors hours and by the time the cops got here they would be gone 
anyway. We are on 20 acres so if you hear voices people are somewhere they 
shouldn’t be. Wtf? So we have shit loads of  cars around, a $30k tractor  in 
the barn and didn’t think maybe you should call the cops. Not the first time we 
have had thugs around but it’s been a while. I guess now they will know it’s OK 
because we will just run in the house and not do anything about it. I need to 
install some motion lights and cameras over by the shop and barn. 

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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Ran when parked, really?

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Re: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’m not certain if any of this really happened because she hasn’t posted 
anything on the FB yet. 

AZBob

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> On Mar 1, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nothing except your kids is worth you or SWMBO getting seriously hurt or 
> killed over.  I endorse motion lights and security cameras. They may provide 
> deterrence but don't mount cameras too high; it's hard to ID tops of heads 
> under hoodies.  I use Ubiquiti Nanostation M5 RF bridges to link my barn and 
> house networks vs burying Cat5  (I'm getting about 500 Mbps right now).   The 
> best gunfight is the one that never happens; things get out of control very 
> fast.
> 
> I think an AR (especially the pistol version) is better than a shotgun 
> because of magazine capacity (30 vs 5-7) but the user MUST be willing to use 
> it promptly and lethally or it will be used against your family.  I started 
> with a 20 Ga pump but I don't think my late wife would have been able to use 
> it or an AR, she wasn't very mechanical.  By definition, home-defense 
> firearms must be ready to use but you need to decide that that means in your 
> home.  I live alone now so that means full magazine plus one in the chamber 
> but with the hammer down, for pistols.  I like a revolver for bedside because 
> of simplicity in difficult conditions (like groggy and dark).
> 
> There are some excellent reference books but I like "NRA Guide to the Basics 
> of Personal Protection in the Home", it's an oldie but a goodie.  If an 
> intruder gets inside your home the basic process is ABC: Arm yourself, 
> Barricade, and Communicate (certainly 911 and maybe the intruder but only if 
> he already knows where you are).  If your local cops are any good, let them 
> clear the house; that is not a safe one-person job.  You need to tell the 
> cops how to get in (maybe hand them a key) and use the 911 operator to 
> develop the situation awareness for responding LEOs.  The last thing you want 
> is to be mistaken for an intruder.
> 
> Children (or others) in the home requires serious safety planning; what works 
> with one kid may not work with another.  I find the little Speedvaults very 
> handy for securing handguns in strategic locations but a curious kid could 
> crack the combo, given time.
> 
> Even though this event is over it is still worth discussing with your 
> Sheriff.  For one thing, you want to meet the Sheriff to draw your own 
> conclusions.  Also, if they are good, the intelligence that there were 
> trespassers at a known time and location could be useful.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:24 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Common sense seems to be lacking at home
> 
> I’m out of town. Wife called talking about how she stopped for gas in Tulsa 
> and the whole parking lot was full of the “undesirable” types. Soon a car 
> comes screeching up and some dude is waving a gun around. First of all, why 
> the hell would you stop somewhere like that for gas. 
> 
> She then says they got back home about an hour ago and the kid was taking out 
> the trash. He runs in and tells the wife to grab her gun and get outside. He 
> heard voices. Sure enough she says she heard voices sounded like it was 
> coming from the direction of the barn. She is telling this story like it was 
> no big deal. I say you called the cops, correct. Nope, thought maybe it was 
> coming from the neighbors hours and by the time the cops got here they would 
> be gone anyway. We are on 20 acres so if you hear voices people are somewhere 
> they shouldn’t be. Wtf? So we have shit loads of  cars around, a $30k tractor 
>  in the barn and didn’t think maybe you should call the cops. Not the first 
> time we have had thugs around but it’s been a while. I guess now they will 
> know it’s OK because we will just run in the house and not do anything about 
> it. I need to install some motion lights and cameras over by the shop and 
> barn. 
> 
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[MBZ] ML, heal thyself

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The ML500 was showing a CEL due to something in the fuel system, after the low 
fuel light came on. It was intermittent. I’m guessing it was the gas cap but 
maybe it was something else I don’t know. 

Anyway, the low fuel light went off but the CEL stayed on. I noticed a coupla 
days ago the CEL resolves itself too. I was going to put the scanner on it to 
clear the code but never did, so that saved me the trouble. The nannies got 
themselves happy again. 

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[MBZ] Wife body kits

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Cheapest easiest way to lower my ‘74 240d 
And do they make wife body kits for these cars

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