Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Well, in all fairness, he likely wouldn't have used the tools very much. 
I guess I should be happy that we raised a man who has a mind of his own 
even if his views are somewhat different than my own.


He and his younger brother are very different people. My younger son is 
a journeyman auto tech with a significant investment in Snap-On tools.


My elder son is an architect and is not much interested in any sort of 
do it yourself mechanical work. He does do work on his home. He and his 
wife have painted every square inch of the interior since they bought 
the house about 5 years ago, and have renovated both bathrooms. They 
have gutted the basement and have plans to improve it as a workshop 
mostly. They have plans to re-do the kitchen next. They have also made 
some fairly major changes to the back yard. She is a landscape architect 
so no doubt felt compelled to put her mark on it.


I just thought that the tool set was a good thing to have around even if 
he wasn't into rebuilding his car engine on the weekend. He buys new 
vehicles and has them serviced at the dealer.


Randy

On 7/18/2022 6:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

You use the fan to keep yourself cool, whilst paying someone treble an hour (or 
more) what you earn at your position to fix whatever is broken. (That you could 
have fixed, with a video or two, and some sense Oh and tools.)


Rick

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Tools for a fan? I don’t see the relationship. What can you fix with a fan?

-D


On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

At least she kept the tool set.

I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it for 
himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we needed some 
tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat sheepishly admitted that 
they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson fan with the monies. I wasn't 
angry but I did tell him that I thought that was a mistake on his part and that 
I had expressly bought him the tools because I thought he would need them and 
knew he would never buy a set like that for himself.

Randy

On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- big 
Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to Lowes and 
bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small hands made it 
easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!

Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with cars, but 
he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least there's that.  And 
even now that he has a real doc job he has no interest in upgrading his 2012ish 
CRV as he really likes it and it does what he wants it to do. He kinda got the 
cheap gene from me so there's that.

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yeah, I was going to point that out, too, but I didn’t want to pile on…

-D

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dyson is an expensive fan that isn't even a very good fan...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDOECfPLU5o
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 07:26:45 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> You use the fan to keep yourself cool, whilst paying someone treble an hour 
> (or more) what you earn at your position to fix whatever is broken. (That you 
> could have fixed, with a video or two, and some sense Oh and tools.)
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: July 18, 2022 6:10 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350
> 
> Tools for a fan? I don’t see the relationship. What can you fix with a fan?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> At least she kept the tool set.
>> 
>> I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it for 
>> himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we needed 
>> some tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat sheepishly admitted 
>> that they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson fan with the monies. I 
>> wasn't angry but I did tell him that I thought that was a mistake on his 
>> part and that I had expressly bought him the tools because I thought he 
>> would need them and knew he would never buy a set like that for himself.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- big 
>>> Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to Lowes 
>>> and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small hands 
>>> made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!
>>> 
>>> Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with cars, 
>>> but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least there's 
>>> that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no interest in 
>>> upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does what he wants 
>>> it to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's that.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dyson is an expensive fan that isn't even a very good fan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDOECfPLU5o

-Curt


On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 07:26:45 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

You use the fan to keep yourself cool, whilst paying someone treble an hour (or 
more) what you earn at your position to fix whatever is broken. (That you could 
have fixed, with a video or two, and some sense Oh and tools.)


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

Tools for a fan? I don’t see the relationship. What can you fix with a fan?

-D

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> At least she kept the tool set.
>
> I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it for 
> himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we needed 
> some tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat sheepishly admitted 
> that they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson fan with the monies. I 
> wasn't angry but I did tell him that I thought that was a mistake on his part 
> and that I had expressly bought him the tools because I thought he would need 
> them and knew he would never buy a set like that for himself.
>
> Randy
>
> On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- big 
>> Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to Lowes 
>> and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small hands 
>> made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!
>>
>> Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with cars, 
>> but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least there's 
>> that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no interest in 
>> upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does what he wants it 
>> to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's that.
>>
>> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
You use the fan to keep yourself cool, whilst paying someone treble an hour (or 
more) what you earn at your position to fix whatever is broken. (That you could 
have fixed, with a video or two, and some sense Oh and tools.)


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: July 18, 2022 6:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

Tools for a fan? I don’t see the relationship. What can you fix with a fan?

-D

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> At least she kept the tool set.
>
> I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it for 
> himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we needed 
> some tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat sheepishly admitted 
> that they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson fan with the monies. I 
> wasn't angry but I did tell him that I thought that was a mistake on his part 
> and that I had expressly bought him the tools because I thought he would need 
> them and knew he would never buy a set like that for himself.
>
> Randy
>
> On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- big 
>> Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to Lowes 
>> and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small hands 
>> made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!
>>
>> Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with cars, 
>> but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least there's 
>> that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no interest in 
>> upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does what he wants it 
>> to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's that.
>>
>> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Tools for a fan? I don’t see the relationship. What can you fix with a fan?

-D

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> At least she kept the tool set.
> 
> I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it for 
> himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we needed 
> some tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat sheepishly admitted 
> that they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson fan with the monies. I 
> wasn't angry but I did tell him that I thought that was a mistake on his part 
> and that I had expressly bought him the tools because I thought he would need 
> them and knew he would never buy a set like that for himself.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- big 
>> Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to Lowes 
>> and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small hands 
>> made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!
>> 
>> Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with cars, 
>> but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least there's 
>> that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no interest in 
>> upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does what he wants it 
>> to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's that.
>> 
>> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Beautiful car, salvage title, too high price -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 63 AMG Sedan 4D, $18, 400

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This S550 I got has a salvage title now.  I could see where it would be 
very costly to repair with new parts or even aftermarket, but it has 
been quite doable with used parts and a few new ones, aside from the 
effort and time involved with the chase.  Once it's done the car will be 
fine, not really anything structural or fatal.  I suppose it will never 
be worth what a straight-title car is, but it has been fun to sort it 
out.  I have one more part coming and then I should be able to get it 
all back together, change the trans filter/fluid, and get the AC 
sorted.  I'll maybe have $2k into all that so it is kind of a "cheap" 
way to get a nice big newer S.


--FT

On 7/18/22 6:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, it's when the insurance company has determined that damage exceeds value of the car 
and they buy it. They will then sell it on with a "Salvage" brand on the title.

I guess it may also happen if you sell the car directly to a salvage dealer and 
they resell it?

I have had insurance deem a car a total loss, but I thought I could repair it 
so bought it back for the salvage value. They just deducted that from what they 
paid for the loss. In that case the title never changed hands so it was still a 
normal title.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Is the most common cause of salvage title when a car was totaled?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 5:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Depending on what triggered the salvage title maybe ithe car is OK but
the price is not

Looks like could be Ludmilla's sister selling itIrina Koplyk

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/407534834679193

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Re: [MBZ] Beautiful car, salvage title, too high price -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 63 AMG Sedan 4D, $18, 400

2022-07-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yes, it's when the insurance company has determined that damage exceeds value 
of the car and they buy it. They will then sell it on with a "Salvage" brand on 
the title.

I guess it may also happen if you sell the car directly to a salvage dealer and 
they resell it?

I have had insurance deem a car a total loss, but I thought I could repair it 
so bought it back for the salvage value. They just deducted that from what they 
paid for the loss. In that case the title never changed hands so it was still a 
normal title.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Is the most common cause of salvage title when a car was totaled?
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 5:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Depending on what triggered the salvage title maybe ithe car is OK but
>> the price is not
>>
>> Looks like could be Ludmilla's sister selling itIrina Koplyk
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/407534834679193
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Beautiful car, salvage title, too high price -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 63 AMG Sedan 4D, $18, 400

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is the most common cause of salvage title when a car was totaled?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 5:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Depending on what triggered the salvage title maybe ithe car is OK but
> the price is not
>
> Looks like could be Ludmilla's sister selling itIrina Koplyk
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/407534834679193
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[MBZ] Beautiful car, salvage title, too high price -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 63 AMG Sedan 4D, $18, 400

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Depending on what triggered the salvage title maybe ithe car is OK but 
the price is not


Looks like could be Ludmilla's sister selling itIrina Koplyk

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/407534834679193

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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

At least she kept the tool set.

I bought my elder son a big set of tools as I knew he would not buy it 
for himself and I thought he should have it. I was visiting him and we 
needed some tool and I asked where the tools were. He somewhat 
sheepishly admitted that they had returned the tools and bought a Dyson 
fan with the monies. I wasn't angry but I did tell him that I thought 
that was a mistake on his part and that I had expressly bought him the 
tools because I thought he would need them and knew he would never buy a 
set like that for himself.


Randy

On 18/07/2022 4:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- 
big Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went 
to Lowes and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  
Small hands made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!


Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with 
cars, but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least 
there's that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no 
interest in upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it 
does what he wants it to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so 
there's that.


--FT



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Re: [MBZ] It was stored with an open water container which caused moisture. May have short/blown fuse. Mercedes CLS500 - $6, 995 (Charleston)

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Does not currently run" has no meaning.

"Does not start" or "Starts but dies" or "Runs only in limp mode" is far
more descriptive.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 11:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This could be a deal at half the price.  I presume it is not running,  I
> wonder if it was stored in the front yard
>
> This is a great car. It was stored with an open water container which
> caused moisture. May have short/blown fuse. New tires, new plugs and air
> shocks, recent tune up before storage. No paint issues or engine issues.
> Strictly electrical after storage. Clean title. Great opportunity to get
> a nice car at a great price.
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-cls500/7509388999.html
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
At least he remembers your phone number.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 5:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago --
> big Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to
> Lowes and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small
> hands made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!
>
> Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with
> cars, but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least
> there's that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no
> interest in upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does
> what he wants it to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's
> that.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/18/22 5:24 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > The most amazing thing about that whole story is having a girl child
> that can put on a crank position sensor.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is
> visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she got
> one and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner, she got
> an iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a coupla years
> ago, go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She scanned it and
> there were no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF came and
> determined there was no fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there is a Schrader
> valve there you can press and fuel should squirt out.  So maybe fuel pump?
> >>
> >> She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now
> 15yr) on the fuel system so if it is in there she is covered. She had the
> shop she bought it from in CH come collect it this morning, they ran
> diagnostics and found "Standing fuel in the sending unit" which I don't
> quite understand but it is covered by the extended warranty, so they were
> having it shipped off to the MB stealer, wherever it is.
> >>
> >> So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything
> to get it going again.
> >>
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[MBZ] Nice ML offroad build 2001 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 55 AMG Sport Utility 4D, $6, 800

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1174175139823688

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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I told her it was not hard to do.  Her toolset (I got her years ago -- 
big Craftsman set when it was still Sears) was back home so she went to 
Lowes and bought a set of torx somethings, did not take her long.  Small 
hands made it easier than when I did mine!  I raised her right!


Dr. Boy on the other hand has no patience or interest in dealing with 
cars, but he will call me when he thinks there is an issue so at least 
there's that.  And even now that he has a real doc job he has no 
interest in upgrading his 2012ish CRV as he really likes it and it does 
what he wants it to do. He kinda got the cheap gene from me so there's that.


--FT

On 7/18/22 5:24 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

The most amazing thing about that whole story is having a girl child that can 
put on a crank position sensor.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is 
visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she got one 
and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner, she got an 
iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a coupla years ago, 
go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She scanned it and there were 
no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF came and determined there was no 
fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there is a Schrader valve there you can press 
and fuel should squirt out.  So maybe fuel pump?

She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now 15yr) on the fuel 
system so if it is in there she is covered. She had the shop she bought it from in CH 
come collect it this morning, they ran diagnostics and found "Standing fuel in the 
sending unit" which I don't quite understand but it is covered by the extended 
warranty, so they were having it shipped off to the MB stealer, wherever it is.

So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything to get 
it going again.

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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Agreed.  I would have no idea where it is, what it does, or how to replace
it.  Go girl.

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 5:24 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> The most amazing thing about that whole story is having a girl child that
> can put on a crank position sensor.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is
> visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she got
> one and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner, she got
> an iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a coupla years
> ago, go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She scanned it and
> there were no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF came and
> determined there was no fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there is a Schrader
> valve there you can press and fuel should squirt out.  So maybe fuel pump?
> >
> > She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now
> 15yr) on the fuel system so if it is in there she is covered. She had the
> shop she bought it from in CH come collect it this morning, they ran
> diagnostics and found "Standing fuel in the sending unit" which I don't
> quite understand but it is covered by the extended warranty, so they were
> having it shipped off to the MB stealer, wherever it is.
> >
> > So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything
> to get it going again.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The most amazing thing about that whole story is having a girl child that can 
put on a crank position sensor. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is 
> visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she got one 
> and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner, she got an 
> iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a coupla years ago, 
> go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She scanned it and there were 
> no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF came and determined there was 
> no fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there is a Schrader valve there you can 
> press and fuel should squirt out.  So maybe fuel pump?
> 
> She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now 15yr) 
> on the fuel system so if it is in there she is covered. She had the shop she 
> bought it from in CH come collect it this morning, they ran diagnostics and 
> found "Standing fuel in the sending unit" which I don't quite understand but 
> it is covered by the extended warranty, so they were having it shipped off to 
> the MB stealer, wherever it is.
> 
> So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything to get 
> it going again.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had a similar situation with my 2014 GK 250.  BlueDef fluid heater
malfunction Would have set me back $2700.  Fortunately, was covered under
unlimited warranty.

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> was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is
> visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she
> got one and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner,
> she got an iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a
> coupla years ago, go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She
> scanned it and there were no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF
> came and determined there was no fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there
> is a Schrader valve there you can press and fuel should squirt out.  So
> maybe fuel pump?
>
> She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now
> 15yr) on the fuel system so if it is in there she is covered. She had
> the shop she bought it from in CH come collect it this morning, they ran
> diagnostics and found "Standing fuel in the sending unit" which I don't
> quite understand but it is covered by the extended warranty, so they
> were having it shipped off to the MB stealer, wherever it is.
>
> So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything to
> get it going again.
>
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[MBZ] Girl child's 08E350

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
was dead in the driveway Saturday morning in Chapel Hill where she is 
visiting.  Crank but no fire.  I suggested crank position sensor, she 
got one and put it on, still no fire.  I suggested she order a scanner, 
she got an iCarsoft MB2 (which is now cheaper than when I bought one a 
coupla years ago, go figure) that arrived yesterday from Amazon.  She 
scanned it and there were no indications of what might be wrong.  Her BF 
came and determined there was no fuel pressure at the fuel rail, there 
is a Schrader valve there you can press and fuel should squirt out.  So 
maybe fuel pump?


She did some research and found out there is an extended warranty (now 
15yr) on the fuel system so if it is in there she is covered. She had 
the shop she bought it from in CH come collect it this morning, they ran 
diagnostics and found "Standing fuel in the sending unit" which I don't 
quite understand but it is covered by the extended warranty, so they 
were having it shipped off to the MB stealer, wherever it is.


So anyway, some good news I guess, at least it won't cost her anything to get 
it going again.

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 450SL - 49k miles - $9,500

2022-07-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
They should not be confused with a "sports car", they are "grand touring"
cars. I found the SLC to be very nice on the highway, and the same as most
other MBs in town. I'd say the SLC was the equal to the SDL on the highway.
I only wish it had the 560 engine and four speed tranny, oh, and the ACCIII
(and no sunroof).

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> I’m not sure what people’s attraction is to the R107s. They’re heavy,
> underpowered (except the 560) and aren’t that enjoyable or exciting to
> drive. I seriously considered a 450SL some years ago, but the more I drove
> them the less I liked them.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 18, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Another one. Less interesting color.
> >
> >
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[MBZ] 1990 300SE - 152k miles - $6,000

2022-07-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Pics look nice, though none of the interior. Wonder what the "minor superficial 
damage that is being corrected" is about?

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/florence-1990-mercedes-se/7510359908.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 C55 AMG - 196k miles - $7,800

2022-07-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have always found Google's navigation to be superior to Apple's, not even 
considering traffic. Apple Maps was ridiculously bad early, and from what I've 
seen it's still behind.


On Mon, Jul 18, 2022, at 3:59 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2022-07-17 15:31, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> That's my main problem with it. Your phone has a screen, and can do
>> navigation.
>
> Goolag Maps are continuously updated for traffic and road closings.
> Last week I learned that Apple Maps will cheerfully direct you down the 
> closed section of I-496 in Lansing. I knew it was closed a few weeks 
> ago, so luckily I aimed my web browser at Goolag to double check.
>
> IIRC, Goolag controls its own maps, and Apple's maps are sourced 
> elsewhere, like maybe TomTom?
> Which is odd, because TomTom dashboard units used to have a traffic 
> option ten years ago and that would be far easier to implement on modern 
> hardware over the phone network.
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 C55 AMG - 196k miles - $7,800

2022-07-18 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-07-17 15:31, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

That's my main problem with it. Your phone has a screen, and can do
navigation.


Goolag Maps are continuously updated for traffic and road closings.
Last week I learned that Apple Maps will cheerfully direct you down the 
closed section of I-496 in Lansing. I knew it was closed a few weeks 
ago, so luckily I aimed my web browser at Goolag to double check.


IIRC, Goolag controls its own maps, and Apple's maps are sourced 
elsewhere, like maybe TomTom?
Which is odd, because TomTom dashboard units used to have a traffic 
option ten years ago and that would be far easier to implement on modern 
hardware over the phone network.


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Re: [MBZ] 1976 450SL - 49k miles - $9,500

2022-07-18 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’m not sure what people’s attraction is to the R107s. They’re heavy, 
underpowered (except the 560) and aren’t that enjoyable or exciting to drive. I 
seriously considered a 450SL some years ago, but the more I drove them the less 
I liked them.

-D

> On Jul 18, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Another one. Less interesting color.
> 
> https://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/d/edwardsburg-1976-mercedes-benz-450-sl/7510306567.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1978 450SL - 74k miles - $8,000

2022-07-18 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s there. If you look at the picture of the driver’s seat and dash, you can 
see the stalk just below the oil pressure gauge and at the edge of the steering 
wheel spoke on the left.

Rust on an R107 is a very bad thing. Anywhere. That driver’s door is a mess.

Rear bumper is definitely tweaked, as are the bumper caps on the front.

Love the color.

-D



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> 
> Rear bumper sagging on right? Or is that a camera perspective thing?
> 
> Did these not have cruise control? I don't see it on the steering column or 
> under the hood.
> 
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[MBZ] 1976 450SL - 49k miles - $9,500

2022-07-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Another one. Less interesting color.

https://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/d/edwardsburg-1976-mercedes-benz-450-sl/7510306567.html
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[MBZ] 1978 450SL - 74k miles - $8,000

2022-07-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Rear bumper sagging on right? Or is that a camera perspective thing?

Did these not have cruise control? I don't see it on the steering column or 
under the hood.

https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/d/springfield-1978-mercedes-benz-450sl/7510304381.html
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Not quite as long a run as the even tougher 504, of which more than three
million were produced between 1968 and 2006!

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>
> Although Citroens are dearest to me, I can tell you that there's a reason
> Peugeot 504 and 505 models are still running around in Africa and South
> America... VERY tough cars, although the engines can be hit and miss. Super
> comfortable as well. And when you consider that the 505 debuted *43 years
> ago* and was in production for 18 years through 1997, all the more
> remarkable.
>
> A scene from Bastille Day in San Francisco, Citroens and Peugeots in
> attendance:
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT I saw one of these the other day

2022-07-18 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-07-18 09:40, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
It is beautiful design and the performance looks very good too. Spendy 
though


https://www.lucidmotors.com/air-grand-touring

https://jalopnik.com/the-lucid-air-grand-touring-makes-the-tesla-model-s-fee-1849188800



The top-dog Tesla offers a slightly better 0-60 time (1.99 seconds vs. 
the Lucid’s 2.6) plus the nation’s best charging network, for around 
$45,000 less.



I would say the difference between 2 seconds and 2.6 seconds isn't 
slight. You probably can't feel it, but that's a huge gap in performance 
car bragging rights. I wonder if there's something wrong with their 
traction control, or if it's just biased towards decent tire life. 
1000hp should be enough to keep 4 wheels chirping all the way past 60.


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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Thank you. Thank you very much. 

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> I believe Floyd to have that title.
> 
> 
> Rick
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> Sent: July 18, 2022 7:51 AM
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> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeots
> 
> Looks like Okie Acres East over there.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
>> 
>> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
>> 
>> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
>> 
>> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
>> 
>> All have good engines and were running when parked
>> 
>> Xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I believe Floyd to have that title.


Rick

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Sent: July 18, 2022 7:51 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

Looks like Okie Acres East over there.

AZBob

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> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
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> Folks
>
> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
>
> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
>
> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
>
> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
>
> All have good engines and were running when parked
>
> Xx rick
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[MBZ] OT I saw one of these the other day

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It is beautiful design and the performance looks very good too. Spendy 
though


https://www.lucidmotors.com/air-grand-touring

https://jalopnik.com/the-lucid-air-grand-touring-makes-the-tesla-model-s-fee-1849188800

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[MBZ] Needs front end work and power steering. 2007 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 550 Sedan 4D, $2, 000

2022-07-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

oops

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1357150698030594

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Re: [MBZ] Peugeots

2022-07-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Looks like Okie Acres East over there. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 17, 2022, at 9:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> I drove Peugeots for 20 years
> 
> Here’s the best of the last ones I have
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1454623288319140/
> 
> 706-540-3285 after 2 Pm if you need one
> 
> I have 4 or 5 left …. Bring a trailer
> 
> All have good engines and were running when parked
> 
> Xx rick
> 
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> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
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