Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Can't tell you how to prioritize income over other benefits or costs like travel, but maybe do what feels right and good things will happen. You could get them to cut you in on an equity stake with tag along rights. Then if they flip the company to another private equity group, which is what they all want to do at 5 years, at least you get paid out for your shares at the same multiple everyone else does, and it is taxed at capital gains rates. I woukd not worry at all about reputation at current company. When they realize you have options is when they start to take you more seriously. Otherwise a highly personal decision. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 5:02 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Basically the way it works with this new job is you have a base but get a > bonus for each week you are out based on how many days it is. I talked to > them some more and basically they send out an email with what city/dates > the trip is and everyone available looks at travel and sends them quotes > for the cost. Whoever can get there cheapest will get it. For me, with most > flights being connecting flights and flights returning have to generally be > after 6-7pm, there would be no flights all the way back to Tulsa so I would > have to stay an extra night and fly out the next morning. This will result > is me probably getting less “assignments”, resulting in the numbers coming > in at the lower end of my estimation. > > I also asked about rental cars since you just book travel wherever. At my > current job we have a booking tool we used and we have contracts with a > coupe of different companies we use. Part of the contract includes damage > coverage and we are to waive it at booking. Company won’t cover it. I asked > them do they reimburse the rental insurance or what. Basically they are > relying on whatever credit card we use to cover it. > > The bidding process and this rental car liability question are leading me > to believe I should pass. However, even if I don’t get as many trips I > would end up working 2 weeks a month and would be at home the other 2 > working on cars. Could still end up making the same or more than currently, > or could be less if my current job does not change anything with our pay > plan. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Exactly my point. At that time in my career I didn’t want to bounce > around for a better deal unless I was satisfied it would be a long term > gig. It’s also a PITA to be changing horses after a while, you always lose > something in the deal no matter what. Might not be tangible, but the only > way you gain is by sticking around for a while. > > > > -D > > > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yes I have probably 20 years to go. I am at the stage where I don’t > want to just hop jobs just for the sake of chance and will soon be in the > territory of possible age discrimination where they prefer to hire some > young kid instead of me. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you > are to an exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years > before he can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine > treats with the Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape > once he gets his shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at > this point, so that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow > personal preferences, such as travel. I did much the same when I took the > job back at the County in Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less > commuting and more money/better benefits, even though it’s something I > don’t enjoy doing and never will. That could easily change and I could > flip-flop again, but it would be a final move that would force me to make > (permanent) changes in my life I’m ready for but Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up > for at this point. It’s all about compromise, isn’t it? > >>> > >>> I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit > team who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common > interests, more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having > to spend money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to > commute, all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than > personal interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at > the office maybe once a month. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction > with > my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. > > > On
Re: [MBZ] OT: 1979 Scout Diesel - $9,000
Does the sale come with a custom fitted back brace and hip surgery? I owned one of those for a while, and it rode like an angry camel, and drove like a herd of ducks... aim it and hope.. Acceleration was measured in light years. Not on my "bucket list" to collect, or own. On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Prices for Scouts are absurd... > About 100hp, not terribly sprightly... > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: "rare factory Nissan turbo diesel" > > Was that a thing? Interesting > > "The remaining work will need to be done to make it road worthy." > > Too bad they don't disclose what that entails > > > https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/mitchell-1979-ih-scout-ii/7520819400.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Basically the way it works with this new job is you have a base but get a bonus for each week you are out based on how many days it is. I talked to them some more and basically they send out an email with what city/dates the trip is and everyone available looks at travel and sends them quotes for the cost. Whoever can get there cheapest will get it. For me, with most flights being connecting flights and flights returning have to generally be after 6-7pm, there would be no flights all the way back to Tulsa so I would have to stay an extra night and fly out the next morning. This will result is me probably getting less “assignments”, resulting in the numbers coming in at the lower end of my estimation. I also asked about rental cars since you just book travel wherever. At my current job we have a booking tool we used and we have contracts with a coupe of different companies we use. Part of the contract includes damage coverage and we are to waive it at booking. Company won’t cover it. I asked them do they reimburse the rental insurance or what. Basically they are relying on whatever credit card we use to cover it. The bidding process and this rental car liability question are leading me to believe I should pass. However, even if I don’t get as many trips I would end up working 2 weeks a month and would be at home the other 2 working on cars. Could still end up making the same or more than currently, or could be less if my current job does not change anything with our pay plan. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Exactly my point. At that time in my career I didn’t want to bounce around > for a better deal unless I was satisfied it would be a long term gig. It’s > also a PITA to be changing horses after a while, you always lose something in > the deal no matter what. Might not be tangible, but the only way you gain is > by sticking around for a while. > > -D > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yes I have probably 20 years to go. I am at the stage where I don’t want to >> just hop jobs just for the sake of chance and will soon be in the territory >> of possible age discrimination where they prefer to hire some young kid >> instead of me. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you are to >>> an exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years before >>> he can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine treats with >>> the Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape once he gets >>> his shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at this point, so >>> that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow personal >>> preferences, such as travel. I did much the same when I took the job back >>> at the County in Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less commuting and >>> more money/better benefits, even though it’s something I don’t enjoy doing >>> and never will. That could easily change and I could flip-flop again, but >>> it would be a final move that would force me to make (permanent) changes in >>> my life I’m ready for but Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up for at this point. It’s >>> all about compromise, isn’t it? >>> >>> I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit team >>> who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common >>> interests, more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having >>> to spend money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to >>> commute, all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than >>> personal interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at >>> the office maybe once a month. >>> >>> -D >>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing > mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that > resulted > in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any > factor in > their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with > your > almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero > there. > Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's > virtually > guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. > Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's > excellent. > But,
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
Most likely, but check your neutral safety switch first once you’ve confirmed the battery is good. The electrical portion of the ignition switch can be replaced without having to replace the whole assembly. It’s a bit of a PITA to do in-frame, but it can be done with an offset screwdriver and some patience. It’s recommended to remove the whole assembly, but that’s a major undertaking. Be careful to reconnect the vacuum lines when you’re done, as they often get disconnected with all the moving stuff around in there. You should verify, but I believe the part number is a 202 545 01 04 64. Message me your VIN and I can look it up to be sure. -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 3:56 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just > fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due > to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a > newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except the > cigarette lighter and dome light. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:39 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
> Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just > fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due > to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a > newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except the > cigarette lighter and dome light. Probably. Cig/dome are unswitched circuits. Starter/glow are not** fused, so there's little to go wrong there besides the switch. That is, IFF the parking lights stay on when you try to start. If they go out too, one of the big battery cable connections is flakey, or the battery is dead. You didn't say whether stick or slushbox, but the neutral safety switch on a slushbox can prevent cranking if it goes out. Try N as well. But, won't affect glow. **there is a GP fuse, but that doesn't affect cranking. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
Check the battery connection. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 3:57 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just > fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due > to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a > newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except the > cigarette lighter and dome light. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:39 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
Speaking of diagnostics, when the diesel 123 takes your kid to school just fine, but then no glow and no starter when you try to go home, is that due to the switch behind the ignition key? Headlights work fine and it has a newish AGM battery. But no power to windows or anything else except the cigarette lighter and dome light. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 9:39 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
I miss that sound. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 2:13 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > We know how that picture sounds. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > very welcome > > > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Dwight. > >> Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good > >> laugh today. > >> Thank you! > >> Fred. > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> *snort*! > >>> Saving that one for later. > >>> > >>> -Curt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via > Mercedes > >> < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Fred Moir > >> Lynn MA > >> Diesel preferred > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Custom 2002 CLK 430 AMG - 180k miles - $15,000
You don’t actually drive it fast, it’s just for posing --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I gotta wonder how much all that plastic body kit flops and rattles in the > wind at speed. > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 13:01, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Not my cup of tea, but it is well executed. I think the spoiler and >> ground effects are a bit over the top. >> >> There’s a person in my neighborhood with a late model Corvette that has >> a big spoiler on the back. I’ll have to get a picture of it and post. >> It looks pretty comical. >> >> -D >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Eye bleach warning. >>> >>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/highland-custom-2002-mercedes-clk-430/7521553606.html >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 CLS550 - $6,000
I now how too doo that. Not to hard. Not bad price if car is otherwise in decent shape --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > "needs air compressor replacement for shocks" > > "the car is low rider know" > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairview-heights-07-mercedes-cls550/7521399180.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
Reminds me of the one that went around the office for one of the older guys, titled "Gary's new workstation" On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 13:13, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > We know how that picture sounds. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> very welcome >> >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dwight. >>> Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good >>> laugh today. >>> Thank you! >>> Fred. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> *snort*! Saving that one for later. -Curt On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >>> < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> Fred Moir >>> Lynn MA >>> Diesel preferred >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
We know how that picture sounds. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > very welcome > >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Dwight. >> Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good >> laugh today. >> Thank you! >> Fred. >> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> *snort*! >>> Saving that one for later. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fred Moir >> Lynn MA >> Diesel preferred >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Exactly my point. At that time in my career I didn’t want to bounce around for a better deal unless I was satisfied it would be a long term gig. It’s also a PITA to be changing horses after a while, you always lose something in the deal no matter what. Might not be tangible, but the only way you gain is by sticking around for a while. -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes I have probably 20 years to go. I am at the stage where I don’t want to > just hop jobs just for the sake of chance and will soon be in the territory > of possible age discrimination where they prefer to hire some young kid > instead of me. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you are to >> an exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years before >> he can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine treats with >> the Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape once he gets >> his shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at this point, so >> that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow personal >> preferences, such as travel. I did much the same when I took the job back at >> the County in Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less commuting and more >> money/better benefits, even though it’s something I don’t enjoy doing and >> never will. That could easily change and I could flip-flop again, but it >> would be a final move that would force me to make (permanent) changes in my >> life I’m ready for but Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up for at this point. It’s all >> about compromise, isn’t it? >> >> I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit team >> who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common interests, >> more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having to spend >> money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to commute, >> all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than personal >> interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at the office >> maybe once a month. >> >> -D >> >>> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with >>> my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that resulted in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any factor in their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with your almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's virtually guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's excellent. But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold last year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, there were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were 'valuable'... up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, buh-bye. We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their least-expensive domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not arguably, their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge retention. But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got started. They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long enough to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic competency. (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script kiddies trying to take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? It is to laugh.) I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different things. Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned
Re: [MBZ] Custom 2002 CLK 430 AMG - 180k miles - $15,000
I gotta wonder how much all that plastic body kit flops and rattles in the wind at speed. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, at 13:01, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Not my cup of tea, but it is well executed. I think the spoiler and > ground effects are a bit over the top. > > There’s a person in my neighborhood with a late model Corvette that has > a big spoiler on the back. I’ll have to get a picture of it and post. > It looks pretty comical. > > -D > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Eye bleach warning. >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/highland-custom-2002-mercedes-clk-430/7521553606.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
very welcome On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 1:49 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dwight. > Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good > laugh today. > Thank you! > Fred. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > *snort*! > > Saving that one for later. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Custom 2002 CLK 430 AMG - 180k miles - $15,000
Not my cup of tea, but it is well executed. I think the spoiler and ground effects are a bit over the top. There’s a person in my neighborhood with a late model Corvette that has a big spoiler on the back. I’ll have to get a picture of it and post. It looks pretty comical. -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Eye bleach warning. > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/highland-custom-2002-mercedes-clk-430/7521553606.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Yes I have probably 20 years to go. I am at the stage where I don’t want to just hop jobs just for the sake of chance and will soon be in the territory of possible age discrimination where they prefer to hire some young kid instead of me. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you are to an > exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years before he > can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine treats with the > Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape once he gets his > shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at this point, so > that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow personal preferences, > such as travel. I did much the same when I took the job back at the County in > Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less commuting and more money/better > benefits, even though it’s something I don’t enjoy doing and never will. That > could easily change and I could flip-flop again, but it would be a final move > that would force me to make (permanent) changes in my life I’m ready for but > Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up for at this point. It’s all about compromise, isn’t > it? > > I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit team > who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common interests, > more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having to spend > money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to commute, > all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than personal > interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at the office > maybe once a month. > > -D > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with >> my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. >> >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing >>> mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that >>> resulted >>> in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any >>> factor in >>> their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with >>> your >>> almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. >>> Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's >>> virtually >>> guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. >>> Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's >>> excellent. >>> But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold >>> last >>> year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner >>> found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. >>> >>> My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office >>> was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, >>> there >>> were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were >>> 'valuable'... >>> up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, >>> buh-bye. >>> We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their >>> least-expensive >>> domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not >>> arguably, >>> their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge >>> retention. >>> But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got >>> started. >>> They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long >>> enough >>> to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose >>> questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic >>> competency. >>> (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script >>> kiddies trying to >>> take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? >>> It is to laugh.) >>> >>> I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral >>> move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different >>> things. >>> Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same >>> clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned company with an >>> excellent reputation. Wasn't even a contest, I didn't even look at the >>> secondary >>> benefits, and never looked back. >>> >>> So, which people do you trust more? Money is only one of the factors in >>> having a good life. >>> >>> If I were offered 2x my current salary, but would have to travel 3 weeks >>> out of >>> the month, I would not take it. Wouldn't even consider it. Just sayin'. >>> I know >>> what's important to me. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>>
[MBZ] Custom 2002 CLK 430 AMG - 180k miles - $15,000
Eye bleach warning. https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/highland-custom-2002-mercedes-clk-430/7521553606.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 07 CLS550 - $6,000
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Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
Dwight. Until I burst out laughing it never occurred to me that I needed a good laugh today. Thank you! Fred. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > *snort*! > Saving that one for later. > > -Curt > > > > > > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Some excellent points, Jim. One thing to consider is how close you are to an exit strategy, that is, retirement. Kaleb’s still got some years before he can start working full time at Okie Acres making yummy Maine treats with the Missus and getting all of that German iron back into shape once he gets his shop sorted out. You gotta be in it for the long game at this point, so that’s consideration as well that can often overshadow personal preferences, such as travel. I did much the same when I took the job back at the County in Florida over the job in Flagstaff - less commuting and more money/better benefits, even though it’s something I don’t enjoy doing and never will. That could easily change and I could flip-flop again, but it would be a final move that would force me to make (permanent) changes in my life I’m ready for but Mrs. Dan isn’t quite up for at this point. It’s all about compromise, isn’t it? I do miss the interaction with my co-workers, as we are a tightly knit team who have worked together closely over nearly 10 years with common interests, more friends than co-workers. That being said, I like not having to spend money for gas, food and clothing, as well as the use of my time to commute, all of which are higher on the hierarchy of needs for me than personal interaction. We make up for it by getting together for lunch at the office maybe once a month. -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with > my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing >> mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that >> resulted >> in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any >> factor in >> their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with >> your >> almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. >> Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's >> virtually >> guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. >> Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's >> excellent. >> But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold >> last >> year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner >> found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. >> >> My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office >> was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, >> there >> were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were >> 'valuable'... >> up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, >> buh-bye. >> We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their >> least-expensive >> domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not >> arguably, >> their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge >> retention. >> But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got >> started. >> They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long >> enough >> to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose >> questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic >> competency. >> (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script >> kiddies trying to >> take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? >> It is to laugh.) >> >> I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral >> move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different >> things. >> Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same >> clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned company with an >> excellent reputation. Wasn't even a contest, I didn't even look at the >> secondary >> benefits, and never looked back. >> >> So, which people do you trust more? Money is only one of the factors in >> having a good life. >> >> If I were offered 2x my current salary, but would have to travel 3 weeks >> out of >> the month, I would not take it. Wouldn't even consider it. Just sayin'. >> I know >> what's important to me. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merce
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
I retired during the pandemic because I missed the human interaction with my co-workers. That outweighed any financial considerations. On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:59 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing > mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that > resulted > in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any > factor in > their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with > your > almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. > Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's > virtually > guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. > Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's > excellent. > But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold > last > year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner > found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. > > My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office > was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, > there > were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were > 'valuable'... > up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, > buh-bye. > We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their > least-expensive > domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not > arguably, > their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge > retention. > But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got > started. > They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long > enough > to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose > questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic > competency. > (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script > kiddies trying to > take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? > It is to laugh.) > > I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral > move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different > things. > Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same > clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned company with an > excellent reputation. Wasn't even a contest, I didn't even look at the > secondary > benefits, and never looked back. > > So, which people do you trust more? Money is only one of the factors in > having a good life. > > If I were offered 2x my current salary, but would have to travel 3 weeks > out of > the month, I would not take it. Wouldn't even consider it. Just sayin'. > I know > what's important to me. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
*snort*! Saving that one for later. -Curt On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 12:39:10 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT changing jobs long post
Your current company has shown their stripes. They are in an outsourcing mood, driven by greed. I have never seen an outsourcing drive that resulted in happier customers. Usually quite the opposite. If loyalty was any factor in their planning, they wouldn't have been outsourcing. That, combined with your almost-left, means you can probably count on somewhat less than zero there. Almost all companies basically have zero loyalty baked into them, it's virtually guaranteed by the accountant-in-charge mentality that rules these days. Family companies could value loyalty. I work for one, they do, and it's excellent. But, one shake-up in the family and that could change. It was almost sold last year, and overnight would have been part of a corporate umbrella, but owner found he just couldn't do it. So, reprieved. My last company they talked about loyalty and how valuable our small office was. (Since we'd invented a major part of their product portfolio.) But, there were continuing small signs that made us nervous. Yes, we were 'valuable'... up until the day they announced they were closing our office entirely, buh-bye. We were, arguably, their best people. We were, arguably, their least-expensive domestic resources, due to location in flyover territory. We were, not arguably, their office with the lowest turnover, and thus the greatest knowledge retention. But none of that mattered once corporate politics and musical chairs got started. They split up our stuff between India, who couldn't retain anybody long enough to even complete the training, and a bunch of silicon valley newbies whose questions in meetings beforehand made me wonder about their basic competency. (Bunch of 'did you try turning it off and then back on again' script kiddies trying to take over network backbone gear with five-nines SLAs on redundant hardware? It is to laugh.) I and a few others were offered work-from-home deals. I also had a lateral move on the table, working for the theme park doing _very_ different things. Also work-from-home. Hmm, same pay same conditions. One for the same clueless lying assholes, and one for a local family-owned company with an excellent reputation. Wasn't even a contest, I didn't even look at the secondary benefits, and never looked back. So, which people do you trust more? Money is only one of the factors in having a good life. If I were offered 2x my current salary, but would have to travel 3 weeks out of the month, I would not take it. Wouldn't even consider it. Just sayin'. I know what's important to me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diagnostics
How true! Huzzah for analog -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 12:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters
It keeps the ESP and ABS nannies happy and probably 17 others too --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 15, 2022, at 9:19 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is true, especially for later cars with adaptive (air) suspension. I’m > not sure how much it comes into play with a “standard” vehicle like my ML550. > I believe it may play into braking, but I’ve got conventional suspension, so > it makes no difference there. I know it doesn’t affect my rear camera, it’s > not that smart. > > -D > >> On Aug 15, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> One of the things you get with the Mercedes trailer package is modification >> of suspension and stability systems software to help handle the heavier >> trailer load. It also modifies the rear car detection since you have added a >> trailer. All of this is automatic when the car detects the trail addition. I >> do not tow a heavy trailer currently but may in the future. There is also a >> change to the rear camera view, when you select trailer mode to help align >> trailer and hitch for hookup. >> >> Bob Massmann >> 2012 ML350 BT >> 2002 BMW 525i >> Oregonia, Ohio >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via >> Mercedes >> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 1:28 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Allan Streib >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters >> >> When I put the tow hitch on my Volvo, I bought a separate light controller >> for the trailer lights. It plugs into the car's factory wiring harness for >> the taillights, so no cutting or splicing wires, and has an independent >> power connection. It doesn't appreciably change the load on the car's >> lighting, so the "bulb-out" nannies are happy, and it handles LED or >> incandescent trailers fine as it's just supplying 12v signals. Mine has a >> 4-pin flat connector for the trailer. >> >> >>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, at 08:42, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Rick, >>> >>> That’s a straight adapter from 7 pin to 4/5 pin - I’ve got one. It >>> does nothing to allow the car to work with LED trailer lights, that’s >>> the issue. The “bulb out” feature of the car won’t play nice with LED >>> trailer lights, so there’s got to be an adapter to put the necessary >>> load on the circuits to “fool” the car into working with the LEDs. >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters
This is true, especially for later cars with adaptive (air) suspension. I’m not sure how much it comes into play with a “standard” vehicle like my ML550. I believe it may play into braking, but I’ve got conventional suspension, so it makes no difference there. I know it doesn’t affect my rear camera, it’s not that smart. -D > On Aug 15, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes > wrote: > > One of the things you get with the Mercedes trailer package is modification > of suspension and stability systems software to help handle the heavier > trailer load. It also modifies the rear car detection since you have added a > trailer. All of this is automatic when the car detects the trail addition. I > do not tow a heavy trailer currently but may in the future. There is also a > change to the rear camera view, when you select trailer mode to help align > trailer and hitch for hookup. > > Bob Massmann > 2012 ML350 BT > 2002 BMW 525i > Oregonia, Ohio > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via > Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 1:28 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Allan Streib > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters > > When I put the tow hitch on my Volvo, I bought a separate light controller > for the trailer lights. It plugs into the car's factory wiring harness for > the taillights, so no cutting or splicing wires, and has an independent power > connection. It doesn't appreciably change the load on the car's lighting, so > the "bulb-out" nannies are happy, and it handles LED or incandescent trailers > fine as it's just supplying 12v signals. Mine has a 4-pin flat connector for > the trailer. > > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, at 08:42, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Rick, >> >> That’s a straight adapter from 7 pin to 4/5 pin - I’ve got one. It >> does nothing to allow the car to work with LED trailer lights, that’s >> the issue. The “bulb out” feature of the car won’t play nice with LED >> trailer lights, so there’s got to be an adapter to put the necessary >> load on the circuits to “fool” the car into working with the LEDs. >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Max Dillion Please Reply
Max, I change computers and do not have you contact information. Just wanted to let you know that I will be in Mt. Pleasant for about a week visiting my sister. Will be driving down there tomorrow in my ML 350 BT. May have time to have lunch or something. Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters
One of the things you get with the Mercedes trailer package is modification of suspension and stability systems software to help handle the heavier trailer load. It also modifies the rear car detection since you have added a trailer. All of this is automatic when the car detects the trail addition. I do not tow a heavy trailer currently but may in the future. There is also a change to the rear camera view, when you select trailer mode to help align trailer and hitch for hookup. Bob Massmann 2012 ML350 BT 2002 BMW 525i Oregonia, Ohio -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer adapters When I put the tow hitch on my Volvo, I bought a separate light controller for the trailer lights. It plugs into the car's factory wiring harness for the taillights, so no cutting or splicing wires, and has an independent power connection. It doesn't appreciably change the load on the car's lighting, so the "bulb-out" nannies are happy, and it handles LED or incandescent trailers fine as it's just supplying 12v signals. Mine has a 4-pin flat connector for the trailer. On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, at 08:42, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Rick, > > That’s a straight adapter from 7 pin to 4/5 pin - I’ve got one. It > does nothing to allow the car to work with LED trailer lights, that’s > the issue. The “bulb out” feature of the car won’t play nice with LED > trailer lights, so there’s got to be an adapter to put the necessary > load on the circuits to “fool” the car into working with the LEDs. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
