[MBZ] The rebuilt title is due to (briefly explain the reason for the rebuilt title, if known).2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The car is in good condition overall with minor cosmetic imperfections.

Price: Asking $2,000 or best offer. Open to negotiations but please, no 
lowball offers.


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[MBZ] I DONT NO WHAT I GOT 2004 Mercedes CL500 - $7, 400 (WILMINGTON)

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https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmington-2004-mercedes-cl500/7768477404.html

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[MBZ] 2012 Mercedes Benz C250 Minty - $7,950 (Charlotte, NC)

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Minty fresh!

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2012-mercedes-benz-c250-minty/7768549775.html

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[MBZ] last ran about 10 years ago 83 300D Mercedes - $1,000

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could be worth negotiating

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[MBZ] Drunk posting -- 1958 Mercedes-Benz 300 se,$20,000

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"Patinated" for sure

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[MBZ] LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE OVER PAYMENTS 2014 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 350 BlueTEC 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D, $3, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Unlike the seller

MUST PUT 3000 upfront 627 a month MUST BE RESPONSIBLE!

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Re: [MBZ] if you’re a benz guy you’ll know is a clean car when you see it 2008 Mercedes S550 with AMG Features & Rims,$5,500

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Looks decent and if as described that is not a too bad price

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On 7/22/24 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

At what price are you a Buyer?

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 10:09 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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feel free to bring your mechanic with you

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[MBZ] sitting in the barn for years has not been started in about 4 years 1971 Mercedes-Benz 280SE, $8, 875

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Crappy pics but looks decent as best can be seen. Price high for a 
non-runner


with very little effort can be show quality

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[MBZ] if you’re a benz guy you’ll know is a clean car when you see it 2008 Mercedes S550 with AMG Features & Rims,$5,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

feel free to bring your mechanic with you

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[MBZ] car has been sitting for years Or so. 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $2, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Begging a question...

Everything works 100 % when parked.

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Re: [MBZ] OT sitting for about 35 years found hidden in a garage 1959 Jaguar mark 9, $4, 500

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Given the interest in these things from collectors and restorers I would 
think that the Brits might have modern repro parts and wiring harnesses 
and such for them.  Might not be cheap, but if available...  You can 
basically build a E-type from aftermarket parts so there is a whole 
industry out there on that.


--FT

On 7/21/24 6:02 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Lucas "The Prince of Darkness" electrical system... The engines are stout..
the electrical systems will drive you to suicidal insanity.. in that era,
the wire harnass is almost all braided cotton wrapped wires with connectors
that don't connect, but corrode.
At this point, replacement parts are decades of "out of production" so
ownership is not recommended for the faint of spirit, or the faint of
wallet.


On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 2:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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Looks complete and not too bad for the age and history.  Could be a
rolling resto.  I think those engines were quite stout, I wonder if it
could be brought back to life.  Cool car

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[MBZ] Speaking of hybrids -- Mercedes Motor,$1,900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I guess the rotating part is on the crankshaft

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[MBZ] OT sitting for about 35 years found hidden in a garage 1959 Jaguar mark 9, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks complete and not too bad for the age and history.  Could be a 
rolling resto.  I think those engines were quite stout, I wonder if it 
could be brought back to life.  Cool car


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Re: [MBZ] 617 oil pan gasket

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well it can't really hurt to apply some RTV if it was done before.  Then 
keep an eye on it and check for flat if you have to get a new gasket


--FT

On 7/21/24 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Dropped the pan on the 617 doing the turbo oil drain. Whoever removed pan 
before used rtv on it. I had a new pan gasket in stock but thing might be 15 
years old. Torqued bolts to spec. Filled with oil, pan leaks badly. Tightened 
them down just a bit more and leaks slowed down but still leaks. Assuming the 
old gasket is too hard and old to seal. Or, perhaps someone tighten pan too 
much in the past and it’s no longer flat? Anyway, do y’all put a light coating 
of RTV on both sides of the gasket when installing? Or should they be dry? I 
read online folks recommend a light coating but thought I would get the 
consensus here for when I order a new gasket and pull the pan again.
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Re: [MBZ] Car does not go into gear, 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My buddy got that GL for $500 says the rear has water damage, he''ll 
provide more details later.  Maybe got the SAM or something, I'll find 
out.  In any case he is excited about it.  Hard to go wrong for $500


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Re: [MBZ] Car does not go into gear, 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There is actually a fair amount of room in the last row, I wouldn't fit 
but kids and smaller folks could do OK.  I keep it folded down for more 
cargo space but even with them up there is a fair amount of space to 
haul stuff.  It's a X164 chassis, is basically all the same bits as a 
W164 ML but larger.


This one is like 20min from my buddy's shop, he can probably get it 
towed there and deal with it.  Figures his mother would like it and 
given he knows how to work on them for $1k or less it's kind of a no-brainer


-_FT

On 7/21/24 2:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd knows better than I, but I believe it’s longer so it can offer third row 
seating. The ML (W164) never had it, but the earlier W163 did have an option 
for it. That said, like a lot of optional third row seating, it was pretty 
worthless unless you were using it for kids.

-D


On Jul 21, 2024, at 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
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Remind me what is the difference between GL and ml class?

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 1:12 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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I need to get my shop built and start buying these things and fixing
conductor plates and flipping them. This one has highish miles at 215k
but looks pretty good.

Too many issues for us to keep getting fixed.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/466316032966118

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Re: [MBZ] Car does not go into gear, 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

GL is much larger

My buddy lives right close and is on his way to look at it.  He works at 
my other buddy's shop repairing these things every day so that is 
probably like a 3hr job for him to get it sorted, $350 for a good refurb 
CP he can clone and another $200 for fluid/filter and it's ready to roll.


--FT

On 7/21/24 2:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


Remind me what is the difference between GL and ml class?


On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 1:12 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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I need to get my shop built and start buying these things and fixing
conductor plates and flipping them. This one has highish miles at
215k
but looks pretty good.

Too many issues for us to keep getting fixed.

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Re: [MBZ] Project car or crusher snack?

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Downside is it's in Canada so fetching it might be a bit of a challenge. 
But hell I would buy that thing cheap, get it running (how hard could 
that be, those things are dead simple, if not drop in a SBC and call it 
a day), get some meskin upholstery, and just enjoy it for a big old 50s boat


--FT

On 7/21/24 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Someone, somewhere, has a dream to own and drive this vehicle, just as soon
as their inheritance comes, along with the winning lottery ticket, and the
divorce is final. Until then, "get off my lawn"..
It is not on my personal "dream car list"..

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:07 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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But after all is said, done, and spent, what will this not particularly
collectibles Cadillac be worth?

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 11:34 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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Solid restoration candidate for someone with very deep pockets. The
comment about $12k for rechroming is pretty much spot-on.

-D


On Jul 21, 2024, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-cadillac-series-sixty-special/?
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[MBZ] PARTS ONLY 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 600 Roadster 2D, $1

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A NJ plate and a cut off power cable in the front seat don't bode well

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[MBZ] Somebody came to buy and I let them test drive and they pushed it too hard now it won’t start.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 $5500 for a basket case?


Needs a new motor. No longer runs. Needed work but Was running and driving.


 2013 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 550 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D

$5,500
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[MBZ] Car does not go into gear, 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I need to get my shop built and start buying these things and fixing 
conductor plates and flipping them. This one has highish miles at 215k 
but looks pretty good.


Too many issues for us to keep getting fixed.

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Re: [MBZ] '08 ML550

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

rear wiper looks to have ED.  Run it and see if it works, it might just 
need to be moved on the splined shaft.  If the rear hatch was damaged 
and replaced or  painted maybe the badging was not replaced, badge 
delete is an option from new too.  I'd definitely get more detail on any 
damage if the seller knows anything, but if it looks OK might not be 
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On 7/19/24 9:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

451400091_494558106304634_3982411127182010827_n.jpg
2008 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 550 Sport Utility 4D 


facebook.com 



Knowing that the Carfax reported minor damage, does anyone get nervous 
when they see a sagging rear wiper in a lack of badging? Or am I being 
a goofball?


I will probably go scan this today and look at the color in person.

AZBob
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On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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Yes, your scanner will work just fine. Use the same procedure to 
fire it up as you did with your W163 and you’ll get the same results.


-D

On Jul 18, 2024, at 8:43 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Seller finally responded.
carfax reports minor damage in 2014 but it doesn’t show what area of 
the vehicle was effected. Otherwise it was purchased new in Beverly 
Hills and serviced there regularly until 2013, 55k miles, sold to 
someone in Bakersfield and was regularly serviced there until seller 
buying it in June (seller is a guy trying to be a small, independent 
dealer).
He said he’d bring it over to my side of town so I can see it. I 
just might take him up on it…unless the CarFax should make me nervous.


Also, could I scan it with this scanner I use on the W163?

AZBob

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On Jul 18, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


It’s a pump, a valve, a reservoir tank, and 2 struts in front and 
2 bags in back. There’s a controller somewhere. The bags are 
relatively inexpensive, the struts more. The valve snd pump are 
cheap. Nothing particularly difficult to swap. I’m not sure why 
people get all bent about airmatic given the benefits esp in an 
SUV.  If you’re buying an expensive German vehicle thrr we n don’t 
be a cheapass about its primary features. Get a DAS system you can 
scan diagnose and test the system and you’re halfway there.


--FT
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Floyd has some insight into the pneumatic suspension, but I don’t 
think it’s problematic based on what I’ve heard/read. I believe 
it’s a system similar to what’s on the W220/211, but not sure as 
I’ve never owned a car with it. If so, these are pretty simple, 
the struts can be expensive to replace if they leak, which I don’t 
think is a common issue.


Good catch - I didn’t notice the debadging. You can buy the 
badging from MB all ready to stick on the car, if it’s still 
available.


-D

On Jul 18, 2024, at 10:21 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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How problematic is the pneumatic suspension? Also, I wonder why 
the badging is removed? Do people think it makes it somehow look 
better?


AZBob

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On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Bob,

It’s not so much the ML550, but the W164. It’s a major 
improvement over the W163s, far more car-like while still 
retaining a lot of the truck qualities that made the W163 useful.


I’m not sure the smaller displacement W164s do much better 
economy-wise, so having the ML550 does provide some advantages 
when it comes to power and towing. Amazingly, my ML550 got 
better mileage while towing a UHaul car carrier with the CL600 
on it than running empty. Go figure!


I love mine, despite the crappy mileage. If I’m just tooling 
around town I’ll be lucky to hit 16 mpg, but on the highway, 
depending on load, I’ll easily hit the mid and upper teens. I 
don’t drive that much anyway, so the difference doesn’t really 
matter a whole lot to me. It’s a far more comfortable ride, I 
think, far less truck-like than the W163, and has more creature 
comforts, too.


Mine is approaching 200k without any real issues to speak of. I 
bought it with 175k on the clock two years ago for $6500, so the 
one you’ve posted isn’t far off based on price and mileage. 
Provenance is important on these, and while there’s no major 
issues with the W164s that I know of, good maintenance is always 
important. This one is really loaded up, with pneumatic 
suspension, Parktronic (which is pretty rare on these) as well 
as the rear seat entertainment system (DVD player.)


Nice example. I would definitely consider this one if I was 
looking for another W164.


-D

On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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Low miles. In spite of it being straight up realtor spec, I 
wonder what comparable ones have been going for?

[MBZ] It runs. Mercedes bends 1999,$1,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

E something, doesn't look too bad.  No details

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Re: [MBZ] 2022 Cadillac Escalade DIESEL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That thing was probably way over $100k new and looks like it sold for 
$77k (or that is the current bid) with 19kmi.  Depreciating like a Benz!


--FT

On 7/17/24 10:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

wtf.

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[MBZ] OT speaking of trains Massive Vintage Lionel O Gauge Train Collection,$3,800 ·

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Re: [MBZ] Amazing Mercedes Wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could be a good hauler and beater, the wagons are very useful.  Price is 
not crazy if it all works


--FT

On 7/16/24 12:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

This is in stock
Notoriously reliable drivetrain
Freezing AC

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Re: [MBZ] I will not respond to texts - 2005 Chrysler Crossfire - $9, 600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those things are basically SLKs with cheaper components

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On 7/16/24 12:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I have never liked the look of the Crossfire. It might be the wheels. 
They look too big and I guess they are aluminum, but from a distance 
they look like they are white.
A fellow who works in my building (I wish I owned the building, but 
alas, NO) has one and likes it. His car is black, and not the 
convertible.


Randy

On 16/07/2024 10:49 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Might be in nice shape, but price seems beyond realistic. Very low 
miles if not a typo (probalby 89k is my guess).


https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2005-chrysler-crossfire/7766641731.html 


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Re: [MBZ] Red Pig time! -- 1967 Mercedes-Benz s-class 200D,$2,000

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yes I did notice some rust in there, but that's why I have a welder!  
Some tube or channel stock and yer good ta go!


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On 7/16/24 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

That’s about as basic as you can get in a W110. Rockers look questionable - 
look at the bottom door edge of the driver’s door in the first picture.

-D


On Jul 16, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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Looks solid, could be a good transplant candidate

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1254692582575612/

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[MBZ] looks decent -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $2, 500

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/793427255953905

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[MBZ] Car does not currently start. Having it looked at. 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D, $2, 000

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Pano roof, looks clean

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1150903499355065

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[MBZ] Red Pig time! -- 1967 Mercedes-Benz s-class 200D,$2,000

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Looks solid, could be a good transplant candidate

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1254692582575612/

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[MBZ] NO I don't know millage 1967 Mercedes-Benz s-class,$500

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Rat rod time!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1598654627582328

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Re: [MBZ] Selling due to transmission slipping but drives. 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 600 Roadster 2D, $10, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This would work well plus could serve as a parts washing bin

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1890129511452305

Just prop one end up a bit to get some slope for drainage, run a bead of 
silicone to divert fluid into the sink and drain


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On 7/15/24 4:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have seen them pop up for sale from time to time but never snagged one. Last 
time I saw one it sold almost as soon as it was posted.

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On Jul 15, 2024, at 3:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What, you don’t have one?

And yes, you’re right - that thing they use to put the body’s head on would be 
perfect for the tailshaft housing to rest on.

-D


On Jul 15, 2024, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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An embalming table would be perfect for this.


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[MBZ] can not be drove away 1987 Mercedes 300 td wagon Diesel, $1, 500

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Extra 1 or 0 in price or both

Ran and drove when parked about 5 years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1921842068258607

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[MBZ] mmmm tasty -- gray market car imported from Europe. 1983 Mercedes-Benz 280ce, $12, 000

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1626871454819063

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[MBZ] oooooh the luscious factor is off the scale -- 1969 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 6.3L Right Hand Drive, $35, 000

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Vinyl roof?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/452732741078715/

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Re: [MBZ] Selling due to transmission slipping but drives. 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 600 Roadster 2D, $10, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I watched a couple of vids about rebuilding 722.6s and 722.9s.  They are 
actually quite easy to rebuild, you just have to keep track of the bits 
and keep everything really clean.  Stuff just comes apart like a 3D 
puzzle and the vids show it very clearly.  I think there are manuals for 
it too, I might have downloaded one.  The rebuild kits are like $300, 
just some clutches and such.  On 722.9s the pump can go bad and you need 
a new front housing of the unit that the pump works in but a junkyard 
unit would probably be OK.


The hard part is getting it out of the car without pulling the engine, I 
don't know how hard that would be in a R230 but it is probably pretty 
tight to get at all the bolts.  A lift and trans jack would help a lot.


--FT

On 7/15/24 4:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I would bet that a new/rebuilt transmission would cost a lot more than 
"2-3 grand".


On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


This tempts... I believe this is a 722.6 which should be pretty
stout so
not sure what the problem could be unless it was run low on fluid and
abused which is entirely possible. Rebuilds are not difficult once
it is
out of the car. Looks like a lot of work on it. This engine is
actually
pretty reliable too. My rational brain says RUN AWAY but my
passions
say... laws hep me!

Twin Turbo 12 cylinder. Renntech Modified, can be returned to
stock with
device. Absolute thrill of a car. Many services done including ABC
struts, motor mounts, convertible roof, etc. I purchased recently
from a
coworker and the transmission started slipping. Runs and drives
but most
likely will need replacement down the road unless it is a
transmission
solenoid/conductor plate or sensor issue. I have performed a fluid
change and filter replacement but did not help. I don’t have the
funds
at the minute to dish out a 2-3 thousand for a transmission
rebuild/replacement. May slightly negotiate in person. If you ask
me “is
it available” I will ignore you. If it’s up, it is available. No
trades.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8164972506902741

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[MBZ] Have small issues but will start and run 2009 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but you couldn't go anywhere because it is slammed (small issue), and 
why were you getting at the battery compartment (small issue)? And the 
airbag light...


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/504527885479500


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[MBZ] Car has been in storage for 5 years 2003 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 55 AMG Coupe 2D, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This would likely be great fun but after sitting might need a lot of 
going-through.  Price still not to bad for a 55 though NA.  Cash would 
probably talk strongly in negotiations.


Rare 2003 Mercedes clk55 AMG only 761 of these cars were built in 2003. 
5.4 l naturally aspirated. 5 speed automatic. Car has been in storage 
for 5 years after it developed a radiator leak. I have a brand new 
radiator just never put it in. I was hoping to keep the car but have 
developed health issues & decided to sell it.4,500 Firm


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[MBZ] 164 with hitch, looks decent, good price -- 2009 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 550 Sport Utility 4D, $3, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Seats might be trashed, I have a good complete interior same color

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/339206202566678

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[MBZ] Will run and drive on jump start, battery low from sitting. 2006 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 55 AMG Coupe 4D, $10, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Why is it sitting?  Why has it not been started/driven to charge up the 
battery?  For $10k why don't you get a new battery or a charger?  Are 
you a complete FBMP moron?


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[MBZ] I think this was posted before but appears not to have sold -- 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300 ce Coupe 2D, $2, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks pretty nice and the price for a 124 coupé is quite good.  
White/gray kinda bland but looks to be in good condition.  The grill 
looks to be chinee ebay thing and is horrific but easily rectifiable.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7620781314710457

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[MBZ] Selling due to transmission slipping but drives. 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 600 Roadster 2D, $10, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This tempts... I believe this is a 722.6 which should be pretty stout so 
not sure what the problem could be unless it was run low on fluid and 
abused which is entirely possible. Rebuilds are not difficult once it is 
out of the car. Looks like a lot of work on it. This engine is actually 
pretty reliable too. My rational brain says RUN AWAY but my passions 
say... laws hep me!


Twin Turbo 12 cylinder. Renntech Modified, can be returned to stock with 
device. Absolute thrill of a car. Many services done including ABC 
struts, motor mounts, convertible roof, etc. I purchased recently from a 
coworker and the transmission started slipping. Runs and drives but most 
likely will need replacement down the road unless it is a transmission 
solenoid/conductor plate or sensor issue. I have performed a fluid 
change and filter replacement but did not help. I don’t have the funds 
at the minute to dish out a 2-3 thousand for a transmission 
rebuild/replacement. May slightly negotiate in person. If you ask me “is 
it available” I will ignore you. If it’s up, it is available. No trades.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8164972506902741

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[MBZ] My name is Briggs and I’m selling my sisters car for her. 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 350 Sport Utility 4D,$2,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If the engine is not trashed at 186kmi it is probably OK.  Looks pretty 
decent and for the money might be worth it.  No hitch.  I have no idea 
what the software update thing is, maybe the navi system?


The only two things wrong are the AC doesn’t blow cold & radio needs 
software update. We live in a county that doesn’t require emissions, so 
we haven’t ever tried. Besides that, it runs perfectly fine and drives 
smooth.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/838939001120995

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Re: [MBZ] Rough as a Cob but Cheap

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You could flip that in Hippie Havens for some good profit once cleaned 
up a bit and running, or sell it on the FB groups where idiots have the 
vapors over these things


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On 7/15/24 2:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/share/QtWNSG76dzZxkwwf/

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[MBZ] looks complete and decent -- 1963 Mercedes-Benz 220s,$3,000

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Steering wheel intact, red upholstery is cool

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3668210170060319

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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal

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xhaust Temperature Sensor

 *

    Particulate Matter (PM) Sensor

 *

    Lambda Sensor (Emission Modification Categories 1-5 ONLY)

 *

    NOx Sensors

 *

    Fuel Injectors

 *

    Air Intake Throttle

 *

    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve

 *

    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Duct

 *

    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Cooler (including bypass control)

 *

    Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Temperature Sensor

 *

    Intake Manifold/Charge Air Distributor

 *

    Turbocharger (including VGT Actuator)

 *

    Engine Control Unit (ECU) Hardware (where replaced as part of the
   Approved Emission Modification)

 *

    Transmission Control Unit (TCU) Hardware (where replaced as part
   of the Approved Emission

   Modification)

 *

    Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) Hardware (where replaced as part of
   the Approved Emission

   Modification)

 *

    Onboard Diagnostic (OBD) System*

 *

    Cylinder Head Assembly Components (camshafts, valves, springs,
   valve spring keepers, valve seats,

   cam bearing caps, and manifold studs)

 *

    Engine Timing Chain

 *

    Intake Manifold Pressure Sensor

 *

    Instrument Cluster Hardware (where replaced as part of the
   Approved Emission Modification)

 *

    Coolant Thermostat (where replaced as part of the Approved
   Emission Modification)

 *

    and Crankcase ventilation valve (including line and heating element)

   *The Extended Modification Warranty will cover the cost of any OBD
   Diagnostic Scan for malfunctions that trigger the MIL, regardless of
   whether the malfunction is attributable to a part that is covered
   under the Extended Modification Warranty, as well as the cost of
   troubleshooting to determine the reason for the malfunction, but
   only if the malfunction is determined to be attributable to a part
   that is covered under the Extended Modification Warranty.

Additional Extended Warranty Periods for Certain Emission-Related 
Components


As indicated in the table below, some emission-related components have 
an additional extended warranty period. The additional extended warranty 
is added to the applicable Extended Modification Warranty period above.


EMC 10, & EMC 11

6 months and 6,000 miles
6 months and 6,000 miles

6 months and 6,000 miles

-

-

-

6 months and 6,000 miles

-

6 months and 6,000 miles
6 months and 6,000 miles

(Part not applicable) 12 months and 12,000 miles

- - - -

-

- - - - -

- - - -

- -

-

#

Part EMC 1 & EMC 2 EMC 9

1

DOC 6 months and 6,000 miles 6 months and 6,000 miles

2

DPF 6 months and 6,000 miles 6 months and 6,000 miles

3

SCR catalyst 12 months and 12,000 miles 6 months and 6,000 miles

4

DEF injector - -

5

DEF injector controller - -

6

DEF supply module - -

7

DEF pump 6 months and 6,000 miles 6 months and 6,000 miles

8

DEF temperature sensor - -

9

Exhaust temperature
sensor 12 months and 12,000 miles 6 months and 6,000 miles

10

PM sensor (Part not applicable) 6 months and 6,000 miles

11

Lambda sensor 12 months and 12,000 miles (Part not applicable)

12

12 months and 12,000 NOx Sensors 24 months and 24,000 miles miles

13

Fuel injectors 6 months and 6,000 miles -

14

Air intake throttle - 6 months and 6,000 miles

15

EGR valve 6 months and 6,000 miles -

16

EGR duct 6 months and 6,000 miles -

17

EGR cooler (incl. bypass
control) 6 months and 6,000 miles -

18

Intake manifold/charge air
distributor 6 months and 6,000 miles -

19

EGR temperature sensor 6 months and 6,000 miles -

20

Turbocharger - -

21

Engine control unit - -

22

Transmission control unit - -

23

Hydraulic control unit
(EHS) - -

24

OBD system - -

25

Cylinder Head assembly - -

26

Timing chain - -

27

Intake manifold pressure
sensor - -

28

Instrument cluster - -

29

Coolant thermostat, where
replaced as part of AEM - -




On 7/13/24 11:58 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Even if it’s not covered under warranty it’s easy to clean out. Remove it from 
the car. Spray a couple of cans of engine degreaser down it and let it sit for 
an hour. Flush with water. Next seal up the openings on one end and turn it up 
end to end best you can. Fill it up with a solution of 1:4 muriatic acid and 
water. Let sit for an hour. Flush with water and should be good to go.

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On Jul 13, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

No, DPF clogged up.

I messaged the guy, he got right back to me, I'm taking a little road trip 
tomorrow...

--FT


On 7/13/24 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Black death?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 10:19 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Looks nice for the miles and money if you’re looking for a diesel.

-D


On Jul 13, 2024, at 7:03 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Interesting. I should definitely go look at it. Could be a decent ride

for pretty cheap. Has a hitch too.

—FT

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Re: [MBZ] lust in my heart -- 2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4Matic Coupe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yep.  Still reasonable

-_FT

On 7/12/24 10:21 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

15K now

On Fri, Jul 12, 2024, 10:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Bid right now is fairly low, I wonder what this will go for


https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxPL6gmj/2015-mercedes-benz-s550-4matic-coupe?utm_source=pd_medium=email_campaign=n

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[MBZ] how much pain can one boy take? 2005 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hoovie just sold his to someone with a high capacity for pain (and 
pleasure too).


This CL65 is powered by an AMG-tuned 6.0-liter biturbo V12 which was 
hand assembled and signed by the builder. The car is factory rated at 
604 horsepower and 738 lb-ft of torque. Power is sent to the rear wheels 
through a five-speed AMG SpeedShift automatic transmission. The seller 
reports $18k in service performed since 2020 with accompanying service 
records viewable in the gallery.


https://thembmarket.com/2005-mercedes-benz-cl65-amg-5

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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No, DPF clogged up.

I messaged the guy, he got right back to me, I'm taking a little road 
trip tomorrow...


--FT

On 7/13/24 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Black death?

On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 10:19 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Looks nice for the miles and money if you’re looking for a diesel.

-D


On Jul 13, 2024, at 7:03 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Interesting. I should definitely go look at it. Could be a decent ride

for pretty cheap. Has a hitch too.

—FT

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yes a good deal. If I’m not mistaken the DPF should be under warranty

from the recall.

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On Jul 13, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829177899173539/

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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   I should get the VIN and check with MB to see if it is under this. 
   Maybe get it fixed for free!

--FT


   Per MBUSA: Eligibility


 Empty heading


 (1) What are the eligible vehicles that will receive an
 Emission Modification?

   This settlement pertains specifically to MY09 to MY16 BlueTEC II
   vehicles with OM642 and OM651 engines sold or leased in the US.


   How Do I Know if My Car Is Affected?

Seven affected models span the 2009-16 model years. All the cars in 
question have turbo-diesel engines — some offered as standard equipment, 
others as an optional engine — and almost all were marketed as Bluetec. 
Similarly, Bluetec-equipped Sprinter vans, sold under the Mercedes-Benz 
and Freightliner brands, are affected for the 2010-16 model years.


According to the EPA 
, 
affected models are:


 * *Sprinter: *2010-16 Sprinter six-cylinder, 2014-16 Sprinter
   four-cylinder
 * *E-Class:*2011-13 E350 Bluetec, 2014-16 E250 Bluetec
 * *GL-Class: *2009 GL320 Bluetec, 2010-16 GL350 Bluetec
 * *GLK-Class:*2013-15 GLK250 Bluetec
 * *M/GLE Class:*2009 ML320 Bluetec, 2010-14 ML350 Bluetec, 2015 ML250
   Bluetec, 2016 GLE300d
 * *R-Class:*2009 R320 Bluetec, 2010-12 R350 Bluetec
 * *S-Class:*2012-13 S350 Bluetec


   What Does the Repair Entail?

The repair comprises a software update and replacement of 
vehicle-specific hardware, such as sensors and catalysts. Daimler must 
also furnish an extended warranty to cover affected software and 
hardware, with tests performed annually for five years to ensure 
affected cars continue to meet emissions standards down the road.


Specific repairs vary, and in some cases aren’t even finalized. Twelve 
subgroups exist within the affected vehicle population, according to the 
EPA 
, 
with specific repairs for each group. All will receive a software update 
and new nitrogen oxide sensors, and any vehicles without a copper 
catalyst will get one, as well. Beyond that, specifics vary. As of this 
writing, the agency says it’s approved repairs for five of the 12 
groups, encompassing the 2013-15 GLK250 Bluetec, 2015 ML250 Bluetec, 
2016 GLE300d and six-cylinder 2010-16 Sprinter. Repairs for other groups 
are set for approval from now through 2021.



   Will the Repair Cost Anything?

No. Repairs should be free for owners. Under the terms of the 
settlement, Daimler will recall and repair vehicles at no cost to 
consumers, the Justice Department said.


On 7/13/24 10:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Looks nice for the miles and money if you’re looking for a diesel.

-D


On Jul 13, 2024, at 7:03 AM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Interesting. I should definitely go look at it. Could be a decent ride for 
pretty cheap. Has a hitch too.

—FT

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On Jul 13, 2024, at 9:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Yes a good deal. If I’m not mistaken the DPF should be under warranty from the 
recall.

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829177899173539/

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Re: [MBZ] uhoh -- 2001 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 600 Sedan 4D,$3,000

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Yeah just getting a high pressure hose made would be the best way to 
deal with it, get the fittings on each end and have at it.  I presume 
they could do a 3000psi line easy enough.  I'm thinking $2200 would be a 
reasonable deal on that car, the guy is probably done with it... he 
looks like a young guy, probably picked the thing up to look cool in, 
now it's got problems and he doesn't want to deal with them. Cut his 
losses...


--FT

On 7/12/24 6:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Those rear lines are really cheap - around $100 or so, but the labor to replace 
them will cost you several thousand due to the need to drop almost everything 
under the back of the car.

But you know that - and also to just measure the distance with a piece of scrap 
tubing and have one made up at your local industrial hose place, and run it 
directly, tied down with tiewraps.

-D


On Jul 12, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I can blow more of my retirement money!!!

currently has a small leak at the fuel pump, as well as one of the rear driver 
side ABC fluid lines

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1016588959879538

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[MBZ] uhoh -- 2001 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 600 Sedan 4D,$3,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I can blow more of my retirement money!!!

currently has a small leak at the fuel pump, as well as one of the rear 
driver side ABC fluid lines


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1016588959879538

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[MBZ] Bid only $2250 -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz S600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Surely this will be bid up more over the next 6 days

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/K1AV4Aad/2007-mercedes-benz-s600?utm_source=pd_medium=email_campaign=n

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[MBZ] More lust in my heart -- 2018 Mercedes-AMG GT R Coupe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have sinned...

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rMNmAdbL/2018-mercedes-amg-gt-r-coupe?utm_source=pd_medium=email_campaign=n

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[MBZ] lust in my heart -- 2015 Mercedes-Benz S550 4Matic Coupe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Bid right now is fairly low, I wonder what this will go for

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxPL6gmj/2015-mercedes-benz-s550-4matic-coupe?utm_source=pd_medium=email_campaign=n

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[MBZ] just has a shake at idle 2000 Mercedes-Benz clk-class V6, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have it listed for $2k and have a for sale sign in the window but not 
interested in selling. Doesn't look too bad but seems turdish


but checked and think it’s the exhaust, no working Cold A/C and might 
just need a recharge but haven’t checked it out yet, also Radio Doesn’t 
work And Sunroof. Besides that it’s an amazing point A to B car and only 
looking for trades. NOT interested in selling‼️


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1221771469187036

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[MBZ] purchased from an auction, 2009 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $1, 700

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could be a good quick deal for a cheap ride

Title Is Clean But Car Has To Be Inspected First to retrieve title I 
don’t mind going about the process .


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/784794433853358/

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[MBZ] Docent look too bad -- 1961 Mercedes-Benz 190b,$3,995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No interior pics, rust starting here and there

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1032073338923900

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Re: [MBZ] Must bring own battery if u want car for 1200 other than that I'm firm on price - 2004 E320 - 156k miles - $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That could be a very good deal if it checks out with no major issues

--FT

On 7/11/24 10:54 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Nice color, interior looks grungy but might clean up decently.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/covington-mercedes-benz-e320/7764998148.html


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[MBZ] Luscious colors, fender dents -- 1995 Mercedes-Benz s 500 coupe, $6, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I like this but I wonder if the wiring harness is degraded.  The recent 
wash might be hiding bad paint. Might be a $4k car


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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks like a good deal if it checks out

--FT

On 7/10/24 12:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Very nice conditions. Everything else feels good

https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/

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Re: [MBZ] Designo Espresso S600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

h yummy

--FT

On 7/10/24 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Drink cafe au lait  without fear of staining the seats.

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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yes, but you need a dipstick to measure the actual fluid level.  It's a 
generic thing, available for cheap on Amazon or ebay.  And to make sure 
we are talking about a 722.6 trans in a 163, correct?


--FT

On 7/10/24 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

So quantifying how much comes out should be how much you put back and then top 
off as needed, yes?
My graduated clear bucket has a leak, dear ‘Liza. Better get its replacement.

AZBob

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:

A full fill is like 9L

--FT
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On Jul 10, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail  
wrote:

That’s a 722.9 CP

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

$200 dealer part?

FCP Euro wants $950. Or is this something different?

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600



On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 18:35, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last
month.  Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part,
as far as I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is
the exact same part. I have used many of these and never had a problem.
I don’t use the filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.


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On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to no 
experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown on what 
to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of cruft, most 
likely, which after running a report to capture everything he should clear all 
codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if it doesn’t goof up. At 
that point call it an anomaly, hitting the shifter to the “manual” side, or 
heat, who knows? Or, if things really are going south or potentially borked, 
the scan he’ll do in a few days after clearing out the cruft will reveal what’s 
going on in the present.

I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that one 
costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re not 
planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like the one I 
recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in feature that allows you to email a 
copy of the scan results with codes and links to OBDII resources if it’s an 
OBDII code. I know Floyd had one that borked, but mine has held up just fine 
with limited use.

-D


On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:

This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But check the 
cable and connectors first before doing anything else.


--FT
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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before I 
order parts.

Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future?

AZBob

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability 
for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under 
the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if 
there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the 
transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on 
a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). 
Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if 
it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife 
is a fluid you can use.

—FT

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got 
in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like 
second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was 
taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the 
dash.
Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh.

Now what?

AZBob

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[MBZ] From the owners private collection- 1991 Mercedes-Benz 350sdl, $4, 995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] rearend is held in place with ratchet straps. Mercedes 180 ponton ragtop, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Extra 1 in price

It's rusty underneath and the mounting points for the rear-end are 
rusted away.


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Re: [MBZ] Everything was fine until I drove it like an idiot . -- 1997 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 320 SWB Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There were a couple on the FBMP feed this morning, looked pretty rough 
though


--FT

On 7/9/24 7:06 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

This begs the question, “What ever happened to all of the W140s, especially 
S500s?” I never see any come up for sale it seems like.

-D


On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

This is begging for bigger engine swap, car looks pretty nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/994651545782165

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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Interesting, I wonder if a cheap connector is the problem with this 
99ML320 I have had sitting around forever, I put a new CP in it along 
with connector and a newer TCM and it was still in limp mode even after 
clearing codes (I used my iCarsoft, which has worked on the $600 99E320 
when I did the same job on it, the fancy computer wanted to jump into 
HHTWIN and there was no 163 option on the list which was very weird).  I 
didn't think the connector might be the issue.  I should try a "good" 
one and see if that cures it.  It's an easy swap once you get it lined 
up right. And yeah that little bolt is like finger tight.


--FT

On 7/9/24 6:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Gotcha. I wondered, since the connector is the first line of defense when it 
comes to ATF wicking up the harness. They used to be pretty cheap atthe 
stealership, like $10-$12. I’m sure they’re more now, but still cheap 
insurance. I like the idea of doing it during a filter change.

-D


On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

I usually do it anytime I do a CP. might be overkill but usually do it when 
doing a filter change also.  OE yes. The cheap ones never seem to work right.

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’ve heard similar stories, good to know. Do you still replace the connector 
anyway using an OE part? I would if they’re still cheap. Or only if it’s been 
soaked in ATF?

I’ve done the connector, which isn’t hard, but you really have to be careful 
not to overtighten it.

-D


On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last month.  Once 
little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part, as far as I can tell 
and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is the exact same part. I have 
used many of these and never had a problem. I don’t use the filter, connector 
plug etc that comes in the kit though.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to no 
experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown on what 
to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of cruft, most 
likely, which after running a report to capture everything he should clear all 
codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if it doesn’t goof up. At 
that point call it an anomaly, hitting the shifter to the “manual” side, or 
heat, who knows? Or, if things really are going south or potentially borked, 
the scan he’ll do in a few days after clearing out the cruft will reveal what’s 
going on in the present.

I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that one 
costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re not 
planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like the one I 
recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in feature that allows you to email a 
copy of the scan results with codes and links to OBDII resources if it’s an 
OBDII code. I know Floyd had one that borked, but mine has held up just fine 
with limited use.

-D


On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:

This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But check the 
cable and connectors first before doing anything else.


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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before I 
order parts.

Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future?

AZBob

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability 
for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under 
the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if 
there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the 
transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on 
a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). 
Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if 
it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife 
is a fluid you can use.

—FT

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got 
in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like 
second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was 
taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the 
dash.
Drove home taking 

[MBZ] Everything was fine until I drove it like an idiot . -- 1997 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 320 SWB Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This is begging for bigger engine swap, car looks pretty nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/994651545782165

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[MBZ] This is a steal. 2003 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 55 AMG Roadster 2D, $8, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah and a world of bother to get it fixed plus about $1200 for good tires

Runs great top won't go up we'll need tires soon.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828357469263576/

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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

One the 163 I don't think it triggers a CEL, might be a 722.6 thing.  It 
does on a 164 though, but that is a 722.9


--FT

On 7/9/24 3:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

VW has this weird "shadow limp mode" where it goes into limp but doesn't 
trigger the check engine light.

Mostly on our (diesel) cars it happens when the fuel filter gets restrictive. I 
*think* I remember it happening once for the air filter but I'm not so sure...

Usually when it happens I can restart and have it run normally until the first 
time I give it the beans. At low power usage it's usually okay.

-Curt


On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 03:13:35 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes  wrote:





And, of course, I decided to hop in the ML and drive it up to the Walgreens to 
see if the issue is still an issue and I suppose you all know exactly what 
happened…..
It drives perfectly normal now.

When the scanner arrives I will see what I’m working with.

AZBob

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:


   I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before 
I order parts.

   



   Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future?

   



   AZBob



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Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife is a fluid you can use.


—FT

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got 
in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like 
second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was 
taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the 
dash.
Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh.

Now what?

AZBob

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[MBZ] This might clean up, suspension issues are not a big deal -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 550 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No title is an issue, looks like it was just abandoned, I wonder if it 
has a key.  Has a plate on it, could probably track down the owner 
unless it is TitleMax.  Would be interesting to hook up a battery and do 
a scan to see what it is most unhappy about.


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[MBZ] was used as a work vehicle until it got T-Bone 2003 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 350 Sport Utility 4D, $500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

please do not waste my time I'm selling this for my father it is rough

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[MBZ] ECU (control unit) needs to be changed. 2007 Grey Mercedes Benz ML 350 4Matic, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if the engine is kakked too

DEFINITELY A CAR FOR A PERSON THAT APPRECIATES MERCEDES AND HAVE SOME 
KNOWLEDGE ON CAR REPAIRS.


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[MBZ] E350, arab name, ad in espanol -- 2003 Mercedes-Benz cl-class CL 55 AMG Coupe 2D, $3, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And I don't think there was a 350 in 2003?

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[MBZ] body don’t have one dent on it , 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300 ce Coupe 2D,$1,600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be a good deal, 124 coupés go for some good money


car needs serpentine belt put back on lost key that’s it. All the 
glasses are good new rims and tires. A very, very nice classic. I just 
do not have time to repair it. Thank you.


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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Actually the TCM is a bit to the right of the steering wheel up under 
the dash, a flat box with a cable and wide flat connector


--FT

On 7/9/24 7:55 AM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability 
for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under 
the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if 
there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the 
transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on 
a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). 
Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if 
it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife 
is a fluid you can use.

—FT

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On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got 
in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like 
second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was 
taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the 
dash.
Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh.

Now what?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$17k! That is pretty much insane.  One hopes it might be in absolute 
perfect condition but I doubt it.  John might have decided to blow the 
kids' inheritances on this car, bucket list thing or something or was in 
some sort of state and not thinking clearly.  And was it sitting in the 
back yard the whole time? That is no bueno.


--FT

On 7/8/24 5:10 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Here is what the seller replied when I asked all the requisite questions:

“I have no information other than this. John, who died, bought the car 
for $17,000 just before he died. It was delivered to the house parked 
for at least 2 1/2 years but was started on occasion.  As far as I 
know, John never got to drive it.

 I have driven the car from the back yard to the front yard. “

Interesting….

AZBob

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On Jul 8, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:


I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with 
money in my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything 
outdoors (114 at this present moment, on its way to 118).


Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a 
vehicle unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?


I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to 
be grease oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say 
I've ever seen that before.


Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to 
something that is going to be more of a headache than having a 45 
year old car already is.


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Re: [MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

so here's the thing -- the estate has some person selling all the 
impedimenta, and clearly no one in family or whatever wants this thing. 
These estate people have no clue about the worth of cars, esp one that 
might have been sitting for years while the owner was incapacitated.  
Who knows what all it might need, even if starts and runs -- probably a 
complete going-through which is going to cost time and parts money if 
you want a reliable driver.


For example, a few years back a friend alerted me to a very similar deal 
(non-torbo 79 300CD) wherein the estate woman had listed it at like $3k 
or $5k, I don't recall but I think it might have been $5k. I told the 
sales woman the car was worth nowhere near the ask so she said go talk 
to the deceased's"boyfriend" who was participating in the sale.


The BF said he had never really driven the car so he really knew nothing 
much about it. It had been sitting for quite some time under a canopy. 
Car was in pretty good shape (white/black leather), it was the 
deceased's baby, and had been repainted at some point due to tree damage 
or something. I got it running and drove it down the street, the brakes 
were pretty bad as the calipers were not really calipering, the rotors 
were really rusty, etc.  The rubber under the hood was old too.  No AC 
belt, who knows what was up with that.  But it ran well on old diesel 
and shifted well so that part of it was solid.


We hemmed and hawed and jawed some, I pointed out the necessities, I was 
nice about it but realistic as I walked him through the car.  I offered 
him maybe $1000 (LOBALLER!!!), I don't recall exactly and we settled on 
$1300 which was a reasonable deal at the time.  BF was actually quite 
pleased that someone who knew the car was interested as it would sorta 
carry on the GF's love of it. So some emotional aspect to it as well.


So, you could deal with someone who is clueless but thinks it is worth 
$10k because s/he looked up sales prices on The Internet for sale prices 
of decent runners, or deal with the decision-maker if there is one 
around.  You might be lucky if it is some family member who just wants 
it wrapped up and get on with life.


I notice the "cold" air inlet tube is missing, not a big deal but 
indicative of the kind of stuff that will need to be dealt with.  Given 
coupé prices these days, and this one looks pretty nice, but recognizing 
it will need thorough going-through and $$$ to get it roadworthy and 
dependable, I'd offer $3k and be willing to bump that a bit because you 
would still have a pretty good upside on it if you decide to sell it 
after fixing it up, or just flip it.  Coupé-specific parts are getting 
hard to come by and aren't particularly cheap so think about that if 
e.g., the rear windows don't work.  They are cool cars though and fun to 
drive, obviously no speed demon but it's about a cool factor.


You should definitely check it out, would be fun to get it running and 
driving. AZ color too!  If you buy it see if there is any other stuff 
for the car sitting in the garage or a box somewhere, stuff gets tucked 
here and there.


Good luck!

--FT


On 7/8/24 4:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with money in 
my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything outdoors (114 at 
this present moment, on its way to 118).

Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a vehicle 
unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?

I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to be grease 
oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say I've ever seen that 
before.

Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to something that is 
going to be more of a headache than having a 45 year old car already is.

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[MBZ] ooooh this is pretty -- 1977 Mercedes-Benz SL 450 Roadster 2D, $9, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Light green

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Re: [MBZ] Has not been cranked in 20 years or so. 1975 Mercedes 450SL Convertible - two tops - $3, 000 (Rutledge)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah I saw another one for $3500 that was a runner, a little rough, but 
if you just wanted to have some top-down fun WTH


--FT

On 7/7/24 2:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

A decent running example is barely worth that. This would be a major league 
money pit just getting the fuel system sorted.

-D


On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

looks a little crusty but straight

It did run and drive when parked then.

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dash Cams

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

sure but you don't want it always on or it will drain your battery.  
Some of the ones I have use some sort of low-power mode and you can set 
them to record if someone gets close to the car but otherwise they seem 
to be dormant.  I think they have a small battery in them to provide 
some bit of power for some time.  They power up when the plugs get power 
when you turn on the car.


--FT

On 7/7/24 2:53 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I will be testing the waters of dash camism. I bought an inexpensive cam from 
the Big Girls and it came supplied with a cigarette lighter power cord.
Now can I lop that plug off and hard wire the cord utilizing fuse taps?

AZBob

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[MBZ] Has not been cranked in 20 years or so. 1975 Mercedes 450SL Convertible - two tops - $3, 000 (Rutledge)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

looks a little crusty but straight

It did run and drive when parked then.

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[MBZ] I will sell as a pair for $5500 or $3k each. 1991 350SD, 1990 300D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

crappy pics but they both look ok as best can be seen

Selling both my mercedes, both run and drive and will run forever if 
properly maintained. Both are automatic with the mechanical turbo diesel 
engines.


https://columbia.craigslist.org/pts/d/winnsboro-mercedes/7762104497.html

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[MBZ] To access the advertised pricing... 2016 Mercedes-Benz AMG GT, 33, 828 mi., , $68, 995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

BUY HERE PAY HERE  FINANCIAMOS A TODOS!!!  I wonder how many of 
their customers have 725 FICO scores and how much kickback they get from 
the lenders.


ONLINE TENT SALE PRICING! To access the advertised pricing, customers 
are required to finance the vehicle through one of the dealership's 
in-house lenders. Advertised prices are based on financing with a FICO 
score of 725 or higher and a positive car credit history.


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Re: [MBZ] A bargain at any price -- 2022 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG EQS - Available! - $91799.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think that about sums it up.  Pick any one digit to remove from the 
price and I might consider it just for grins for awhile.


--FT

On 7/7/24 2:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Two year old, very expensive, all electric Mercedes.
5,000 miles driven in 2 years.
That speaks volumes to me about just how satisfying it was to not own this
car. Is this one of the models that Mercedes decided they were not going to
make or support, due to low public interest and sales?
[it is not on my bucket list to own, drive, rent, or store while
collector value goes up.]

On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 10:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


*These things do look kinda cool, sorta CLSesque, very moderne.  I do
like me some black on black but it really needs a powerful V8 or V12
*

*Engine: *Dual AC Electric Motors


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[MBZ] A bargain at any price -- 2022 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG EQS - Available! - $91799.00

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

*These things do look kinda cool, sorta CLSesque, very moderne.  I do 
like me some black on black but it really needs a powerful V8 or V12

*

*Engine: *Dual AC Electric Motors

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[MBZ] Savage title - $5,500 (Columbia)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

2009 mercedes benz e350 
 


Realtor spec but looks nice, would need to check what made it savage

https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-savage-title/7763591871.html

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[MBZ] OT New business opportunity! 1959 BELL 47 Helicopter and 06 Hauler batman “batcopter”mobile helipad,$149,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

True One Of Kind! Can Be a Money Maker $ At Shows and Events.

** Selling as a Prop Only and FAA “out Of Service” . **

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[MBZ] if you’re not familiar with this vehicles please don’t waste my or your time. 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D,$10,900

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Price high but looks nice

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[MBZ] A bit of patina but otherwise doesn't look bad -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 55 AMG Sedan 4D, $7, 500

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Price a little high but not too crazy

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Re: [MBZ] I have a folder of receipts from the precious owner - 2001 ML55 AMG - $3, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If it ain't all rusty take 25 Bens and drive it home, that would be a 
decent deal.  55s are fun!


--FT

On 7/7/24 12:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Miles are high but sounds like it's been maintained. Looks like it's in pretty 
nice condition, has a tow hitch.

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Torbo

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That one looks pretty nice and coupé prices have gone up quite a bit. 
Would be worth starting negotiations at $5k if it runs and drives but 
expect to go up considerably more


--RT

On 7/7/24 11:55 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

What should this be negotiated down to?

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[MBZ] This car had a front end collission, 1999 Mercedes-Benz e 340, $1, 000

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It was driven home from the wreck. Front passanger tire is flat.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1379273486842730

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[MBZ] 193kmi -- 2015 Mercedes-Benz gl-class,$12,900

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Price is way too high for the miles but that chocolate brown interior on 
black does look tasty.  Rear badges are wonky too, I can't make out that 
right side, RennTech maybe?  Might be warmed up a bit.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2616329235221257

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Re: [MBZ] No starting electric problem diesel - 2007 GL320 CDI

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Knock $2k off and it could be worth messing with.  A scan might show 
what it is unhappy about.  Looks slammed too, maybe just from sitting.


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On 7/6/24 3:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Can't see a "no starting" car of that age being worth that ask unless it's a 
known simple issue.

Front bumper is loose on the driver's side, otherwise what is shown doesn't 
look too bad. Looks like it might have a tow hitch but hard to tell from the 
photos.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/harwood-heights-2007-mercedes-gl-320cdi/7763519642.html
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[MBZ] FIRM PRICE non negotiable. 350 SDL. 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300 sd Sedan 4D, $9, 500

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Bland colors but looks good

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/475148175165151

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[MBZ] 09S550 update

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I had ordered stuff to fix the $2500 09S550 -- headlight bulb, brake 
pads (break pats), AC blower, front axles, and a lower control arm (ball 
joint on one was shot).


Rear brake pads were fairly simple, I did have to remove the calipers 
but not a big deal, just required a bit of persuasion.  Rotors were 
good.  Front break pads were fine, looked nearly new.


Headlight bulb required removal of wheel and fender liner but then was 
easy to swap over.  I had the wheel off anyway to check the brakes.


The AC blower was pretty crapped up and somewhat corroded on the 
squirrel cage shafts so I cleaned all that up.  The diagnostic said the 
regulator was bad so I ordered another of those along with another fan.  
After putting all that in, still no joy, so I checked the 40A fan fuse, 
which tested OK for continuity.  I swapped another one in anyway, and 
presto! JOY was had as the fan started working.  I kept the new fan in 
but put the old regulator back in and kept the new one for a spare, was 
only like $35.  I kept the old fan, even with cleaning it all and lubing 
it well, it was still a little slow.


The axles were a real pain.  I made up the tool I shared to use with the 
slide hammer kit I borrowed from the auto parts store.  Finally worked. 
Putting in the new ones required a lot of finessing due to how much room 
there was along next to the LCA to slide the spline into the hub.  Not 
fun.  I also had a huge problem with the nut on the end of the air 
strut, there is a torx hole in the end to hold the bolt end of the 
fitting to keep the whole thing from turning, and of course that 
stripped out.  Took forever to get it sorted, had to order new bolts 
(which were the wrong size), a tap and die set (14mx1.50 should you 
care) to chase the bolt and nut.  Lots of torching etc to get it all 
loosened up and on and off.  I finally got it all back together.  The 
new LCA fit in pretty easily.


Did a quick shakedown drive and all seemed great, axles were good, no 
rattles or looseness.  I did have no ABS/ESP due to wheel speed sensor 
fault and an airmatic fault for RF wheel.  I had a wheel speed sensor so 
put that in right quick.  Both sensors plug into a socket together, I 
messed with them some but still had the fault.  Not sure what that is 
about, seems like some sort of connectivity issue but I couldn't see 
anything.  I could drive the car but no cruise control, and the airmatic 
seemed fine.


Next day I drove it to Missisippi, about 500mi the first day, then the 
rest of the distance the second day.  I made a stop in Augusta to pick 
up 3 wheels, I found 2 others wider for rear, so now I have a staggered 
set plus a spare.  Nice AMG design wheels. I hope they fit the rear 
without rubbing on the fenders.  I was a bit concerned about the 
difference in circumference of front/back due to tire sizes to fit the 
different width rims and how it might affect the 4matic but reading up 
on it it seems like it should be OK.  Not going to put them on any time 
soon anyway but they do look nice. The tires that came with the car are 
only like 1.5yo now, good BFGs.


Had no cruise control which was a bit of a pain, watching my speed 
constantly because 90 felt like sitting in an easy chair and it was easy 
to creep up on that if not paying attention.  Traffic was moving 80-85 
most of the way so I kinda just went with the flow.  (I did have a 
couple of ohshit moments when I passed a cop hiding in the median)  AC 
BLEW ICE COLD which was good because it was 90s-100F most of the time.  
No issues whatsoever with the car other than those sensor problems.


I got like 21-24+mpg running at 80+/- the whole way plus some other 
highway driving 60-70.  That is pretty damn good for a big car with a 
big engine.


Miles. Gal. MPG
458.9 19.2 23.9
312.2 15.1 20.7
170.3 8.1 21.0
129.3 6.1 21.2
233.1 10.4 22.4
342.0 14.0 24.4
192.7 9.3 20.7

Roads in MS were really good, AL almost as good, GA OK, SC sux big time. 
You would think "poorer" states would be worse but I was really surprised.


So anyway that was 1800mi or so of driving, the car was amazing.  I am 
totally in love with it.  Big, fast, comfortable, quiet, everything you 
want a Sonder-Klasse to be.  Huge amount of trunk space, huge back seat 
space.  And the black/black W221 looks amazing too, lots of "presence."  
I am tall so have my seat all the way back so I can stretch my legs out, 
there is still ample room in the back I could probably fit behind driver 
seat.  AC kept temps 70-72F the whole time, and cooled down fast. Engine 
temp never went above like 85-90C even when sitting with AC running. 
Sound system is great (I had to get some adapters to plug my iFōn into 
the DVD sound jacks but it works). And for maybe $3200 all in now with 
the parts and acquisition cost it is an amazing deal.


So, the story of the cheap S550...

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Re: [MBZ] I am so underwater on this thing, save me!!! Mercedes S 400 hybrid, $6, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

They are probably at end of life and people are trying to unload them 
before they become total bricks


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On 7/5/24 5:41 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder why these seem to be surfacing so much of late? Or were we not paying 
attention?

-D


On Jul 5, 2024, at 2:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

The price is Firm! I don’t answer to it’s available!!! For sale: 2010 Mercedes 
S400 Hybrid. Used condition, black exterior with minor scratches, leather 
interior 154,000 miles, 3.5L V6 engine, hybrid technology, requires minor 
mechanical work for the ac, sunroof, navigation system, premium sound system, 
heated and ventilation in seats, Massage in seats. clean title. Engine and 
transmission at . Need ac repair and a sped sensor

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1129008328332546

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[MBZ] OT Hey y'all ho mah beer n watchiss

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 A good neighbor's bad decision. Summerville man dies after placing
 firework atop his head.

James Paul and Jennifer Bent jp...@postandcourier.com; 
jb...@postandcourier.com

10–12 minutes


SUMMERVILLE — Wearing an Uncle Sam star-spangled suit and a top hat to 
match, Allen Ray McGrew danced around in the front yard as he smoked a 
cigarette on July 4th — his favorite holiday of the year. A line of 
smoldering firework mortars lined the edge of the street behind him.


Hours later, a firework exploded on top of his head, killing him instantly.

Dorchester County sheriff's deputies found the 41-year-old HVAC worker 
lying dead in the road after rushing to the 100 block of Cottonwood 
Drive, where an Independence Day Block party had come to an abrupt end 
around 10:30 p.m.



Paige McGrew told deputies that her husband had placed the large 
firework on his head to "show off" after drinking for several hours, 
according to an incident report.


“He was holding this firework over his top hat,” Paige later told The 
Post and Courier. “I thought he was just showboating before he set it on 
the ground. I didn’t realize he had already lit it.”


His wife was telling McGrew to stop when the firework suddenly erupted 
and he collapsed, the report stated.


Coroner Paul Brouthers said the exploding device caused massive head 
injuries that would have killed McGrew immediately. He was officially 
pronounced dead at the scene at 11:10 p.m.


In her Crestwood subdivision living room on July 5, Paige McGrew sat 
surrounded by her dogs, her son Hunter and Hunter’s fiancée, laughing 
and crying over her late husband’s antics. Paige said Allen worked hard, 
played hard and ultimately died doing what he loved. His death came less 
than a month before his 42nd birthday.


“Allen loved this holiday," she said. "He was a patriot; he was proud of 
his son and he was excited to have a new daughter-in-law. He was living 
his best life last night.


Allen had been looking forward to adding a daughter to the family and to 
celebrating his son’s engagement. Getting fully into the holiday spirit, 
McGrew had gone all out, Paige said, recalling how he slid into her 
office like a showman, wearing his brand-new Uncle Sam costume — 
overalls with red and white striped bottoms with a blue field and white 
stars up top, along with a fake white goat strapped beneath his chin and 
the top hat. He also wore a T-shirt with a patriotic red, white and blue 
design.


“I was on the phone with a client and I just lost it, I was laughing so 
hard. I had to tell her what was going on. The client said, ‘Oh, I have 
to see this,’ so Allen came around in front of the camera to show off 
his costume,” Paige recalled. “That was Allen. He was a genuine, good 
person and he loved life. He worked hard and he played hard.”


She showed The Post and Courier a video of her late husband dancing a 
jig in his red-white-and-blue outfit on the front lawn. Neighbors up and 
down the street gathered to enjoy McGrew’s delight in the hours before 
the tragedy fell.


According to Paige, Allen told his son on the night of the incident that 
this Independence Day celebration would be their official father-son 
blowout to celebrate Hunter’s wedding day and his engagement. Then he 
planned to stop drinking for a while.


“Alan was not a drinker,” said Paige. “Everyone was drinking a little 
last night, but he didn’t drink regularly.”


In Dorchester County, fireworks are permitted on July 4 from 10 a.m. to 
1 a.m. on July 5, according to local ordinance. Dorchester County 
Sheriff's Lt. Chaz Easterlin said the firework involved in McGrew's 
death was legal.


The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission in 2023 received eight 
reports of fireworks related death and 9,700 injuries. Out of the eight 
deaths, five were associated with firework misuse, two with a device 
malfunction and one with unknown circumstances, according to the commission.


Those around Allen McGrew described him as a kind father and generous 
neighbor who was always willing to lend a hand.


A man who lives across the street, and who wished to remain anonymous, 
said July 3 was the first time this year he’s mowed his lawn because 
McGrew would just come over and cut it every time he trimmed his own grass.


Paige said he actually cut the grass for about five neighbors.

“He was the nicest guy. He was the kind of guy you want for a neighbor,” 
said the neighbor, an Army military intelligence veteran, who came out 
early July 5th to clean up signs of the accident left in the asphalt.


“He didn’t suffer; it was quick.”

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