Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
Classic Performance Auto 1012 Trinity Road Raleigh, NC 27607 (919) 233-5381 They work on just about everything, but they specialize in Mercedes from 1960+. All four of the mechanics have a combined 140 years of experience working on German cars. We have used them for over a decade and couldn't be happier with the service. Tarek -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim Crone Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:03 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector Who is this indy? Would you trust him with an older model? I assume you mean local to Cary, not China. :) Thanks, Tim On Feb 21, 2013 10:52 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Our local indy has the scanner/computer at his shop, so it was never a problem to pull codes. Though I've heard of people successfully pulling codes from homemade readers, they are usually just about as helpful as an OBDII code: enough to point you in the right direction, but far from specifically diagnosing the problem. Also, there are supposedly different 'banks' of codes, so to speak, held in different control modules and the homemade readers can only read one 'bank' (module). For detailed information/codes regarding modules other than the diagnostic module, the proper scanner and diagnostic connector is required. I would be cautious using any kind of homemade reader, or any other 'cheap' reader for that matter, as all of the car's control modules are right there connected to the CAN bus. One plug in of a faulty scanner may be all it takes to zap all of the control modules ($$$ to replace at $1,500+ a piece from the dealership). There is a great website that I like to visit now and again by an S500 coupe enthusiast who goes by his (what I assume to be) Ham Radio handle of K6JRF. The website can be found here: http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_S500.html He has a lot of great articles regarding engine maintenance, diagnostic test procedures, repair articles, etc. on the C140. It's a great start for someone who is new to the C140, but it's nowhere close to being a sufficient replacement for WIS. He's even got the DTC codes you seek, in addition to instructions on how to make your own scanner. Hope this helps and please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Regards, Tarek -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector How did you pull codes? Did you use one of the LED setups I see people making? Also, does anyone know of a source that lists all of the DST codes? I see bits and pieces around the Web, but there doesn't seem to be a concise list anywhere that I have found. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, you're right; I can't say I've done any serious digging/disassembly under the driver's side footwell, but anytime I've pulled codes it's always been through the diagnostic port under the hood on that car. If there is one, it's got to be buried in there, because it's definitely not mounted out in the open where it should be. Your C140 was manufactured in March, IIRC, so maybe it missed the OBDII. How are things going with it otherwise? If you have any questions, feel free to ask; hopefully I can be of some help. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I haven't looked - did you ever look for one? I ask because there were some late 95 models that did get them. I'll poke my head down there tonight after I get home and see. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:48 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Correction, no OBDII port on your C140. :-) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I would take exception to that. Any 1996 and later car sold in the US had to have ODBII. I just looked at a 96 S600 that was at the local dealer yesterday and it had the connector right by the parking brake pedal. And they wanted an exorbitant amount of money for the car, too. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:13 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dan, No OBDII connector on the C140. Only the diagnostic port under the hood in the control module box near the passenger firewall. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ
Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
Dan, No OBDII connector on the C140. Only the diagnostic port under the hood in the control module box near the passenger firewall. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector My car was built right at the transition to OBDII, so I need to look under the dash and see if there is a connector. I'll be under it this weekend, so I will try to remember to look then. Dan On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:09 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, just SDS will work, Xentry is kinda overkill. If you buy an eBay multiplexer, buy one with two round connectors on the brick; they may be 3rd shift versions from the same factory that makes/made the original ones. Avoid the ones that have a RS-232 on the MUX directly. You will also want a ThinkPad T30... Although you can use a Baum CS2000/iScan D90 for some of the more mundane stuff... BTW, my E300's have both the OBDII and the OBD connector, and if I am not mistaken, when you have both, you should use the 38 pin round connector. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 20, 2013, at 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You have to have the full blown Xentry system to do anything on that car. On 2/15/2013 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year prior to the adoption of ODBII. I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on the reader when I connect it to the car. For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has ever used one of these. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6099 - Release Date: 02/12/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PS Fluid
Mobil1 ATF is what's in there now. Shouldn't need to be flushed though, the filter and flush was recently done. Hydraulic fluid for the rear suspension is not the proper fluid for power steering. Has the car developed a problem with the rear suspension? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PS Fluid I have a couple of liters of the SLS hydraulic fluid, but that's going into the SLS system when I flush it this weekend. Is that the same stuff? Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Call Rusty, order the Febi fluid made to MB spec. It probably will be cheaper than the M1. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Is Mobil1 ATF still acceptable for power steering fluid in my 140? I want to change it this weekend and I already have some in the garage I can use... Herr Doktor used to say ATF with v-belts and MB fluid with serp belts, but I don't think that was the exact cutoff, especially with early W201. Since yours was made in the 1990s, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to use the MB steering fluid. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
Correction, no OBDII port on your C140. :-) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I would take exception to that. Any 1996 and later car sold in the US had to have ODBII. I just looked at a 96 S600 that was at the local dealer yesterday and it had the connector right by the parking brake pedal. And they wanted an exorbitant amount of money for the car, too. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:13 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dan, No OBDII connector on the C140. Only the diagnostic port under the hood in the control module box near the passenger firewall. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector My car was built right at the transition to OBDII, so I need to look under the dash and see if there is a connector. I'll be under it this weekend, so I will try to remember to look then. Dan On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:09 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, just SDS will work, Xentry is kinda overkill. If you buy an eBay multiplexer, buy one with two round connectors on the brick; they may be 3rd shift versions from the same factory that makes/made the original ones. Avoid the ones that have a RS-232 on the MUX directly. You will also want a ThinkPad T30... Although you can use a Baum CS2000/iScan D90 for some of the more mundane stuff... BTW, my E300's have both the OBDII and the OBD connector, and if I am not mistaken, when you have both, you should use the 38 pin round connector. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 20, 2013, at 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You have to have the full blown Xentry system to do anything on that car. On 2/15/2013 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year prior to the adoption of ODBII. I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on the reader when I connect it to the car. For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has ever used one of these. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6099 - Release Date: 02/12/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
Well, you're right; I can't say I've done any serious digging/disassembly under the driver's side footwell, but anytime I've pulled codes it's always been through the diagnostic port under the hood on that car. If there is one, it's got to be buried in there, because it's definitely not mounted out in the open where it should be. Your C140 was manufactured in March, IIRC, so maybe it missed the OBDII. How are things going with it otherwise? If you have any questions, feel free to ask; hopefully I can be of some help. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I haven't looked - did you ever look for one? I ask because there were some late 95 models that did get them. I'll poke my head down there tonight after I get home and see. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:48 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Correction, no OBDII port on your C140. :-) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I would take exception to that. Any 1996 and later car sold in the US had to have ODBII. I just looked at a 96 S600 that was at the local dealer yesterday and it had the connector right by the parking brake pedal. And they wanted an exorbitant amount of money for the car, too. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:13 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dan, No OBDII connector on the C140. Only the diagnostic port under the hood in the control module box near the passenger firewall. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector My car was built right at the transition to OBDII, so I need to look under the dash and see if there is a connector. I'll be under it this weekend, so I will try to remember to look then. Dan On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:09 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, just SDS will work, Xentry is kinda overkill. If you buy an eBay multiplexer, buy one with two round connectors on the brick; they may be 3rd shift versions from the same factory that makes/made the original ones. Avoid the ones that have a RS-232 on the MUX directly. You will also want a ThinkPad T30... Although you can use a Baum CS2000/iScan D90 for some of the more mundane stuff... BTW, my E300's have both the OBDII and the OBD connector, and if I am not mistaken, when you have both, you should use the 38 pin round connector. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 20, 2013, at 17:56, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You have to have the full blown Xentry system to do anything on that car. On 2/15/2013 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just for grins I ordered an adapter that allows the connection of an ODBII reader to the 38 pin diagnostic connector on my S500, which is one year prior to the adoption of ODBII. I can't seem to find anything that describes what I should be able to see on the reader when I connect it to the car. For $3.00 I'm willing to risk a try, just curious as to if anyone else has ever used one of these. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6099 - Release Date: 02/12/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
Our local indy has the scanner/computer at his shop, so it was never a problem to pull codes. Though I've heard of people successfully pulling codes from homemade readers, they are usually just about as helpful as an OBDII code: enough to point you in the right direction, but far from specifically diagnosing the problem. Also, there are supposedly different 'banks' of codes, so to speak, held in different control modules and the homemade readers can only read one 'bank' (module). For detailed information/codes regarding modules other than the diagnostic module, the proper scanner and diagnostic connector is required. I would be cautious using any kind of homemade reader, or any other 'cheap' reader for that matter, as all of the car's control modules are right there connected to the CAN bus. One plug in of a faulty scanner may be all it takes to zap all of the control modules ($$$ to replace at $1,500+ a piece from the dealership). There is a great website that I like to visit now and again by an S500 coupe enthusiast who goes by his (what I assume to be) Ham Radio handle of K6JRF. The website can be found here: http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_S500.html He has a lot of great articles regarding engine maintenance, diagnostic test procedures, repair articles, etc. on the C140. It's a great start for someone who is new to the C140, but it's nowhere close to being a sufficient replacement for WIS. He's even got the DTC codes you seek, in addition to instructions on how to make your own scanner. Hope this helps and please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Regards, Tarek -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector How did you pull codes? Did you use one of the LED setups I see people making? Also, does anyone know of a source that lists all of the DST codes? I see bits and pieces around the Web, but there doesn't seem to be a concise list anywhere that I have found. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:10 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, you're right; I can't say I've done any serious digging/disassembly under the driver's side footwell, but anytime I've pulled codes it's always been through the diagnostic port under the hood on that car. If there is one, it's got to be buried in there, because it's definitely not mounted out in the open where it should be. Your C140 was manufactured in March, IIRC, so maybe it missed the OBDII. How are things going with it otherwise? If you have any questions, feel free to ask; hopefully I can be of some help. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I haven't looked - did you ever look for one? I ask because there were some late 95 models that did get them. I'll poke my head down there tonight after I get home and see. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:48 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Correction, no OBDII port on your C140. :-) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I would take exception to that. Any 1996 and later car sold in the US had to have ODBII. I just looked at a 96 S600 that was at the local dealer yesterday and it had the connector right by the parking brake pedal. And they wanted an exorbitant amount of money for the car, too. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:13 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Dan, No OBDII connector on the C140. Only the diagnostic port under the hood in the control module box near the passenger firewall. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector My car was built right at the transition to OBDII, so I need to look under the dash and see if there is a connector. I'll be under it this weekend, so I will try to remember to look then. Dan On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:09 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, just SDS will work, Xentry is kinda overkill. If you buy an eBay multiplexer, buy one with two round connectors on the brick; they may be 3rd shift versions from the same factory that makes/made the original ones. Avoid the ones that have a RS-232 on the MUX directly. You will also want a ThinkPad T30... Although you can use a Baum CS2000/iScan D90 for some of the more mundane stuff... BTW, my E300's have both the OBDII and the OBD connector, and if I am not mistaken, when you
Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector
LOL yea right. You wish it was in your backyard... -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector It threw a rod and is now in my back yard Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:10 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, you're right; I can't say I've done any serious digging/disassembly under the driver's side footwell, but anytime I've pulled codes it's always been through the diagnostic port under the hood on that car. If there is one, it's got to be buried in there, because it's definitely not mounted out in the open where it should be. Your C140 was manufactured in March, IIRC, so maybe it missed the OBDII. How are things going with it otherwise? If you have any questions, feel free to ask; hopefully I can be of some help. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I haven't looked - did you ever look for one? I ask because there were some late 95 models that did get them. I'll poke my head down there tonight after I get home and see. Dan On Feb 21, 2013, at 9:48 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Correction, no OBDII port on your C140. :-) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ODBII MB Diagnostic Connector I would take exception to that. Any 1996 and later car sold in the US had to have ODBII. I just looked at a 96 S600 that was at the local dealer yesterday and it had the connector right by the parking brake pedal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '93 500e on Portland CL
Well genuine AMG Monoblok II wheels are , but I've never seen genuine ones in chrome. Mine are silver with a polished aluminum lip. Even good knock offs can have the AMG stamp on the outside... the key is to check the part number inside... HWA xxx xxx xx xx are genuine. TE -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '93 500e on Portland CL 'Nother one trying to make a big deal about the wheels. Should I feel cheated that I've never had custom wheels? Au contraire, I've always felt fortunate to have had factory original wheels that have worked very well. Oh! 'Just realized - I have CUSTOM wheels on my 2-wheel utility trailer! 'Replaced springs, axle and wheels on it several years ago. The wheels are 15 stamped steel, though; do they count as CUSTOM? I bought 'em 'specially for the trailer, they take MB 123 wheel covers very nicely, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '93 500e on Portland CL Aren't those the Porsche-assembled ones? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 15, 2013, at 13:00, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: You don't see these too often. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3536505834.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe
Well given that my only advertisement has been on craigslist Raleigh and Charlotte, I am probably missing a bunch of 'Mercedes folks' in GA, SC and eastern NC who don't regularly check Raleigh or Charlotte. Looking back, I should have put an ad on ATL and Upstate SC and Charleston too, but it's a moot point now. I will have to wait until I get back to China, redo the ads with my father's cell phone number and tighten up the wording to thwart off any deadbeat dregs of society, which unfortunately are all I have heard from so far. Hey, at least the phone number listing that requires the secret decoder ring has eliminated any telemarketers. I really wanted to take care of the hassle of selling it for him while I was home, because I know he's got a lot going on and I guess it's just me trying to be a good son and take care of shit for my father. Is the car worth the bluebook value of $4,950? Definitely. Is the car a good deal at $3,950 with a salvage title and a bit of faded paint? Yes. Is the car an absolute steal at $3,000? Absolutely. Unfortunately it's only 'Mercedes folks' who understand these things though, as most dregs of society only care about mileage and price. These dumbasses don't realize that just the Bosch Euro Xenon headlights alone can fetch at least $1,200 on eBay, if not more. Anyway, to answer your question the car does have a salvage title; however, I have never heard of an insurance company not insuring a car just because it has a salvage title. If so, it's probably a company not worth doing business with anyway. TE -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 5:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe I will say that it's taken every bit of my willpower not to jump on this. I would have to cover a plane ticket and travel expenses, which adds up quickly. I can't believe you haven't gotten any takers at $3k. Does it have a salvage title? I ask because of the mention of a write off in the description. That can scare people off, I know. Some insurance companies are not terribly keen about insuring vehicles with salvage titles. Dan On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:54 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Thanks Dan, but we are not going to let it go for a penny less than $3,000. I've got some local offers at 3, 2.75, 2.5, etc., but thanks for the biggest lowball offer I have received so far. :-) TE -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe $1800 cash I am still offering. I can wire you the $$ and pick it up later... Dan On Dec 31, 2012, at 10:58 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3483460522.html Time for the fire sale, since my flight leaves on Wednesday and I just keep getting local clowns wasting my time. $3,000 and it's yours. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3483460522.html Time for the fire sale, since my flight leaves on Wednesday and I just keep getting local clowns wasting my time. $3,000 and it's yours. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe
Thanks Dan, but we are not going to let it go for a penny less than $3,000. I've got some local offers at 3, 2.75, 2.5, etc., but thanks for the biggest lowball offer I have received so far. :-) TE -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe $1800 cash I am still offering. I can wire you the $$ and pick it up later... Dan On Dec 31, 2012, at 10:58 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3483460522.html Time for the fire sale, since my flight leaves on Wednesday and I just keep getting local clowns wasting my time. $3,000 and it's yours. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Sale: 1995 S500 Coupe
Back from China for the holidays. My sister just got a 2000 SLK230 as a graduation/Christmas gift, so my family is back up to 5 cars, with only 4 drivers since I live in China full time. 1995 S500 Coupe is back up for sale. Entertaining all reasonable offers, as I would like to have this sold for my dad before I fly back to China on the 2nd of January. Pics and description can be seen at: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3483460522.html TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my GL after wife hit a deer this morning
Isn't that what an OM616 or OM617 is for? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:34 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] my GL after wife hit a deer this morning Actually, the nerdy whistle things allegedly alert the deer to your approach so they don't get startled into doing something dumb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states
What's the deal with that project anyway? Personally, I never thought taking 17 to Main Rd was that big of a deal. From the looks of the SCDOT proposal, it's gonna turn River Rd into a mess. What a shame. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states No this is the Emperor Riley Memorial $558M(or maybe $675M, still trying to figure that aspect out)-of-money-we-don't-have-for-8-miles Interstate 526 Extension Low-speed Parkway. But it is all related. Tax-and-spend Democrats and Spend-and-tax Republicans are lining up to line their pockets with taxpayer money. Johnny Island might actually secede. We're working on that. --R On 11/13/12 10:29 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I might need to call you this evening to throw my bail after our citizen action at the City Council meeting. More fuss about the Johnny Island Thruway? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states
Well clearly if it's going to be a 35-45 mph parkway with lights here and there there will be no significant impact on travel times. Sounds like a ploy to create a new shopping center strip for the Kiawah/Seabrook crowd. Though we are Seabrook folk, I would much rather stop at the Piggly Wiggly on Maybank or a place like JB's for food than some newly constructed shopping center with corporate chain places. Not to mention, flying down River Rd at 80mph in the C140 will be impossible. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states The plan is to build a parkway design (called Alternative G) for an extension to 526 from the end at 17. Another 4-lane bridge would cross over to Johns Island a bit north of the existing (new 4-lane) Stono bridge, run sorta along where River Rd is now N/S of Maybank, then go back over the Stono on another (new 4-lane) bridge a bit south of the existing (new 4-lane) Stono bridge, thence through James Island County Park and connect to the James Island connector, which backs up every morning by having all the inbound traffic back up at a single-lane and light. Oh, and it floods at high tides and storms. Alt G would be an at-grade 35-45mph parkway with lights here and there. It would destroy lots of marshland and Johns Island to developers (guess who supports the road?). 16 lanes of bridges to/from this island, almost as many as go into/from Manhattan. Think about that. $558M or $675M. Minimal benefit on travel times. And SC is like the bottom of the list in terms of education and health of its citizens. But Emperor Joe needs his damn road to complete his destruction of the area. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states
LOL, you did read C140 right? That's the nicest thing I own. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: White House deluged with secession petitions from 20 states Was that you driving the Bentley CGT a coupla years ago that passed me on River Rd going 80 or so? Who I caught up with on the Connector later a little while later, and passed? And who I saw at the Verizon store a week or so later and gave a talking-to to? And who shortly thereafter clipped a mailbox on Kiawah leaving a Bentley mirror in the road? --R On 11/13/12 12:50 PM, TE wrote: Not to mention, flying down River Rd at 80mph in the C140 will be impossible. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
LOL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter On Nov 2, 2012 5:33 PM, Mitch Haley mlh m...@voyager.net@m...@voyager.net voyager.net m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Yes, that's quite sobering. Reminds me why I don't drive when it snows here. My brother hated winter driving in Virginia because the other drivers were scary in snow. In the Cary, NC the people who get stuck in the winter weather are the overconfident northerners. Three issues: 1) We have some serious hills. This especially bothers New York City/Jersey expats for some reason. 2) When it snows, the ground is almost always above freezing, and we usually have rain before snow. The base becomes ice as the temperature drops if the water isn't moving; in newer cities with marginal drainage this means thick ice in random places. When it starts cold and there is snow it is normal (versus Pennsylvania at least) and relatively easy to navigate, but that is very rare here in the center of the state. 3) A southern snow plow comes individually wrapped (I think you northerners call it a shovel, but for some reason I never saw the point). Salt is something that we use on our food, and anyway our trucks are built to not drop stuff everywhere. Thus, real southerners utilize technology to do their work from home, while their Boston-hailing bosses wait for the tow truck in the cold. (BTDT...) In the last real snow storm there were many stories of folks getting half way up a hill and then sliding back into a pile of cars and SUVs. No doubt there are some good YouTubes of it. Cary being Cary remember that half the people are from north of the Mason-Dixon and the other half are from India. Moral of the story, physics don' care who you is. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another CL sailer
Better call Bohicket marina and reserve a slip... -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another CL sailer Won't need to bring a trailer, we can just hook up that tow strap and off we go. I'm thinking $300 if he throws in the boat. --R On 10/18/12 9:42 AM, Max Dillon wrote: I think I'd like to call Bob and stop by just meet him and see his place. Rich, wanna go along? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: live flight traffic of the world
I love people's reaction to seeing the FlightAware website for the first time. It's always something along the lines of... THIS IS AWESOME! HOW DID I EVER LIVE WITHOUT THIS!?! Another cool one to share... www.liveatc.net, though I may have heard about that one from this list. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: live flight traffic of the world This is a similar site I have used for some time to track flights directly - I think they also have a real time flights in the air section as well. http://flightaware.com/live/ Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 parts?
Don't have the door, but I have a set of European headlights for the W115 if you are interested. They are a bit tired overall, but I have all new parts (e.g. lenses, gaskets, etc.) for them still in the plastic from the dealership. Glass and chrome are in excellent shape. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 115 parts? Anyone out there got any 115 parts kicking about? I need the headlight surround door or whatever one wants to call it for my 76 300D. I finally installed the new headlights I bought a year or more back and in the process, discovered that the right side is in rougher shape than I thought it was. The clear colored plastic stuff that surrounds the actual headlight is falling apart. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Color matched spray bombs
Curt, Can't remember where you are located, but in Gastonia, NC there is a place called Franco Carolina Automotive Paint who makes spray bombs. Give them the make and OEM color name/code and they will make as many spray bombs as you want (~$15 each IIRC). Also, they can create blends to match any color sample you bring in. I heard about them through my buddy who works at Sherwin Williams Automotive Finishes in Charlotte, NC. They use Sherwin Williams Automotive paint, which in my opinion is great stuff. Be sure to get the primer and clear coat from them as well, as the type of primer and clear used must be compatible with the paint in the spray bomb. I called up there and ordered 2 spray bombs of 917 Aquablau for my 75 240D a while back, and bought the primer and clear as well. Project came out perfect! Franco Carolina Automotive Paint 1402 West Franklin Boulevard Gastonia, NC 28052 (704) 865-8536 Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Color matched spray bombs Look for a local supplier to the autobody shops. Some of them will make a spray bomb for you. If you take in a piece of the vehicle so they can match it, they will make the paint match the current faded color. Of course, if you do that, then over time it may fade too much but for now, it will be right. Randy On 03/08/2012 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I remember somebody had posted on here some time ago with a good source for color matching spray bombs. The gas filler cover on my Ranger has rusted away, so I bought a rust free junkyard replacement which now needs paint. Apparently the color is LL Wedgewood Blue Metallic. Any tried and true sources would be appreciated. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: OT - Ceramic stovetop hy5u5a7u
I would have to advise against it. We have an induction stovetop here in our flat in China and it leaves a lot to be desired. Not to mention, you will probably discover that half of your pots and pans won't work, even the ones you thought were ferrous. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: OT - Ceramic stovetop hy5u5a7u Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 11:11:38 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Newegg has an induction cooker for $50, a single burner that sits on the counter. Might be interesting to give it a try, cheap enough. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896112056nm_mc=EMC-IG NEFL071912cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL071912-_-EMC-071912-Index-_-InductionCookers-_-9 6112056-L04C --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain
Like! LOL, wait, this isn't facebook. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 7:36 AM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway. It was heavily raining. I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting which varied the speed according to the intensity of rain and vehicle speed. The intelligent adaptive headlights were on, as well as the rear fog light. A warning appeared on the instrument cluster that Pre-safe, Distronic, and Active blind spot assist were temporarily unavailable. I suspect it was from the heavy rain. The sat nav changed my route and suggested a cut over to I-95 to avoid some traffic. I was skeptical, but as we approached the exit, traffic slowed to a near stand still. I exited and followed the guidance to I-95. Rain had let up and the instrument cluster told me my radar assisted functions were available again. Approaching I-95, we stopped at an intersection. There was a large amount of standing water and several disabled cars. I reached over and pressed the button to raise the ride height of the car. I had a vision of a 5 figure engine replacement, but I cut the corner and we made it through, and finally onto the highway. It started raining heavy again. I stayed in the middle lane and kept a up a moderate pace. I checked my mirrors... coming up on my left, yellow headlights at all, was a Citroen 2CV. He passed me going about 10mph faster. And suddenly... I wished I was behind the wheel of a thirty year old 240D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver
Nobody NEEDS 7.1 Dan, but once you have it, you'll appreciate it. I wouldn't buy a new receiver without it. My brand of preference? Yamaha for receivers and Klipsch for speakers. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver There seems to be a pretty decent contingent of offerings below $200 as long as I don't need 7.1 and things like iPod or Bluetooth options. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. I have been looking at some of the manufacturer's refurb stores, and there are some possibilities there, along with places like Crutchfield. I was never terribly enamored of Crutchfield until a few years ago when I bought a head unit for my youngest son's car. They seem to finally have their act together with reasonable pricing and very good support. Used to be they were ridiculously expensive, but I suspect having to compete with the big box retailers forced them to become more competitive. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: $150 + $50 shipping. The old eBay bait and ship trick. Thanks - it does look like a possible candidate. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jul 13, 2012 12:50 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in the market for an AV receiver for our family room TV. Onkyo HT-S3400. On 50% off sale right now (last year's model) for $150 at Amazon. Throw away the speakers that come in the box or use them in a kid's room-- with real speakers that receiver sounds ridiculously good for the price. It's still a good deal at the regular price of $300, but for that much you may as well buy this year's version, the HT-S3500. (The only significant difference seems to be a front-panel USB connection on the new version for an iPod.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver
What nobody NEEDS is 7.2 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of TE Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:20 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver Nobody NEEDS 7.1 Dan, but once you have it, you'll appreciate it. I wouldn't buy a new receiver without it. My brand of preference? Yamaha for receivers and Klipsch for speakers. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver There seems to be a pretty decent contingent of offerings below $200 as long as I don't need 7.1 and things like iPod or Bluetooth options. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. I have been looking at some of the manufacturer's refurb stores, and there are some possibilities there, along with places like Crutchfield. I was never terribly enamored of Crutchfield until a few years ago when I bought a head unit for my youngest son's car. They seem to finally have their act together with reasonable pricing and very good support. Used to be they were ridiculously expensive, but I suspect having to compete with the big box retailers forced them to become more competitive. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: $150 + $50 shipping. The old eBay bait and ship trick. Thanks - it does look like a possible candidate. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jul 13, 2012 12:50 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in the market for an AV receiver for our family room TV. Onkyo HT-S3400. On 50% off sale right now (last year's model) for $150 at Amazon. Throw away the speakers that come in the box or use them in a kid's room-- with real speakers that receiver sounds ridiculously good for the price. It's still a good deal at the regular price of $300, but for that much you may as well buy this year's version, the HT-S3500. (The only significant difference seems to be a front-panel USB connection on the new version for an iPod.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver
C'mon... that's a 1 day project max. Fishtape/Fishtstick, drywall jab saw, and a drill. At least you only have to worry about 2 rear runs with 5.1 When you have a front projection setup, you have 3 including the center channel, 5 if you want to run additional presence speakers for FR and FL. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver My big problem with surround sound is finding a way to get a signal to the rear channel speakers. I wish someone would come up with a wireless solution Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:20 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Nobody NEEDS 7.1 Dan, but once you have it, you'll appreciate it. I wouldn't buy a new receiver without it. My brand of preference? Yamaha for receivers and Klipsch for speakers. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver There seems to be a pretty decent contingent of offerings below $200 as long as I don't need 7.1 and things like iPod or Bluetooth options. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. I have been looking at some of the manufacturer's refurb stores, and there are some possibilities there, along with places like Crutchfield. I was never terribly enamored of Crutchfield until a few years ago when I bought a head unit for my youngest son's car. They seem to finally have their act together with reasonable pricing and very good support. Used to be they were ridiculously expensive, but I suspect having to compete with the big box retailers forced them to become more competitive. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: $150 + $50 shipping. The old eBay bait and ship trick. Thanks - it does look like a possible candidate. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jul 13, 2012 12:50 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in the market for an AV receiver for our family room TV. Onkyo HT-S3400. On 50% off sale right now (last year's model) for $150 at Amazon. Throw away the speakers that come in the box or use them in a kid's room-- with real speakers that receiver sounds ridiculously good for the price. It's still a good deal at the regular price of $300, but for that much you may as well buy this year's version, the HT-S3500. (The only significant difference seems to be a front-panel USB connection on the new version for an iPod.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT - A/V Receiver
The one thing I can say in their defense is that they make sick projectors... I've had my Sony Cineza for about 6 years now and still love it as much as the day I bought it. It's amazing when your picture in picture is larger than most peoples TVs. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT - A/V Receiver Bought a rear projection TV from them some years back. Poor design that experienced failures on an annual basis. Got tired of it being fixed after the fourth year (luckily I had a five year warranty) and took them to small claims to recover costs. They wanted to give me another one (same model) but I refused. I had copies of service bulletins documenting the problem, and a list of kludges they suggested to cure it. Believe it or not, they had a local attorney appear at the hearing. He was totally clueless and unprepared. I wasn't. I got my money back for the TV and the warranty. That was the last Sony product I will ever own. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: What's wrong with Sony? Lousy menus, confusing controls, borderline specs, poor reliability. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver
Or, you can snake it under the carpet? Send it down through the crawlspace? Now if you have hardwoods and are on a slab, I can't help you LOL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver I have a typical split floor plan Florida house, with a large family room that abuts the kitchen with no interior walls in between. There is no place to fish anything. The mechanics of doing it are well within my abilities. The layout of the room makes it near impossible unless I do a ceiling mount, which I am not keen about. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2012, at 11:14 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: C'mon... that's a 1 day project max. Fishtape/Fishtstick, drywall jab saw, and a drill. At least you only have to worry about 2 rear runs with 5.1 When you have a front projection setup, you have 3 including the center channel, 5 if you want to run additional presence speakers for FR and FL. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 9:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver My big problem with surround sound is finding a way to get a signal to the rear channel speakers. I wish someone would come up with a wireless solution Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2012, at 7:20 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Nobody NEEDS 7.1 Dan, but once you have it, you'll appreciate it. I wouldn't buy a new receiver without it. My brand of preference? Yamaha for receivers and Klipsch for speakers. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver There seems to be a pretty decent contingent of offerings below $200 as long as I don't need 7.1 and things like iPod or Bluetooth options. Thanks for the info, I'll check it out. I have been looking at some of the manufacturer's refurb stores, and there are some possibilities there, along with places like Crutchfield. I was never terribly enamored of Crutchfield until a few years ago when I bought a head unit for my youngest son's car. They seem to finally have their act together with reasonable pricing and very good support. Used to be they were ridiculously expensive, but I suspect having to compete with the big box retailers forced them to become more competitive. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: $150 + $50 shipping. The old eBay bait and ship trick. Thanks - it does look like a possible candidate. Dan On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jul 13, 2012 12:50 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I am in the market for an AV receiver for our family room TV. Onkyo HT-S3400. On 50% off sale right now (last year's model) for $150 at Amazon. Throw away the speakers that come in the box or use them in a kid's room-- with real speakers that receiver sounds ridiculously good for the price. It's still a good deal at the regular price of $300, but for that much you may as well buy this year's version, the HT-S3500. (The only significant difference seems to be a front-panel USB connection on the new version for an iPod.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman
Re: [MBZ] komblinstrument
Clock? Can't remember if on the W123 its integrated into a multi-pin plug or not. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G. M. Brown Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:40 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] komblinstrument There's a hot gnd. wire with spade lugs and a yellow tag indicating komblinstrument up under the driver's side dash of my '84 300D. Anyone out there know what this is for? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Killer Elite -- movie with Benzes
Pretty good movie. Thanks for recommending it. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] The Killer Elite -- movie with Benzes set in the 80s, lots of old mercs getting shot up and blown up in what was supposed to be Oman. It's on Netflix. Also noticed quite a few in the background in supposed shots of London and Paris. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Funny that the Microsoft splash screen doesn't show up on the Ford units unless you have to spank the system (i.e. pull a fuse for a cold reboot). Many a rental car I had to reset due to slow performance of the Sync system -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 1:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination Many ford vehicles are powered by microsoft Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. Walt On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave... not because of a computer problem anyway! Glad to have your back! In a nutshell: The problem is related to the way Hotmail displays emails in its web interface. When you access Hotmail via any web browser, Hotmail's interface uses this feature called 'Active View' that is supposed to make emails easier to navigate and look more like webpages (e.g. showing attachments as embedded content, etc.). You can disable the way 'Active View' handles certain emails and attachments, but you cannot disable it completely. For whatever reason, this 'Active View' feature wreaks havoc on MIME multipart messages; which, as it turns out, is the default message type for digest subscribers. The digest emails show up jumbled and out of order, basically rendering digest mode intolerable. Fortunately, our list allows members to receive digests in one of two forms: MIME or Plain Text. By default, the option selected is MIME, so all we did was switch the delivery preference to Plain Text. Now the digests are showing up correctly. Bottom line... If you use Hotmail as your email provider and wish to receive the Mercedes list in digest mode: 1) Use a POP3 email client (e.g. Outlook, etc.) which does not require use of the web interface. OR 2) Access your email via a web browser and change your mailing list delivery preference from MIME to Plain Text (accessible by logging into the Mercedes mailing list website with your email address and password). TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list so what did you figure out? On 5/26/2012 11:39 AM, G. M. Brown wrote: Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list. I'm bck, with the help of Tarek. Thanx TE. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5028 - Release Date: 05/28/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list
Yea, not sure how they missed that. The active view feature was rolled out a few months back I guess as part of their SkyDrive update. I'm sure they will get around to fixing it at some point. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whaddya know . . . a compu savvy person on the list On May 28, 2012 8:44 AM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: For whatever reason, this 'Active View' feature wreaks havoc on MIME multipart messages; MIME has been a standard for twenty years or so. Stupid Microsoft. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 150mph The miscreants stolen Hertz Camaro had 4 flat tires... the cop car had cop car tires speed rated for high speed chases. I raise sincere doubt the rental Camaro would do 150. Could I see the chase video on that with the GPS screen link? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH... Speaking of 150mph, just yesterday morning a miscreant stole a 2012 Hertz Camaro at Sea-Tac airport and took off southbound. He was spotted down in Thurston County by a Deputy who reported that he was behind the Camaro at 150mph. He was finally stopped by spike strips. I wonder what kind of tires the two cars had on them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?
Nope, only LNG. To be honest, these things are so few and far in between at UPS, they are used more as a PR tool than a delivery tool. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: LNG has always been a part of the UPS fleet, though in limited quantities and only in select areas (e.g. the Pleasantdale GA hub). Are any of these bi-fuel (LNG or #2 diesel)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?
UPS has always had both gas and diesel trucks. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:39 AM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? #2 son was at UPS warehouse coupla hours ago; new UPS gas driven truck sitting there; son asked them why a new gas-driven truck 'stead of the usual Diesel. UPS guy told 'im, Yep, switching to gas driven trucks. BTW, son's '07 R320 CDI has 206 kmi on it now. Wilton '87 300D (126 kmi) '91 350SDL (200.6 kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?
LNG has always been a part of the UPS fleet, though in limited quantities and only in select areas (e.g. the Pleasantdale GA hub). Typically, the size of the package car (correct UPS term) dictates whether or not the engine is diesel or gas. The larger package cars (P1000, P1200) always have diesel engines, whereas the smaller package cars (P500, P570) have gas engines. I haven't seen a feeder truck with LNG until that picture. Usually we would try to incorporate those technologies into vehicles that are more customer facing, so to speak. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/u-p-s-finds-a-substitute-for-diese l-natural-gas-at-260-degrees-below-zero/ On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:01 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: UPS has always had both gas and diesel trucks. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:39 AM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? #2 son was at UPS warehouse coupla hours ago; new UPS gas driven truck sitting there; son asked them why a new gas-driven truck 'stead of the usual Diesel. UPS guy told 'im, Yep, switching to gas driven trucks. BTW, son's '07 R320 CDI has 206 kmi on it now. Wilton '87 300D (126 kmi) '91 350SDL (200.6 kmi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?
UPS destroys their package cars when they are retired from service. First, the package car is stripped of its badging, decals, etc. Next it is painted white, crushed to pieces and photographed. There are still a lot of vehicles in service from the mid 90's and even many of the new package cars still come equipped with the Spicer 5 speed. The new automatic transmissions are prevalent on the smaller size package cars (e.g. P500, P570), but the reason behind them is not to lure drivers who cannot operate a manual transmission. Every service provider who goes through driver training at UPS is trained on a specially designed 'training' package car, equipped with a manual transmission. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? Peter Hertzing wrote: nothing makes you feel as good as an old spicer 4 or 5 speed with an 6 or 8v71 behind you. When you get it down its like butter. The only package car I looked under the hood of (1995 vintage) had a Spicer 5 speed and a Cummins 6BT with P7100 inline pump. At the time, about ten years ago, I really wanted to get my hands on a retired package car like that. But it seems UPS does not sell its delivery trucks like Frito-Lay does. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] routers
Just bought the new Cisco Linksys EA4500 a couple of days ago before coming back to China to replace an old WRT54G. Works great, just got it setup yesterday. It's the replacement for the E4200. Not supported by dd-WRT yet though. :-( TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] routers Linksys E4200 with watching dual band N adapters for the computers -- On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Whats the word on routers these days? I keep dropping my internet connection and I think it might be my 6 year old Linksys. Thought I would try a new one since they are cheap anyway. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] routers
Yea I didn't get rid of it, I brought it back to my parents' house and set it up as a secondary WAP to improve coverage on the other side of the house. It still worked fine, but I needed something a little more up to date for my setup. Currently, I have two routers: 1 E2000 running dd-WRT with OpenVPN configured for an always connected VPN connection to the states. The EA4500 is for a direct connection to the Chinese internet for those devices I do not need to be tunneled through the VPN. I think they will work forever, it was a good product, but it really suffers when there is a lot of data moving through it. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] routers Wrt54g is what I have now Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:49 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Just bought the new Cisco Linksys EA4500 a couple of days ago before coming back to China to replace an old WRT54G. Works great, just got it setup yesterday. It's the replacement for the E4200. Not supported by dd-WRT yet though. :-( TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] routers Linksys E4200 with watching dual band N adapters for the computers -- On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Whats the word on routers these days? I keep dropping my internet connection and I think it might be my 6 year old Linksys. Thought I would try a new one since they are cheap anyway. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spam from trainpain2...@yahoo.com
Yea I've been getting a ton lately too. I can't help but think it's due to spambots trolling the mail archives. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Spam from trainpain2...@yahoo.com The last couple of days I have received spam though okiebenz from a couple of different people, this the latest one. Anyone else getting this stuff? --R On 2/21/12 11:12 AM, M G wrote: trainpain2...@yahoo.com Good evening! http://avayenoor.com/httphome-income-at2410.php?jluprofID=7 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:12:15 __ But when he finally came I mistook the Duke of Newcastle for Albert Edward. (c) Palldin vladivostokin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107
Nah they come through just fine without the VPN, but I'm currently running a dual dd-WRT router setup: one open to the Chinese internet and the other running OpenVPN. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 The great firewall of China doesn't block us?! Or do you have some proxy to keeps our Mercedes secrets safe? Jaime On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:48 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yea. Nothing happened to China, I'm here right now. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 TE wrote: What do you mean? You are Tarek, no? I thought you married, moved to Pittsburgh, then China? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107
Yea. Nothing happened to China, I'm here right now. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 TE wrote: What do you mean? You are Tarek, no? I thought you married, moved to Pittsburgh, then China? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107
What do you mean? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 SN wrote: Looks like the guy was a trucker. Got a big rig hood ornament and the toggle switch reads DO NOT USE CB WITH ANTENNA FULLY EXTENDED. What happened to China? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107
Well it is the MBZ list after all. I find it hard to believe that Mao has locked himself away in the mountains for so long that he believes the only place with email is the US. Surely there was another reason for his question. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 12:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 Lots of editing going on here. I believe he is referring to your relocation. --R On 2/16/12 11:12 PM, TE wrote: What do you mean? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay -WTF w107 SN wrote: Looks like the guy was a trucker. Got a big rig hood ornament and the toggle switch reads DO NOT USE CB WITH ANTENNA FULLY EXTENDED. What happened to China? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start
Not sure if this is relevant, but I've had a similar problem on a W124 where the there is a problem with the shifter linkage on the side of the transmission. If the switch that this linkage is connected to (looks like a rectangular box with a cable attached) doesn't sense that the car is in either park or neutral, nothing happens when you turn the key. No solenoid click, no starter, no slight dimming of dash/interior lights, no nothing. I'm not sure if this is really considered a neutral safety switch, but it has a sort of immobilizer effect on starting. I was stranded at work for a while, until I realized that it might be that dog carcass that I had no choice but to roll over on the way to work that morning. Apparently, when it brushed the underside of the car, it did something to the linkage/switch that didn't allow it to reset into the park position, although the shift lever was in P. A quick giggle of the switch lever/linkage and I was on my way. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start Well, I was thinking that if it had one, Luther may be able to use that to assist in troubleshooting, instead of bothering his bride. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:54 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Don't think my 91 126 has such; 'don't remember seeing such; I'll look specifically. BTW, no question is stupid; 'best way to learn is to ask, 'stead of just waiting on the chance that somebody else may mention it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start Stupid question. Does the W126 have the remote starter terminals on the passenger fender, like my W123's? Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So the small lower terminal should NOT have voltage when the key is in the start position and this tells the solenoid to trigger the starter? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/30/2012 8:07 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: * voltage between the engine ground and battery - when cranking 12.8V You sure about that? Meter pins between engine block and battery - terminal, should be 0V. * voltage between the small trigger terminal on the selonoid and the battery + when cranking. 12.8Vnbsp; Again, you _sure_? This would mean that the solenoid is not getting the signal from the key. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 C280
My dad's got a nice 97 E320 for sale. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1995 C280 my wife's 1995 C280 was totaled on the Monday after Christmas. liberty mutual gave me $4818.76. What do I want to buy? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water Heater
To Dan's point, the size (not capacity) water heater you buy is dictated by where you need to install it; however, you may find that the taller water heaters are cheaper. I remember when my house in Charlotte needed a new water heater in the crawlspace, a 50 gal lowboy was considerably more than a normal sized 50 gal water heater. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Water Heater Jerry, While it sounds like you are looking at this from a purely fiscal point of view, have you considered one of the hybrid hot water heaters? They are considerably more than a standard water heater, but have considerably lower operating cost, and in some cases, qualify for a tax rebate due to their energy savings. As for a standard tank style heater, the size is a matter of fit, and not relative to the efficiency. They make them narrow and tall as well as short and squat, since space sometimes dictates what can be used. As for the warranty, you'll have to do the math. If you get a 12 year warranty on a water heater that is less than twice the cost of the 6 year warranty, you should be ahead of the game as long as they provide a complete replacement. My last house had an 80 gallon heater (4500 square feet, 4.5 baths) and I was able to find a cosmetically damaged heater at Lowe's for about 30% off, which was a considerable savings for a heater of this size. Dan On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote: I'm guessing this topic has been discussed on this forum. Seeing a moist area beneath the 20+ year old gas hot water heater, I know that it is time for replacement real soon. Home Depot sells a 50 gallon GE with a 6 year warranty for $430. Way up from when I last looked at water heaters. Or for $700, a lifetime warranty on the tank. A 40 gallon goes for $338, and for the lifetime tank, $460. Home Depot Supply (warehouse) sells the Rheem 50 gallon for $465 and the 40 gallon for $369. Having had the 50 gallon heater here at home and in a rental, I see no advantage of a 50 gallon for four person, so I pllan to buy the 40 gallon this time. But what brand? And is the lifetime warranty worth $200 more? This will go in the garage with easy access, so replacing it would not be a big deal. On the other hand, why buy a heater (or roof) that you know will have to be replaced in your lifetime? Does it matter if the heater is the tall type? Any size will fit where I am putting it. I would even consider a cosmetically damaged one if the price was right. I'd be interested in your comments and collective wisdom. Oh, and I don't think I'm interested in a tankless. Too new fangled for me. Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6771 (20120105) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks
My C140 never had any water leak into the area in question (yes, the PSE pump on the C140 is located in the same area under the rear passenger side seat). It's been through quite a few downpours too. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A strange question about leaks Interesting. I would assume none but I am no expert. Mike On Oct 22, 2011 6:46 AM, Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know how much water comes in through a closed sunroof on a 140 when it is sitting in the rain? I need to document the amount of water under my back seat vs. the rainfall in the weeks prior to the company moving it inside. What I hope to document is that the amount of water [about a gallon] is in excess of what would come in through the closed sunroof of a stationary 140 in 1.83 inches of rain over 4 weeks - with the car inside part of that time. Hopefully sufficient evidence will have them decide to settle without me needing to sue them [they get a fair amount of business from my nephew]. Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions
Dan, Personally, I would go with the Cisco/Linksys E2000 and reflash the firmware with dd-WRT. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 10:58 AM To: Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] Wireless Router Opinions As I prepare to set up a new wireless network, I am looking at a number of wireless routers. I want dual band for sure, and possibly a local USB port, although this is not a deal breaker. Four Ethernet ports for sure. I am looking at a Linksys (Cisco) 4200 and a comparable Asus model. Given the choice, I would go with the Cisco based on quality and prior experience. Anyone out there used or seen these routers in service? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this car is in mint condition
The best part is how he speaks of getting it fixed at Firestone... -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 7:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] this car is in mint condition I can't see the link, but if this is the same W140, that's a bit more than a $500 or less to fix boo boo! lol If the car had collision insurance on it, I'm sure the adjuster would write the car off if you made a claim to have it repaired, as even a so so repair would probably exceed the value of the car. Bodywork, paint, light assemble, rear bumper$500, dream on! Ed 300E On 20 November 2010 19:00, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Im not even sure what this guy it saying but here is his reply *Dear okie-benz,* Am ok there, this car is in mint condition from in and out plus please be thankfull that at least am honest here i showed the actual pictures of my car unlike many people on ebay, yes the back of it is hit but that is not a major hit like u said, its just a change of a right back right side trunk and the light and maybe bumper which if u cant afford what the Firestone or other popular shops would charge i know people that will only take 500 maybe below to do it for u... other than that this think is amazing running and ones u check it out for real without jokes u will beleave me.Unlike others. plus i said the price is negotiatble ones u actualy come and see it face to face. Thankyou. - dmitriyprivet1 *Click respond to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply* Respond http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11051.m44.l1159/7?euid=3ea3043ad0514c8584161f ba1c7bdfbaloc=http%3A%2F%2Fcontact.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FM2MConta ct%26item%3D160508742538%26requested%3Ddmitriyprivet1%26qid%3D66653985019%26 redirect%3D0%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1159 -- From: okie-benz To: dmitriyprivet1 Subject: Vehicle condition: okie-benz sent a message about Mercedes-Benz : 400-Series #160508742538 Sent Date: Nov-20-10 07:04:37 PST *Dear dmitriyprivet1,* You said the car is in mint condition yet the whole right rear of the vehicle has major damage. You also said there was no rust yet where the paint is missing there is plenty of rust shown in the photo. Do you have photos of the wrong car or is your definition of mint condition different than every one else? - okie-benz On 11/20/2010 9:08 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: when u see the vihicle u will love it i promice u . couse the condition its is in for the milieage it has on is just briliant. contact me please and i prefer email becouse thats where i would reply much faster and more often. Thanks. Of course the crunch in the rear is mint too, it just happened yesterday. I promice u. --R On 11/20/2010 10:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-BENZ-S-420-1994-Merc edes-Bens-S-420-/160508742538?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item255f110b8a ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3268 - Release Date: 11/20/10 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sad MB Day
Damn, that commercial gets me everytime... Thanks Tim for the update. I will call my dad and take care of it. I will actually be in Cary in two weeks, may just stop by myself. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sad MB Day It broke, and sat in my driveway for something like a year and a half. You want the seat bottoms or not? :) -Tim On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: so what was wrong with it? On 10/6/2010 6:44 PM, Tim C wrote: I lost my first MB - '74 240D, the only one selected, approved, negotiated (if cashier's check for asking = negotiate :), and nominally owned by SWMBO - today to the Kidney Foundation, and, no doubt, the crusher. I knew it was going to happen - actually thought it was going to happen yesterday - but there was still a shock and sadness that passed through my chest when I rolled up to see the tracks in the mud, and the big gap in the driveway. I thought I had braced myself for its absence long ago; all the good stuff was pulled, only the shell was left; but still it's like my poor little pup, after such a short life, has gone off to be senselessly crushed by some kind of maniacal robot. Some cars I don't miss, like the Volvo, or the other Volvo, but this one was different - slowly wending past our defenses, it had rolled its way into our hearts. The skids make me think it knew what was coming - perhaps it felt like if it could get a grip on that wet clay it would have a chance. But the rugged, raw, frustratingly unavailable horsepower of the OM616 was insufficient to overcome the diesel-spitting winch, and so it is that our dearly departed has followed in the way of its forebears, borne without malice but fully in justice to its final place in perdition. May its final roads be paved solidly and smoothly with only the best of intentions! Fortunately the '77 was at work with me, but the '87 was in the street and facing the whole thing; I will have to schedule some cleaning time to get the image out of its headlights. Such things are always hardest on the survivors, or at least they seem to be the only ones who complain. Pictures before scuttling. Unfortunately I never took any interior shots, but then a fair amount of the interior stayed behind... http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=16324id=1062656089l=8589f8d3a1 -Tim wearing black (pants at least) tomorrow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3183 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SLS level control valve version interchangeability? (long)
My car is far from looking like a minivan... TE 140.070 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS level control valve version interchangeability? (long) I agree - my favorite 126, might have to get one someday. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:23 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The W126 560 SEC has SLS. IMO this is one of the UGLIER models. Ooh, them's fightin' words! I love the 126 coupe, especially the 560 with the tasteful ground effects. Certainly it's better looking than the 140 coupe, which looks way too much like the first-generation Oldsmobile Silhouette minivan. Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Geyser discovered enroute to ChowdahQ
Yea, but it's called opening the red cap on the IP that says OEL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Geyser discovered enroute to ChowdahQ Is it maybe lubrication to the pump? I seem to recall that the 240 engine has a means of adding oil to the injection pump but the 300 engine does not. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of toms cat1 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 6:39 AM To: mercedes diesel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Geyser discovered enroute to ChowdahQ Hi Kaleb, On my 1975 W115 300D, there is a small (black stiff plastic, maybe 1/4 diameter) line running from the rear side of the vacuum pump to the side of the Injection Pump, attached with banjo bolts at either end. It is about a foot long. Now that I think about it, I am not sure of its intended function (vacuum line? oil lubrication line?)... but what I DO know, after 35 years, is that there is a river of oil running through it, apparently. :) I have no automatic vacuum shut-off as anyone at the ChowdahQ can vouch for I open the hood and manually shut it down. Perhaps there is a connection here. :) Tom SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
Not at all and it's a great suggestion. I purchased my AMG Monoblock II's off of eBay, where they had minor cosmetic damage (chipped paint, very light curb rash, etc.) I took them to Prince Wheel Services in Monroe, NC, where they did a fantastic job on powder coating them. Justin Prince, the proprietor, has several color chips that we matched perfectly (incandescent light color, fluorescent light color, metallic flake amount, etc.) to the original astral silver color of the new center caps I bought for the wheels at the dealership. For $130 per wheel, they measured the run out, roundness, etc. of each wheel to make sure they were perfect. After stripping the original paint and lightly machining the aluminum lip, the wheels were powder coated (minus the lip) and then given a final clear powder coat of the entire wheel. The result was a perfect, brand new set of AMG wheels, inside and out. Don't look for a super easy job in cleaning though, as brake dust won't simply hose off of anything. However, minimal effort with a wet sponge brings them back to new again. Trust me, from a guy who tried refinishing a set of Bundts, the $130 per wheel is cheaper than the time and materials you will spend doing it yourself. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel color On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I decided to get the NAPA silver wheel paint and just paint the set. Less hassle than trying to find the right color. What about powder coating? There are a couple of outfits near me that advertise that they will powder coat a set of wheels for $200, including a solvent dip and bead-blast beforehand (and they have plenty of shades of gray available). Seems like it'd be worth it to avoid spending hours scrubbing away brake dust and hand-sanding all the little holes in a bundt or 15-hole pancake wheel. Anyone know any reason why powder coating would be a bad idea? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Track laying machine
The machine runs the track to survey for slight differences in rail height, perpendicularity, level, etc. It then utilizes the equipment you see in the video to rebalance and re-level railroad track. Although most major railroad companies have them, they are manufactured by the Austiran based company Plasser. Plasser American, the US headquarters is based in Chesapeake, VA TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Track laying machine Actually it's doing more than that. Amtrak had one on the northeast corridor between Baltimore and dc. For prep work they drop sections of ribbon rail on each side of the old track, then weld the sections into a continuous piece. The machine comes by and unclips the old rails from the old sleepers. It then spreads the old rails out while lifting them. Where the spread is wide enough, it pulls up the old sleeper and pulls the ballast, drops in a new sleeper. It then pulls in the new rails, bringing them under the old rails, and then clips the rails into the sleepers. The process is continuous. Some of these track renewal trains can even clean the old ballast! Neat stuff! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:56, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting clip. It would appear the machine is not actually laying track though. Rather it looks like its re-laying track. Pulls the track out of the way, lays new ties, re-ballasts. The ballasting is a pretty rigorous procedure... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:44:57 EDT From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Track laying machine Message-ID: 169d4c.3cbd0eb9.3995e...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII http://www.wimp.com/traintrack/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Track laying machine
Err parallel, not perpendicular -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of TE Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:38 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Track laying machine The machine runs the track to survey for slight differences in rail height, perpendicularity, level, etc. It then utilizes the equipment you see in the video to rebalance and re-level railroad track. Although most major railroad companies have them, they are manufactured by the Austiran based company Plasser. Plasser American, the US headquarters is based in Chesapeake, VA TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Track laying machine Actually it's doing more than that. Amtrak had one on the northeast corridor between Baltimore and dc. For prep work they drop sections of ribbon rail on each side of the old track, then weld the sections into a continuous piece. The machine comes by and unclips the old rails from the old sleepers. It then spreads the old rails out while lifting them. Where the spread is wide enough, it pulls up the old sleeper and pulls the ballast, drops in a new sleeper. It then pulls in the new rails, bringing them under the old rails, and then clips the rails into the sleepers. The process is continuous. Some of these track renewal trains can even clean the old ballast! Neat stuff! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:56, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting clip. It would appear the machine is not actually laying track though. Rather it looks like its re-laying track. Pulls the track out of the way, lays new ties, re-ballasts. The ballasting is a pretty rigorous procedure... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:44:57 EDT From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Track laying machine Message-ID: 169d4c.3cbd0eb9.3995e...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII http://www.wimp.com/traintrack/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ponton project
Notice it says hasn't started since 1990, not hasn't been started since 1990. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ponton project Ed wrote: ...TWENTY YEARS AGO!!! lmao. Hey - that's me - ...lmao mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] TEST
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
That's ridiculous. I have a 79 Mark V but it's way nicer in metallic silver with red leather -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh MY, that is the worse I have EVER seen I think. I thought it was bad when they take them of the car sitting out in the street from their window of their house. Now THIS is bad. Alex Chamberlain wrote: I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the eBay Photographer of the Year posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 02:33:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FOR SALE: 1995 S500 Coupe
All, Due to a recently announced relocation at work, I will be leaving Charlotte, NC for Pittsburgh, PA. As a result, I am putting my car up for sale in hopes to purchase a 4matic or Mercedes SUV. The details are listed below, including information from the data card along with my own personal notes: 1995 Mercedes-Benz S500 Coupe VIN: WDBGA70E1SA261326 Mileage: 207,342 Paint Code: 040 [Schwarz] Interior Code: 261 [Schwarz] Additional Options: 251 radio MB-Exquisit - USA (с 01.07.1992) 302 folding armrest in the rear with storage tray (с 01.01.1990) 306 activated charcoal filter (odor filter) (с 01.01.1990) 340 additional 3rd stop lamp (с 01.10.1989) 461 instrument with mileage reading and english lettering (с 01.04.1990) 480 self-leveling suspension (с 01.03.1965) 494 California version (с 01.05.1973 по 31.12.1995) 524 paintcoat preservation (с 01.01.1964) 551 anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998) 592 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (laminated glass), band filter green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, laminated safety glass - tinted strip (с 01.01.1972) 634 elimination of first aid box (с 01.08.1977) 636 elimination of warning triangle (с 01.03.1973) 652 8-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990) 805 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year 810 loudspeaker, sound package (bose) (с 01.12.1986) 880 closing system with infrared remote control (с 01.02.1988) On October 13, 2009, the car was involved in a low speed accident in a parking lot. The Toyota Highlander, driven by a woman on a cell phone, struck the front driver's side of the car at roughly 10 MPH. Fortunately, all of the resulting damage was localized to the section before the front tire on the driver's side. The S500 sustained minimal damage, with no damage to the inside of the engine compartment, hood or uni-body. Damaged parts included the driver's side headlight, front bumper, and front driver's side fender. With all of the parts assessed at dealer prices and labor rates estimated at top dollar from Charlotte Paint and Body (referral from Hendrick Mercedes), the car was deemed a loss by the insurance company. The car was fixed immediately following the accident with an OEM fender and bumper and has performed flawlessly ever since. As far as maintenance is concerned, every oil change has been done in 3000 mile intervals and only Mobil 1 0W-40 has been used. The coolant, air filter, charcoal filter, pollen filter, transmission filter, fuel filter, brake fluid, power steering fluid and power steering filter have all been changed at regular intervals using only genuine Mercedes-Benz products and lubricants from the dealership. The following maintenance tasks have been performed recently: fuel filter change, transmission filter change and fill, power steering filter change and fill (with Mobil 1 ATF), brake system flush, new pollen filter, new charcoal filter, coolant flush and fill. As far as the mechanical qualities of the car, the engine is a solid performing M119 motor with no problems at all. The ETA (Electronic Throttle Actuator) has recently been replaced due to age; a common high ticket item on W140/C140 vehicles. The engine uses no oil, nor does it leak a drop. The transmission is in great shape and shifts flawlessly. The transmission does not leak any fluid and the fluid and filter have been changed at regular intervals, using only Mobil 1 ATF. The kick down switch function works perfect as well. The shifter linkage bushings were replaced when I first purchased the car to provide a firm shift of the gear selector lever. The suspension of the car is perfect condition. The ball joints, tie rod ends and lower control arm bushings were replaced in July of 2009. The self leveling rear suspension is in perfect condition as well, with the filter and fluid changed at regular intervals. The air cells and other components are in perfect working order. Aesthetically, the car is in great shape. Having spent its life south of the Mason-Dixon Line, the car has no rust whatsoever. The paint is original and in great shape for its age, as I routinely wash and wax it with the Mother's brand three step waxing system. This treatment is accompanied by an occasional clay bar application, keeping the paint in impeccable shape. The interior is in overall great shape, with no cracks in the leather seats or armrest. All leather surfaces in the car are soft and pliable due to routine cleaning and conditioning using Lexol brand products. All vinyl surfaces in the car are cared for with Lexol's Vinylex. The dash has no cracks in it whatsoever; likewise for the Burl Walnut wood trim, all of which is in perfect condition. Everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) inside and out of the car is functioning
Re: [MBZ] Memorial to the 115 240D, Re: CL annoyances
Tim, I will be up your way next weekend. Any chance I can come by to take a look? Tarek -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C. Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:59 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Memorial to the 115 240D, Re: CL annoyances It's in my driveway, feel free to stop by with your mechanic and take a look. If you call before you come I'll make sure the battery is charged. Durham NC 27705. :) Seriously: dark brown in and out, the one that lost oil pressure in the interstate a few months ago (maybe almost a year now?), that story should be in archives (as is my address). US, auto, NA of course. Believe it is the original 616 engine, as it has a separately-oiled injection pump without altitude compensation. No bottom rust, a few poorly-treated spots of bird droppings on the roof and hood (expecting to use the random orbital and cover those with at least rattlecan before it's really up, so it has an honest chance). Good interior, have to look and make sure it isn't leaking though. Heater blower did -not- work, and had been replaced at least once before (hole around speaker). Engine kind of weakly turns on the starter but with no oil pressure, and water system appears to be slowly leaking down since it has been parked. Had the pencil glow plugs when I got it, unknown mileage (200k though I'd bet). I think I'm the third owner, and that #1 dumped it two years back because the heater fan quit, based on my discussion with the prior-to-me owner. AC worked well, though I think I had to have it in defrost mode - it's been a while, but I remember suspecting the freon tube was either bad or that I'd put it back in the wrong place when I did the cooling blower. Factory Becker that I might keep, even though it needs some electrical work. No maintenance records, but I have the original sales literature, and the print FSMs. The thing I loved about it was that the transmission was perfect - super smooth, and wouldn't even hint at going backward in gear. Ran well too, once it got going, and did fine going up and down the weak hills around here. It has been parked since it failed, I haven't even taken off the oil pan or run a compression test - the 300D has taken all my auto service time (and money!). I have until wife's patience runs out for the driveway to get cleared, so probably until March or April to make it gone on my terms before the junk men get it. If that's it then I'll take the good bits (Becker, ACCI, pencil glow plugs, and the oddly-valuable radiator) off, but hopefully someone will have some time and space to put it back right - if I can keep the 300D from sinking all my time, and no one else has bitten by then, maybe I'll hide it in a storage unit near the office and work on it at lunchtimes. It is difficult here as there are lots of 123s with fairly low miles getting dumped, and it's hard to justify a new or even used engine when you can get an entire mostly-rust-free 123 300D/DT (and even a few TDs and 126s) with about 200Kmi for $500-$1500 basically once a week during spring and summer, and the occasional dirt-cheap semi-functioning 107. I do like the 115 style but that only is worth so much effort. I paid too much for it, but if nothing else it got me out of Volvos and into diesels so it was probably a reasonable ROI. I still kind of want to keep it, since I like its look and I know everything that's wrong on it, but I'm not giving it a good home, and it just seems sad to let it deteriorate. Letting go is hard to do... -Tim --- Original Message --- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 10-02-03, 19:42:47 Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL annoyances tell me about this 115 240D Tim C wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: I was trying to sell an F150 last fall. We ended up keeping it and my elder son is driving it this winter since no one seemed willing to pay anything reasonable for it. I had one fellow make me an offer online without seeing it. I asked him by return if he understoood that I had a good argument that we had a binding deal if I accepted his offer and could sue him if he did not follow through with his payment. I did not hear any more from him. However, he probably just wrote me off as some sort of nut. Since then, if I get what amounts to a silly offer, I usually just don't bother to respond. When I sold my Mazda Protege, it was a good car for a college kid and I was asking an appropriate amount for that - nonetheless people would offer me $200 etc. sight unseen, but no one really was interested in coming out to look at it. I listed everything good and bad - had a lot of time in that car, and a few years of progressive maintenance. (This was pre-Craigslist, back in
[MBZ] Benz on VH1
WTF?? Celebrity rehab with Dr. Drew on VH1. Some part of the therapy program is to go outside and beat the hell out of cars, computers, junk, etc. with a sledgehammer. Poor Arabergrau W108 never saw it coming. Now I need therapy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back! my advice is to buy high and buy on rock. (but don't buy when high on rock!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] project 240D
They did. I had a 1977 240D W123. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:30 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] project 240D Larry, I have one too, but Nitske says they started in 77. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] project 240D w123s started in 78 - got one. OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] project 240D
W123 body style ran from 1977 to 1985. It was preceded by the W114/W115 and was replaced by the W124 in 1986. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:30 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] project 240D Larry, I have one too, but Nitske says they started in 77. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] project 240D w123s started in 78 - got one. OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lights - Asian or otherwise
I'm pretty sure those Headlight Restoration signs you see nailed to telephone poles in big cities refer to the restoration, or polishing of faded polycarbonate or glass headlight lenses that have yellowed and clouded over the years. I'd be interested in seeing how much a plating kit would cost, and how the headlights would turn out. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 2:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lights - Asian or otherwise You may be able to use a silver plate even though that is not original. There is a way to do the prep work, then drop the reflectors in a bath of electrolyte, Pinch and old quarter or two in a jumper cable dangled in the electrolyte, hook the cathode and anode cables to some number of old car batteries and do it yourself. The tricks are getting the prep right, getting the right electrolyte, getting the right voltage, using the right alloy of silver and getting the right length of time. I am sure there are people in mexico and other countries that do that pretty low tech. I see signs nailed to poles for re-plating headlights in big cities. I don't think those guys are high tech. When I was in Uganda, one of the guys I met made mirrors in his spare time. Just give him some glass, and some silver, and he would make you a mirror. He had no sophisticated tools. I suspect most of his tools and consumables came out of a junkyard. There were prior threads about plating kits, for the faint of heart. I have a lot of interest in this thread as I have a pair of W114/W115 euro's that have corroded main and fog reflectors. Silver plating was only done on old school headlights to my knowledge. I think from the 60's on, most headlight reflectors were coated by using ion vapor deposited aluminum. I've already talked to my guy at Sherwin Williams Automotive Finishes here in Charlotte (a fellow Mercedes enthusiast) and he doesn't recommend painting them with a chrome paint like DupliColor, etc. Sherwin Williams doesn't even have a paint that is suitable for this application. I then talked to my powder coating guy at Prince Wheel Services in Monroe, and he says that although there are some reflective finishes available in powder coat, that too will not stand up to the heat. Needless to say, I need to find a place, preferably in NC that can do ion vapor deposited aluminum. Anyone have a source? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lights - Asian or otherwise I saw an article somewhere about refurbishing the reflectors with metalized ducting tape. Given the cost of resilvering, I may look into doing that for Gump. Rust is not yet an issue Once mine get bad enough I'm thinking of trying spray 77 glue and aluminum foil. This _is_ the Frankenheap, after all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lights - Asian or otherwise
I have a lot of interest in this thread as I have a pair of W114/W115 euro's that have corroded main and fog reflectors. Silver plating was only done on old school headlights to my knowledge. I think from the 60's on, most headlight reflectors were coated by using ion vapor deposited aluminum. I've already talked to my guy at Sherwin Williams Automotive Finishes here in Charlotte (a fellow Mercedes enthusiast) and he doesn't recommend painting them with a chrome paint like DupliColor, etc. Sherwin Williams doesn't even have a paint that is suitable for this application. I then talked to my powder coating guy at Prince Wheel Services in Monroe, and he says that although there are some reflective finishes available in powder coat, that too will not stand up to the heat. Needless to say, I need to find a place, preferably in NC that can do ion vapor deposited aluminum. Anyone have a source? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lights - Asian or otherwise I saw an article somewhere about refurbishing the reflectors with metalized ducting tape. Given the cost of resilvering, I may look into doing that for Gump. Rust is not yet an issue Once mine get bad enough I'm thinking of trying spray 77 glue and aluminum foil. This _is_ the Frankenheap, after all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure
You guys... As always, the issue of W140/C140 ownership and maintenance is always blown way out of proportion, based on someone's bad experience or list hearsay. I'd be interested to see how many of the list members who wax poetic on the 140 actually own, or have owned one. The C140, in my opinion, is the best late model Mercedes to date. That's coming from a man who has owned many a W115 (1), W123 (3), W124 (2), W126 (2), W202 (1) and W210 (1). After driving any of them, any other Mercedes, or any other manufacturer's car for that matter, I always get back in my S500 coupe and think to myself Damn, even after 15 years, it's still the best car I've ever driven. That's not to discredit the difficulty or time involved in an evaporator job, etc. However, I think the main problem is that the average DIY'er assumes that because the car is labeled as over-engineered, it must be expensive to maintain or difficult to work on. Quite the contrary, I have no problem handling a majority of maintenance/repair issues with a little help from WIS and a wholesale discount at the dealership. Based on my experience with 140 models, I can say that the weak front suspension claim is completely unfounded. Maybe a neglected 140 can have a weak front suspension, but one that is properly maintained is trouble free, at least in my experience. Door closers? That's neither expensive or difficult to fix. Pretty simple to fix actually, provided one has information regarding the Closing Assist pump and its components. I could see the PSE pump and its components (door locks, trunk lock, gas flap lock, rear reverse markers, retracting trunk handle, lumbar support) being more of an issue, but that is also easily fixable, again provided one knows what they are doing. Now of course, I do admit that a car like a W115 diesel or W123 diesel can be maintained with a few rags, wrenches and basic electrical wiring tools. Hell, they are simple. But for the thrifty DIY'er with a little patience, the 140, whether coupe or sedan, is a wonderful car to own and maintain. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure yeah, I think the evaporator is the very first component to go on the car, after the paint primer. Replacement requires dismantling back to that stage. I'm not sure, but I think according to the book, the paint may have to come off the car too during evaporator replacement. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/12/14 relng...@aol.com ...Not to mention the evaporator. Compared to the evap repair, the door closer issue is just pocket change... Oh well, sure but you take for granted everyone knows about that one since there have been hundreds of posts on the various MB lists over the years. I've seen a few 140s at the dealer in for an evap change and they look like the aftermath of a Bagdad car bombing. The 140 project was such a disaster that the head man was banished to Malaysia to run a trruck plant. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration
Nobody would be able to see that from Mao's house anyway. Don't you live in the NC mountains like McVey did? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration --R wrote: Shouldn't the title of your mail be Festive Winter Celebration Decoration? My bad. Of course, you are correct - what is that word in the subject line. Does it have to do with... I dunno - strange subject line... sorry. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration
Poser. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration TE wrote: Nobody would be able to see that from Mao's house anyway. Don't you live in the NC mountains like McVey did? I wish. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration
Eric Rudolph, rather. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration McVey? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] christmas decoration TE wrote: Nobody would be able to see that from Mao's house anyway. Don't you live in the NC mountains like McVey did? I wish. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
The reason why you see it everywhere you go lately is because the state of Georgia just started getting the stuff about 6 months ago, so it's probably all the rave down there. I know this because a college buddy of mine now lives in Atlanta and he called me the day he was able to buy a 12 pack of it in the store. For whatever reason, they never had it down there before. Kinda like how NC never had Sweetwater 420 until I tasted some at the Charlotte Oktoberfest in 2007. Now the stuff is everywhere. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:28 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate frames
Funny... we'll see if it lasts. As for other weird NC news, I went to the DMV today to register my 79 Lincoln Mark V and they changed back to blue plates. WTF happened with the red? It took them that long to realize that red can barely be read on a moving car? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:53 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] License plate frames As of today, in NC, license plate frames that obscure the state name or registration stickers are illegal. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: RF trim strip won't sit flush - I figured it out
Is this on a W114/115? Asking because I just took all the trim off of my W115 240D and have been removing the red barrels. Will I be able to get them at the dealership? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of glenn brown Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:06 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] FW: RF trim strip won't sit flush - I figured it out In case anyone has this problem in the future, the correct application provided here by a fellow from the MB Classic Center. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Subject: Re: RF trim strip won't sit flush - I figured it out Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:48 -0500 To: g_010...@hotmail.com From: jon.sigg...@mbusa.com Good man the red barrel clips are correct the grey one's are used on the rocker that's why they have a wider groove in them because the rocker is thicker Thanks Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Jon Jon Siggson Parts Advisor (Embedded image moved to file: pic07924.jpg) MBUSA, LLC 9 Whatney Irvine, CA 92618-2808 http://www.mbclassiccenter.com/ Desk: 949-598-4843 Fax: 949-598-4870 Email: jon.sigg...@mbusa.com We are on Facebook! Click below and become a fan of the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center USA. www.facebook.com/MBClassicCenter View our Classics for sale! g_010...@hotmail. com To 11/24/2009 05:26 mercedes@okiebenz.com PM cc Subject RF trim strip won't sit flush - I figured it out Regarding the trim strip not fitting flush on my new RF fender with new female plastic trim strip inserts, I figured out what the problem was. The new (gray) female plastic trim strip inserts have a somewhat larger spacing where the insert grabs the fender wall than the original (red/orange) female plastic trim strip inserts thus allowing the trim strip to pull the female plastic trim strip insert out from the fender wall slightly (pix attached). Forgive the lousy pix, as I got too close but I believe one can get the idea from the pix. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.(See attached file: Female trim inserts.jpg) If you are not the intended addressee, please inform us immediately that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic07924.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4467 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091124/abfa912c/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Female trim inserts.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 19252 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091124/abfa912c/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
Guys, Thanks for the advice. I took most of the trim off the 240D last night, including the rocker panel trim, side trim on the front fender, doors and rear quarter panel. The 'wind diverters' on the side of the windshield came off also, in addition to the trim that covers the 'channel' on both sides of the roof. With all of that trim off the car, in addition to the grille, lights, bumpers, front air dam, etc., the only thing I'm left with is the rear trim just under the trunk lid and the trim for the front and rear windshields. Looking at the gaskets, I'd imagine they are original as it seems the AZ sun fully baked them years ago. From the responses I got, it seems that neither the front or rear gasket should be glued in. Is this correct? So when I install the new gaskets both front and back, I shouldn't glue them in? Also, anybody have any tips for removing the trim under the trunk lid? It looks as if the trunk lock assembly has to be removed, but I'm not sure. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim I think there is a screw on the end of those long side pieces. Take a look -- will be a single screw where it is covered by another body panel when the door or trunk is closed. Might be one on both ends. The rest of the piece is held on by plastic pins stuck through littlre red bushings. Replace all of those, by the way. A thin putty knife works well to remove the trim, or a thin plastic blade. Do not use anything sharp, you will cut the rubber gasket underneath, and they are hard to get now. Gaskets for front and rear windows are removed as follows: Pull trim off botton edge (one screw on each end, pull off barbed clips with hooked puller. The trim fits into the gasket. Disconnect rear window heater wires in the trunk. Once the trim is off, from the inside, pry down and out at the upper corners of the lip on each side. Gasket will pop to the oustide, releasing window. On the rear, make SURE the wires come out of the holes in the rear cowling freely. If some idiot glued the gasket in, you will probably have to find a hooked knife and cut it out. Be prepared to fix the flange, it's likely rusty with all the paint rubbed off if the gaskets are cracked. Make sure the flange is perfectly clean and SMOOTH before installing new gasket. Feather-fill and paint if it's rough, else it WILL leak. To go back in (with new gasket). Clean window -- must be prefectly clean in the area the gasket seats. Install gasket on window, then insert trim into gasket (the part that goes around except at the base). Wrap a 1/8 cord around the slot that goes over the flange on the body, starting and ending in the center of the bottom edge. Lift window into place, setting the lower edge over the flange as much as possible. Have a helper press window firmly against the flange, properly centered (this is the gard part!) and use the cord to flip the lip over the flange. Make sure the wires are in place for the rear one. Pull the cord out slowly and carefully. Watch the top corners, as this is where you usually have problems. Silicone spray lube helps quite a bit, too. With luck it will pop right in on the first wrap, but if not you have the second. A blunt, hooked screwdriver is also useful to help at the top corner. Peter Get new little plugs for the wires -Original Message- From: TE ban...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Nov 10, 2009 12:16 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim Thanks for the response, Peter. I was unaware that the side trim had a screw on the inside of the door, but removing the door panels is on my to do list, so it shouldn't be a problem. The side trim on the trunk is easily accessible from inside, but I'm not sure about the side trim on the front fenders. My main concern lies with the wind diverter on both sides of the windshield, as well as with the trim that wraps around the rear of the car, just under the trunk. Since the front and rear windshield gaskets are badly cracked, I was hoping to remove them also before taking to the paint shop, that way the metal under the gasket gets a nice coat. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim You will need to remove the screw on each corner (inside the door frame if I remember correctly), and then make a hooked sheet metal puller to pull the trim off the barbed clips. Be careful not to bend it, it's aluminum. The trim strip that fits into the gasket does not come off, it stays in the gasket until you pull the glass. I believe the wind diverter along
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
Trunk trim came off easy today. There is a nut (8mm) that has to be taken off of the end of each trim piece (near the corners). Next, in order to get the short piece of chrome that covers the lock area off, take off the latch plate inside the trunk (3 phillips head screws). Then remove the lock assembly by removing the two nuts (8mm) now accessible through the latch opening. Once this is done, the chrome plate will come off by removing from the outside. You can remove the lock assembly from the linkage if you wish, but it is not necessary for removal of the trim. Now with the short chrome piece off and the nuts removed on the corners, the rest of the trim pops out of the clips, similar to that on the rest of the side trim. There should be 4 clips on each piece. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim Please figure this out. I have been scratching my head for a while about just this item. The trunk trim does not look like it wants to come off simply. Need to de-trim Gump for her painting. clay On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:09 AM, TE wrote: Guys, Thanks for the advice. I took most of the trim off the 240D last night, including the rocker panel trim, side trim on the front fender, doors and rear quarter panel. The 'wind diverters' on the side of the windshield came off also, in addition to the trim that covers the 'channel' on both sides of the roof. With all of that trim off the car, in addition to the grille, lights, bumpers, front air dam, etc., the only thing I'm left with is the rear trim just under the trunk lid and the trim for the front and rear windshields. Looking at the gaskets, I'd imagine they are original as it seems the AZ sun fully baked them years ago. From the responses I got, it seems that neither the front or rear gasket should be glued in. Is this correct? So when I install the new gaskets both front and back, I shouldn't glue them in? Also, anybody have any tips for removing the trim under the trunk lid? It looks as if the trunk lock assembly has to be removed, but I'm not sure. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim I think there is a screw on the end of those long side pieces. Take a look -- will be a single screw where it is covered by another body panel when the door or trunk is closed. Might be one on both ends. The rest of the piece is held on by plastic pins stuck through littlre red bushings. Replace all of those, by the way. A thin putty knife works well to remove the trim, or a thin plastic blade. Do not use anything sharp, you will cut the rubber gasket underneath, and they are hard to get now. Gaskets for front and rear windows are removed as follows: Pull trim off botton edge (one screw on each end, pull off barbed clips with hooked puller. The trim fits into the gasket. Disconnect rear window heater wires in the trunk. Once the trim is off, from the inside, pry down and out at the upper corners of the lip on each side. Gasket will pop to the oustide, releasing window. On the rear, make SURE the wires come out of the holes in the rear cowling freely. If some idiot glued the gasket in, you will probably have to find a hooked knife and cut it out. Be prepared to fix the flange, it's likely rusty with all the paint rubbed off if the gaskets are cracked. Make sure the flange is perfectly clean and SMOOTH before installing new gasket. Feather-fill and paint if it's rough, else it WILL leak. To go back in (with new gasket). Clean window -- must be prefectly clean in the area the gasket seats. Install gasket on window, then insert trim into gasket (the part that goes around except at the base). Wrap a 1/8 cord around the slot that goes over the flange on the body, starting and ending in the center of the bottom edge. Lift window into place, setting the lower edge over the flange as much as possible. Have a helper press window firmly against the flange, properly centered (this is the gard part!) and use the cord to flip the lip over the flange. Make sure the wires are in place for the rear one. Pull the cord out slowly and carefully. Watch the top corners, as this is where you usually have problems. Silicone spray lube helps quite a bit, too. With luck it will pop right in on the first wrap, but if not you have the second. A blunt, hooked screwdriver is also useful to help at the top corner. Peter Get new little plugs for the wires -Original Message- From: TE ban
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
Yea it will probably be as much of a b*tch to get back on as it was to get it off. The black trim piece is interesting, as I think its a bendable aluminum strip that snaps onto the top of the trim. The trim on the other hand is just fitted over the seam in the body. I got the horizontal pieces off with little difficulty and much effort. The back pieces I still cannot remove, but I still want to take them off. Hell, I've gotten this far in creating a blank canvas to paint, might as well finish the job. I'm glad I took them off though, because I found a penny sized paint bubble, half of which was under the lip of the trim on the passenger side. I'm guessing when I press them back on I will just use a table saw to cut a slit in a piece of wood that will cradle the top of the trim when I'm hammering the sh*t out of it. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim From my field stripping experience with 123s, I do seem to recall that the removal of the trunk lock and the black trim surrounding it has to be done from the inside of the trunk. And yes, I do believe the lock has to come out as well. Not a big deal. BTW, if you took the rain channel trim off you're in for a b*tch of a time getting it back on. It's not intended to be removed. If you have a MB service manual they used to have the profile of the tool that has to be used to put (force) it back on. You have to make it out of a piece of hardwood, such as oak or maple. Dan --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 2:39 PM Please figure this out. I have been scratching my head for a while about just this item. The trunk trim does not look like it wants to come off simply. Need to de-trim Gump for her painting. clay On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:09 AM, TE wrote: Guys, Thanks for the advice. I took most of the trim off the 240D last night, including the rocker panel trim, side trim on the front fender, doors and rear quarter panel. The 'wind diverters' on the side of the windshield came off also, in addition to the trim that covers the 'channel' on both sides of the roof. With all of that trim off the car, in addition to the grille, lights, bumpers, front air dam, etc., the only thing I'm left with is the rear trim just under the trunk lid and the trim for the front and rear windshields. Looking at the gaskets, I'd imagine they are original as it seems the AZ sun fully baked them years ago. From the responses I got, it seems that neither the front or rear gasket should be glued in. Is this correct? So when I install the new gaskets both front and back, I shouldn't glue them in? Also, anybody have any tips for removing the trim under the trunk lid? It looks as if the trunk lock assembly has to be removed, but I'm not sure. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim I think there is a screw on the end of those long side pieces. Take a look -- will be a single screw where it is covered by another body panel when the door or trunk is closed. Might be one on both ends. The rest of the piece is held on by plastic pins stuck through littlre red bushings. Replace all of those, by the way. A thin putty knife works well to remove the trim, or a thin plastic blade.. Do not use anything sharp, you will cut the rubber gasket underneath, and they are hard to get now. Gaskets for front and rear windows are removed as follows: Pull trim off botton edge (one screw on each end, pull off barbed clips with hooked puller. The trim fits into the gasket. Disconnect rear window heater wires in the trunk. Once the trim is off, from the inside, pry down and out at the upper corners of the lip on each side. Gasket will pop to the oustide, releasing window. On the rear, make SURE the wires come out of the holes in the rear cowling freely. If some idiot glued the gasket in, you will probably have to find a hooked knife and cut it out. Be prepared to fix the flange, it's likely rusty with all the paint rubbed off if the gaskets are cracked. Make sure the flange is perfectly clean and SMOOTH before installing new gasket. Feather-fill and paint if it's rough, else it WILL leak. To go back in (with new gasket). Clean window -- must be prefectly clean in the area the gasket seats. Install gasket on window, then insert trim into gasket (the part that goes around except at the base). Wrap a 1/8 cord around the slot that goes over the flange
[MBZ] W115 Bumpers
On another note, I noticed something interesting when removing the front and rear bumpers from the 75 240D. The ugly 'tack on' bumpers I have the 2 typical struts with 4 bolts in a square pattern. I bought a set of early W115 bumpers, in hopes to replace the ones on the car to give it a more streamlined look, not to mention the extra 8 inches gained will allow me to tap dance around the car better when it's in the garage. The early W115 bumpers I have though only have 2 holes in the mounting brackets, not even close to what the car has available to mount up to. Any ideas? TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
My guess is the W114/115 trim is a little different, as it just fits onto the rib that runs the length of the body in an inverted U fashion. The actual channel that carries the water is just a painted surface with no trim covering it. Nonetheless, it was still a pain to get off, as it is pressed onto that rib pretty well. I actually put the trim back into place after taking it off to make sure it would go back on OK. It's almost as if I can just hit the top of the trim with a rubber mallet to get it to snap back onto the rib. The black portion is a different story however, as it had to be bent a little out of shape to get off in the first place. If it doesn't stay, maybe so adhesive will do the trick. I still can't get the wide back pieces of trim off though (the ones that cover the ventilation holes in the body). TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim If it is similar to the 123 rain gutter trim, it has to be driven back on to the weldment using a piece of hardwood with a notch cut in it. It does not go over the trim in an inverted U fashion, just butts up against the inside (body side) and applies force to the shoulder of the trim. It's a b*tch to do, especially when you're beating on it like a mother and trying not to miss or slip and trash your newly painted car. Don't ask me how I know this. As for the black portion, it has a U shaped extrusion running through it, which is molded to the shape of the rain channel. if you bend or curve it al all and change the shape, it won't want to stay on the aluminum trim after you put everything together. Whatever you do, take the four pieces of trim and lay them flat somewhere out of the way where they won't be disturbed until you're ready to install them. Dan --- On Sun, 11/15/09, TE ban...@carolina.rr.com wrote: From: TE ban...@carolina.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 7:17 PM Yea it will probably be as much of a b*tch to get back on as it was to get it off. The black trim piece is interesting, as I think it’s a bendable aluminum strip that snaps onto the top of the trim. The trim on the other hand is just fitted over the seam in the body. I got the horizontal pieces off with little difficulty and much effort. The back pieces I still cannot remove, but I still want to take them off. Hell, I've gotten this far in creating a blank canvas to paint, might as well finish the job. I'm glad I took them off though, because I found a penny sized paint bubble, half of which was under the lip of the trim on the passenger side. I'm guessing when I press them back on I will just use a table saw to cut a slit in a piece of wood that will cradle the top of the trim when I'm hammering the sh*t out of it. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim From my field stripping experience with 123s, I do seem to recall that the removal of the trunk lock and the black trim surrounding it has to be done from the inside of the trunk. And yes, I do believe the lock has to come out as well. Not a big deal. BTW, if you took the rain channel trim off you're in for a b*tch of a time getting it back on. It's not intended to be removed. If you have a MB service manual they used to have the profile of the tool that has to be used to put (force) it back on. You have to make it out of a piece of hardwood, such as oak or maple. Dan --- On Sun, 11/15/09, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 2:39 PM Please figure this out. I have been scratching my head for a while about just this item. The trunk trim does not look like it wants to come off simply. Need to de-trim Gump for her painting. clay On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:09 AM, TE wrote: Guys, Thanks for the advice. I took most of the trim off the 240D last night, including the rocker panel trim, side trim on the front fender, doors and rear quarter panel. The 'wind diverters' on the side of the windshield came off also, in addition to the trim that covers the 'channel' on both sides of the roof. With all of that trim off the car, in addition to the grille, lights, bumpers, front air dam, etc., the only thing I'm left with is the rear trim just under the trunk lid and the trim for the front and rear windshields. Looking at the gaskets, I'd imagine they are original as it seems the AZ sun fully baked them years ago. From the responses I got, it seems that neither the front or rear gasket should
Re: [MBZ] W115 Bumpers
Son of a... Well, what is my option then? Will European bumpers fit? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Bumpers The old style bumpers will not fit. Not only to the frame horns differ significantly, the fender and radiator supports are different. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 Trim
Does anyone have any insight as to how the exterior trim on a W115 is properly removed? I am trying to prep the 240D for painting and I want to ensure a quality job is done by essentially removing any unnecessary trimwork, lights, etc. I'm mainly referring to the chrome trimwork around the windshield and on the front of the A-pillar, as I'd imagine the side trim just pops off the clips. Any help is greatly appreciated. TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim
Thanks for the response, Peter. I was unaware that the side trim had a screw on the inside of the door, but removing the door panels is on my to do list, so it shouldn't be a problem. The side trim on the trunk is easily accessible from inside, but I'm not sure about the side trim on the front fenders. My main concern lies with the wind diverter on both sides of the windshield, as well as with the trim that wraps around the rear of the car, just under the trunk. Since the front and rear windshield gaskets are badly cracked, I was hoping to remove them also before taking to the paint shop, that way the metal under the gasket gets a nice coat. Any advice? Regards, TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W115 Trim You will need to remove the screw on each corner (inside the door frame if I remember correctly), and then make a hooked sheet metal puller to pull the trim off the barbed clips. Be careful not to bend it, it's aluminum. The trim strip that fits into the gasket does not come off, it stays in the gasket until you pull the glass. I believe the wind diverter along the sides pulls off too after you remove a screw, but I'll have to check to make sure, as my 22D didn't have it -- it's on my brother's 75 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos
I actually visited the Geely plant in Hangzhou when I was in China. Pretty nice place. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos US: Ford confirms Geely as preferred bidder for Volvo Cars 28 October 2009 | Source: just-auto.com editorial team Ford announced today that a consortium led by Zhejiang Geely Group Holding Co. Ltd. is its preferred bidder in the ongoing discussions concerning the possible sale of Volvo Car Corporation. Ford said that while it will be engaging in more detailed and focused negotiations with Geely, no final decisions have been made. Ford's objective in our discussions with Geely is to secure an agreement that is in the best interests of all the parties, said Lewis Booth, Ford Motor Company executive vice president and chief financial officer. Any prospective sale would have to ensure that Volvo has the resources, including the capital investment, necessary to further strengthen the business and build its global franchise, while enabling Ford to continue to focus on and implement our core 'One Ford' strategy. Ford believes Geely has the potential to be a responsible future owner of Volvo and to take the business forward while preserving its core values and the independence of the Swedish brand. But there is much work that needs to be completed in the more substantive discussions that are agreed to take place. We have no specific timeline to conclude the discussions. While Ford would continue to cooperate with Volvo in several areas after a possible sale, Ford said it does not intend to retain a shareholding in Volvo. John Fleming, chairman of Ford of Europe and Volvo Cars, said: Ford fully understands the iconic Swedish nature of the Volvo brand and the responsibility we have as Volvo's custodian to its employees, local communities and other key stakeholders. Any sale also would need to take into account the significant connections between Ford and Volvo in terms of continuing component supply, engineering and manufacturing. Ford and Volvo will maintain appropriate communications with key stakeholders, such as Volvo's employees, unions and the Swedish government, during the ongoing process. Volvo's management team welcomes today's announcement as a positive step forward, Volvo CEO Stephen Odell said. At Volvo, we are continuing to keep our attention firmly fixed on engineering and building great Volvo cars, to reduce our cost base and to return the business to sustainable profitability at the earliest possible opportunity. Speaking exclusively to just-auto last week, Ford CEO Alan Mulally stressed the importance of the transition in Ford's premium brand divestments. Clearly the transition will be an important part of the [Volvo] sale, because we have a lot of pieces of the product in the production system that are integrated - just like Aston Martin and Jaguar Land Rover, the transition is important, he said. We have done that very well with the brands that we have divested and we are committed to the success of Volvo long-term. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy wins the lazy photographer of the week award
He's actually putting his neighbor's shi**y beater on craigslist because he's tired of seeing it left for dead across the street from his house. Either that, or he saw two youths leave the Sack O' Suds in it while he was cooking his grits. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] this guy wins the lazy photographer of the week award The only reason he took that one is because he couldn't figure out how to upload the Google Earth pic of that car. Bob R On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He took the pic from his jail cell. ==R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Original Message Subject: mercedes 300 sd turbo deisel - $800 (excelsior springs) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: ka...@striplin.net To: ka...@striplin.net ka...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1441543860.htmlto contact the person who posted this. mercedes 300 sd turbo deisel Date: 2009-10-28, 1:00PM i got a 1984 mercedes 300 turbo deisel with a inline five cilinder.. gets great gas mileage. it has almost 220,000 on this motor but i do have another motor with around 110,000 miles and the trans has 110,000 miles... its a good running car.. the good... has brand new tires with less than 500 miles on them.. good gas mileage body and frame has no rust... has independant rear suspintion and dif.. the motor in it has been reported to run up to one million miles.. i swear on my grandmas life.. blows cold ac and hot defrost the BAD.. the tranny was just put in from a shop called RECON located here in excelsior and the trans is shifting kinda hard... the two front seats are in bad condition.. if you are interested TEXT me at 816-922-9655.. names Darren * Location: excelsior springs * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1441543860.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] you ever seen one of these?
Read all about it here... http://www.k6jrf.com/BW_fgs.html -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Van Zandt Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:46 PM To: davesl...@okiebenz.com Cc: mercedes Mailing List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] you ever seen one of these? Sure! It's a commonly available FGS module that several of the 500E owner crowd are using. It works - solid product. Substitute for the no longer available Bergwerks FGS. On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-First-gear-star-switch-module_W0QQit emZ330366808956QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=it em4ceb65737c -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 ___ Daveslist mailing list davesl...@okiebenz.com http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/daveslist_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
Yabbut how do you get to them? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Three 10mm nuts hold it in. One center and one each about 30cm in from the A pillar clay On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:30 PM, TE wrote: I was recently trying to take the dash out of a W115 at the pull a part to replace the one in my 240D, but after taking off the bottom support rods, I couldn't figure out how to get to whatever is holding it behind the dash. The center console was previously removed. Any tips? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. The W115 was by far the worst. I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about the oil pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking spot but the pressure was too great and oil too hot. Mike LaFleur From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes about a day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death of the car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing the evap unit on a W140. Jim Cathey wrote: Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin out loud. I've RR'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging in my garage.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/64 1c440b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
I was recently trying to take the dash out of a W115 at the pull a part to replace the one in my 240D, but after taking off the bottom support rods, I couldn't figure out how to get to whatever is holding it behind the dash. The center console was previously removed. Any tips? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. The W115 was by far the worst. I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about the oil pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking spot but the pressure was too great and oil too hot. Mike LaFleur From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes about a day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death of the car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing the evap unit on a W140. Jim Cathey wrote: Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin out loud. I've RR'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging in my garage.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/64 1c440b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lustmobiles
Dude, I can get you a 4.5 for 15k. The guy is out of his mind. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Lustmobiles Mercedes 1970 280SE 3.5 The local Indy I favor for repairs has one ['71] for sale on his lot. A mere $129k, slightly less than $1/mile! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall
Yea, I remember Kathy Kennel banned me. Then Jabba banned me from the banned list twice. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall Dang, Jabba, I had totally forgotten about cookies. Wow, that does go back a long time. Don't forget Kathy and the MBCA list, too - there was some parallel action that took place as a result of that debacle as well... Dan --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 4:20 PM i'd guess 98 or 99, but someone like little tommy would remember such a thing. to sum it up briefly as i understand it: in the beginning, there was dave realtime and esa ahola. figure about 95ish. a dominant figure on the list was cookies and he really pissed off a ton of people everyday. ritter and easley then started their own list to be kinder and gentler and cookies free, maybe about 96 or 97. one stuart steele was doing the listmom thing for ritter/easley and he and ritter undertook basically what amounted to purges of all dissidents. the mbz.org lists began as a reaction to those purges, beginning with banned as a safe haven for mercedesphiles who had been purged from ritter/easley. as ritter/easley purported to be kinder and gentler, banned went out of its way to be exactly the opposite so while it did contain tech information, it was not a fit forum for many who wished to participate in an alternative tech list. so richard sexton and i decided that if dr booth as willing to participate in the proposed diesel list, we'd run out a bunch of more democratic and open lists via mbz.org then richard and mbz.org had one final nuclear meltdown and lists disappeared, but kaleb took the initiative and stepped up to keep them alive (originally while richard brought the lists back up, but now permanently) and that is where we are today. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Peter Merle merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote: When did the list actually start? I have been on /off over many years . Marshall always helped out and made sense of many things than perflexed one Peter 2009/8/13 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net But we have you now. --R Gary Hurst wrote: marshall is historically the only reason this list exists. the whole mbz.org list system (apart from banned) was contingent upon marshall's agreed participation. had marhall said no, the plan was to never start the diesel list. just a bit of old school trivia for those of you who might still care = ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090813/c1f cdb2a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090813/db 48a92c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall
LOL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall After how much fun we made (and still make) of his maintenance suggestions? The short version is this. I asked him to come to the IowaQ as the guest of honor, and he said that he couldn't attend due to health issues and would never again be able to travel anywhere due to the cancer, but said how much he wished he could join us, and would be here if he physically could. There was a bit more ... but that is the important stuff. Even while he was (I am assuming) in hospice, he still wanted to get together with Benz owners, but his body gave out before his will to get together did. His final words to me were: NEVER by a car from Kaleb. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you should share it with all. -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090812/ab 4d0254/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall
In regard to the last statement, that is. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of TE Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:19 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall LOL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bye bye Marshall After how much fun we made (and still make) of his maintenance suggestions? The short version is this. I asked him to come to the IowaQ as the guest of honor, and he said that he couldn't attend due to health issues and would never again be able to travel anywhere due to the cancer, but said how much he wished he could join us, and would be here if he physically could. There was a bit more ... but that is the important stuff. Even while he was (I am assuming) in hospice, he still wanted to get together with Benz owners, but his body gave out before his will to get together did. His final words to me were: NEVER by a car from Kaleb. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: you should share it with all. -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090812/ab 4d0254/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate frames
Son of a...!! At least they have to issue warnings until 2010. There goes my Mercedes frame from the dealership. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate frames Indiana has a similar law. I had to remove my SpongeBob Squarepants frame from my 2001 Altima because it obscured the state name. They have this posted all over the BMV offices of late, too. Dan --- On Fri, 7/31/09, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] License plate frames To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:19 PM NC legislature just passed a bill outlawing license plate frames that obscure state name and/or expiration date, etc., many of which I've seen recently. Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090731/26 d354dc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?
Chris, Have you come across anything for a W114/W115 yet, other than the grille frame? Tarek -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:30 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value? I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay #). Retail is $2,079. No idea what they really go for. I have another one (bit different 100-826-52-52) as well. Someone is offering me $600 for both. Thoughts? Thanks, Chris 1985 300SD 244K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140 wheels on 126? Kaleb?
The bolt pattern is still 5X112mm; however, the size of the lug bolt is
larger diameter on the W140. The W123, W124, W126 and W210 all share the
same bolt size.
In addition, the offset is something to worry about too, as John said.
TE
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of John Freer
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 wheels on 126? Kaleb?
Nope. Offset is something like 55 vs 25 and I understand the bolt pattern or
something is different.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
Will the stock wheels from an early 140 ('93) fit a 126? These are
16, 8 hole, look just like late 124 wheels but I don't know the
offset.
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Re: [MBZ] 140 wheels on 126? Kaleb?
When my previous statement referred specifically to bolt diameter, I figured
it was inferred that size in my subsequent statement referred to bolt
diameter as well. Thanks for the clarification.
TE
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 wheels on 126? Kaleb?
I got told that the bolts on the 126 SEL wheels (the flat slotted ones)
needed to be longer than the bundt bolts on the SD, and ordered some.
You might want to check on which bolts go with which wheels, even for
the same chassis. Same diameter but different length, different size
then.
--R
TE wrote:
The bolt pattern is still 5X112mm; however, the size of the lug bolt is
larger diameter on the W140. The W123, W124, W126 and W210 all share the
same bolt size.
In addition, the offset is something to worry about too, as John said.
TE
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of John Freer
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 wheels on 126? Kaleb?
Nope. Offset is something like 55 vs 25 and I understand the bolt pattern
or
something is different.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
Will the stock wheels from an early 140 ('93) fit a 126? These are
16, 8 hole, look just like late 124 wheels but I don't know the
offset.
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes 560SL Restored - $16000
Probably because short of an act of God, potential buyers are not allowed to enter Kiawah Island. Same thing with my girlfriends place across the way on Seabrook Island. No pass? No entry. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:06 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 1987 Mercedes 560SL Restored - $16000 I saw this car a coupla weeks ago at the car show, it was pretty nice, but not $16k worth. Saw a woman at the grocery store the other day with a car very similar, her husband bought if for her new for her anniversary 20some years ago, it was in mint condition, she wouldn't sell it but probably would go for less if it was for sale given prices these days. But it wasn't Ivana's... This guy has been trying to sell this thing for months, no takers. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1188265727.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 4-speed W116 project still available
Where are you located? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 4-speed W116 project still available The seller of the Euro 280S that I posted about a couple of weeks ago (stick shift, carbed M110, manual climate control, etc.), is getting desperate and is now offering it to me for $800. I hate to see the thing go to the scrap metal vultures, or even to the U-Pull-It where it will very likely be trashed unless the right people see it first and carefully remove the Euro goodies (lights, bumpers, seat heaters, two-tone horn switch, etc.). But I just don't have the room or the time for yet another project. Any takers? I am half-seriously thinking about buying it and fixing the rusty fenders and rocker panels with some quick and dirty welding (I live in tractor country, lots of people around here are eager to do small welding jobs for cash). Then I could either swap in a 617 engine---it bolts right up to the M110's engine mounts, flywheel, etc., right?---or maybe the M103 and A/T as a unit from my POS 300E (leaving the 4-speed, clutch, etc. from the W116 to resell to someone interested in converting their 300SD to manual). Somebody stop me. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Scheisse For Sale
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have the following items for sale: (2) W126 European Headlight Switch Bezels each complete with knob, locking nut, both mounting tabs and the vacuum level adjustment switch (one bezel has markings for fog lights, other one doesn't) (2) W126 European Warning Triangle Mounting Brackets (gently used, no broken tabs) (2) W123 W124 W140 W201 European Warning Triangle Mounting Brackets (brand new from dealership) (1) Pair C140 Halogen Headlights complete with mounting hardware and washer motors (glass in good shape, 100% working, no broken tabs) Cleaning out the garage and I figured I'd offer this stuff here before I put it on eBay. Inquire for pictures and pricing if interested. TE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090512/16efe4ce/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
