Re: [MBZ] OT chip

[Walt Zarnoch]

Frederick,

There is one place that has them in stock stateside, according to TI's site.

http://www.ti.com/general/docs/usercart.tsp?action=checkout&distributorId=19&localeId=EN&elementType=PR&quantityType=reg&elementId=BQ24721RHBR&apUserId=C_EN_128456956

http://www.rocelec.com/

Walt

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Frederick Moir  wrote:
> Tim, et al.
> That is the IC required, from Hong Kong in about a month.
> I do buy older misused Laptops on ebay for the family and others. Mostly 
> Toshiba.
> The Toshibas have a penchant for no power on, so, it is time to feed the 
> elephant's child.
>  It'll all end in tears, I'm sure; still, maybe fortune will favor the bold.
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
>>
>> From: Tim C 
>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT chip
>>
>>On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>>
>>> Tim.
>>> That would defeat the purpose of learning about BGA repair on an
>>> expendable laptop.
>>> Old I am, dead I'm not, yet.
>>
>>
>>Just pointing out that ebay has the expendable laptops you are looking for,
>>that have hopefully failed in other ways than yours so you can remove parts
>>from B and put them in A. :)
>>
>>BGAs are harder; I was expecting a power IC to be a TSOP or the like so you
>>would be able to take it off and put it back on without too much trouble.
>>
>>Best,
>>Tim
>>
>>PS ebay also occasionally has such things, interestingly this one is not a
>>BGA but maybe it's what you need?
>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-TI-BQ24721-BQ24721C-IC-for-NOTEBOOK-CHARGER-A13-/260742327437
>>
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: The Joy of Mercedes Repairs

[Walt Zarnoch]

Yep, goes to show that mythbusters is purely entertainment. :P

I could go on for hours about how they botched stuff...

Walt

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Fmiser  wrote:
>> Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>
>> IIRC Mythbusters sucked up a half gallon of gas into a
>> shopvac, and left it run for quite a while without any "boom".
>
> I personally know someone who used a car wash vacuum cleaner to
> clean up a gasoline spill in the truck.  It exploded.  No one
> was seriously injured, but the establishment pursued collecting
> damages. The fellow was not much sharper than a marble.
>
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: The Joy of Mercedes Repairs

[Walt Zarnoch]

IIRC Mythbusters sucked up a half gallon of gas into a shopvac, and
left it run for quite a while without any "boom".

Diesel, being harder to ignite due to the vapor pressure difference,
should at least be as safe.

Still gives me the heebie jeebies thinking about sucking that stuff up though...

Walt

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> Invest in an electronic fuel pump from your local FLAPS. Low pressure cheap
> one is good enough, a few feet of fuel hose, tap into the fuel delivery
> hose from the tank where it comes out in engine bay. 12V pump will run on
> your battery charger [you have one don't you?] plug it all together, put
> the outlet hose from the pump in suitable container and pump the tank
> dry THEN... open the bottom if the strainer is clogged... reverse
> the pump and pump about a gallon of fresh fuel INTO the tank to "blow" the
> crud away from the strainer... then pump it down... should end up with very
> little fuel in the tank that way... worth the cost of owning an electric
> pump.
>
> FWIW,
> Grant...
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>
>> Uh, no.  Sparks and such from the sucker (if electric-powered) might not
>>> play nice with diesel fuel.  One of those cheap hand-powered siphon pumps
>>> would be fine.
>>>
>>
>> AC vacuum pumps (Robinaire, etc.) don't spark.  Actual piston/diapragm
>> vacum pumps don't spark.  Only a shop-vac vacuum source sparks.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mobil wifi hotspot connections

[Walt Zarnoch]

I've got 4G-LTE through Big Red, and I get 14Mb down, 5Mb up.
That's indoors on the edge of service (1 bar, can't find a REAL dB value...).

I've tethered on 3G since before android was born, and it was ok, just
not as fast or useable as cable is.
The big issue is ping time and delay, or dropped packets.

You also need an unlimited plan (grandfathered in! WOOHOO!), or you
end up going over the 2GB cap quite quick.

Walt

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> Some carriers specifically prohibit tethering in their contracts. It's not 
> difficult to detect, either.
>
> Dan
>
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Fmiser  wrote:
>
>>> Gerry Archer wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone had experience with mobile wifi hotspot
>>> connections?  Any problems?
>>> Daughter say Verizon in this area is poor.
>>> Just received first smartphone, an iPhone 3g-s, which has
>>> mobile connection to
>>> Verizon, but haven't been able to figure out how to use it as
>>> a  connection to a laptop.in order to cancel DSL.
>>
>> It's called "tethering" when you use a 'phone as a modem to
>> access the 'phones data plan from a computer.  Last I know,
>> iPhone would not allow it unless "jailbroken".
>>
>> There are USB "aircards" that access the cell data network for
>> computers.  Usually a 5 to 8 GB limit per month.
>>
>> --   Philip
>>
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Re: [MBZ] S/N ratio issues with list

[Walt Zarnoch]

The post was mostly in jest, because I found myself with
30-odd-quintillion emails that were one to three person replies with
subject changes. :P

The joke being that the S/N was the volume of content in each thread
vs the number of threads .

Guess I should have said content to thread ratio, but S/N was what
leapt to mind.
Us EE's have weird humor I guess...

Sorry if any of it came across wrong.


Walt, who just finished putting an A/C unit into place in the bedroom
window to combat the brain addling effects.

PS:
Am I the only one who tends to sleep 4 to 5 hours longer when the room
gets to be 80-ish degrees?
Or fall asleep when it gets warm in general?

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Craig  wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:07:08 -0400 Walt Zarnoch 
> wrote:
>
>> Am I the only one noticing the signal to noise taking a nose dive?
>
> A lot of the recent traffic has been my employment situation and some
> arguing between Roger and Hendrik about attribution.
>
> I did just now post progress on the E320 coolant leak problem.
>
>
>> Must be the dog days of summer addling our brains. :P
>
> Just wait until August!  :-)
>
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[MBZ] S/N ratio issues with list

[Walt Zarnoch]

Am I the only one noticing the signal to noise taking a nose dive?

Must be the dog days of summer addling our brains. :P

Walt

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Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

[Walt Zarnoch]

My guess is that the old alt wasn't putting much of a load on the system,
and the old belt was on it's last legs.

New alternator allows full charge current and puts more stress on belt,
belt snaps.

Long story short, replace belt and then see if it happens again.

Worst case, keep a spare belt in the trunk in case it snaps again.

Walt
On Jun 16, 2012 9:26 AM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:

> My '95 E300 with OM606 engine has decided to eat the serpentine belt. The
> only recent change is the new (rebuilt) alternator. How do I determine if
> the alternator is the culprit?
>
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Re: [MBZ] coil packs

[Walt Zarnoch]

Bingo.

The one problem is that if either plug/wire set has issues, both have
issues.

It's a waste spark setup and is quite cost effective.

Walt
On Jun 15, 2012 7:51 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> Alex Chamberlain  writes:
>
> > A common arrangement on sixes--the V-6 in my '93 Isuzu Trooper is the
> same
> > way.  During any given crankshaft revolution one plug is firing at the
> > start of the power stroke and one at the start of the exhaust stroke.  I
> > don't really understand the point of the latter unless it helps emissions
> > by igniting some leftover hydrocarbons that would otherwise hit the cat
> > unburnt.
>
> It's just cheaper to set up 3 coils than 6?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: In praise of misfits

[Walt Zarnoch]

Yep, not being able to concentrate can be a good thing.
As can the hyper-focusing when you need to get things done.
The procrastination, I could live without though...

It's who I am though, and I don't feel like changing it at all.

Walt
On Jun 8, 2012 5:46 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

>
>  Why business needs people with Asperger's syndrome, attention-deficit
>> disorder and dyslexia
>>
>> IN 1956 William Whyte argued in his bestseller, "The Organisation Man",
>> that companies were so in love with "well-rounded" executives that they
>> fought a "fight against genius". Today many suffer from the opposite
>> prejudice. Software firms gobble up anti-social geeks. Hedge funds hoover
>> up equally oddball quants. Hollywood bends over backwards to accommodate
>> the whims of creatives. And policymakers look to rule-breaking
>> entrepreneurs to create jobs. Unlike the school playground, the marketplace
>> is kind to misfits.
>> Recruiters have noticed that the mental qualities that make a good
>> computer programmer resemble those that might get you diagnosed with
>> Asperger's syndrome: an obsessive interest in narrow subjects; a passion
>> for numbers, patterns and machines; an addiction to repetitive tasks; and a
>> lack of sensitivity to social cues. Some joke that the internet was
>> invented by and for people who are "on the spectrum", as they put it in the
>> Valley. Online, you can communicate without the ordeal of meeting people.
>>
>> Wired magazine once called it "the Geek Syndrome". Speaking of internet
>> firms founded in the past decade, Peter Thiel, an early Facebook investor,
>> told the New Yorker that: "The people who run them are sort of autistic."
>> Yishan Wong, an ex-Facebooker, wrote that Mark Zuckerberg, the founder, has
>> "a touch of Asperger's", in that "he does not provide much active feedback
>> or confirmation that he is listening to you." Craig Newmark, the founder of
>> Craigslist, says he finds the symptoms of Asperger's "uncomfortably
>> familiar" when he hears them listed.
>> Similar traits are common in the upper reaches of finance. The quants
>> have taken over from the preppies. The hero of Michael Lewis's book "The
>> Big Short", Michael Burry, a hedge-fund manager, is a loner who wrote a
>> stockmarket blog as a hobby while he was studying to be a doctor. He
>> attracted so much attention from money managers that he quit medicine to
>> start his own hedge fund, Scion Capital. After noticing that there was
>> something awry with the mortgage market, he made a killing betting that it
>> would crash. "The one guy that I could trust in the middle of this crisis,"
>> Mr Lewis told National Public Radio, "was this fellow with Asperger's and a
>> glass eye."
>> Entrepreneurs also display a striking number of mental oddities. Julie
>> Login of Cass Business School surveyed a group of entrepreneurs and found
>> that 35% of them said that they suffered from dyslexia, compared with 10%
>> of the population as a whole and 1% of professional managers. Prominent
>> dyslexics include the founders of Ford, General Electric, IBM and IKEA, not
>> to mention more recent successes such as Charles Schwab (the founder of a
>> stockbroker), Richard Branson (the Virgin Group), John Chambers (Cisco) and
>> Steve Jobs (Apple). There are many possible explanations for this.
>> Dyslexics learn how to delegate tasks early (getting other people to do
>> their homework, for example). They gravitate to activities that require few
>> formal qualifications and demand little reading or writing.
>> Attention-deficit disorder (ADD) is another entrepreneur-friendly
>> affliction: people who cannot focus on one thing for long can be disastrous
>> employees but founts of new ideas. Some studies suggest that people with
>> ADD are six times more likely than average to end up running their own
>> businesses. David Neeleman, the founder of JetBlue, a budget airline, says:
>> "My ADD brain naturally searches for better ways of doing things. With the
>> disorganisation, procrastination, inability to focus and all the other bad
>> things that come with ADD, there also come creativity and the ability to
>> take risks." Paul Orfalea, the founder of Kinko's and a hotch-potch of
>> businesses since, has both ADD and dyslexia. "I get bored easily; that is a
>> great motivator," he once said. "I think everybody should have dyslexia and
>> ADD."
>> Where does that leave the old-fashioned organisation man? He will do just
>> fine. The more companies hire brilliant mavericks, the more they need
>> sensible managers to keep the company grounded. Someone has to ensure that
>> dull but necessary tasks are done. Someone has to charm customers (and
>> perhaps lawmakers). This task is best done by those who don't give the
>> impression that they think normal people are stupid. (Sheryl Sandberg, Mr
>> Zuckerberg's deputy, does this rather well for Facebook.) Many start-ups
>> are saved from disaster only by replacing the founders wit

Re: [MBZ] OT use number 93 for a dead cat

[Walt Zarnoch]

He did it the hard way. Just strap buttered toast to the back of the cat
and toss it out a window. It'll never fall.

Walt
On Jun 7, 2012 3:10 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:

> that is totally cool.  Best use of a cat in ages.
>
> clay
>
> On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8EXkiicOo&feature=related
> > Spose flying it over the dog pound would be kind of cruel.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who will not be turning his cat into a helicopter
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

[Walt Zarnoch]

Sounds like the initial short-out was dealt with by the pump-out, but the
water that wicked back up the lines is finally causing them to corrode away
to nothing.

Be sure to isolate it as a line issue first, by unhooking everything else
after the phone drop, putting modem as first device.

That may mean a long phone cord out to the box as a check.

I know Verizon will try to prove the problem is in your house wiring, since
then they don't have to fix it.

Walt
On Jun 7, 2012 11:47 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:

> I have about 1000ft of buried cable, coming off buried cable (and the
> switch building is maybe a coupla hundred yards from the box out on the
> road by the driveway), which might be ready for replacement.
>  Interestingly, a few months back when it went wonky during some big rains,
> the next day or two there were 3 trucks out in the middle of the road
> pumping water out of manholes, and things were fine for quite awhile.
>
> --R
>
> On 6/7/12 11:30 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
>> On Jun 6, 2012, at 10:23 PM, "Rich Thomas"> constructivity.net >  wrote:
>>
>>  How does it work in the rain?  My DSL gets wonky every time it rains,
>>> like this morning.  Rain stopped, DSL working fine now.
>>>
>>
>> Do you have buried service, overhead drop, or utility poles with your
>> service buried? I had the same problem and there was a nick in the wire's
>> insulation at the pole. Customer service was of NO help, until I looked on
>> the web site and got the VP's email addy. I told him if my service didn't
>> get fixed, I was going to switch to cable. I got an apology email, the
>> region managers cell number, and it was repaired within two hours.
>>  Complaining works, if you bitch tactfully, and to the right person.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Golf and Benz

[Walt Zarnoch]

That may work...

Just don't tripple-book the shuttle, only airlines and hotels can get away
with that nonsense...

Walt
On Jun 5, 2012 10:32 PM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:

> So in a coupla months the Kiawah swells will be putting on some sort of
> golf tournament.  The only road in/out is my road, 30k people per day
> coming in and out, they are figuring maybe 10k or 12k cars per day.  There
> are 2 2-lane roads on and off the island.  This will be a total goat...
>
> But, the interesting part I see in the paper today is " Also, as an
> official PGA patron, Mercedes-Benz will provide free parking in the public
> parking area for any spectator arriving in a Mercedes-Benz."
>
> http://www.postandcourier.com/**article/20120605/PC16/**
> 120609566/1165/pga-officials-**unveil-traffic-plan-for-2012-**
> golf-tournament-at-kiawah
>
> Lessee, I got 3 Benzes sitting around here, wondering how I could parlay
> that into some sort of shuttle service...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Merritt's car

[Walt Zarnoch]

Fraud lawsuit.

Walt
On Jun 4, 2012 10:54 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And the winner is.
>
> / are: Peter and Brian
>
> It appears it was the coil.
>
> Apparently the farstone place replaced the coil and charged him for it,
> but then took the new coil off  and put the old one back on  (or did a
> snears auto practice and never changed it)  So he thought it had a new
> coil, but it didn't.  I have not heard the whole story, but the new coil
> was put on , and it runs ok now.
>
>
>
>>
>> from MB list:
>>
>> 1.  Has the fuel filter been replaced?  Sounds like possibly a low fuel
>> pressure issue.
>> Michael Canfield
>>
>> 2.  Coil.
>>
>> Or coils, depending.
>>
>> Also check fuel pump pressure and delivery.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] was Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates now golf ball catch

[Walt Zarnoch]

Fs: AMG with slight hail damage.

Walt
On Jun 3, 2012 9:34 PM, "Barry Stark"  wrote:

> H -
> I was surfing after following Gerry's link and found this...
>
>
> http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1076623_mercedes-breaks-world-record-by-c
> atching-golf-ball-with-sls-amg
>
>
>
>
> > http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023454_toyota-prius-taxi-tops-
> > 34mi-dispels-battery-myth
>
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Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination

[Walt Zarnoch]

Microsoft has/had an "automotive version" of windows.
I saw it on a timeline of windows versions.

Walt
On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> "Gerry Archer"  writes:
>
> > Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g)
>
> Ha.  ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to
> lunch.  OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for
> something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with
> life and property at stake.
>
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Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination

[Walt Zarnoch]

Those sounds are the FIRST thing to get turned off when I do a windows
install.

They make me want to cut speaker wires...

Sometimes I even replace them with blank files...

Walt
On Jun 3, 2012 4:53 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>
> > And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my
> > house has never had a touch screen calibration or even the
> > dignity of the windows sounds being changed...
>
> I wonder how many folks find the default MS Win sounds to be
> "comforting" because they are familiar.
>
> Some people reportedly even like elevator music!!
>
> **shudder**
>
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Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination

[Walt Zarnoch]

I guess I didn't provide enough evidence of the sarcasm and funniness that
I was trying to convey, haha. :) :D :p

I'm an EE with ME background and embedded systems experience, so at least
on paper I could do some of the work.

I'd likely devise my own control circuitry or hijack the existing to do my
will... It has been shown that a Prius without the nany-limits on starting
torque can do an impressive 0-60 time.

And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my house has never
had a touch screen calibration or even the dignity of the windows sounds
being changed...

Walt
On Jun 3, 2012 4:03 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> By your reasoning, you and the other computer engineers shouldn't be able
> to diagnose and fix mechanical problems on cars, yet you usually can.  If
> you bought a used hybrid, I don't think it
> would be long before you were fixing it.  Several banks are using Windows
> to run their ATMs.
> Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g)
> Gerry
>
> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>
>> Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine.
>> He's an engineer after all! :P
>> Walt
>>
>
>  On Jun 3, 2012 1:46 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> > ...I'm surprised that some of the computer professionals on the list
>>> > haven't bought a hybrid since they could probably diagnose and fix a
>>> highly computerized car.
>>> Apples and kumquats.
>>> RLE
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination

[Walt Zarnoch]

Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine.

He's an engineer after all! :P

Walt
On Jun 3, 2012 1:46 AM,  wrote:

> > ...I'm surprised that some of the computer professionals on the list
> > haven't bought a hybrid since they could probably diagnose and fix a
> highly
> > computerized car.
> >
> Apples and kumquats.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph

[Walt Zarnoch]

Raises hand...

Walt
On Jun 1, 2012 11:41 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

>
> Gee, who knew a Hyundai could go that fast??
>
> Randy
>
> On 31/05/2012 7:33 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
>
>> The police of South Korea investigate the reasons of a bizarre car
>> accident, which occurred to the latest model of Hyundai Sonata. The car
>> began accelerating against the driver's will and crashed into another car
>> at the speed of 129 km/hsnip
>>
>> http://english.pravda.ru/news/**hotspots/17-05-2012/121154-**
>> hyundai_sonata-0/
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Re: [MBZ] electric pumps

[Walt Zarnoch]

BUT AN LED WILL NEVER BURN OUT!

Sorry, tongue-in-cheek comment, I've had to replace my fair share of the
things. :p

Walt
On May 31, 2012 12:50 AM, "Brian Toscano"  wrote:

> Yeah but what happens when the CEL light has been on so long it burns out?
> :-)
>
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM,  wrote:
>
> > > ...But yeah hope they have a big loud alarm in case of failure, not
> > > just a gauge that most people probably don't really look at very
> often...
> > >
> > Oil pressure gauges have been gone for more than ten years and when a
> major
> > problem surfaces the instrument panel turns bright red and displays a
> > warning that even the most oblivious cannot ignore.
> >
> > RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Selectric

[Walt Zarnoch]

It has been said that a BSOD used to do the same thing, if one was
privileged enough to know how to decipher it.

I need to brush up on GNU/Linux core dump, would help fir when Sid starts
getting angry.

Walt
On May 30, 2012 10:12 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I liked line printers spewing out stacks and stacks of wide paper with all
> sorts of indecipherable stuff, esp when you got a core dump when your
> program bombed.  A woman at NASA actually taught me how to read core dumps
> and figure out what bit of code did the nasty, so I could go back and fix
> it quickly.  I used this newfound skill with various other students when I
> got back to school, and was a god to them when I did it.  It was nothing
> short of magic.  I could read it and sort out the problem in about 30sec
> after they had taken hours to try to debug their code.  Unfortunately it
> never helped me get, um, female companionship, just respect with the dudes.
>
> --R
>
> On 5/30/12 9:54 PM, Craig wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 May 2012 21:38:12 -0400 Allan Streib
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Peter Frederick  writes:
>>>
>>>  But we are talking mid 70's.  When Xerox came up with the Diablo daisy
 wheel, all the Selectric terminals went away, too much  maintenance.

>>> I remember the diablos.  Sounded like a gatling gun when they were in
>>> action.
>>>
>> Laser printers were a dramatic improvement.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

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They have the Equus now and had the XG300/350 which was based on a Sonata.

Walt
On May 30, 2012 10:09 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> As I was saying before I hit the Send button prematurely
>
> Didn't Hyundai have a high end sedan that looked a lot like an S class MB?
>
> I recall looking at one a while back and being suitably impressed. It
> listed for like $25k and was loaded at that price.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 30, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:
>
> > Bite thy tongue, some of us love our Hyundai's with as much passion as a
> > Benz. ;)
> >
> > The lexus on the other hand... eew
> >
> > Walt, who loves his 2000 tibby
> > On May 29, 2012 7:17 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Those sixties caddies were beautiful. Look what's happened to the luxury
> >> auto market. We have nasty Hyundai Genesis, Lexus, etc.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On May 29, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >>
> >> I should add that I am a closet Caddy person. One of my early cars was a
> >> "pristen" 1962 Fleetwood that was truly a land yacht in every sense of
> the
> >> word. Beautiful car, got good mileage despite weighing nearly 6000
> pounds
> >> wet.
> >>
> >> The coupes never appealed to me, but this is still a neat car.
> >>
> >> I have always wanted an early to mid 60s 75 Series limo with a divider
> >> window
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >>
> >> What is "pristen"?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Rick Knoble  wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a
> >> car worthy of a barrister, no?
> >>
> >> http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html
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Re: [MBZ] Car For Donald Snook

[Walt Zarnoch]

Bite thy tongue, some of us love our Hyundai's with as much passion as a
Benz. ;)

The lexus on the other hand... eew

Walt, who loves his 2000 tibby
On May 29, 2012 7:17 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> Those sixties caddies were beautiful. Look what's happened to the luxury
> auto market. We have nasty Hyundai Genesis, Lexus, etc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> I should add that I am a closet Caddy person. One of my early cars was a
> "pristen" 1962 Fleetwood that was truly a land yacht in every sense of the
> word. Beautiful car, got good mileage despite weighing nearly 6000 pounds
> wet.
>
> The coupes never appealed to me, but this is still a neat car.
>
> I have always wanted an early to mid 60s 75 Series limo with a divider
> window
>
> Dan
>
> Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> What is "pristen"?
>
> Dan
>
> Rick Knoble  wrote:
>
> Okay. It is a two door, which makes the toddler seat a pain. But it is a
> car worthy of a barrister, no?
>
> http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3045080533.html
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

[Walt Zarnoch]

And weird oddities with voip/video conferencing as well.

Sure beats the alternative of dialup though! Bee booop de der de durrr
SCRE KSHHHSHSHSHHSHSHHSHSH...

Walt
On May 29, 2012 12:42 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Tue, 29 May 2012 00:22:01 -0400 Walt Zarnoch 
> wrote:
>
> > .73 second ping.
> >
> > Ouch.
>
> No on-line role-playing games. Some annoyance when using banking sites
> and others that take a lot of going back-and-forth.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Speedtest.net Mobile Result

[Walt Zarnoch]

.73 second ping.

Ouch.

Walt
On May 29, 2012 12:21 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:48:13 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
>
> > Test Date: May 28, 2012 9:33 PM
> > Connection Type: Wifi
> > Server: Bixby, OK
> > Download: 14.47 Mbps
> > Upload: 2.82 Mbps
> > Ping: 731 ms
>
> I'll bet you are REALLY pleased!!!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap first year Porsche 928

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Supercharger bump... er, no thanks.
That ain't a mopar.

Walt
On May 27, 2012 8:31 PM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> I believe 5-speeds were uncommon in those cars. All the tacky ricer crowd
> goo-gas would have to go and it would have to be re-painted a more tasteful
> color.
>
> Rick
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 27, 2012, at 6:37 PM, "Alex Chamberlain" 
> wrote:
>
> > OTOH, it does need a clutch
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Re: [MBZ] 124 dash removal tips

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A catchy name for Jim Cathey's test refrigerant. ;)

Walt
On May 27, 2012 7:56 PM, "Brian Toscano"  wrote:

> What is JC-Test?
>
> I usually pressure test with nitrogen and vacuum test with a vacuum pump...
> then put in the correct amount of refrigerant. If flushing is necessary,
> they make flush guns for that.
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Walt Zarnoch 
> wrote:
>
> > I think the FSM has the make-up numbers for common things like condenser
> > replacement and whatnot.
> >
> > I'd personally do a system flush with acetone to clean out any acid
> > buildup, then refill oil and use JC-Test for the gas.
> >
> > Walt
> > On May 27, 2012 4:19 PM, "Max"  wrote:
> >
> > > Brian Toscano  wrote:
> > >
> > > >If you keep running low on refrigerant it will take oil with it and
> > > >possibly precipitate compressor replacement as well
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Yes, any thoughts on how to calculate the make-up oil quantity?
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Re: [MBZ] 124 dash removal tips

[Walt Zarnoch]

I think the FSM has the make-up numbers for common things like condenser
replacement and whatnot.

I'd personally do a system flush with acetone to clean out any acid
buildup, then refill oil and use JC-Test for the gas.

Walt
On May 27, 2012 4:19 PM, "Max"  wrote:

> Brian Toscano  wrote:
>
> >If you keep running low on refrigerant it will take oil with it and
> >possibly precipitate compressor replacement as well
> >
> >
> Yes, any thoughts on how to calculate the make-up oil quantity?
> --
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Re: [MBZ] OT - # 1 grandson

[Walt Zarnoch]

Save the car, get a 21 speed.

It has been said a pedal bike can get across DC quicker than a car can.

They also take up less storage space than the car. ;)

Walt
On May 27, 2012 7:01 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> # 1 grndson finished his junior year in college in France few days ago.
>  Since then, he's been to Milan, Vilnius, Lithuania (Russian female friend
> from Moscow met him there for weekend), Kiev, Ukraine, and day trips to
> Cannes Film Festival and Monaco Grand Prix.  I told 'im, again, "By the
> time I was your age, I had been all the way to Raleigh on a bus."  He'll be
> coming home Thurs., 31st; 'reporting immediately to work as summer intern
> at Afghan Embassy in DC.  'Says he'll be glad to get back to Chapel Hill
> for senior year at UNC-CH.
>
> BTW, should he take his car ('85 BMW 318i) to DC?  I'm thinking probably
> not.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Statewide list bites the dust

[Walt Zarnoch]

Forgot that bit!

They must also be RARE EURO SPEC! With US DOT lights...

Walt
On May 27, 2012 12:15 AM, "Kevin Kraly"  wrote:

> and 40MPG of course!
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1977 240D 316Kmi, Liesel
>
> -Original Message- From: Walt Zarnoch
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:42 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Statewide list bites the dust
>
> Sounds like we need KalebsList.
>
> Only MB's for $500 and under, blowing ICE COLD FROSTY AIR!
>
> Walt
> On May 26, 2012 8:27 PM, "Alex Chamberlain" 
> wrote:
>
>  On May 26, 2012 4:47 PM, "Walt Zarnoch"  wrote:
>> >
>>
>> > FFS, what does craplist gain from segregating people to one city at a
>> time
>> > anyways?
>> >
>>
>> It's part of their mission to encourage people to buy locally.  They
>> simply
>> refuse to admit that they have become the de facto worldwide Internet
>> classifieds--the modern equivalent of the old misc.forsale Usenet
>> hierarchy--and that local has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Also, eBay owns a big chunk of CL and doesn't want anything cutting into
>> their profits on dealer car sales.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Statewide list bites the dust

[Walt Zarnoch]

Sounds like we need KalebsList.

Only MB's for $500 and under, blowing ICE COLD FROSTY AIR!

Walt
On May 26, 2012 8:27 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> On May 26, 2012 4:47 PM, "Walt Zarnoch"  wrote:
> >
>
> > FFS, what does craplist gain from segregating people to one city at a
> time
> > anyways?
> >
>
> It's part of their mission to encourage people to buy locally.  They simply
> refuse to admit that they have become the de facto worldwide Internet
> classifieds--the modern equivalent of the old misc.forsale Usenet
> hierarchy--and that local has nothing to do with it.
>
> Also, eBay owns a big chunk of CL and doesn't want anything cutting into
> their profits on dealer car sales.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Statewide list bites the dust

[Walt Zarnoch]

I wonder if they'll sue the person who made the firefox extension or
greasemonkey scripts that automate searches...

Or all the android app creators?

FFS, what does craplist gain from segregating people to one city at a time
anyways?

Walt
On May 26, 2012 7:41 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:27:24 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Craig list nazis strike again:
> >
> > "Craigslist has given Statewidelist.com a CEASE AND DESIST so until
> > further notice statewidelist.com will not be online. If you would
> > like to friend us on facebook to stay informed or tell us what you
> > think about this.  click here "
> >
> > Bummer...
>
> Maybe Craigslist users that are inconvenienced should set up a
> class-action lawsuit. Where's Snook when you need him?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Statewide list bites the dust

[Walt Zarnoch]

%@$#&$%@#%#%#$#&37384&-&*';"/!?!;!;%)!!!

Walt
On May 26, 2012 7:27 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Craig list nazis strike again:
>
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Re: [MBZ] Which AC leak sealer to use?

[Walt Zarnoch]

It sometimes trashes expansion valves/orifice plates, but mostly works ok.

It's really a "I just want it to work for a season quickly, and on the
cheap" fix.

I say go with a dye test and see if it isn't the condenser leaking from a
rock ding or something simpler.

Walt
On May 25, 2012 6:02 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:40:56 -0400 Max  wrote:
>
> > Brian Toscano  wrote:
> >
> > >The best leak sealer to to replace failed o-rings and parts with holes
> > >in
> > >them.
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, but some one mentioned using the "sealer in a can" in a Ford
> > recently, which might save me a lot of time and expense.
>
> Will "sealer in a can" clog things like radiator sealer will clog heater
> cores?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking

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If it's more of a "the car is for work and work only" thing, then just
track the car using a cheapie walmart android phone and google latitude.

If it's to see where he is at all times, irrespective of cell coverage,
just get a satellite beacon ankle bracelet. At least then he'll know he's
being tracked, and it'd be a psychological deterrent...

Are you letting him see your location at all times as well?

Guess I'm torn both ways on the ethics of this, based on what is more
important to know location of.

The easiest would likely be to have a long father-son talk and set the
ground rules, zero tolerance,  for the agreement to have the vehicle for
work.

Or have him pay his own insurance, registration, and gas, for his own
vehicle that he bought at fair market value, so he doesn't see it as "cool,
transportation at the cost of pops knowing where he thinks I am".

Walt
On May 25, 2012 5:01 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> Yes I need to keep track of him.  If this does not work I will look for
> one of those deals you stick on the car.
>
> On 5/24/2012 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:
>
>> if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that
>> no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his
>> *phone* is,...:-*
>>
>>
>> cheers!
>> e
>>
>> On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote:
>>
>>> Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car
>>> back in order to get back and forth to work.  But I want to track where he
>>> is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go.  Just
>>> did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free.
>>>  Anybody tried that?  Any other ideas?  Maybe I should put this on my wifes
>>> phone also.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Where to mount a cup holder?

[Walt Zarnoch]

Amen to that.

I find that trying to sip anything at all at 60 is a recipe for "fun", even
when you're a passenger.

Then again, I'm also one of the only 20 somethings I know who refuses to
talk on the phone  while driving, txt while driving, keep the GPS screen
on, blah blah...

Guess it comes from driving stick shift and having to actually look at the
terrain to know when to shift instead of just planting right foot and then
mashing the brake...

Walt
On May 25, 2012 10:34 PM, "ernest breakfield" <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

> in the kitchen or your office, where you're supposed to be drinking coffee?
>
>perhaps Mercedes didn't put cup holders in most of their cars because
> they expected you to be busy with the serious business of driving,...
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
> On 25/May/12 18:19, Max wrote:
>
>> Two cup holders actually, in my '95 E300.  Griots item 77830.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

[Walt Zarnoch]

I'm against people who go 10 to 15 under without their hazard flashers on,
which is required in NY.
If said people break 80 when you try to pass them because of it, it
compounds the matter.

Do I fall back and deal with a jerk who's going to keep brake checking me
at every opportunity, or keep the foot to the floor in third and blow
around them to end the issue?

Walt
On May 22, 2012 12:27 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> I am getting lost on this thread.
>
> Andrew is against speeding?
>
> Walt is not??
>
> There must be lots of places where 80 mph is reasonably legitimate. The
> speed limit in North Dakota between the Cdn border and Grand Forks is 75
> mph. If I run the limit, I generally get passed but most of these folks are
> probably running about 80 mph which does not seem all that excessive in the
> circumstances.
>
> Randy
>
> On 22/05/2012 11:03 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>
>> So yo never, ever, EVER pass?
>> I routinely have to hit over the speed limit when some bozo doing 40 in a
>> 55 decides to become "Mr butthurt racer!" and floors it as I go to pass.
>> Same idiots get MASSIVELY pissed at me when I go the speed limit in the 30
>> zone after the 55... they want to go 45...
>>
>> Mind you this is after 5 miles of "maybe they have a reason to go that
>> slow?" thinking by me.
>>
>> Walt
>> On May 22, 2012 11:31 AM, "andrew 
>> strasfogel">
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  No, I meant too slow.  I am against excessive speeding to burn off
>>> carbon, or for any other reason for that matter, unless you're at the
>>> track...
>>>
>>> Anderw
>>> 1983 300TD
>>> 1985 300TD
>>> 1985 300CD (SWMBO mobile)
>>>
>>> On 5/22/12, Rick Knoble  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2012, at 9:12 AM, "andrew strasfogel">>> com >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  have never heard of a 123 turbo engine that expired prematurely
>>>>> (whatever that means -<  300K miles?) because the owner drove it too
>>>>> slowly.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you mean too fast? I imagine carbon, from being driven too slowly
>>>> has
>>>> taken more than a few diesel MB's prematurely.
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

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So yo never, ever, EVER pass?
I routinely have to hit over the speed limit when some bozo doing 40 in a
55 decides to become "Mr butthurt racer!" and floors it as I go to pass.
Same idiots get MASSIVELY pissed at me when I go the speed limit in the 30
zone after the 55... they want to go 45...

Mind you this is after 5 miles of "maybe they have a reason to go that
slow?" thinking by me.

Walt
On May 22, 2012 11:31 AM, "andrew strasfogel"  wrote:

> No, I meant too slow.  I am against excessive speeding to burn off
> carbon, or for any other reason for that matter, unless you're at the
> track...
>
> Anderw
> 1983 300TD
> 1985 300TD
> 1985 300CD (SWMBO mobile)
>
> On 5/22/12, Rick Knoble  wrote:
> > On May 22, 2012, at 9:12 AM, "andrew strasfogel" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> have never heard of a 123 turbo engine that expired prematurely
> >> (whatever that means - < 300K miles?) because the owner drove it too
> >> slowly.
> >
> >
> > Did you mean too fast? I imagine carbon, from being driven too slowly has
> > taken more than a few diesel MB's prematurely.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] continuing saga of the broken W116 door latch handle

[Walt Zarnoch]

I'll check for 123's next time I'm at the yard.

Walt
On May 21, 2012 11:15 PM, "Max"  wrote:

> Great work, sorry I don't have a 123 handle...
> --
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Good-bye folks

[Walt Zarnoch]

I know hotmail isn't really as standards compliant as it should be, so that
may be part of the issue.

I say get another separate email account just for the list, as Allan
suggested.

Walt
On May 21, 2012 1:35 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> Consider opening up a gmail account and subscribing to the list that way.
>  I'm guessing hotmail is rendering the TOC as an attachment when it really
> should be inline.
>
> Allan
>
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012, at 04:26 PM, G. M. Brown wrote:
> >
> > Since I've been receiving the okiebenz digests since before Easter 2012
> with the TOCs as attachments, which are a royal pain to deal with so I've
> just been deleting all of them, and neither Kaleb nor a local compu-repair
> guy seem to know what the problem is and I'm certainly not expecting any
> response from notes sent to the MS/Hotmail folks, I've decided to
> unsubscribe from the list.  This is a difficult decision, as I've got two
> old MB diesels and I've been on the list since the fellow in Canada was
> running it, I see no other alternative unless someone on the list might
> know what the problem is.  If so, please respond to me off-list as I'll be
> unsubscribing to the list in a few minutes.
> > Thanx all.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Crazedlist gone?

[Walt Zarnoch]

Never knew it did job listings.

Walt
On May 16, 2012 1:15 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 May 2012 22:58:06 -0400 Walt Zarnoch 
> wrote:
>
> > Statewidelist.com
>
> It only gives job postings for the last 2 - 3 days.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crazedlist gone?

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Statewidelist.com
On May 15, 2012 10:54 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> http://www.crazedlist.org/**index.cgi
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Re: [MBZ] The American dream in an automobile

[Walt Zarnoch]

He can send you some seeds if you want.

Walt
On May 15, 2012 12:20 AM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> On May 14, 2012, at 9:06 PM, "Gerry Archer" 
> wrote:
>
> > The creeping commuters of California and Connecticut will become
> > the eagles of the sky; landing quickly on the roofs of the corporations
> > where they work.  The future looks bright.
>
>
> I have no clue what medications the doctors have you on, but I need a
> prescription. :-)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty exhaust bolts.

[Walt Zarnoch]

That's what he said!

Walt, who couldn't resist the temptation.
On May 14, 2012 8:03 AM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> It had steel nuts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
> DId it have the original copper nuts, or were they replaced with steel
> ones? I've been amazed at the ease of removing the copper nuts from bolts
> that I was sure would break. Not finger loose by any means, but no where
> near as hard as I expected due to the condition of the threads they were
> going over.
>
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  >wrote:
>
> It took me a few hours to remove the two bolts that attach the header pipe
> to  the exhaust manifold. The first one came loose after mutiple penetrant
> applications- over a few days. The second was really stubborn- it was
> starting to come but ultimately snapped which is fine as the bolt just
> passes through the flanges- not threaded thru anything. Overall was a
> moderate PITA. How do mechanics do this so quickly? Impact guns?
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 78, Issue 67

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It's not always about the speed of the shift, it's about the full control a
manual box gives compared to an auto. :)

Walt, who is in the minority that can not "drive" an automatic transmission
vehicle.
On May 13, 2012 10:21 PM,  wrote:

> > The more a car does on it's own the better off we all are in my
> > opinion...
> >
> "Except shift gears."
>
> i hope you are not under the impression that you can shift faster and
> smoother that a DSG because you cannot.
>
> It is more fun in certain cars, I admit. Not a notchy
> broomstick-in-a-bucket-of-rocks MB, I must add.
>
> RLE
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 150mph

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My cars tires are rated faster than the speed cut.

Then again, you can't get Falken tires in the style I have unless they are
Z rated (149+ mph)... :/

Walt, who is dreading tire change time...
On May 12, 2012 1:07 AM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> The miscreants stolen Hertz Camaro had 4 flat tires... the cop car had cop
> car tires speed rated for high speed chases.
>
> I raise sincere doubt the rental Camaro would do 150. Could I see the chase
> video on that with the GPS screen link?
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM,  wrote:
>
> > > ...I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard
> reset
> > > on my
> > > car AT 150MPH...
> > >
> > Speaking of 150mph, just yesterday morning a miscreant stole a 2012 Hertz
> > Camaro at Sea-Tac airport and took off southbound. He was spotted down in
> > Thurston County by a Deputy who reported that he was behind the Camaro at
> > 150mph. He was finally stopped by spike strips.
> >
> > I wonder what kind of tires the two cars had on them.
> >
> > RLE
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Walt Zarnoch]

I love the people that blink their signal once, in the opposite direction,
then swoop in like a bird of prey...

Walt
On May 11, 2012 7:24 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

> It's not the kernal that's the problem - it's the drivers in most cases.
> Then comes the third party software. No, I don't want software driving me
> around at more than 25 mph.
>
> I ws almost run off the road today by a young blond driving a Honda, and
> she wasn't even talking on the cell phone- just oblivious to ALL the cars
> around her on the four lane 70 mph section of I-35.
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib 
> wrote:
>
> > The core of Android is just a stripped down/customized Linux.  It should
> > be reasonably stable.
> >
> > I would guess that any "robot cars" would have a failure behavior of
> "fall
> > back to manual control" which admittedly might not work out too well
> > depending on how closely the human "driver" is paying attention.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > On Fri, May 11, 2012, at 09:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
> > > Really?  I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a
> phonelol.
> >  I
> > > don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on
> my
> > > car in order to use it.
> > >   I AM impressed with the Android OS.  It seems to work great for
> > > everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my
> > only
> > > internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed
> reset
> > > twice in the last couple months.  Otherwise it has been trouble free.
>  I
> > > still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life.
> > >
> > > Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off

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No problem, it's what the list is for. ;)

Walt
On May 11, 2012 11:59 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> That sounds like the one.  Good idea about sealing off the
> plastic.  I have some of the blue painters tape from a previous
> wax job.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>
> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>
>
> From the 3M site:
>
> " 3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, Yellow, 19 oz net wt/539 g, 6 per case
> Aerosol contact adhesive designed for bonding vinyl tops, heavyweight
> liners and hood silencer pads where high strength and heat resistance are
> needed."
>
> Looks like the super trim is what I was thinking of!
>
> I think the 90 is the industrial tile/construction/glue trap version of
> it... :P
>
> I'd use painters tape to seal off the edges of the plastic,just in case.
> An extra 10 or so minutes vs an hour or more cleaning nuke proof adhesive
> off of stuff.
> Then again, I'm a bit paranoid about my paint...
>
> Walt
> On May 11, 2012 11:36 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
>
>  I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090.  Could that be it?
>> Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive.
>> When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I
>> draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and
>> pushed it up over the wipers and windshield.  It looks like that
>> arrangement
>> would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure
>> about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the
>> paint.
>> Gerry
>>
>> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>>
>>
>>  After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray
>> adhesive
>>
>>> that you'll be looking for.
>>>
>>> Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it...
>>>
>>> Walt
>>> On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks.  I'll try that.
>>>> Gerry.off to town.
>>>>
>>>> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Snip.
>>>>
>>>>  Got to set the trap.  Need a new rabbits foot.
>>>>> /snip
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits!
>>>>>
>>>>> Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything
>>>>> to
>>>>> most anything, but I forget the actual number...
>>>>>
>>>>> Walt
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off

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>From the 3M site:

" 3M™ Super Trim Adhesive, 08090, Yellow, 19 oz net wt/539 g, 6 per case
Aerosol contact adhesive designed for bonding vinyl tops, heavyweight
liners and hood silencer pads where high strength and heat resistance are
needed."

Looks like the super trim is what I was thinking of!

I think the 90 is the industrial tile/construction/glue trap version of
it... :P

I'd use painters tape to seal off the edges of the plastic,just in case.
An extra 10 or so minutes vs an hour or more cleaning nuke proof adhesive
off of stuff.
Then again, I'm a bit paranoid about my paint...

Walt
On May 11, 2012 11:36 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090.  Could that be it?
> Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive.
> When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I
> draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and
> pushed it up over the wipers and windshield.  It looks like that
> arrangement
> would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure
> about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the
> paint.
> Gerry
>
> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>
>
>  After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive
>> that you'll be looking for.
>>
>> Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it...
>>
>> Walt
>> On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thanks.  I'll try that.
>>> Gerry.off to town.
>>>
>>> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>>>
>>>
>>>  Snip.
>>>
>>>> Got to set the trap.  Need a new rabbits foot.
>>>> /snip
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits!
>>>>
>>>> Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P
>>>>
>>>> I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to
>>>> most anything, but I forget the actual number...
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off

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After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive
that you'll be looking for.

Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it...

Walt
On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

>
> Thanks.  I'll try that.
> Gerry.....off to town.
>
> From: "Walt Zarnoch" 
>
>
>  Snip.
>> Got to set the trap.  Need a new rabbits foot.
>> /snip
>>
>> I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits!
>>
>> Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P
>>
>> I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to
>> most anything, but I forget the actual number...
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

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If it can wait a day, I just use one of the many rainbow table services
(loginrecovery free edition, etc) and get the original pass.

Or I boot the NTHack floppy/cd and do some registry manipulation! :D

Walt
On May 11, 2012 9:31 AM, "Benz Hogs"  wrote:

> It's rather easy to blank a Windoze password.  I have a bootable USB thumb
> drive that I use for that
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi)
>
> On 4/23/2012 9:45 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ed, and all.
>>
>> The consensus is to install the winders server or install it as a VM on
>> a lightweight host. Now all I need is time to git'er done.
>>
>> The company closed, building was sold. New owner will be making similar
>> product so some info on the existing computers might be useful, so it is
>> good to keep that info available. Plan is to use Acronis product to make
>> an image of each existing desktop, Save to dvd and server. Wipe drives,
>> and do clean installs of XP and software. On hearty enough machines,
>> install VM with the old machine restored with its image.
>>
>> So far all I have managed to do is crack passwords and look at what is
>> there. Today I did the accounting machine. Being a manufacturing
>> business, this one computer was basically
>> the heat of the companies info. I found the administrator was ___
>> Yep, blank password. Wow! I am guessing someone else already broke it.
>>
>> I have seen lots of things that make it little wonder the business went
>> under.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Plenty of people have pointed out SAMBA, and SAMBA makes a great drop in
>>> replacement for a Windows SMB file server environment. However, I think
>>> everyone has conveniently glossed over what you are actually asking for,
>>> group policies.
>>>
>>> I work for a medium business with multiple locations with an eclectic mix
>>> of operating systems. I'm here to tell you that our Windows desktops talk
>>> to a Windows server specifically for group policy reasons. Our *NIX
>>> servers, regardless of what flavor, don't talk to the desktops directly.
>>>
>>> GPO works via an implicit trust relationship between server and
>>> workstation. *NIX has a lot of Windows networking replacement parts, but
>>> there is no way to implement the implicit trust relationship that is
>>> required to perform Active Directory group policy decisions. There *are*
>>> ways to force them from *NIX, but they are all very cludgy.
>>>
>>> To sum up, if you are installing this for a client that wants and Active
>>> Directory trusted domain, install Windows Server and save yourself the
>>> headache.
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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

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So who is at fault if you're drunk in a self driving car?

Walt
On May 11, 2012 9:51 AM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> Relax... it's a windows based system... it couldn't crash . ;))
> Guess the coming EMP from solar flair isn't a concern either...
>
> I'll keep driving my indirect injection non-computer diesel as long as I
> can get parts and find fuel... tyvm
>
> Remember,, to err is human... to forgive is divine... try suing the
> computer next time the car behind rams you at a stoplight.  Lawyers should
> love this system.. google has really deep pockets... for now..
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Benz Hogs 
> wrote:
>
> > So what happens when the OS lags or crashes?  Does the car just die and
> > leave you temporarily stranded?  That won't be pleasant if it happens in
> > the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking
> > traffic.  I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the
> > current Android.
> >
> > Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> > '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi)
> >
> > On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:
> >
> >> Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada,
> >> which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving
> >> cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback
> >>
> >> The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use
> >> public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination
> >> of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds.
> >> Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars
> >> "along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City
> >> and the busy Las Vegas Strip", they said in a statement.
> >> It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for
> >> autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March.
> >> The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now
> >> be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying
> >> a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left
> side.
> >>
> >> Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive
> >> themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military
> >> firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric
> >> Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human
> >> drivers is a "bug".
> >>
> >> "It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars," he said in 2010 as
> >> Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University.
> >>
> >> As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws
> >> to allow autonomous cars on its roads.
> >> "The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error,"
> >> California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced
> >> autonomous car legislation.
> >> "Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous
> >> vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and
> >> operating the vehicle more safely."
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Exhaust fell off

[Walt Zarnoch]

Snip.
Got to set the trap.  Need a new rabbits foot.
/snip

I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits!

Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P

I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to
most anything, but I forget the actual number...

Walt
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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Walt Zarnoch]

I say get a $35 HID kit and slap it in.
I have had zero problems with the 6 or so kits I've bought for myself and
friends, and it sure beats changing bulbs every few months!

You'll want a 6000K color temp range to mimic the "white but not blue"
light if an over-watt halogen.

Walt
On May 10, 2012 8:34 PM, "Hendrik & Fay"  wrote:

> High beam is not really the problem, it's just low beam that could do with
> a bit more light.
> Perhaps I'll measure the voltage drop and see what the go is.
>
> Hendrik
> who is bright enough
>
> On 10/05/12 23:49, Michael Canfield wrote:
>
>> I say the headlight circuit is under-built.  Like Jim said, the voltage
>> drop is ridiculous on high beam.  If properly designed there would not be
>> so much drop.  Seems a high load on small wires would be bad, right?  So
>> adding a relay should help.  No matter how much you spend on bulbs of this
>> type and that you are not going to get any more out of them if you don't
>> supply them with enough power.  You should be able to make the bulb out
>> circuit sense the relay instead of the bulb.  May have to add a resistor
>> to
>> the line before the relay to get the sensor to see the right current draw
>> for the bulbs.
>>   Don't get your low beams too bright or you will have other drivers
>> flashing their lights at her compounding the confusion.
>>
>> Good luck, Mike
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Walt Zarnoch]

I've been stuck behind a few on the thruway...

"Rolling roadblock on line one, rolling roadblock on line one..."

Going 60 in the fast lane of a 65 marked road...

Walt
On May 9, 2012 9:07 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> You've clearly never driven a Prius...
>
> At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400
> From: Walt Zarnoch 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> "Open pod bay doors..."
>
> On an underpowered prius, sure.
> On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!
>
> Walt
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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

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"Open pod bay doors..."

On an underpowered prius, sure.
On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!

Walt
On May 9, 2012 7:44 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada,
> which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip.  The self-driving
> cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback
>
> The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use
> public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of
> mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds.
> Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars
> "along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and
> the busy Las Vegas Strip", they said in a statement.
> It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for
> autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March.
> The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be
> allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a
> distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side.
>
> Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive
> themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military
> firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric
> Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human
> drivers is a "bug".
>
> "It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars," he said in 2010 as
> Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University.
>
> As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws
> to allow autonomous cars on its roads.
> "The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error,"
> California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced
> autonomous car legislation.
> "Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous
> vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and
> operating the vehicle more safely."
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/**
> Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.html
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Re: [MBZ] strange oil pool

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Walt
On May 7, 2012 1:36 PM, "Walt Zarnoch"  wrote:

> I always thought it was a H2G2 reference myself.
> On May 7, 2012 1:33 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:
>
>> LT Don.
>>
>> I think he works with mentally and/or emotionally-challenged patients;
>> therefore, the name.  I commend him.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <
>> apchamberl...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] strange oil pool
>>
>>
>>  On May 6, 2012 7:35 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don Willis = LT Don in IA. OK Don = Don Norris in OK
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Now I'm even more confused.  Which one of you is Wonko the Sane?
>>>
>>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] strange oil pool

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I always thought it was a H2G2 reference myself.
On May 7, 2012 1:33 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> LT Don.
>
> I think he works with mentally and/or emotionally-challenged patients;
> therefore, the name.  I commend him.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <
> apchamberl...@gmail.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] strange oil pool
>
>
>  On May 6, 2012 7:35 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Don Willis = LT Don in IA. OK Don = Don Norris in OK
>>>
>>>
>> Now I'm even more confused.  Which one of you is Wonko the Sane?
>>
>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Jeep heater hoses

[Walt Zarnoch]

Mcparts is fine, i have a 8 foot length of their fuel line serving as a
power steering return line on my other car, and the heater hose holds up to
green death just fine.

Walt
On May 6, 2012 10:32 PM, "Brian Toscano"  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Since domestic car manufacturers don't continue to support their vehicles
> as well as Mercedes, it is not surprising to me the that molded heater
> hoses that go between the thermostat housing/water pump and heater core of
> my Jeep are NLA.  It looks like the replacement is standard heater hose cut
> to length (or just leave them because they last forever ;^))
>
> What is the best source for heater hoses?
>
> Looking at McParts, I see I can buy either the standard lengths of heater
> hose and cut to length, or splurge on some steel braided lines.  Is McParts
> rubber good enough or can I do better?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

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Buy a cheap-ish HID kit, in the 6K color temp range.

Lots of light, and it won't look blue.

Walt
On May 6, 2012 9:22 PM, "Hendrik & Fay"  wrote:

> My daughter has her learners and as part of the process she needs to do 15
> hours of night driving.
> As some of you will probably know the stock lights in a 124 are not that
> bright and I think me daughter notices this more so than me.
> To try and retify this somewhat I am planning on installing some Philips
> aftermarked bulbs. Apparently while the Osrams are cheaper they are not as
> good or last as long.
> I have a choice of three http://www.invisionsales.com/**
> lighting/philips-globes/**headlight-upgrades/see-more
> obviously the +100 XtremeVision ones are the go.
> Anyone have any experience with these brighter bulbs.
> BTW for all the fans out there http://www.youtube.com/watch?**
> v=uPuKoqu6kMk 
>
> Hendrik
> who says: "thank you very much"
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gifts

[Walt Zarnoch]

Dinner for two at a smaller establishment, not necessarily the "most
expensive" place, followed by a chick flick/funny movie, then maybe a box
of chocolates at home?

Throwing an idea out there.

Walt
On May 6, 2012 7:05 PM, "Tim C"  wrote:

> ...are not my strong point.
>
> This year SWMBO is both graduating and celebrating Mothers' Day next
> weekend.  Aside from "sparkle" and "chlorophyll", any creative ideas?
>
> With Amazon prime it's never last minute, I hope... :)
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
> curious how results will differ between banned and mbz
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Re: [MBZ] Today's BAT

[Walt Zarnoch]

Likely all the engine bay dress-up with no interior restoration efforts
made.

It seems the norm now, go fast, good bay, sod for interior.

Hm, green interior... Maybe that would be marketable?

Walt
On May 6, 2012 10:18 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> If I had a place to work on it, I could restore the wood. That wood be the
> easy part.
>
> Sadly, it looks like a badly done conversion, for some reason. There is
> something that looks tacky and amateurish about. I can't put a finger on
> it, just a gut feelkng.
>
> Dan
>
> Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> >Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> Anybody see the Rolls shooting brake on today's BAT?
> >
> >Nice.
> >Got $25k, or whatever it takes to meet reserve, plus 100k or so to
> restore it?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] oh, those wheels

[Walt Zarnoch]

205/40ZR17 Falkens.

Came with the car when I bought it.

I fell in love with the steering response...

Walt
On May 6, 2012 9:35 AM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>
>> I actually like the gloss black/polished lip/blue car combo.
>>
>> The fact that I bought my car with a set pre-installed has nothing to do
>> with it though. :p
>>
>
> Are the sidewalls thicker than rubber bands on yours?
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Re: [MBZ] oh, those wheels

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I actually like the gloss black/polished lip/blue car combo.

The fact that I bought my car with a set pre-installed has nothing to do
with it though. :p

Walt
On May 6, 2012 9:25 AM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes

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I'm blond, so sunburn is always the enemy...

By open, I mean tilted up, not fully retracted.
I usually only open it fully on clear moonlit nights. It's peaceful.

Walt
 On May 5, 2012 9:11 PM, "David & Kristin Gilmore" <
dandkgilm...@frontier.com> wrote:

> At 06:33 PM 5/5/2012, Walt wrote:
>
>> I was once pf the same mind, but I now find myself driving with the
>> sunroof
>> open all the time.
>>
>> Less wind noise than windows down, and why not use it if it works just
>> fine?
>>
>
>   (snip)
>
>Young man, worry about the sun.
>
> I have spent a lot of time outdoors and now, in my 70s, there are
> crusty little pre-cancerous bits popping up on my face, hands, and ears.
> A specialist uses liquid nitrogen to burn them off periodically.  The skin
> gets thinner and more delicate.
>
> I guess if you are lucky you die of something else first.  My wife's
> uncle, a surf fisherman, was so badly badly eaten up she said toward the
> end it was difficult to look at him.
>
>
> Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
>
>
> The evidence suggests optimism is widespread, stubborn, and costly.
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Re: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes

[Walt Zarnoch]

I was once pf the same mind, but I now find myself driving with the sunroof
open all the time.

Less wind noise than windows down, and why not use it if it works just fine?

I do know MB and Hyundai (forgive me for putting them together...)  both
add quite a bit of extra bracing to their sunroof versions, in my Tiburon
there is at least one more cross brace on the roof, and the opening is
fort-knox reinforced.

Walt
On May 5, 2012 12:56 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> And I hope you continue to enjoy it.  'Having grown with none, I enjoy
> having automatic 'nitionin' in mine too much to mess around with a hole in
> the roof.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes
>
>
> I open the manual sunroof on my 240D all the time!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:
>
> I've had one of mine for 17 years, the other one for 8 years; I've never
> opened either one of 'em - 'don't plan to.  I think SWMBO has, though,
> before I did some "remedial" training.  'Can't understand - some of the
> world's supposedly finest engineers building a perfectly good steel,
> waterproof top and, then, cutting a big, rectangular hole in it.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "OK Don" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes
>
>
> My rule is to NEVER open the sunroof on a used Mercedes - it's just begging
> for trouble.
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:52 PM,  wrote:
>
> I don't, but I just spent $900.00 on parts for mine. I am going to have
> little chat with Tarek on Banned. They knew the roof was messed up. Oh
> well. Live and learn.
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitch Haley 
> Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 18:30:56
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] S210 sunroof woes
>
> I assumed my '99 E320 wagon had an improved popup glass sunroof, not
> susceptible
> to the problems that make me afraid to use the sunroof in a 124 or newer
> 201.
>
> Today, whatever mechanism moves the sunroof doesn't seem to be working on
> the
> left side. I opened it and it went halfway as usual, then when I hit the
> switch
> again to open it the rest of the way it jammed. When I got out of the car I
> could see that it wasn't opened evenly, and I managed to shut it by
> shoving the
> left side forward by hand as I worked the switch. But when it closed, the
> right
> side rose up flush with the roof and left rear corner stayed down. I took
> the
> cover off the emergency crank hole and can see it turn when the motor
> runs, so
> the crank won't help me any.
>
> How do I operate the mechanism that raises the left rear corner of the roof
> panel, so I can get it sealed and leave it that way until I'm ready (if
> ever) to
> rebuild the roof?
>
> Does anybody have the 210 roof .pdf file?
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT CL idiot "I have closed my business and am, liquefying my equipment"

[Walt Zarnoch]

If by pills you mean pop top bottles... ;)

Walt

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
> See the medicine is working, well that and Roger is being a good boy and
> agreeing with me on everything.
>
> Hendrik
> who is due for his midday bunch of pills
>
>
> On 05/05/12 03:10, Gerry Archer wrote:
>>
>> I miss the "rawhides" between Roger and Hendrick, and who was it,
>> Dieselhead?  Some
>> of the retorts were brilliant.
>> Gerry
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Grease

[Walt Zarnoch]

The harbor freight digi-scale is dead nuts in sync with the post office
scale, or at least the unit I bought is.

For the price, it's awesome.

Walt
On May 4, 2012 8:58 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> In 2008 I had a wheel bearing fail on my '85 190D. My Indy replaced it and
> I asked him to repack the other one. He didn't "it hasn't failed" and a
> couple months later when we were all in go-slow mode because of an ice
> storm the other one failed.
>
> I was livid, here we're in this ice storm, I'm driving the 190D because it
> was full of diesel fuel and I can't get gasoline for the truck and the
> *&%$#! thing is down because he didn't repack the other bearing.
>
> Fortunately I could get the bearings at my local Car Quest. I veeery
> carefully reused the existing seal and got back on the road the next day.
> That was the one when I realized I can't do a good enough job setting
> runout without a dial indicator, the bearing was good for about 6 months
> before it started making unhappy noises. Now with a relatively inexpensive
> dial indicator from Harbor Freight I can do them what will last as long as
> the grease does.
>
> I really like the green MB grease in the squeeze tube but I've used the
> pink Mobil 1 too. I don't weigh it, I pack the bearings and then stuff some
> inside the hub. I've been thinking about getting a scale though, not sure
> what to get...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 18:57:55 +
> From: buymbpa...@gmail.com
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS OT CL idiot "I  am,liquefying my equipment"
>NOW Grease
> Message-ID:
>
>  
> <1696065469-1336157876-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1830734658-@b25.c26.bise6.blackberry
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>
> But it should be done in pairs because when one first fails they both have
> the same milage on them. I have never understood the one side at a time
> theory. After 36 years of doing this I still have customers that want to
> buy 1 brake disc, please.
>
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Funny shipping

[Walt Zarnoch]

Could be caliper seals, you won't really notice the fluid since it gets
flung off while driving.

My 2 cents,

Walt
On May 4, 2012 8:27 PM, "Kevin Kraly"  wrote:

> Yes, the same, slightly flexible plastic strips to which I was referring.
> My car is "right on the line" too, perfect way to describe it!  There are
> just a few more good things going for it than bad, pretty neglected through
> the years but has a nice interior and pretty straight body despite the
> slight rocker/floor rust and some rust behind the rear wheels.  Right now,
> I'm trying to chase down a slight brake fluid leak.  I'm suspecting that
> it's leaking into the booster, no way to know for sure other than that
> there's no evidence of fluid leaking onto the ground when pumping the
> pedal. Now that I have another pressure bleeder nearly set up, I'm going to
> blead and pressurize the system and see if we can figure out where it's
> leaking. To give you an idea of the size of the leak, the reservoir was
> enpty after a few times out with the car.
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
> 1977 240D 316Kmi, Liesel
>
> -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:14 AM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funny shipping
>
> To be clear these are the black plastic strips on top of the aluminium
> strips.
>
> The price would be gag inducing on a jalopy but as my car is right on the
> line I figured to go for it.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:08:15 -0700
> From: "Kevin Kraly" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funny shipping
> Message-ID: <**9701EA9A1E2A4695844D6F6E2E405A**A0@chellePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>   reply-type=original
>
> My trim strips for the top of the rain gutters on my 240D arrived today.
>
> Glad to hear that those strips are still available!  The ones on my 240D
> are
> bent, and one of them is even broken in one spot.
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] WAS OT CL idiot "I am, liquefying my equipment" NOW Grease

[Walt Zarnoch]

I do know that on CNC machines, you MUST use the grease that is specified,
or there are big repercussions in wear and waranty status.

Walt
On May 4, 2012 12:18 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> How about a grease thread?
>
> I know there are those who insist one must use special MB grease for wheel
> bearings and a different special grease for sun roofs.
>
> How about really off topic? Do you have a boat with a Mercruiser I/O? If
> so, do you buy Mercury grease - 2-4-C or whatever they call it, or do you
> just use "marine" grease, or do you use basic automotive grease?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 02/05/2012 10:35 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>
>> Alles.
>> My apologies for creating a monster.
>> At least it's no about oil.
>>
>>  Fred Moir
>> Lynn MA
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] E diesel

[Walt Zarnoch]

The furthest thing from my mind would be economy if I were buying a new
Mercedes.

The ride is paramount. I want it PLANTED on the road. No exceptions.

Must have brakes capable of stopping entire car when an idiot cuts in front
of you out their driveway, that are predictable, and stay that way.

Must also have enough power to comfortably get up to speed.

I think marketing sunk their teeth into this a bit too much, but the
engineering is on the right track.
Electric used as speed boost, small battery, and a diesel power plant are
good in my book.

My musings.

Walt.
On May 3, 2012 1:21 AM,  wrote:

> > Mercedes has gone for economy with its 2.2-litre four-cylinder
> > turbodiesel
> > providing the motive force and headline figures of 67.3mpg...snip
> >
> > Everything, including the shoe-box-size 0.8kWh lithium-ion battery, fits
> > under the bonnet, so there's no loss of cabin or boot space...snip
> >
> >
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/carreviews/9214962/Mercedes-Benz-E300-B
> > lueTEC-review.html..
> >
> What an awful car..rock hard tires, noisy gruff engine, understeer. I would
> not pay that kind of money for four cylinders, particularly this one. Also,
> the new C250 is getting mediocre reviews because of it's 4-cylinder engine
> hauling around 3600 lbs.
>
> RLE
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT CL idiot "I have closed my business and am liquefying my equipment"

[Walt Zarnoch]

One must wonder about the miscibility of these subject fluidic data
streams...

Walt
On May 2, 2012 4:09 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Wed, 2 May 2012 15:40:49 -0400 Walt Zarnoch 
> wrote:
>
> > I raise you distillation and sputtering.
>
> I think we are loosing sight of the specific gravity of the situation.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > Walt
> > On May 2, 2012 3:39 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sublime.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On May 2, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > >
> > > Better than concocting something.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On May 2, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Craig  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:34:15 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't compound the matter, please.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > At least, though, he should be encouraged to come up with a solution.
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Frederick Moir 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Chemists?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT CL idiot "I have closed my business and am liquefying my equipment"

[Walt Zarnoch]

I raise you distillation and sputtering.

Walt
On May 2, 2012 3:39 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> Sublime.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> Better than concocting something.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Craig  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 May 2012 14:34:15 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> Don't compound the matter, please.
>
> Dan
>
> At least, though, he should be encouraged to come up with a solution.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Frederick Moir 
> wrote:
>
> Chemists?
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[MBZ] Idiotic traffic lights. Was: UPS Diesel or floating gas?

[Walt Zarnoch]

One morning on the way home from work, I had to sit for 10 minutes at a red
light, "no right on red" sign, no traffic at all, nobody but me at 3:00 am.

I just shut the engine off and waited. Eventually a taxi went down the main
drag and the light tripped.

Would have said "sod the right on red", but the cops were out in full force
as well... :/

Walt
On Apr 28, 2012 2:01 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

> I have always wondered how much fuel could be saved by making traffic
> lights
> smarter.  The main benefits of hybrids are regenerative breaking and no
> idle
> fuel consumption both only a factor in traffic.  How many times have you
> had
> to stop and idle at a red light when there was no need?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Max
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:30 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?
>
> G Mann  wrote:
>
> >One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented
> >a
> >very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable
> >of
>
> Sounds very cool, I'd wondered when an IVT  design would really take over
> market share.
>
> Please keep us posted as you can.  The fuel consumption savings would
> affect
> all surface transportation, not just the trucking industry.
>
> A great feature would be kits to retrofit OTR and other heavy trucks.
>
>
> --
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

[Walt Zarnoch]

http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/HOWTO#Implementing_Group_Policies_.28GPO.29_in_a_Samba4_domain

Hope that helps!

Walt

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ed Booher  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora.  Anybody familiar
>> with this OS for a server?
>>
>> I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$
>> Server 2000/2003/2008.  If so, I can learn to use it.  Otherwise I can put
>> 2003R2 on it.
>>
>> Its intended use will be data storage for a small business with 4 or 5
>> computers (XP) and same number of users.  Fortunately none of the computers
>> I have looked at so far are Wissta.
>>
>> I would like to use the GPOs to redirect the users' "My Documents" to the
>> server, among other things.  (such as severely restricting what users can
>> do.)
>>
>
> Plenty of people have pointed out SAMBA, and SAMBA makes a great drop in
> replacement for a Windows SMB file server environment. However, I think
> everyone has conveniently glossed over what you are actually asking for,
> group policies.
>
> I work for a medium business with multiple locations with an eclectic mix
> of operating systems. I'm here to tell you that our Windows desktops talk
> to a Windows server specifically for group policy reasons. Our *NIX
> servers, regardless of what flavor, don't talk to the desktops directly.
>
> GPO works via an implicit trust relationship between server and
> workstation. *NIX has a lot of Windows networking replacement parts, but
> there is no way to implement the implicit trust relationship that is
> required to perform Active Directory group policy decisions. There *are*
> ways to force them from *NIX, but they are all very cludgy.
>
> To sum up, if you are installing this for a client that wants and Active
> Directory trusted domain, install Windows Server and save yourself the
> headache.
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Re: [MBZ] OT fedora server

[Walt Zarnoch]

SAMBA should do most of that, iirc it did AD stuff.

Sorry I can't be much more help, I just tolerate windows now, much prefer
the penguin.

Walt
On Apr 16, 2012 11:32 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  picked up a dell 2650 with a fresh install of fedora.  Anybody familiar
> with this OS for a server?
>
> I am wondering if it has something like AD group policies similar to M$
> Server 2000/2003/2008.  If so, I can learn to use it.  Otherwise I can put
> 2003R2 on it.
>
> Its intended use will be data storage for a small business with 4 or 5
> computers (XP) and same number of users.  Fortunately none of the computers
> I have looked at so far are Wissta.
>
> I would like to use the GPOs to redirect the users' "My Documents" to the
> server, among other things.  (such as severely restricting what users can
> do.)
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary

[Walt Zarnoch]

So it was all pictures of the posterior sections of happy people?

Walt
On Apr 16, 2012 11:30 PM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> Haha. She's not gay! It was a gay-ass art fair thing!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> I am trying to wrap my head around the fact your girlfriend is gay.  I
> can't quite figure the deal out.  The possibilities boggle...
>
> --R
>
> On 4/16/12 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> I'm planning on coming. Missed it last yr because I had to help the gf in
> DC with some gay art fair thing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Yard Lighting Quandary

[Walt Zarnoch]

Get some 12V LED light strips, a small battery, and a harbor freight solar
panel charger.

Should light things up nicely, and it's fully self contained. :)

Walt
On Apr 15, 2012 2:05 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I have a backyard that borders a very deep wooded area, and at night it is
> darker than, well, dark.
>
> I would like to have some sort of lighting out there that would light at
> least a portion of the area at night for convenience.  I don't need it for
> anything specific, nor would I need it on for any length of time.
>
> Here's the rub:  I have no electrical sources available anywhere near my
> back wall.  The roof is pitched very little here, and the ceilings go
> directly up to the roof joists, so there is no attic access where I might
> have been able to run some wiring.
>
> My AC condenser is out there, but I'm not keen about tapping in to its
> power source.
>
> I looked around at Harbor Freight for something, but the best they have is
> some lame solar/incandescent floodlight that has horrible reviews.
>
> I'm wondering if there might be some sort of solar/LED light(s) out there
> that would do the trick?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating tangents...

[Walt Zarnoch]

Lets talk about puppies! Or maybe nuclear fusion reactors?

I love this list, the tangents make for great stress relief throughout the
day. :)

Walt
On Apr 11, 2012 8:44 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I second that. I hadn't thought of it, but the recycle aspect and the heat
>> and pressure really appeals to my sense of justice.
>>
>> I could see it now, with the modern Hollywood proclivity to sensationalism
>> it would be like the "suvivor show" or "reality TV" in about a month with
>> ratings and sponsors. Perhaps we could have Kim Kardashian fill the host
>> slot or Simon Whatzname.
>>
>> Hmmm,, who could we get for sponsors?  Maybe Depends and some good Pharm
>> company for anti psychotics.
>>
>> Sorry, have to go throw up now,  Ohh ,, that makes me think.. how about a
>> good anti nausea med.
>>
>> All the makings of a commercial success already... it just needs some
>> government grant money to kick start the whole thing. ;)')
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   I am kind of in favor of the breaker used in rendering plants for dead
>>>  animals.  Not near as noisy, very effective, and a little slower.  It is
>>>  environmentally green, because they can be recycled into fertilizer, an
>>>  entirely appropriate use for scum by another four letter word starting
>>> with
>>>
>>  > s.  (tongue in cheek to the same extent as Grant)
>>  >
>>
>
>
> You are sick and twisted.  (TV Show) Great post!
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Re: [MBZ] Water pump leak

[Walt Zarnoch]

Kroil and wait...

Walt, who's snapped off a few fan bolts...
On Apr 8, 2012 12:31 PM, "Michael Canfield"  wrote:

> That is what I thought.  Water pump is off parts car.  Having trouble w/
> over tight fan bolts!
>
> Mike
> On Apr 8, 2012 11:53 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:
>
> > Michael Canfield  writes:
> >
> > > Is a w123 300d water pump prone to leaking if the coolant reservoir is
> > > over full?
> >
> > I am having trouble seeing how the level in the reservoir would have
> > much to do with it.  The whole system is under pressure when hot; if the
> > level is too high it just goes out the overflow tube on the reservoir.
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

[Walt Zarnoch]

Hate to be the guy who buys a car some dumbcrap owned, and gets mistook for
him because of the plates...

Walt
On Apr 7, 2012 1:28 AM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> > As I said earlier, I should've pulled the
> > plate from my 300d, and stuck that on.
>
> And no such shenanigans would be necessary, and nothing bad would have
> happened, if you lived in one of the West Coast states where once a car is
> registered the license plates are associated with that VIN and stay on it
> for good, regardless of who owns it.  As a lifelong resident of Oregon and
> sometimes Washington I find this whole system of "tags go with the seller"
> baffling and illogical.
>
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Re: [MBZ] airplanes

[Walt Zarnoch]

That side row is nice. Nobody next to you at 6:00 am to bug you on the
puddle jump as you recover from your 7+ hour overnight flight.

Walt
On Apr 3, 2012 11:40 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> The last several trips I have made have been in the embrarer planes. I
> kind of like them and like the left side with the single seat
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
> > Craig wrote:
> >
> >> They are using turboprops. I rode in one from Salt Lake City to
> >> Pocatello, ID.
> >> Take along a set of ear plugs.
> >
> > I rode an Embraer 145 jet last month. It wasn't capable of inducing
> hearing damage IMO, but I was certainly surprised at the noise level. Is
> the Dash-8 noisy because it's small, or because of the propellers?
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Losing power - 1983 300TD

[Walt Zarnoch]

Banned...

Walt
On Apr 2, 2012 10:16 AM, "Dimitri Seretakis"  wrote:

> Fupa- a nasty abbreviation I won't elaborate on:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 9:57 AM, andrew strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Wilton.  Until you came to my defense Rich had nearly
> convinced me that I had made a grammatical foe pah.
>
>
> On 4/1/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
> I was just bustin on Andrew
>
> --R
>
> On 4/1/12 7:51 PM, WILTON wrote:
> Yes, but "lent" is also the past tense and past participle of the
> infinitive, to lend.  That's the way it was taught in my 1940s and 50s
> English classes (even listed as such by Mr. Webster) and the way I've
> always used it, 'cept for the biblical/Easter sense, of course.
> 'Seems that "loaned" has in the past few/several years moved into more
> common usage in place of "lent" when referring to a loan in the past.
> 'Don't remember hearing "loaned" so much when referring to a loan in
> the past until several years ago, even though it was evidently also
> acceptable even in my long-ago youth - we NC boys just didn't (I still
> don't) use it.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas"
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing power - 1983 300TD
>
>
> "Loaned"  Lent is something for which you give up something.
>
> If not the filter(s) I would check the boost signal tube going from
> the back of the intake manifold to the ALDA -- take it off at the
> intake manifold and see if there is gunk or goo or crud or schmutz in
> there.
>
> --R
>
> On 4/1/12 1:14 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I lent the 1983 300TD to my son while his Subaru was getting
> overhauled.
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Re: [MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt

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Fins make anything awesome.

Walt
On Apr 2, 2012 8:24 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

> I like the fins best, but probably not in black.
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Hendrik & Fay  >wrote:
>
> > Actually while I am looking at the wagon, why stop at pinstripes.
> > I have thrown together some tuning/styling concepts to inspire you.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who is the style master
> >
> >
> > On 27/03/12 20:17, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Random trivia question: did the wagon come with pinstripes? Just
> >> repainted. I will put them back if they came from the factory.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Karl
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Car breakin

[Walt Zarnoch]

Maybe a nice focused horn and a magnetron to give them some warm feelings?

Walt
On Apr 1, 2012 11:15 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> I've considered remotely controled quad 20mm Gatlin guns up on the
> widow's/captain's walk, but that may take out the cars, too; maybe, a
> zapper ray gun with very fine, pin-point accuracy.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "G Mann" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
>
>
>  Back in 1968 we used a device called a Claymore with a trip wire that was
>> pretty effective at controlling unwanted intruders. There are some
>> downsides I suppose to using those in an urban environment, however after
>> being robbed and ruined with damage to your household, the thought comes
>> to
>> mind that such applications could be "useful".
>>
>> I've toyed with the idea of rigging a tazer to a car in such a way that a
>> thief would simply taze themselves into submission upon contact and that
>> would trigger the car alarm, as a more effective deterrent than simple
>> noise makers.
>>
>> The inventive mind never stops inventing. The criminal mind never stops
>> scheming.
>> In todays world the anti theft device industry sells billions of dollars
>> of
>> devices each year, the police and jail systems cost billions, and we
>> re-capture repeat offenders.
>> In my Grandfathers time they spent 5 minutes and 0.13 cents worth of hemp
>> rope and solved all those issues locally.
>> Gives one the thought, "Did the old guys have it right after all?"
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  In addition to all the "wildlife" cameras, there are cameras that look
>>> like
>>> motion lights but record video to a chip.  The benefit being that they
>>> don't
>>> look like cameras.  Price in the $150 range and you wire them into the
>>> 110
>>> line like a motion light.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**
>>> okiebenz.com ]
>>> On Behalf Of OK Don
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 10:47 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
>>>
>>> A hanger about four lots down from us was broken into last week, a three
>>> bladed prop for a Cessna 210 was stolen, along with hand tools. I'm
>>> thinking a few game motion activated cameras will at least catch them in
>>> action, perhaps get a palte number to boot.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Mine weren't trashed quite that badly, but it is amazing how far and >
>>> into
>>> > what nearly inaccessible places the little blocks, shards and pieces of
>>> > glass went.  The windows just seemed to explode into every part of the
>>> > interior of both cars.
>>> >
>>> > Wilton
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey" > <
>>> ritche...@nc.rr.com>
>>> >
>>> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
>>> > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:55 PM
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car breakin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  I can't go with the "leave it unlocked" philosophy.  They'd probably
>>> break
>>> >> out the windows anyway.  Besides, there are other scenarios >>
>>> (especially
>>> in
>>> >> the country).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=90095.0
>>> <
>>> http://hunting-w
>>> ashington.com/smf/index.php?**topic=90095.0
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >> "When I lived in Italy, I learned to leave my car unlocked, nothing of
>>> >> value
>>> >> inside.  It took two car break-in episodes to learn that.
>>> >> --
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>>> >> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] I'm taking the Voluntary Severance Program

[Walt Zarnoch]

The start of a new beginning.

If you're anything like me, you'll go nuts with the new-found time, and
find other stuff to fill the gap.

Walt
On Mar 30, 2012 12:12 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

> After much prayer about the matter, Shirley and I decided I should take
> the VSP, so I did.
>
> My last day at the Lab will be a week from today, 5 April.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - FLACs and CUE files

[Walt Zarnoch]

I'd try using Audacity to do the conversion, it should obey the CUE file
when converting.

Walt
On Mar 25, 2012 10:47 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Anyone here know anything about FLACs and CUE files?
>
> I just got a FLAC of something from a friend, and while it has a CUE file
> and all the related items, when I attempt to convert it to another format,
> it converts as one big file and not individual tracks.
>
> ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning the driveway - was: Use of synthetic oil in older diesels

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Muriatic acid wash.

Walt
On Mar 22, 2012 8:14 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > > > Rick Knoble wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Driveway cleaning question to follow. :-)
>
> > > Fmiser wrote:
> > >
> > > Why not just let it soak into the gravel?
>
> > Rick Knoble then wrote:
> >
> > It has already soaked... into the concrete. :-(
>
> I was mostly just teasing...  Out here where I am it's a bit of
> a luxury to have a concrete floor in the garage.  But the
> _driveway_ too?  Ooooh!
>
> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

[Walt Zarnoch]

I prefer loctite 518 for my sealing needs.

Walt
On Mar 19, 2012 11:42 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been a fan of the blue permatex in small quantities.  as in put a
> little on your finger and rub it on the surface.  It takes almost none to
> work well.   I have seen frod dealers smear way too much black RTV on
> everything in sight.
>
> Many times the "blue goo" has bailed me out when I needed an extra hand to
> hold a gasket in place, or didn't have a gasket.
>
> I never liked the red stuff because it is not as easy to just rub on a
> minuscule amount.  The good Dr. Booth didn't like any, and on MBs, I rarely
> use any.  I disagree on an outright ban on silicon based sealants.
>
>
>  Marshall always said not to use that stuff.  Guess he was right again.
>> Thanx for pics.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**
>> okiebenz.com ]
>> On Behalf Of Dieselhead
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:35 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL
>>
>> More followup:
>>
>> The photo shows how obstructed the oil passage was with red RTV gunk.
>> still a lot of RTV on the turbo after I pulled a massive amount off.
>> What I pulled off can be seen in the background of the photo with the
>> turbo.  The other photo is a closup of the rtv I pulled off.
>>
>> I know there is intelligent life in Arkieland, but there sure are
>> some stupid ones too.  (Car was from Arkieland)
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Re: [MBZ] Pi

[Walt Zarnoch]

I run in military time, only because I work from 21:00 bar time to 2:00 bar
time, and the resultant sleep schedule puts me in a "is it 7:00 at night,
or in the morning?" predicament...

Walt
On Mar 16, 2012 2:28 AM, "Frank Peele"  wrote:

> Curt,
>
> Ah yes, military time. Once I retired after 30 years of USN service, I
> allowed my time-reckoning to civilianize. Thanks for the welcome aboard!
>
> Frank
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:28 PM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pi
>
> Careful Frank the sticklers will get you!
> Theres a 3.14 1:59 and a 3.14 13:59...
>
> By the way, welcome!
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:02:56 -0700
> From: "Frank Peele" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Subject: [MBZ] Pi
> Message-ID: <003601cd02cd$787076c0$69516440$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Curt said:
> << Every year has 3.14 1:59 >>
>
> Yep, twice!
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank Peele
> Redlands CA
> 72 300SEL 4.5
> 89 300SEL
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Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

[Walt Zarnoch]

The aux pump from a Saturn SL2 is easier to find, and also made by Bosch. ;)

Walt
On Mar 13, 2012 1:42 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> > Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> >
> > My local Pick and Pull gets the occasional W123/W126 diesel in
> > stock.
> >
> > What parts does it make sense to pull and stash to keep on
> > hand for spares?
>
> Well, from off the top of my head, here is a list of parts I
> have used from my parts cars.  Some may be price-prohibitive to
> buy as parts, but they are on the list anyway - you decide.
> Others may already be bad and so of no use pulling.
>
> Door strikes, brake calipers, brake vacuum boost, brake master
> cylinder, injector lines, injectors, SLS suspension pressure
> hose, SLS suspension valve, flasher, instrument panel, seat
> belt, dome light fixture, radiator "overflow" tank (turbo), oil
> fill cap, turn signals/marker light fixtures, "ignition" switch
> key cylinder - with a key, axle shafts, HVAC blower motor, glow
> plug relay, glow plugs, aux coolant pump, block heater cord,
> horn, ACC controller, cruise control amp, fuel gauge sender.
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] source for small electric motors?

[Walt Zarnoch]

Try a hair dryer if it's a metal squirrel cage,  sometimes it just
needs a little heat.

Walt

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
>> Any chance it is repairable?
>> Electric motor shop might fix the one you have.
>> Might not be any less expensive than a new one but if there is anything
>> unique about mounting etc, then it might be worth looking into.
>
> Mounting does not look unique, but I do want to try to resurrect it after my 
> success doing the same with blowers in my W116 and W123.
>
> I need to figure out how to press the squirrel fan off of the shaft; I 
> loosened the lock screw on the fan collar but it still won't budge.  May try 
> the ATF/acetone trick.
>
> Can motor shops generally balance squirrel fans as well?  There is one that 
> seems to need it.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] source for small electric motors?

[Walt Zarnoch]

I second surpluscenter

allelectronics.com sometimes has them as well.

I'd honestly call viking though, worst case they tell you it's NLA.

Walt

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> grainger.com
>
> Surpluscenter.com
>
>
>
>> One of the blower motors in the Viking range hood is dead.  It is made
>> by Emerson, model F33CYBFD2225.
>>
>> I can't find this exact model listed online.  Anyone know of a good
>> source for compatible replacements?  Specs are 1/25 HP, 1550 RPM, 1.7A,
>> 115 V, 3 3/8" diameter.
>>
>> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Butane-Propane mix

[Walt Zarnoch]

Irrc, Jim uses iso-butane camp stove cans and good old propane, and mixes
as he goes.

Walt
On Mar 4, 2012 6:16 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> I tried to find (Coleman?) propane-butane mix when I was fixing the A/C on
> both cars,
> but without success; it was all just propane.
> Yesterday I found small flat cans of Coleman "high performance fuel blend"
> butane/propane
> mix 7 3/4 oz/220gm self-sealing 250  #3250-702T $5.00 each.
> Does this sound like what you use for "testing" your A/C systems?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>
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Re: [MBZ] Just the thing for the discerning enthusiast

[Walt Zarnoch]

Wow.

That is actually a quite tasteful conversion, that looks to be done properly!

Makes me wonder if it's the end times...

Walt, who still can't believe it, even with pics...

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:
> I think I saw this thing a few months back
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2875924296.html
>
> Kinda interesting, just the thing for mama to go to the garden shop in.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas

[Walt Zarnoch]

Saw one in 2K10 at google I/O, they were still billing it as an electric
car at that point, no mention of a fuel system.

My understanding is that it was designed as a commuter car to get you from
point A.0 to A.5 since point B.0 was a bit too far away.

Walt
On Feb 26, 2012 10:12 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> Hans Neureiter  writes:
>
> > For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
> > before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
>
> I thought the Volt was a series hybrid, the engine powers a generator
> which drives the wheel motors.  It has a modest battery pack to recover
> energy from braking and to help out off the line, but it was never
> really intended to go far on batteries alone.  Is that correct?
>
> > Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the
> > battery.
>
> Disappointing.  A modern diesel in a similar-sized car would do close to
> double that.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

[Walt Zarnoch]

No reply to my inquiry...

This is most strange.

Walt

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:
> Sounds fun! Maybe I could wrangle a deal.
>
> "$500 only! Last offer!"
>
> Walt
>
> On Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you of Grant could get Walt to ask the questions.  He has a NY
>> phone.
>>
>>
>>> Weird.  I gave him a NJ phone number... maybe thats why he never
>>> responded!
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM, G Mann  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Strange guy. I got a reply to my email to him and it ask that I give
>>>> him a
>>>>  NY phone number for him to call me. I'm in Phoenix, so that isn't going
>>>> to
>>>>  happen, replied to that regard with my Phx. number.. and a request for
>>>> his
>>>>  #.. no reply.
>>>>
>>>>  I feel like Gheraldo Reveria looking for the lost Scarface vault
>>>> wtf...
>>>>  The ever elusive "garage find" presses forward..
>>>
>>>  > Grant...
>>>  >
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Myth or fact? 100 mile W123

[Walt Zarnoch]

Sounds fun! Maybe I could wrangle a deal.

"$500 only! Last offer!"

Walt
On Feb 18, 2012 7:36 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe you of Grant could get Walt to ask the questions.  He has a NY phone.
>
>
>  Weird.  I gave him a NJ phone number... maybe thats why he never
>> responded!
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:09 AM, G Mann  wrote:
>>
>>   Strange guy. I got a reply to my email to him and it ask that I give
>>> him a
>>>  NY phone number for him to call me. I'm in Phoenix, so that isn't going
>>> to
>>>  happen, replied to that regard with my Phx. number.. and a request for
>>> his
>>>  #.. no reply.
>>>
>>>  I feel like Gheraldo Reveria looking for the lost Scarface vault
>>> wtf...
>>>  The ever elusive "garage find" presses forward..
>>>
>>  > Grant...
>>  >
>>
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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

[Walt Zarnoch]

If GM did it right, a carbon fibre Vette with a proper polish and uv
protectant clearcoat would likely sell quite well. Witness the naked
stainless steel on the DMC-12.

Walt
On Feb 17, 2012 11:39 PM, "E M"  wrote:

> Me too, just delete the badges, and that silly carbon fibre that is all the
> rage for interior trim. What is it with people thinking clear coated carbon
> mate is a cool option for interior trim.  If it's such a good look, maybe
> they should just stop painting Corvettes and start selling them in plain
> fibreglass with clear coat.
>
> I know taste is very much subjective, and no doubt mine has been open to
> question at times too.  I love anything with lots of cylinders and power, I
> just prefer it packaged in something a bit more elegant and understated.
> Then again, I've never been a "hey, look at me kinda guy".  :-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 17 February 2012 23:03, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
> > wrote:
>
> > I want any of the vulgar ones, particularly those ending in "65"
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 2/17/12 9:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
> >
> >> Sad in ways, but tacky and vulgar are now
> >>> fashionable.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>> 300E
> >>>
> >>>
> >> you mean vulgar like this?  http://www.mbusa.com/amg/**build/<
> http://www.mbusa.com/amg/build/>
> >>
> >> or tacky like this? http://www.benzworld.org/**
> >> forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/**1504914-w126-donk-3.html<
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1504914-w126-donk-3.html
> >
> >>
> >> Or vulgar and tacky like these?
> >> Something in this is alleged to be a MB SL:
> >> http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/**2011/08/mercedes-benz-sl65-on-**22.html
> 
> >>
> >>  http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >> Or these:  http://egotvonline.com/2011/**07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-**
> >> athlete-cars/<
> http://egotvonline.com/2011/07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-athlete-cars/>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: G3 and G4 monitors

[Walt Zarnoch]

I'll forward it on to him and see what he wants to do.

Thanks for looking into it!

Walt
On Feb 11, 2012 9:29 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> No need, Walt. I got all of the info on it from GSX (Apple's service
> repair system.) I'm a certified Apple tech, so I have access to it.
>
> It's an early 1.8GHz 20" iMac, so the PSU I have should work in it.
>
> Let me know if he needs it for sure and we can work out the details.
>
> Dan
>
> On Feb 11, 2012, at 5:01 AM, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:
>
> > Here's what we have so far.
> >
> > "iMac g5 serial: w8447555pp8"
> >
> > I can try to get the full set of numbers next time I'm at his place.
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >> Walt,
> >>
> >> I may have a good PSU for a G5 iMac.
> >>
> >> Give me the product number from the tag and I will check.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Walt Zarnoch  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do they have any of the flat screen iMac machines? Or any PSU's for the
> >>> same?
> >>>
> >>> Friend has a ppc iMac (G5?) with a boffed PSU, caps keep popin even
> when
> >>> replaced, otherwise was running ok. Have yet to check logic board...
> >>>
> >>> Walt
> >>> On Feb 1, 2012 10:21 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> No anti-winders stuff here.  Sorry.  Just for G3 and G4 owners.
> >>>>
> >>>> At the univ junk sale today they had several Apple flat panel monitors
> > for
> >>>> $10 to 30.  I found out these only work with G3 and 4 boxes.  These
> have
> >>>> only one cable and only work with the Apple card that supplies power
> to
> > the
> >>>> monitor.  THere is no external power cord.
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone wants one, I can see if I can get back next week to pick up
> > one
> >>>> for you.  Some of the $10 ones have scratches on the clear screen
> > cover.  I
> >>>> almost bought one, but I only have one box that would work with it,
> and
> > I
> >>>> have too many good trinitron CRT monitors.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only drawback is that shipping may be more than the monitor. These
> >>>> probably weigh 15 lb when packed for shipment.
> >>>>
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