Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Good to know

On Mon, May 13, 2019, 7:23 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> The AMG Hammer cars started life as diesel, which was removed and replaced
> with AMG's modified 5.6 liter V8.  Are those legal for registration in CA?
> Might be a precedent there.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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>
> > Yes it can get complicated out here. I think if the car was not sold as a
> > diesel it could be a bit tricky. But it would probably be possible.
> >
> > On Sat, May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > generally, yes  (Feds) Who knows what the frankenstate of Kollyfonia
> > does.
> > >
> > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 7:02 PM:
> > > >
> > > > If the engine is newer than the car, isn't it fine and dandy as long
> as
> > > the completed frankencar meets the standards of the engine's model
> year?
> > > >
> > > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The AMG Hammer cars started life as diesel, which was removed and replaced
with AMG's modified 5.6 liter V8.  Are those legal for registration in CA?
Might be a precedent there.
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Charleston SC


On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:49 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Yes it can get complicated out here. I think if the car was not sold as a
> diesel it could be a bit tricky. But it would probably be possible.
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > generally, yes  (Feds) Who knows what the frankenstate of Kollyfonia
> does.
> >
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 7:02 PM:
> > >
> > > If the engine is newer than the car, isn't it fine and dandy as long as
> > the completed frankencar meets the standards of the engine's model year?
> > >
> > > Mitch.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes it can get complicated out here. I think if the car was not sold as a
diesel it could be a bit tricky. But it would probably be possible.

On Sat, May 11, 2019, 5:19 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> generally, yes  (Feds) Who knows what the frankenstate of Kollyfonia does.
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 7:02 PM:
> >
> > If the engine is newer than the car, isn't it fine and dandy as long as
> the completed frankencar meets the standards of the engine's model year?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

generally, yes  (Feds) Who knows what the frankenstate of Kollyfonia does.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 5/11/19 7:02 PM:


If the engine is newer than the car, isn't it fine and dandy as long as the 
completed frankencar meets the standards of the engine's model year?

Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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> On May 11, 2019 at 5:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am also not sure I can license the 648/560sec combo in California, but it
> might be possible.

If the engine is newer than the car, isn't it fine and dandy as long as the 
completed frankencar meets the standards of the engine's model year?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Yes I understand. My reservation is not the  bullet holes, but rather that
the miles are not stated on the copart listing.

Biggest line item on a swap is typically labor. If you're going to pay
someone else to drop engine x into chassis y, you probably want them both
to be of known provenance.

I am also not sure I can license the 648/560sec combo in California, but it
might be possible.

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>
> > On May 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The Nashville one appears to have been used for target practice.
>
> If you're buying a donor drivetrain, a car that was vandalized when parked
> is a good candidate, after you make sure the computers and major components
> don't have bullet holes in them.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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> On May 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Nashville one appears to have been used for target practice.

If you're buying a donor drivetrain, a car that was vandalized when parked is a 
good candidate, after you make sure the computers and major components don't 
have bullet holes in them. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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The Nashville one appears to have been used for target practice.

Meade I would not be inclined to undertake such a swap myself either. It
could be a cool business, retrofitting older cars with that motor, though.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:39 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Go for it, Karl.
> https://www.copart.com/lot/56180868
>
> Or maybe Poos will show us how it's done?
> https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228
>
> Is Nashville within Kaleb's buying range?
> https://www.copart.com/lot/28708709
>
> > On May 10, 2019 at 2:33 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Honestly the om648 is the future of all diesel swaps. Modern power, 400
> ft
> > lb of torque. Buy a donor on copart, get all 8 keys, swap the factory ecu
> > and motor. Tunable with aftermarket ecu to 4-500hp for those so inclined
> > with larger injectors, turbo and the 400cdi fuel pump. It would be a
> super
> > cool sec swap.
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Go for it, Karl.
https://www.copart.com/lot/56180868

Or maybe Poos will show us how it's done?
https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228

Is Nashville within Kaleb's buying range?
https://www.copart.com/lot/28708709

> On May 10, 2019 at 2:33 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Honestly the om648 is the future of all diesel swaps. Modern power, 400 ft
> lb of torque. Buy a donor on copart, get all 8 keys, swap the factory ecu
> and motor. Tunable with aftermarket ecu to 4-500hp for those so inclined
> with larger injectors, turbo and the 400cdi fuel pump. It would be a super
> cool sec swap.

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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Unfortunately, your champagne tastes don't line up with my beer budget...

Great idea, not gonna happen any time soon for me.  Time is actually the
biggest deficit.

-
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 2:34 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Honestly the om648 is the future of all diesel swaps. Modern power, 400 ft
> lb of torque. Buy a donor on copart, get all 8 keys, swap the factory ecu
> and motor. Tunable with aftermarket ecu to 4-500hp for those so inclined
> with larger injectors, turbo and the 400cdi fuel pump. It would be a super
> cool sec swap.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Honestly the om648 is the future of all diesel swaps. Modern power, 400 ft
lb of torque. Buy a donor on copart, get all 8 keys, swap the factory ecu
and motor. Tunable with aftermarket ecu to 4-500hp for those so inclined
with larger injectors, turbo and the 400cdi fuel pump. It would be a super
cool sec swap.

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 10:43 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It's sitting under a tarp waiting for the next steps.  It runs, sorta,
> and stops, sorta, the front suspension is shot.  I have not had a chance
> to look at it at all but for the price I couldn't pass it up.
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/10/19 1:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Maybe we should create one?   What's the deal with the $300 car?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have 2 560SECs!  One is better than the other but both are kinda
> >> rough, but the better one is not too bad.  I got the second one for
> >> $300, have not done anything with it or taken parts off, kinda hate to
> >> start buggering it up as it is pretty much complete.
> >>
> >> I like how it drives, the big V8 gives it a nice kick, nothing like a
> >> newer engine but it is 30 years old so no complaining.  Has the 126
> >> stability which is very comfortable.  Big solid car.  I love the style
> >> of the car, it is one of my favorite Benzes.
> >>
> >> I think a turbo-diesel should slide right in there, same chassis as the
> >> 300SDs I guess it would be a 300SDC?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 5/10/19 1:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> My opinion on the 560SEC - it's a beautiful car that only lacks a
> >>> turbo-Diesel engine ...
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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It's sitting under a tarp waiting for the next steps.  It runs, sorta, 
and stops, sorta, the front suspension is shot.  I have not had a chance 
to look at it at all but for the price I couldn't pass it up.


--FT

On 5/10/19 1:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe we should create one?   What's the deal with the $300 car?
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Charleston SC


On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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I have 2 560SECs!  One is better than the other but both are kinda
rough, but the better one is not too bad.  I got the second one for
$300, have not done anything with it or taken parts off, kinda hate to
start buggering it up as it is pretty much complete.

I like how it drives, the big V8 gives it a nice kick, nothing like a
newer engine but it is 30 years old so no complaining.  Has the 126
stability which is very comfortable.  Big solid car.  I love the style
of the car, it is one of my favorite Benzes.

I think a turbo-diesel should slide right in there, same chassis as the
300SDs I guess it would be a 300SDC?

--FT

On 5/10/19 1:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

My opinion on the 560SEC - it's a beautiful car that only lacks a
turbo-Diesel engine ...




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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe we should create one?   What's the deal with the $300 car?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have 2 560SECs!  One is better than the other but both are kinda
> rough, but the better one is not too bad.  I got the second one for
> $300, have not done anything with it or taken parts off, kinda hate to
> start buggering it up as it is pretty much complete.
>
> I like how it drives, the big V8 gives it a nice kick, nothing like a
> newer engine but it is 30 years old so no complaining.  Has the 126
> stability which is very comfortable.  Big solid car.  I love the style
> of the car, it is one of my favorite Benzes.
>
> I think a turbo-diesel should slide right in there, same chassis as the
> 300SDs I guess it would be a 300SDC?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/10/19 1:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > My opinion on the 560SEC - it's a beautiful car that only lacks a
> > turbo-Diesel engine ...
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Nice.
> >>
> >> Here's my opinion on the 560SEC: Go for it.
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:06 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This turned out to be the crank position sensor and/or the brake
> switch,
> >>> both of which have now been replaced. Hats off to whoever guessed cps.
> >>>
> >>> I have a hankering for a 560 sec. Anyone have opinions?
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have 2 560SECs!  One is better than the other but both are kinda 
rough, but the better one is not too bad.  I got the second one for 
$300, have not done anything with it or taken parts off, kinda hate to 
start buggering it up as it is pretty much complete.


I like how it drives, the big V8 gives it a nice kick, nothing like a 
newer engine but it is 30 years old so no complaining.  Has the 126 
stability which is very comfortable.  Big solid car.  I love the style 
of the car, it is one of my favorite Benzes.


I think a turbo-diesel should slide right in there, same chassis as the 
300SDs I guess it would be a 300SDC?


--FT

On 5/10/19 1:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

My opinion on the 560SEC - it's a beautiful car that only lacks a
turbo-Diesel engine ...

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nice.

Here's my opinion on the 560SEC: Go for it.
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Charleston SC


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:06 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This turned out to be the crank position sensor and/or the brake switch,
both of which have now been replaced. Hats off to whoever guessed cps.

I have a hankering for a 560 sec. Anyone have opinions?



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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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My opinion on the 560SEC - it's a beautiful car that only lacks a
turbo-Diesel engine ...

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice.
>
> Here's my opinion on the 560SEC: Go for it.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 9:06 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > This turned out to be the crank position sensor and/or the brake switch,
> > both of which have now been replaced. Hats off to whoever guessed cps.
> >
> > I have a hankering for a 560 sec. Anyone have opinions?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Nice.

Here's my opinion on the 560SEC: Go for it.
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Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> This turned out to be the crank position sensor and/or the brake switch,
> both of which have now been replaced. Hats off to whoever guessed cps.
>
> I have a hankering for a 560 sec. Anyone have opinions?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Yah the harness is newish.

This turned out to be the crank position sensor and/or the brake switch,
both of which have now been replaced. Hats off to whoever guessed cps.

I have a hankering for a 560 sec. Anyone have opinions?



On Wed, May 8, 2019, 10:57 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> It DOES have a new engine wiring harness, right?
>
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 12:48 PM:
> > Sounds good. Better than sticking another used part on it.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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It DOES have a new engine wiring harness, right?

Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 12:48 PM:

Sounds good. Better than sticking another used part on it.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

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Sounds good. Better than sticking another used part on it.

On Wed, May 8, 2019, 9:36 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> This is NOT something you want to DIY. While you could rewire the harness,
> there are interior bits you can’t fix if bad or questionable that a
> rebuilder could/would.
>
> I can dig up the info on the guy in AL. He sells on eBay, too. Really,
> really good work, and quick turnaround, too. I’ve used him several times
> and always been pleased.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 8, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped
> at a light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring,
> smoking.  I managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I was
> going.  Shut it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the wiring, it
> has likely all gone to shite on the throttle bodies and ignition bits and
> whatever else. Just have not take the time to check it out.
> >
> > There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the
> 600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but not
> the actual rebuilding/resoldering.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >> uh ohThose had the same self destructing wire insulation as the
> rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it
> up, the insulation fell out like dust.
> >>
> >> I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car.
> I dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They
> stink too.
> >>
> >> I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of
> tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:
> >>> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> >>> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS
> radio
> >>> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

This is NOT something you want to DIY. While you could rewire the harness, 
there are interior bits you can’t fix if bad or questionable that a rebuilder 
could/would.

I can dig up the info on the guy in AL. He sells on eBay, too. Really, really 
good work, and quick turnaround, too. I’ve used him several times and always 
been pleased.

-D

> On May 8, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped at a 
> light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring, smoking.  I 
> managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I was going.  Shut 
> it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the wiring, it has likely all 
> gone to shite on the throttle bodies and ignition bits and whatever else. 
> Just have not take the time to check it out.
> 
> There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the 
> 600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but not the 
> actual rebuilding/resoldering.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> uh ohThose had the same self destructing wire insulation as the rest 
>> of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it up, the 
>> insulation fell out like dust.
>> 
>> I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. I 
>> dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They stink 
>> too.
>> 
>> I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of tiny 
>> wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.
>> 
>> 
>> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:
>>> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
>>> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
>>> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was driving the SL600 on Saturday, it was running really well. Stopped 
at a light and as it dropped to idle it was barely running, misfiring, 
smoking.  I managed to limp along until I got a couple miles to where I 
was going.  Shut it off and it ran fine.  I need to tear into the 
wiring, it has likely all gone to shite on the throttle bodies and 
ignition bits and whatever else. Just have not take the time to check it 
out.


There is a Russian guy in NJ who rebuilds all this stuff too, esp on the 
600s.  He has lots of vids on his web site about working on them, but 
not the actual rebuilding/resoldering.


--FT

On 5/8/19 10:59 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
uh oh    Those had the same self destructing wire insulation as 
the rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and 
opened it up, the insulation fell out like dust.


I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. 
I dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   
They stink too.


I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of 
tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

uh oh    Those had the same self destructing wire insulation as the 
rest of the car.   When I took the original off the E320,  and opened it 
up, the insulation fell out like dust.


I also put in a used one, and it worked long enough to unload the car. I 
dislike vergassers for this and a whole host of other reasons.   They 
stink too.


I had thoughts of trying to rewire the thing until i saw the number of 
tiny wires and the non-existent space to work in.  I threw it out.



Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 5/8/19 8:46 AM:

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.





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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

This involves sending it to the guy in Alabama that rebuilds them and spending 
the $200 or so to make sure it’s 100%. It’s not a DIY repair.

-D

> On May 8, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
>> replaced, and where did it come from?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
>> to.
>>> I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
>>> took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
>> else
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
 something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
 computer.  Does it throw a code?
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
 when
> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
>> die.
> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
>> again.
> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> 
> Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
> soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
> tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
>> replaced, and where did it come from?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
>> to.
>>> I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
>>> took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
>> else
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
 something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
 computer.  Does it throw a code?
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
 when
> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
>> die.
> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
>> again.
> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
 the
> upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
> Anybody had this happen before?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty
>> much
>> a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
>> perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
>> boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
>> bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
>> not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them
>> but I
>> guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
>> like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
>> sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
>> the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
>> hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.
>> Had
>> a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
>> hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
>> they would be a (good) surprise.
>> 
>> I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
>> storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to
>> fire
>> it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
>> 
>> Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty
>> on
>> the side, 21k GVW.
>> 
>> The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
>> parts are readily 

Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Throttle body was a used take off. Does this involve busting out the
soldering iron? I am getting good at that after soldering up a GPS radio
tracker for my kids rocket, so I have all the kit.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it
> replaced, and where did it come from?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up
> to.
> > I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
> > took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything
> else
> > with it.
> >
> > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
> >> something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
> >> computer.  Does it throw a code?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
> >> when
> >>> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually
> die.
> >>> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens
> again.
> >>> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> >>> smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
> >> the
> >>> upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
> >>> Anybody had this happen before?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty
> much
>  a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
>  perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
>  boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
>  bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
>  not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them
> but I
>  guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
>  like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
>  sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
>  the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
>  hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.
> Had
>  a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
>  hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
>  they would be a (good) surprise.
> 
>  I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
>  storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to
> fire
>  it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
> 
>  Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty
> on
>  the side, 21k GVW.
> 
>  The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
>  parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
>  Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.
> 
>  NHTSA have a VIN decoder!
> 
>  Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC
>  
> 
>  Vehicle Type: TRUCK
> 
>  Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)
> 
>  Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
> 
>  Model: L1116
> 
>  Body Class: Truck
> 
>  Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 -
> 11,794
>  kg)
>  Axles:
>  Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
>  Axle Configuration:
>  Drive Type:
>  Cylinders: 6
>  Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
>  Engine Model: OM 352A
>  Engine Brake (HP): 164
> 
>  Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
>  bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it
> out
>  and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
>  furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old
> sh*t).
> 
>  --FT
> 
>  On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> > It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats
> a
> > heater, or air conditioner?
> > The shifter is wy down between the seats...
> >
> > The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
> > intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
> > worth but having a spare engine appeals...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >>
> 

Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Probably a bad feedback pot on the throttle body. How long ago was it replaced, 
and where did it come from?

-D


> On May 7, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up to.
> I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
> took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything else
> with it.
> 
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
>> something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
>> computer.  Does it throw a code?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
>> when
>>> the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually die.
>>> Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens again.
>>> Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
>>> smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
>> the
>>> upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
>>> Anybody had this happen before?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty much
 a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
 perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
 boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
 bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
 not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them but I
 guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
 like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
 sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
 the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
 hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.  Had
 a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
 hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
 they would be a (good) surprise.
 
 I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
 storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to fire
 it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
 
 Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty on
 the side, 21k GVW.
 
 The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
 parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
 Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.
 
 NHTSA have a VIN decoder!
 
 Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC
 
 
 Vehicle Type: TRUCK
 
 Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)
 
 Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
 
 Model: L1116
 
 Body Class: Truck
 
 Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 - 11,794
 kg)
 Axles:
 Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
 Axle Configuration:
 Drive Type:
 Cylinders: 6
 Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
 Engine Model: OM 352A
 Engine Brake (HP): 164
 
 Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
 bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it out
 and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
 furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old sh*t).
 
 --FT
 
 On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats a
> heater, or air conditioner?
> The shifter is wy down between the seats...
> 
> The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
> intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
> worth but having a spare engine appeals...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
> Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
> air in them.
> 
> Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly
>> common
> and parts are likely easy to get.
> 
> Is it BaTworthy?
> 
 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/
> here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
> 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I don't know for sure. I don't even have anything at home to hook it up to.
I just called the tow truck guy and he was there in like 15 minutes and
took it to my mechanic to sort out. I didn't have time to do anything else
with it.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes
> something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the
> computer.  Does it throw a code?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere
> when
> > the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually die.
> > Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens again.
> > Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
> > smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and
> the
> > upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
> > Anybody had this happen before?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty much
> >> a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
> >> perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
> >> boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
> >> bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
> >> not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them but I
> >> guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
> >> like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
> >> sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
> >> the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
> >> hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.  Had
> >> a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
> >> hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
> >> they would be a (good) surprise.
> >>
> >> I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
> >> storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to fire
> >> it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
> >>
> >> Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty on
> >> the side, 21k GVW.
> >>
> >> The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
> >> parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
> >> Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.
> >>
> >> NHTSA have a VIN decoder!
> >>
> >> Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC
> >> 
> >>
> >> Vehicle Type: TRUCK
> >>
> >> Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)
> >>
> >> Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
> >>
> >> Model: L1116
> >>
> >> Body Class: Truck
> >>
> >> Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 - 11,794
> >> kg)
> >> Axles:
> >> Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
> >> Axle Configuration:
> >> Drive Type:
> >> Cylinders: 6
> >> Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
> >> Engine Model: OM 352A
> >> Engine Brake (HP): 164
> >>
> >> Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
> >> bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it out
> >> and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
> >> furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old sh*t).
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >>> It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats a
> >>> heater, or air conditioner?
> >>> The shifter is wy down between the seats...
> >>>
> >>> The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
> >>> intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
> >>> worth but having a spare engine appeals...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
> >>> Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
> >>> air in them.
> >>>
> >>> Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly
> common
> >>> and parts are likely easy to get.
> >>>
> >>> Is it BaTworthy?
> >>>
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/
> >>> here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
> >>>
> https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I see on the FB 210 list that the crank sensor gets wonky and causes 
something like this, maybe some other sensor in there that talks to the 
computer.  Does it throw a code?


--FT

On 5/7/19 3:07 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere when
the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually die.
Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens again.
Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and the
upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
Anybody had this happen before?



On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty much
a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them but I
guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.  Had
a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
they would be a (good) surprise.

I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to fire
it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.

Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty on
the side, 21k GVW.

The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.

NHTSA have a VIN decoder!

Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC


Vehicle Type: TRUCK

Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)

Make: MERCEDES-BENZ

Model: L1116

Body Class: Truck

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 - 11,794
kg)
Axles:
Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
Axle Configuration:
Drive Type:
Cylinders: 6
Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Model: OM 352A
Engine Brake (HP): 164

Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it out
and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old sh*t).

--FT

On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats a
heater, or air conditioner?
The shifter is wy down between the seats...

The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
worth but having a spare engine appeals...

-Curt

On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:




https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html

Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
air in them.

Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common
and parts are likely easy to get.

Is it BaTworthy?


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/

here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184

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[MBZ] 1994 e420 woes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Kinda stumbles occasionally to the point it wont actually go anywhere when
the accelerator is pressed, but is still running and doesnt actually die.
Then miraculously cures itself for a week or two, then it happens again.
Between episodes it goes like a rocket as usual. No warning lights. No
smoke. No worrisome gauge readings. Throttle body has been replaced and the
upper harness. Maybe one of the modules is bad? Or one of the coils?
Anybody had this happen before?



On Tue, May 7, 2019, 11:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I went and took a look at this thing.  The whole cab was pretty much
> a rust bucket (well, not a bucket, more like a colander) -- roof was
> perforated, windshield surround was a good part rusted through, floor
> boards rusted (due to rain through the roof), seats moldy.  The engine
> bay looked half decent and fairly clean, no idea if it would fire or
> not.  Tires were holding air, not sure how much I would trust them but I
> guess they would roll. The glovebox had a manual for the truck (or one
> like it).  The box was in good shape.  The lift was all rusty and
> sitting on the ground, that would have to be lifted or removed to move
> the truck, which would require getting the engine running and some
> hydraulics pumping, or some muscle (and air wrenches) to remove it.  Had
> a big air tank, I presume for the brakes (I think I saw "air over
> hydraulics" on some site), no idea how to get those working but maybe
> they would be a (good) surprise.
>
> I was thinking to offer the guy $500 and have it towed off, use it for
> storage for now then see about getting it running.  Or maybe try to fire
> it up and see if it might move and stop.  That would be interesting.
>
> Plate says it is a L 1116/51, 25000lb max weight, says like 10k empty on
> the side, 21k GVW.
>
> The OM352A engine looks to be fairly common in Unimogs too, looks like
> parts are readily available and guys who deal with them quite a bit.
> Groups on benzworld and peachparts for mogs.
>
> NHTSA have a VIN decoder!
>
> Manufacturer: MERCEDES-BENZ TRUCK COMPANY INC
> 
>
> Vehicle Type: TRUCK
>
> Model Year: 2013 (no it's a 1983)
>
> Make: MERCEDES-BENZ
>
> Model: L1116
>
> Body Class: Truck
>
> Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: Class 6: 19,501 - 26,000 lb (8,845 - 11,794
> kg)
> Axles:
> Engine Displacement (L): 5.669924144
> Axle Configuration:
> Drive Type:
> Cylinders: 6
> Primary Fuel Type: Diesel
> Engine Model: OM 352A
> Engine Brake (HP): 164
>
> Thoughts?  I guess I could throw out a number to the guy, see if he
> bites or wants to dicker. Antiques shop, I think they are selling it out
> and getting rid of all the old stuff they have (was some beautiful old
> furniture for pretty reasonable prices, not that I need more old sh*t).
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/6/19 2:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> > It must be quite a thing to drive. That big box in between the seats a
> > heater, or air conditioner?
> > The shifter is wy down between the seats...
> >
> > The Pisten Bully the snowmobile club owns has an OM352LA, the LA is
> > intercooled and turbocharged. Transplantation seems harder than its
> > worth but having a spare engine appeals...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, May 6, 2019, 2:37:10 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-classic-mbz-box-truck-with/6882187434.html
> >
> > Wonder if it can get running (and would stop)?  Looks like tires have
> > air in them.
> >
> > Offer $800?  From a quick googling it looks like these are fairly common
> > and parts are likely easy to get.
> >
> > Is it BaTworthy?
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-l-1116-om352-a-turbo-diesel/
> >
> > here's one running and outfitted sold for $1800
> > https://www.proxibid.com/1980-Mercedes-L-1116-S1/lotInformation/38664184
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> >
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