Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 We got ours yesterday, $600 each in a real paper check.The last round took 
forever to arrive and when it did it was a stupid looking debit card that might 
as well have had "I'm a scam" printed right on it. Was a PITA to use too.
-Curt

On Saturday, January 9, 2021, 12:57:10 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
>  
> 
>
> He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m 
> not in the market, I would look at it otherwise.
>
> -D

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Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> It says I’m getting a check mailed on the 6th, have not seen it
> yet. Last one was direct deposit. Not sure why the difference. Might
> be because the previous year I got a small refund and this last time
> for 2019 I had to pay, so no bank account on that return.

Hm, good catch. Same thing for me, I had to pay on my 2019 return but
got a refund on my 2018 return.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[MG via Mercedes]

We got ours Thursday.

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:


Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html 


He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m not 
in the market, I would look at it otherwise.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In Florida it has to go to a state inspection station for a complete 
inspection, which takes about 2-4 hours, after which (assuming it passes) they 
brand the car with a special VIN sticker on the "A" pillar post.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That part's the same here.
> I bought salvage, which the insurance companies can legally sell only to 
> dealers with a dismantler license, by having a dismantler buy it for me.
> 
> Then I had to pay a specially trained cop $100 (state says no more than $100, 
> which in practice means no less than $100) to inspect it, which meant 
> verifying the engine and transmission serial numbers, checking my receipts 
> for the donor car VIN for the door, and making sure lights/wipers worked. 
> Aside from checking the exterior lamps and wipers, it was all about 
> certifying that there weren't any stolen parts on it.
> 
> As far as roadworthy, he didn't even know if it would start. He pay have 
> cared if the brake pedal went to the floor during the light check.
> 
> 
> On 2021-01-09 12:31, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> My “rebuilt” title on the SL500 is due to the PO buying the car as
>> salvage from the insurance company and getting a rebuilt title when
>> the car was made roadworthy. In Florida, a salvage title brands a car
>> as being unroadworthy and it’s not legal to drive or insure it. You
>> have to get the car inspected by the state to assure it’s roadworthy,
>> then a rebuilt title is issued.
>> If you get a car with a salvage title in Florida it’s a parts car or
>> destined for dismantling. It cannot be (legally) driven on the roads.
>> When an insurance company totals a car, they have to apply for a
>> salvage title to have it dismantled.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That part's the same here.
I bought salvage, which the insurance companies can legally sell only to 
dealers with a dismantler license, by having a dismantler buy it for me.


Then I had to pay a specially trained cop $100 (state says no more than 
$100, which in practice means no less than $100) to inspect it, which 
meant verifying the engine and transmission serial numbers, checking my 
receipts for the donor car VIN for the door, and making sure 
lights/wipers worked. Aside from checking the exterior lamps and wipers, 
it was all about certifying that there weren't any stolen parts on it.


As far as roadworthy, he didn't even know if it would start. He pay have 
cared if the brake pedal went to the floor during the light check.



On 2021-01-09 12:31, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


My “rebuilt” title on the SL500 is due to the PO buying the car as
salvage from the insurance company and getting a rebuilt title when
the car was made roadworthy. In Florida, a salvage title brands a car
as being unroadworthy and it’s not legal to drive or insure it. You
have to get the car inspected by the state to assure it’s roadworthy,
then a rebuilt title is issued.

If you get a car with a salvage title in Florida it’s a parts car or
destined for dismantling. It cannot be (legally) driven on the roads.
When an insurance company totals a car, they have to apply for a
salvage title to have it dismantled.



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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It says I’m getting a check mailed on the 6th, have not seen it yet. Last one 
was direct deposit. Not sure why the difference. Might be because the previous 
year I got a small refund and this last time for 2019 I had to pay, so no bank 
account on that return. 

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-09 12:21, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hmm. First one last spring was direct deposit.
>> Just checked the IRS website; the latest one was sent by mail on Jan 6,
>> so there's about a 20% chance one of my neighbors will get it, based on
>> postal service delivery accuracy in my neighborhood. Wonder why they
>> didn't do that one as a direct deposit as well?
> 
> And I got a $1200 check the first week in May, then they DDed the $600 to the 
> same account I deposited the check in. I may have gone to the IRS web site in 
> April and given them DD info for the stimulus check, in fact I'm 90% sure 
> that's how they got my bank account info, but they didn't use it in May.
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On 2021-01-09 12:21, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm. First one last spring was direct deposit.

Just checked the IRS website; the latest one was sent by mail on Jan 6,
so there's about a 20% chance one of my neighbors will get it, based on
postal service delivery accuracy in my neighborhood. Wonder why they
didn't do that one as a direct deposit as well?



And I got a $1200 check the first week in May, then they DDed the $600 
to the same account I deposited the check in. I may have gone to the IRS 
web site in April and given them DD info for the stimulus check, in fact 
I'm 90% sure that's how they got my bank account info, but they didn't 
use it in May.


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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I went back and looked at my files, and I was not 100% correct:

Tarek’s W140 had a “rebuilt” title from NC, which Florida would recognize as a 
“regular” car. As far as Florida is concerned, if the state designated the car 
as rebuilt it’s roadworthy and no different than any other car on the road.

My “rebuilt” title on the SL500 is due to the PO buying the car as salvage from 
the insurance company and getting a rebuilt title when the car was made 
roadworthy. In Florida, a salvage title brands a car as being unroadworthy and 
it’s not legal to drive or insure it. You have to get the car inspected by the 
state to assure it’s roadworthy, then a rebuilt title is issued.

If you get a car with a salvage title in Florida it’s a parts car or destined 
for dismantling. It cannot be (legally) driven on the roads. When an insurance 
company totals a car, they have to apply for a salvage title to have it 
dismantled.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-09 12:05, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not to my knowledge. I’ve got a reconstructed/rebuilt car (1997 SL500)
>> and it’s clearly identified as such on the title. I’ve seen the same
>> on salvage vehicles I’ve owned here. The one thing that is weird is
>> that if you bring a salvage car in from out of state it’s not
>> identified as such on the title, but it is in the DMV records and that
>> information gets transmitted to any other state that the car is titled
>> in.
> 
> So if I retitled my orange title (rebuilt) Chevy in Florida, I'd get a 
> regular title, but if I transferred that regular title from Florida to 
> another state, it might revert to rebuilt or even salvage?
> 
> Florida might get its bad name from people taking a seemingly clean title 
> home with them and having Florida tell their home state DMV it's salvage.
> That would be bad news to get in the mail a few weeks after you buy a car out 
> of state.
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Hmm. First one last spring was direct deposit.

Just checked the IRS website; the latest one was sent by mail on Jan 6,
so there's about a 20% chance one of my neighbors will get it, based on
postal service delivery accuracy in my neighborhood. Wonder why they
didn't do that one as a direct deposit as well?

Thanks,

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> On 2021-01-09 11:56, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.
>
> I got a $600 direct deposit on Monday.
> They mailed my mom a check on Wednesday.
> https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof-wmsp/notice
>

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And citizens of other countries got an an average of something around $50k 
each. 

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Oldest son’s came yesterday in the mail. We got a few bucks on the 4th in an 
> ACH transaction.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m 
>>> not in the market, I would look at it otherwise.
>>> 
>>> -D
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On 2021-01-09 12:05, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not to my knowledge. I’ve got a reconstructed/rebuilt car (1997 SL500)
and it’s clearly identified as such on the title. I’ve seen the same
on salvage vehicles I’ve owned here. The one thing that is weird is
that if you bring a salvage car in from out of state it’s not
identified as such on the title, but it is in the DMV records and that
information gets transmitted to any other state that the car is titled
in.


So if I retitled my orange title (rebuilt) Chevy in Florida, I'd get a 
regular title, but if I transferred that regular title from Florida to 
another state, it might revert to rebuilt or even salvage?


Florida might get its bad name from people taking a seemingly clean 
title home with them and having Florida tell their home state DMV it's 
salvage.
That would be bad news to get in the mail a few weeks after you buy a 
car out of state.


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not to my knowledge. I’ve got a reconstructed/rebuilt car (1997 SL500) and it’s 
clearly identified as such on the title. I’ve seen the same on salvage vehicles 
I’ve owned here. The one thing that is weird is that if you bring a salvage car 
in from out of state it’s not identified as such on the title, but it is in the 
DMV records and that information gets transmitted to any other state that the 
car is titled in.

Florida’s attitude towards cars like this is appears to be that if another 
state deemed it roadworthy, they’ll title it. The record isn’t “washed” 
however, the information is still there and visible to anyone who wants to look 
it up or inquire.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-09 11:55, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not really. Certainly nothing like states such as AL or VT. No bill of
>> sale sales, titles only.
> 
> Seems like Florida was a place to wash salvage titles, don't know if it is 
> now.
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On 2021-01-09 11:55, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not really. Certainly nothing like states such as AL or VT. No bill of
sale sales, titles only.


Seems like Florida was a place to wash salvage titles, don't know if it 
is now.


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oldest son’s came yesterday in the mail. We got a few bucks on the 4th in an 
ACH transaction.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m 
>> not in the market, I would look at it otherwise.
>> 
>> -D
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On 2021-01-09 11:56, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.


I got a $600 direct deposit on Monday.
They mailed my mom a check on Wednesday.
https://sa.www4.irs.gov/irfof-wmsp/notice

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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

What stimulus checks? I haven't gotten anything.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
>  
> 
>
> He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m 
> not in the market, I would look at it otherwise.
>
> -D

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not really. Certainly nothing like states such as AL or VT. No bill of sale 
sales, titles only.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> At least at one time, Florida cars were looked upon with deep suspicion
> because of odometer rollbacks and other shenanigans. Maybe a lot of
> flood cars ended up there? I can't recall the details. Does Florida have
> fairly relaxed titling requirements?
> 
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at 
>> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros 
>> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a truck 
>> and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store them or 
>> distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax does it to 
>> some extent.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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At least at one time, Florida cars were looked upon with deep suspicion
because of odometer rollbacks and other shenanigans. Maybe a lot of
flood cars ended up there? I can't recall the details. Does Florida have
fairly relaxed titling requirements?


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at 
> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros 
> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a truck 
> and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store them or 
> distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax does it to 
> some extent.
>
> --FT
>

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Only if I wanted to be driving cars to Indiana all the time.

Nope.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes poos could make a side business out of it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2021-01-09 10:04, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at
>>> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros
>>> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a
>>> truck and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store
>>> them or distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax
>>> does it to some extent.
>> 
>> Poos could buy a 2nd Indiana car in FL, drive it around up north for a 
>> while, and sell it there.
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Car max charges the transport to the buyer, so they are not losing out 

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> 
> That’s what will happen to the 1999 E320 4Matic at some point.
> 
> Whether or not it’s viable to buy here and move the cars north is 
> questionable, as the costs involved to transport them, whether doing it 
> yourself or some other way, would negate a lot of any potential profit I 
> would think. CarMax wouldn’t do anything this old, but I”m sure they do it 
> with later model cars as well as cars like convertibles.
> 
> When I used to go to the Mannheim auctions you would see truckloads of 
> convertibles shipped to Florida from their PA location in the wintertime. No 
> market for them up north in the winter, so move them to FL where there’s a 
> year-round market.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2021-01-09 10:04, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at
>>> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros
>>> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a
>>> truck and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store
>>> them or distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax
>>> does it to some extent.
>> 
>> Poos could buy a 2nd Indiana car in FL, drive it around up north for a 
>> while, and sell it there.
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes poos could make a side business out of it. 

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> On 2021-01-09 10:04, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at
>> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros
>> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a
>> truck and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store
>> them or distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax
>> does it to some extent.
> 
> Poos could buy a 2nd Indiana car in FL, drive it around up north for a while, 
> and sell it there.
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what will happen to the 1999 E320 4Matic at some point.

Whether or not it’s viable to buy here and move the cars north is questionable, 
as the costs involved to transport them, whether doing it yourself or some 
other way, would negate a lot of any potential profit I would think. CarMax 
wouldn’t do anything this old, but I”m sure they do it with later model cars as 
well as cars like convertibles.

When I used to go to the Mannheim auctions you would see truckloads of 
convertibles shipped to Florida from their PA location in the wintertime. No 
market for them up north in the winter, so move them to FL where there’s a 
year-round market.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-09 10:04, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at
>> auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros
>> off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a
>> truck and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store
>> them or distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax
>> does it to some extent.
> 
> Poos could buy a 2nd Indiana car in FL, drive it around up north for a while, 
> and sell it there.
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Do the first couple of years of 211 have any issues? All of mine are 05.

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
>  
> 
> 
> He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m 
> not in the market, I would look at it otherwise.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

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On 2021-01-09 10:04, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at
auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros
off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a
truck and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store
them or distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax
does it to some extent.


Poos could buy a 2nd Indiana car in FL, drive it around up north for a 
while, and sell it there.


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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There has to be a market to buy these FL cars cheap privately or at 
auction and transport them to the rust belt and make some good dineros 
off the deal.  I guess all you would need is a buyer at one end, a truck 
and car hauler trailer, and a place at the other end to store them or 
distribute them.  Maybe that is being done, I guess Carmax does it to 
some extent.


--FT

On 1/9/21 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That's what I was thinking.

-D


On Jan 9, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That would be a very decent deal at $2500  I bet cash would talk

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's what I was thinking.

-D

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> That would be a very decent deal at $2500  I bet cash would talk 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That would be a very decent deal at $2500  I bet cash would talk 

--FT
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[MBZ] And the price keeps dropping...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wonder why stimulus checks haven’t bought this car yet?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/palm-harbor-2003-mercedes-e320/7259288771.html
 


He keeps dropping the price. Looks decent from what I can see. Too bad I’m not 
in the market, I would look at it otherwise.

-D
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