Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
You're absolutely correct - we drove rt33 from Richmond to Elkton a while back - gorgeous country as you said - huge farms, small towns. etc - I made ther mistake of letting my wife drive part way - I had a new Porsche magazine I wanted to read ;-) Bad idea. We drove to the top of the mountain - which wasn't bad, then we started down - switchbacks,one after another. And while I enjoy driving fast - I soon found out I *don't* care to be driven fast! All those years I put my wife through - me driving at times like a madman - and she was quietly calm - claiming she trusted me. Now the shoe was on the other foot and I wasn't nearly as calm. I trust her driving (I taught her when she was 16) and she's a great driver, but being driven down a mountain road filled with switchbacks at 45-55mph is not my cup o tea! We were in our 93 Olds - not exactly a sports car and the turns could be better described by nautical terms than road racing terms. We wallowed and heeled from one turn to the next ;-) Oh well, we both survived but it taught me a valuable lesson - and showed how much my wife trusts me. Back to Rt 33 & 20 - one thing that amazes me about most Va roads is the cleanliness - very few McDonalds wrappers and alum cans - I was rudely awakened to the fact not all of USA is like that - flew into Laguardia and drove to Ct - saw so much trash it looked like a landfill. Everything from cars (stripped pretty quickly) to furniture - *big* furniture like sofa's and beds - amazing. I have long wanted to go back to the Blue Ridge Pkwy following small country roads and do some searching for antiques and sports car lanes. The trip is planned for the 3rd week of Oct but that may change. Hoping to take the 911 - weather should be very pleasant by then. Will report if we make the trip -- BTW, the Va State Park system has cabins for rent inside the parks - some are more rustic than others and most are spoken far way in advance. No TV, no phone, etc. Might try to get into one - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo I thought that VA rtes. 33 and 20 in and out of Barboursville, Gordonsville, and Orange were just about the most Mercedes-friendly roads ever: scenic, well maintained, 2 lanes so no trucks, and not particularly trafficky. There is some relief and there are curves, but it is very easy to drive fast! On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Andrew -- We're in Chester, a small village near I95 about 20 miles S or Richmond. It's a great place to live - although I liked Frostburg a lot - its big problem was too little work. Once the construction project was done and the engineering co I worked for didn;t have enough work to keep me so I was stuck in Frostburg. Anyway - Chester is a wonderful place to live - it's grown unbelievably in the last 20 years just like everywhere else. They keep getting closer to widening some of the great little "sports car" friendly roads - I send a letter objecting to it but I doubt that has much effect. I have a theory about making existing roads wider/nicer - when you do that it attracts more traffic, which neccesitates wider/nicer/more roads - in an endless circle. have a nice day - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo Surely you jest, but I appreciate a sense of humor so it's OK. Larry - where do you live now? On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the working apple pickers who need to make a living wage. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective family-owned PYO orchards? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next time ;-) I'l
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
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Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
I thought that VA rtes. 33 and 20 in and out of Barboursville, Gordonsville, and Orange were just about the most Mercedes-friendly roads ever: scenic, well maintained, 2 lanes so no trucks, and not particularly trafficky. There is some relief and there are curves, but it is very easy to drive fast! On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Andrew -- > We're in Chester, a small village near I95 about 20 miles S or Richmond. > It's a great place to live - although I liked Frostburg a lot - its big > problem was too little work. Once the construction project was done and the > engineering co I worked for didn;t have enough work to keep me so I was > stuck in Frostburg. > > Anyway - Chester is a wonderful place to live - it's grown unbelievably in > the last 20 years just like everywhere else. They keep getting closer to > widening some of the great little "sports car" friendly roads - I send a > letter objecting to it but I doubt that has much effect. I have a theory > about making existing roads wider/nicer - when you do that it attracts more > traffic, which neccesitates wider/nicer/more roads - in an endless circle. > > have a nice day - > > Take Care, > Larry T > http://youroil.net > http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing > http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: > - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:29 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > > > Surely you jest, but I appreciate a sense of humor so it's OK. >> >> Larry - where do you live now? >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the >>> working apple pickers who need to make a living wage. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> andrew strasfogel wrote: >>> >>> There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for >>>> apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective >>>> family-owned PYO orchards? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thx Andrew, >>>>> Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of >>>>> fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! >>>>> >>>>> We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much >>>>> history >>>>> there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always >>>>> good >>>>> to >>>>> save some for next time ;-) >>>>> >>>>> I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops >>>>> at >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care, >>>>> Larry T >>>>> http://youroil.net >>>>> http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing >>>>> http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Great instructions - thanks. >>>>>> I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a >>>>>> visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. >>>>>> Can't >>>>>> recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> breakfast >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Hey Andrew -- We're in Chester, a small village near I95 about 20 miles S or Richmond. It's a great place to live - although I liked Frostburg a lot - its big problem was too little work. Once the construction project was done and the engineering co I worked for didn;t have enough work to keep me so I was stuck in Frostburg. Anyway - Chester is a wonderful place to live - it's grown unbelievably in the last 20 years just like everywhere else. They keep getting closer to widening some of the great little "sports car" friendly roads - I send a letter objecting to it but I doubt that has much effect. I have a theory about making existing roads wider/nicer - when you do that it attracts more traffic, which neccesitates wider/nicer/more roads - in an endless circle. have a nice day - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo Surely you jest, but I appreciate a sense of humor so it's OK. Larry - where do you live now? On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the working apple pickers who need to make a living wage. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective family-owned PYO orchards? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next time ;-) I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at them. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo Great instructions - thanks. I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville and a visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the breakfast was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Andrew, Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. Looking at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd llike to take a look and consider some of the same places? As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it as a giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a looseness when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 bolts holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then remove the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer bearing. Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing will fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver to remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the inner WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the WB that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub and slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I say "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once done, flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB dealer - it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for each wheel. Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a ham
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Surely you jest, but I appreciate a sense of humor so it's OK. Larry - where do you live now? On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the > working apple pickers who need to make a living wage. > > --R > > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for >> apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective >> family-owned PYO orchards? >> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Thx Andrew, >>> Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of >>> fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! >>> >>> We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history >>> there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good >>> to >>> save some for next time ;-) >>> >>> I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at >>> them. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> Larry T >>> http://youroil.net >>> http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing >>> http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Great instructions - thanks. >>>> I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville >>>> >>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>>> a >>>> visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't >>>> recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the >>>> >>>> >>> breakfast >>> >>> >>>> was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>> Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm >>>>> planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. >>>>> Looking >>>>> at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd >>>>> llike >>>>> to take a look and consider some of the same places? >>>>> >>>>> As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - >>>>> one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it >>>>> as >>>>> a >>>>> giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a >>>>> looseness >>>>> when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you >>>>> >>>>> >>>> turn. >>> >>> >>>> Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and >>>>> place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 >>>>> bolts >>>>> holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then >>>>> remove >>>>> the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer >>>>> bearing. >>>>> Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing >>>>> will >>>>> fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw >>>>> >>>>> >>>> driver >>> >>> >>>> to >>>>> remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the >>>>> inner >>>>> WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center >>>>> >>>>> >>>> of >>> >>> >>>> the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the >>>>> WB >>>>> that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub >>>>> and >>>>> slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so >>>>> it >>>>> doesn&
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the working apple pickers who need to make a living wage. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective family-owned PYO orchards? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next time ;-) I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at them. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo Great instructions - thanks. I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville and a visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the breakfast was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Andrew, Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. Looking at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd llike to take a look and consider some of the same places? As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it as a giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a looseness when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 bolts holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then remove the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer bearing. Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing will fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver to remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the inner WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the WB that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub and slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I say "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once done, flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB dealer - it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for each wheel. Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) into the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before putting the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the actual WBs). Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap. There's a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio static - my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty). Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down. This is where "feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using the tip of a scrrewdriver to move the washer back and forth. A small amount of force should be needed but you should not have to really put weight behind it. Kind of like the force to move a 10# weight. Too tight will cause the WBs to overheat and fail quickly. Next put the caliper (now's a good time to replace the brake pads) wheel /tire and you're pretty much done. Now you can do the other side ;-) Now come back and visit Va again - there's a lot to see! ;-)Good luck - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Nope, wish I did -- I used to drive thru there twice a week - lived in Frostburg and worked in Chester - beautiful drive but after 3 months it got old. Finally bought a house (have been here 21+ years) and moved ourselves - what a PITA that was - Anyway, when the apples were being picked and processed I could smell that wonderful odor when I was still 10+ miles away. I'd love to live in that area - wonder what the housing market is like there - hmmm... but I'd have to move us again. Hmmm They might be worth the drive - a bushel or 2 -- Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective family-owned PYO orchards? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next time ;-) I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at them. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > Great instructions - thanks. > I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville and > a > visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. > Can't > recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the breakfast > was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >>Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm >> planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. >> Looking >> at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd >> llike >> to take a look and consider some of the same places? >> >>As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of >> sounds - >> one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe >> it >> as >> a >> giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a >> looseness >> when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. >> >>Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up >> and >> place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 >> bolts >> holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then >> remove >> the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer >> bearing. >> Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing >> will >> fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver >> to >> remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the >> inner >> WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of >> the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of >> the >> WB >> that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the >> hub >> and >> slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so >> it >> doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When >> I >> say >> "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once >> done, >> flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. >> >>Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB >> dealer - >> it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube >> in >> half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container >> for >> each >> wheel. >> >>Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) >> into >> the hub and place grease into the center porti
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for apples that don't cost $2.00/lb. DO you know of any cost-effective family-owned PYO orchards? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thx Andrew, > Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of > fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! > > We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history > there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good > to > save some for next time ;-) > > I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at > them. > > Take Care, > Larry T > http://youroil.net > http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing > http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > > > > Great instructions - thanks. > > I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville > and > > a > > visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't > > recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the > breakfast > > was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi Andrew, > >>Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm > >> planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. > >> Looking > >> at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd > >> llike > >> to take a look and consider some of the same places? > >> > >>As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - > >> one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it > >> as > >> a > >> giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a > >> looseness > >> when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you > turn. > >> > >>Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and > >> place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 > >> bolts > >> holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then > >> remove > >> the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer > >> bearing. > >> Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing > >> will > >> fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw > driver > >> to > >> remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the > >> inner > >> WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center > of > >> the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the > >> WB > >> that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub > >> and > >> slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it > >> doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I > >> say > >> "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once > >> done, > >> flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. > >> > >>Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB > >> dealer - > >> it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in > >> half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for > >> each > >> wheel. > >> > >>Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) into > >> the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before > >> putting > >> the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the > >> actual > >> WBs). Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap. > >> There's > >> a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio > >> static - > >> my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty). > >> > >>Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down. This is where > >> "feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using > the >
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next time ;-) I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops at them. Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > Great instructions - thanks. > I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville and > a > visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't > recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the breakfast > was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >>Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm >> planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911. >> Looking >> at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd >> llike >> to take a look and consider some of the same places? >> >>As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - >> one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it >> as >> a >> giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a >> looseness >> when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. >> >>Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and >> place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 >> bolts >> holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then >> remove >> the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer >> bearing. >> Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing >> will >> fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver >> to >> remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the >> inner >> WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of >> the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the >> WB >> that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub >> and >> slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it >> doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I >> say >> "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once >> done, >> flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. >> >>Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB >> dealer - >> it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in >> half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for >> each >> wheel. >> >>Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) into >> the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before >> putting >> the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the >> actual >> WBs). Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap. >> There's >> a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio >> static - >> my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty). >> >>Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down. This is where >> "feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using the >> tip of a scrrewdriver to move the washer back and forth. A small amount >> of >> force should be needed but you should not have to really put weight >> behind >> it. Kind of like the force to move a 10# weight. Too tight will cause >> the >> WBs to overheat and fail quickly. Next put the caliper (now's a good >> time >> to replace the brake pads) wheel /tire and you're pretty much done. Now >> you can do the other side ;-) >> >>Now come back and visit Va again - there's a lot to see! >> ;-)Good luck - >> >> Take Care, >> Larry T >> http://youroil.net >> http://members.rennlist.org/oil/
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Great instructions - thanks. I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville and a visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well. Can't recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the breakfast was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Andrew, >Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm > planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911.Looking > at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd > llike > to take a look and consider some of the same places? > >As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - > one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it as > a > giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a > looseness > when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. > >Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and > place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 bolts > holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then remove > the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer bearing. > Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing will > fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver > to > remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the inner > WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of > the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the WB > that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub and > slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it > doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I say > "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once done, > flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. > >Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB dealer - > it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in > half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for > each > wheel. > >Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) into > the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before > putting > the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the actual > WBs). Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap. There's > a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio static - > my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty). > >Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down. This is where > "feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using the > tip of a scrrewdriver to move the washer back and forth. A small amount of > force should be needed but you should not have to really put weight behind > it. Kind of like the force to move a 10# weight. Too tight will cause the > WBs to overheat and fail quickly. Next put the caliper (now's a good time > to replace the brake pads) wheel /tire and you're pretty much done. Now > you can do the other side ;-) > >Now come back and visit Va again - there's a lot to see! > ;-)Good luck - > > Take Care, > Larry T > http://youroil.net > http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing > http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:30 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > > > > We took our first long trip in the 1983 30TD - from D.C. to Barboursville > > and Gordonsville in the Blue Ridge Piedmont country of Virginia. We > drove > > along country lanes and charming little untouched towns, viewing miles of > > lovely open spaces. We visited James Madison's estate - Montpelier - > > which > > was recently restored and now open to the public. Well worth the $14 > > admission charge. What was most interesting to me was the amount of work > > they had to do to DEconsruct the mega-additions that the DuPont family > had > > put on the original house. Marion DuPont died without heirs, and willed > > the property to the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Two > decades > > and multiple millions of $$ later, it is now another back to its > original > > 1850 configuration and a Monticel
Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
Hi Andrew, Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va. We live near Petersburg and I'm planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911.Looking at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary I'd llike to take a look and consider some of the same places? As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds - one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe it as a giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise. You may also feel a looseness when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you turn. Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2 bolts holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then remove the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer bearing. Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing will fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt. Use a screw driver to remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the inner WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the center of the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race (the solid part of the WB that the bearings ride upon) that portrudes into the center of the hub and slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so it doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When I say "tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once done, flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race. Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB dealer - it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube in half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container for each wheel. Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer) into the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before putting the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the actual WBs). Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap. There's a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio static - my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty). Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down. This is where "feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using the tip of a scrrewdriver to move the washer back and forth. A small amount of force should be needed but you should not have to really put weight behind it. Kind of like the force to move a 10# weight. Too tight will cause the WBs to overheat and fail quickly. Next put the caliper (now's a good time to replace the brake pads) wheel /tire and you're pretty much done. Now you can do the other side ;-) Now come back and visit Va again - there's a lot to see! ;-)Good luck - Take Care, Larry T http://youroil.net http://members.rennlist.org/oil/ - Oil Testing http://members.rennlist.org/webercarbs/ - Carb & Jet Settings: - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo > We took our first long trip in the 1983 30TD - from D.C. to Barboursville > and Gordonsville in the Blue Ridge Piedmont country of Virginia. We drove > along country lanes and charming little untouched towns, viewing miles of > lovely open spaces. We visited James Madison's estate - Montpelier - > which > was recently restored and now open to the public. Well worth the $14 > admission charge. What was most interesting to me was the amount of work > they had to do to DEconsruct the mega-additions that the DuPont family had > put on the original house. Marion DuPont died without heirs, and willed > the property to the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Two decades > and multiple millions of $$ later, it is now another back to its original > 1850 configuration and a Monticello -like attraction (Jefferson's estate). > En route, everything worked well with the TD except I was concerned by > noise > that MAY indicate worn bearings. Can someone please describe the audible > (or other) symptoms of worn front wheel bearings? I haven't had a problem > with worn bearings for 20 years so have forgotten what the symptoms are. > > Andrew > 1983 300TD > 318 K miles > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _
[MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo
We took our first long trip in the 1983 30TD - from D.C. to Barboursville and Gordonsville in the Blue Ridge Piedmont country of Virginia. We drove along country lanes and charming little untouched towns, viewing miles of lovely open spaces. We visited James Madison's estate - Montpelier - which was recently restored and now open to the public. Well worth the $14 admission charge. What was most interesting to me was the amount of work they had to do to DEconsruct the mega-additions that the DuPont family had put on the original house. Marion DuPont died without heirs, and willed the property to the National Trust for Historic Preservation. Two decades and multiple millions of $$ later, it is now another back to its original 1850 configuration and a Monticello -like attraction (Jefferson's estate). En route, everything worked well with the TD except I was concerned by noise that MAY indicate worn bearings. Can someone please describe the audible (or other) symptoms of worn front wheel bearings? I haven't had a problem with worn bearings for 20 years so have forgotten what the symptoms are. Andrew 1983 300TD 318 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
