Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Had a friend who got spots of black grease on his dress pants from 
fixing his diesel while on a trip. He sprayed the spots with starting 
ether and wiped them with a rag or paper towel several times and the 
spots were soon gone.  Been meaning to try that on two jackets soiled 
with black oil.  I'll report back if I ever remember to do it.


Back in the 1930s something people called naphtha or cleaning fluid 
was a popular cleaner.  I was sometimes sent down to the corner filling 
station with a jug for naphtha or spirits.  I think it was just 
white gas such as is found in lighters or camp stoves.  Lots of wool 
clothing back then, which couldn't be washed in water, was usually taken 
to a dry cleaner.  The naphtha was probably used to spot clean the 
wool clothing.  Might work for leather but leather would have to be 
re-oiled afterwards.

Gerry


On 12/28/2013 10:51 PM, OK Don wrote:

Now you've gotten me thinking about this - I'm going to try some Goop or
other water-less hand cleaner on a pair of leather gloves that I turned
almost black with old grease. If successful, I'll report back. If not, I'll
just save them for the next very dirty job.


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:05:34 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
wrote:


  I got to
wondering what I should do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get
oil stained, but not oil soaked. I have several pairs that I would like
to clean up, but only if I can do so with minimal effort, as they are
not expensive gloves. Putting them in the laundry will shrink and
stiffen them. What would happen if I put them in the dishwasher
(assuming I don't get caught)?

I would guess that would be worse. There is a lot of water flying around
in dishwashers, and the soaps are stronger.









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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
Hmmm, perhaps the same leather cleaner/rejuvenater we use on leather MB
seats? Leatherique?


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing the
 shop background noises and sound of the machinery/tools enhanced the
 experience for me.
 Seeing that his gloves got oil on them, I got to wondering what I should
 do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get oil stained, but not oil
 soaked. I have several pairs that I would like to clean up, but only if I
 can do so with minimal effort, as they are not expensive gloves. Putting
 them in the laundry will shrink and stiffen them. What would happen if I
 put them in the dishwasher (assuming I don't get caught)?

 Jerry
 82 240D


 You won't get them to look new.  Leather likes animal oils.  Mink oil.
  Neatsfoot oil is a common leather dressing, but I have seen neither a neat
 or its foot. (dunno what is in it) Our ancestors and those in bear country
 used bear grease to treat leather.

 My guess is you could clean them to some extent with saddle soap, then
 treat with mink oil.

 soap and water will remove the natural oils and they might break when you
 tried to get them un-stiffened.

 you can clean polished leather surfaces lightly with soap and water, but
 you don't want to soak them in water.

 Neatsfoot oil was used to keep harness leather in condition. (unless
 someone happened to trap mink and render the fat.)  They are nasty smelly
 lil things.

 Any saddle/tack shop or western store should have mink oil, saddle soap
 and neatsfoot oil.  Some farm stores will have some, none, one or all


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread Fmiser
 Dieselhead wrote:

 Neatsfoot oil is a common leather dressing, but I have seen 
 neither a neat or its foot. (dunno what is in it)

Neat is an old, old term for cow.

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neat

Definition of NEAT
the common domestic bovine (Bos taurus)
Origin of NEAT
 Middle English neet, from Old English nēat; akin to Old High
 German nōz head of cattle, Old English nēotan to make use of,
 Lithuanian nauda use First Known Use: before 12th century

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread Dwight Giles
In antique cars   trucks  with vacuum wipers the sweep inside motor was
leather. Had to use neatsfoot oil to swell  soften leather to produce
enough vacuum. I carried it in my 50 dodge 1/2 ton.
On Dec 29, 2013 8:20 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dieselhead wrote:

  Neatsfoot oil is a common leather dressing, but I have seen
  neither a neat or its foot. (dunno what is in it)

 Neat is an old, old term for cow.

 From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neat

 Definition of NEAT
 the common domestic bovine (Bos taurus)
 Origin of NEAT
  Middle English neet, from Old English nēat; akin to Old High
  German nōz head of cattle, Old English nēotan to make use of,
  Lithuanian nauda use First Known Use: before 12th century

 --Philip

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[MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Jerry Herrman
Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing the shop 
background noises and sound of the machinery/tools enhanced the experience for 
me.
Seeing that his gloves got oil on them, I got to wondering what I should do 
with my canvas/leather gloves when they get oil stained, but not oil soaked. I 
have several pairs that I would like to clean up, but only if I can do so with 
minimal effort, as they are not expensive gloves. Putting them in the laundry 
will shrink and stiffen them. What would happen if I put them in the dishwasher 
(assuming I don't get caught)? 

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread G Mann
I believe, on close inspection, you will find the assembly guy wearing a
type of work glove that is a cotton glove with the fingers and palm coated
with some type of silicone like material that is both tough and oil
resistant.  The inside of the glove, being cotton is quite comfortable to
wear in a hands on work environment, as the cotton wicks away normal hand
sweat unlike nitrile or latex surgical glove.

I have been using this kind of work glove for the past two years rather
than leather. They are less expensive, hold up well, and cheap enough that
once contaminated, I don't feel cheated to dispose of them. Unlike leather
gloves.

The tactile feel of this kind of glove is surprisingly good in being able
to pick up small parts for assembly.


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing the
 shop background noises and sound of the machinery/tools enhanced the
 experience for me.
 Seeing that his gloves got oil on them, I got to wondering what I should
 do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get oil stained, but not oil
 soaked. I have several pairs that I would like to clean up, but only if I
 can do so with minimal effort, as they are not expensive gloves. Putting
 them in the laundry will shrink and stiffen them. What would happen if I
 put them in the dishwasher (assuming I don't get caught)?

 Jerry
 82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Rick Knoble

 Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:56:18 -0700
 From: g2ma...@gmail.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com

 The inside of the glove, being cotton is quite comfortable to
 wear in a hands on work environment, as the cotton wicks away normal hand
 sweat unlike nitrile or latex surgical glove.

These wouldn't be bad either. A little pricey though.

http://www.qualitytoolsforless.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=12409

Or from Gary's favorite West coast parts stealer...

https://mercedessource.com/store/jolly-green-hd-super-gloves-10-pak-5-pair

Only a little over 100% mark-up over low retail

I am in the wrong bidness...

Rick  
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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Craig
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:05:34 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
wrote:

 Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing
 the shop background noises and sound of the machinery/tools enhanced
 the experience for me. Seeing that his gloves got oil on them, I got to
 wondering what I should do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get
 oil stained, but not oil soaked. I have several pairs that I would like
 to clean up, but only if I can do so with minimal effort, as they are
 not expensive gloves. Putting them in the laundry will shrink and
 stiffen them. What would happen if I put them in the dishwasher
 (assuming I don't get caught)? 

I would guess that would be worse. There is a lot of water flying around
in dishwashers, and the soaps are stronger.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread OK Don
Now you've gotten me thinking about this - I'm going to try some Goop or
other water-less hand cleaner on a pair of leather gloves that I turned
almost black with old grease. If successful, I'll report back. If not, I'll
just save them for the next very dirty job.


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:05:34 -0800 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com
 wrote:

   I got to
  wondering what I should do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get
  oil stained, but not oil soaked. I have several pairs that I would like
  to clean up, but only if I can do so with minimal effort, as they are
  not expensive gloves. Putting them in the laundry will shrink and
  stiffen them. What would happen if I put them in the dishwasher
  (assuming I don't get caught)?

 I would guess that would be worse. There is a lot of water flying around
 in dishwashers, and the soaps are stronger.






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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Dieselhead
Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing 
the shop background noises and sound of the machinery/tools enhanced 
the experience for me.
Seeing that his gloves got oil on them, I got to wondering what I 
should do with my canvas/leather gloves when they get oil stained, 
but not oil soaked. I have several pairs that I would like to clean 
up, but only if I can do so with minimal effort, as they are not 
expensive gloves. Putting them in the laundry will shrink and 
stiffen them. What would happen if I put them in the dishwasher 
(assuming I don't get caught)?


Jerry
82 240D



You won't get them to look new.  Leather likes animal oils.  Mink 
oil.  Neatsfoot oil is a common leather dressing, but I have seen 
neither a neat or its foot. (dunno what is in it) Our ancestors and 
those in bear country used bear grease to treat leather.


My guess is you could clean them to some extent with saddle soap, 
then treat with mink oil.


soap and water will remove the natural oils and they might break when 
you tried to get them un-stiffened.


you can clean polished leather surfaces lightly with soap and water, 
but you don't want to soak them in water.


Neatsfoot oil was used to keep harness leather in condition. 
(unless someone happened to trap mink and render the fat.)  They are 
nasty smelly lil things.


Any saddle/tack shop or western store should have mink oil, saddle 
soap and neatsfoot oil.  Some farm stores will have some, none, one 
or all


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Dieselhead


Now you've gotten me thinking about this - I'm going to try some Goop or
other water-less hand cleaner on a pair of leather gloves that I turned
almost black with old grease. If successful, I'll report back. If not, I'll
just save them for the next very dirty job.



Yeah, I used to keep several pairs of the cheap leather palm gloves 
for various tasks.  The ones black from soot were used for the worst 
things, like moving oil from the diesel to the sucker, and from the 
sucker to the jugs, and from the jugs to the disposal barrel.  I'd 
keep another pair for digging, etc.  and newer pairs for light/clean 
stuff, like moving lumber.  Eventually the diesel ones got thrown 
out, and the others moved down the line.


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-28 Thread Dieselhead

I believe, on close inspection, you will find the assembly guy wearing a
type of work glove that is a cotton glove with the fingers and palm coated
with some type of silicone like material that is both tough and oil
resistant.  The inside of the glove, being cotton is quite comfortable to
wear in a hands on work environment, as the cotton wicks away normal hand
sweat unlike nitrile or latex surgical glove.

I have been using this kind of work glove for the past two years rather
than leather. They are less expensive, hold up well, and cheap enough that
once contaminated, I don't feel cheated to dispose of them. Unlike leather
gloves.

The tactile feel of this kind of glove is surprisingly good in being able
to pick up small parts for assembly.


Once again, Herr Mann is right on.  I finally broke down and bought a 
pair of these


http://www.harborfreight.com/mechanics-gloves-large-93640.html  maybe 
a year ago.


Nice thing is, I don't get cut up or scratched up as much as working 
with bare hands.  Much more comfortable over time than nitrile 
gloves.  Kind of like wearing the naval officer's white gloves as far 
as feel goes, but much tougher.  And, when I am done, I throw them 
and my bibs and shirt and whatever in the washer.


Wore 'em today.

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