Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread clay
Alex, I am thinking Coke, not pepsi, to soak that out of there.  Drench in 
coke, let it soak, then extract with shop vac.  Rinse with water, then brake 
cleaner, then douse with coke, repeat until it goes away.  My spill is in the 
driveway, and I am going to use a 2 liter of coke and grease cutter to try to 
wash it away.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Sep 2, 2013 3:50 PM, "clay"  wrote:
>> We did a diff fluid swap and got
>> molasses which has left a stench to
>> be rivaled by the reek of hellfire.
> 
> Anyone got any tips on getting that diff fluid stink out of things?   I
> spilled a quarter-size amount in the back of my Suburban months ago and
> despite repeated scrubbing of the carpet with Simple Green and hot water
> you can still smell it.
> 
> Alex
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread clay
This pig is turning into a pearl.  Only big issue was that transmission.  All 
the rest is standard old car stuff.  Any used car will have needs that have not 
been met.  Sometimes you get the car that really was ignored, but if you put a 
modicum of elbow grease towards it, the thing comes back to life better than it 
should.

Other items shop found were flex disk, minor electrical parts, fuses, and the 
fluids.  Brakes pads are good enough, but should have attention paid to them 
sooner than later (DOT 4 was replaced).  Even the MB CPO cars do not get work 
done prior to being placed on the floor.  Maybe fluids, but not a full take 
down and replace of worn items.  Instead, the car fails to meet CPO and goes on 
the lot or to auction, to be sold by a tertiary level car lot that will not put 
labor into it either.

Looking for the replacement for the w124 E300, we saw a number of w210 e300 
that were in far worse shape than the SE, needed much more, and cost four times 
as much with far less quality.  I grant, this is not a W220 in showroom 
condition, then again, even Victor had minor niggling items that needed to be 
addressed.  I was 900 miles away from a Service A, will need to replace tires 
before winter, it throws codes for no good reason for things that are not 
failed, and Victor does not blow the SIberian ICE COLD AC that the SE does.



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, m...@voyager.net wrote:

>> There have been no orders to keep me away from #1 boy's car.  That thing
>> is becoming more than the pig it was treated like.
> 
> Do we say Attaboy, or should have bought a decent car to begin with
> instead of sinking money into a sow's ear?
> 
> Mitch.
> 
 
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 2, 2013 3:50 PM, "clay"  wrote:
> We did a diff fluid swap and got
> molasses which has left a stench to
> be rivaled by the reek of hellfire.

Anyone got any tips on getting that diff fluid stink out of things?   I
spilled a quarter-size amount in the back of my Suburban months ago and
despite repeated scrubbing of the carpet with Simple Green and hot water
you can still smell it.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread mlh
> There have been no orders to keep me away from #1 boy's car.  That thing
> is becoming more than the pig it was treated like.

Do we say Attaboy, or should have bought a decent car to begin with
instead of sinking money into a sow's ear?

Mitch.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread clay
So for the fluids have been on my dime.  The trans is all good, as it was 
swapped with a rebuilt once I did a double fluid swap and it still came out 
nasty.

Engine and diff I will keep an eye on to see how they are faring.  Cheap FLAPS 
fluid and filter deal for $24 even though it was castrol synth.  Might have to 
look out for another "oil sale deal" and get fresh filter around Halloween.  
Then we can do M1 for the new year.

There was no way to check fluids beyond the dip stick.  Looked like diesel oil, 
and the trans was thrash when he bought.  Hard to get under to tickle the diff 
in the PnP lot.

clay


On Sep 2, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:50:46 -0700 clay  wrote:
> 
>> There have been no orders to keep me away from #1 boy's car.  That
>> thing is becoming more than the pig it was treated like.  Trans fluid
>> was black as pitch and smelled of outhouse.  Motor oil  was thick as
>> mud, black as coffee and burnt.  We did a diff fluid swap and got
>> molasses which has left a stench to be rivaled by the reek of
>> hellfire.  I am thinking he drives a few thousand miles and we will
>> flush all fluids and filters and change over to M1.  That will reduce
>> the crap and extend the life of the car a little more.
> 
> Sounds like you might want to flush it out a little more and a little
> more quickly. Maybe he should drive it only 1000 miles, put it new
> filters with the same cheap fluids, drive it 2000 miles, and then put
> new filters and M1 in.
> 
> Reminder to self: when looking at a vehicle, look at the lubricants also.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 15:50:46 -0700 clay  wrote:

> There have been no orders to keep me away from #1 boy's car.  That
> thing is becoming more than the pig it was treated like.  Trans fluid
> was black as pitch and smelled of outhouse.  Motor oil  was thick as
> mud, black as coffee and burnt.  We did a diff fluid swap and got
> molasses which has left a stench to be rivaled by the reek of
> hellfire.  I am thinking he drives a few thousand miles and we will
> flush all fluids and filters and change over to M1.  That will reduce
> the crap and extend the life of the car a little more.

Sounds like you might want to flush it out a little more and a little
more quickly. Maybe he should drive it only 1000 miles, put it new
filters with the same cheap fluids, drive it 2000 miles, and then put
new filters and M1 in.

Reminder to self: when looking at a vehicle, look at the lubricants also.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread clay
No, he has forbidden me to work on the car unless I am willing to pay double 
shop time to fix the mess I make.

With that said, I replaced the hood pad yesterday.  Removed the hood from the 
car. Turned it over onto saw horses and removed the rotting hood pad. cleaned 
it up, gave it a coat of paint to protect the scrapes then 3M glue and rolled a 
new pad.  It looks great and reduced heat intrusion to the cabin as well as 
noise.

I was told to mark the location of screws and such to make sure I got it all 
back the way it should be.  Thought about marking it with sharpie or maybe 
paint in some manner.  Decided to drill a vey small hole in the support and 
hood side sheet metal.  That way I can stick a pin in it when I zip it back up. 
 It worked pretty good.  I did have to muck about with the pin to get pressure 
off it, but the hood went on fairly easy.

There have been no orders to keep me away from #1 boy's car.  That thing is 
becoming more than the pig it was treated like.  Trans fluid was black as pitch 
and smelled of outhouse.  Motor oil  was thick as mud, black as coffee and 
burnt.  We did a diff fluid swap and got molasses which has left a stench to be 
rivaled by the reek of hellfire.  I am thinking he drives a few thousand miles 
and we will flush all fluids and filters and change over to M1.  That will 
reduce the crap and extend the life of the car a little more.



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> All this from the guy's whos mechanic wants to put a lock on the hood of his 
> car to keep him from hurting himself.
> 
> Glass houses sir...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 22:36:35 -0700
> From: clay 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> First,
> 
> Women are morons
> 
> Next, 
> 
> Too many clone cars
> 
> And Then,
> 
> What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?
> 
> clay
> 
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:
> 
>>  
>> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
>>  
>>   
>> Fred Moir
>> Lynn MA
>> Diesel preferred.
>> ___
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Milford, NH is actually a pretty nice place. I looked at a TDI there a couple 
months ago. Had some fantastic ribs. Its a suburb of Manchester also known as 
"Manch-Vegas" for the many bars and nightlife attractions.

20k is the definition of city, its where you cross from town to city. My town 
of Winchendon is also about 5,000. We live right in town so no keys in the car 
but I don't bother to lock the car at night. That said I don't keep anything in 
the car either. Once in 7 years somebody got into the car and stole my spare 
change. He probably needed it more than I do.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:58:37 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I guess me.  I am that sort of idiot apparently.  The key is in my 300d now
and the only time it ever comes out is if I go out of town somewhere.

Next, is 20k people really a small town these days?  I am pretty sure we
are still under 5k by a long shot downtown Watkins Glen.  My home town,
Burdett, heck, maybe 1k people tops.  We all leave the keys in cars around
here at home.  The door on my house has not been locked in 20 years.

I am so glad to live in a REAL small town.

Mike
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond
All this from the guy's whos mechanic wants to put a lock on the hood of his 
car to keep him from hurting himself.

Glass houses sir...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 22:36:35 -0700
From: clay 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

First,

Women are morons

Next, 

Too many clone cars

And Then,

What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?

clay

On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:

> 
>http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
> 
>  
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
> ___
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread mlh

> Next, is 20k people really a small town these days?  I am pretty sure we
> are still under 5k by a long shot downtown Watkins Glen.  My home town,
> Burdett, heck, maybe 1k people tops.  We all leave the keys in cars around
> here at home.  The door on my house has not been locked in 20 years.
>
> I am so glad to live in a REAL small town.

At least one of my small town high school teachers didn't believe in
locked doors. With the number of kids visiting his house over the years,
hundreds of people must have known it. Yet no home invasions ever, AFAIK.
He left the garage wide open, with a message board on the door from the
garage to the house, so I never saw a reason to go in if nobody was home.
He didn't leave keys in cars though.
I never lock my cars, unless I park at Walmart or go to the city, but I
pocket the key.

Mitch.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread Michael Canfield
I guess me.  I am that sort of idiot apparently.  The key is in my 300d now
and the only time it ever comes out is if I go out of town somewhere.

Next, is 20k people really a small town these days?  I am pretty sure we
are still under 5k by a long shot downtown Watkins Glen.  My home town,
Burdett, heck, maybe 1k people tops.  We all leave the keys in cars around
here at home.  The door on my house has not been locked in 20 years.

I am so glad to live in a REAL small town.

Mike
On Sep 2, 2013 1:36 AM, "clay"  wrote:

> First,
>
> Women are morons
>
> Next,
>
> Too many clone cars
>
> And Then,
>
> What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?
>
> clay
>
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
> >
> >
> > Fred Moir
> > Lynn MA
> > Diesel preferred.
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread dseretakis
If anything, the boring ass car exchange spiced up their boring ass lives.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:31 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Too many boring ass Camrys, too many boring ass people who drive boring ass 
> Camrys. They deserve each other!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 1:36 AM, clay  wrote:
> 
>> First,
>> 
>> Women are morons
>> 
>> Next, 
>> 
>> Too many clone cars
>> 
>> And Then,
>> 
>> What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fred Moir
>>> Lynn MA
>>> Diesel preferred.
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-02 Thread dseretakis
Too many boring ass Camrys, too many boring ass people who drive boring ass 
Camrys. They deserve each other!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2013, at 1:36 AM, clay  wrote:

> First,
> 
> Women are morons
> 
> Next, 
> 
> Too many clone cars
> 
> And Then,
> 
> What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?
> 
> clay
> 
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:
> 
>> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Moir
>> Lynn MA
>> Diesel preferred.
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread clay
First,

Women are morons

Next, 

Too many clone cars

And Then,

What sort of idiot leaves keys in a car on purpose?

clay

On Sep 1, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:

> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
> 
>  
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas  writes:

> So what are the odds of 2 identical trucks, same ignition switch, in 
> this little town, being parked near one another at the same little 
> grocery store at the same time?

On a old GM the key cylinder would wear to the point where any key would
start any car.  Happened to my parent's '71 Buick.

-- 
Allan Streib

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Frederick Moir wrote:

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html


I tried to do that once with a Plymouth Horizon, white, blue interior, in a huge 
parking ramp. When my key didn't fit in the door, I noticed the U of M sticker 
and knew why the key didn't fit.


Mitch

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff
In the late 50s and early 60s my Dad did repo work for the commercial side of 
GM (YMACC) and had a set of master keys that fit all GM products.  I recall 
seeing them as a kid, and there weren't that many of them in the set.

Dan


On Sep 1, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> In the 60's, pretty high, they didn't use many key variations (on the order 
> of 10k or so on models they sold millions of).
> 
> I've heard the same story from several people.  Knowing GM, they may have 
> even used the SAME key on identical vehicles.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread WILTON
Late afternoon in '59, I put SWMBO off for quick shopping at a store in 
downtown Lincoln, NE; no parking spaces nearby, so I drove around block 
coupla times; third time around, I pulled up in front of the store beside 
identical black and white, '56 4-dr Bel Air Chevy exactly like ours.  SWMBO 
was sitting there in it waiting patiently; 'fantastic look on her face when 
she realized it was I who tooted horn in our identical car sitting in the 
street.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone


When i was a kid, I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.  They lived 
on farms near this little town, maybe 20k people if that.  One day I go to 
the grocery with my granddaddy, he is driving this gold/white chebbie 
pickup he had.  I was maybe 10 or so.  We go into the store, get whatever, 
come back out, get in the truck, he puts the key in and starts it up.  I 
am a bit muddled and say "I don't think this is your truck."  He says sure 
it is.  I say no, you had xyz in here, and where is your whatever, and he 
looks and says yeah you're right.  So we look around the parking lot, and 
there sat his truck next row over, identical to this one.  So we get our 
stuff, and go get in his truck and drive off.


So what are the odds of 2 identical trucks, same ignition switch, in this 
little town, being parked near one another at the same little grocery 
store at the same time?


--R


On 9/1/13 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

What are the odds that two people will leave keys in their cars?  Must be
the most honest town in America.


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Frederick Moir 
wrote:



http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html


Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Peter Frederick
In the 60's, pretty high, they didn't use many key variations (on the order of 
10k or so on models they sold millions of).

I've heard the same story from several people.  Knowing GM, they may have even 
used the SAME key on identical vehicles.

Peter


-Original Message-
>From: Rich Thomas 
>Sent: Sep 1, 2013 11:04 AM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone
>
>When i was a kid, I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.  They 
>lived on farms near this little town, maybe 20k people if that.  One day 
>I go to the grocery with my granddaddy, he is driving this gold/white 
>chebbie pickup he had.  I was maybe 10 or so.  We go into the store, get 
>whatever, come back out, get in the truck, he puts the key in and starts 
>it up.  I am a bit muddled and say "I don't think this is your truck."  
>He says sure it is.  I say no, you had xyz in here, and where is your 
>whatever, and he looks and says yeah you're right.  So we look around 
>the parking lot, and there sat his truck next row over, identical to 
>this one.  So we get our stuff, and go get in his truck and drive off.
>
>So what are the odds of 2 identical trucks, same ignition switch, in 
>this little town, being parked near one another at the same little 
>grocery store at the same time?
>
>--R
>
>
>On 9/1/13 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> What are the odds that two people will leave keys in their cars?  Must be
>> the most honest town in America.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Fred Moir
>>> Lynn MA
>>> Diesel preferred.
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>>
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>>
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>>
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>
>
>
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas
When i was a kid, I spent summers with my grandparents in KY.  They 
lived on farms near this little town, maybe 20k people if that.  One day 
I go to the grocery with my granddaddy, he is driving this gold/white 
chebbie pickup he had.  I was maybe 10 or so.  We go into the store, get 
whatever, come back out, get in the truck, he puts the key in and starts 
it up.  I am a bit muddled and say "I don't think this is your truck."  
He says sure it is.  I say no, you had xyz in here, and where is your 
whatever, and he looks and says yeah you're right.  So we look around 
the parking lot, and there sat his truck next row over, identical to 
this one.  So we get our stuff, and go get in his truck and drive off.


So what are the odds of 2 identical trucks, same ignition switch, in 
this little town, being parked near one another at the same little 
grocery store at the same time?


--R


On 9/1/13 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

What are the odds that two people will leave keys in their cars?  Must be
the most honest town in America.


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:


http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html


Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Craig
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 06:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir
 wrote:

> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html

"The trouble is there are an awful lot of Camrys the same color, so we
both made the mistake of leaving our keys in the car, which led to the
problem,” Bennett said.

Interesting


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What are the odds that two people will leave keys in their cars?  Must be
the most honest town in America.


On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Frederick Moir wrote:

>
> http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html
>
>
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] Drive-a-clone

2013-09-01 Thread Frederick Moir
http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/woman-drives-off-in-wrong-car-in-milford-new-hampshire/-/9848876/21737994/-/d58mb3z/-/index.html

 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com