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Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why do we allow this vermin to dictate to us? Is there any doubt he is guilty? We are wasting an awful of of money on this trial it seems. I know there's no alternative and everyone gets their day in court but can't we treat someone who is probably on camera shooting people like a suspect? If he was wearing a beard when he was shooting people he should not be allowed to change his appearance for the trial IMO. Doesn't matter what I think but that's my .02 cents... LarryT 91 300D On 12/21/2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There really should be a simple answer to this. Does a Jewish soldier get to wear his Kippah to court if he does something wrong? I doubt it. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 9:52 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood Shave the son of a bitch! He signed a contract with our government that says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service. Make him abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted! Mike On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.military.com/**topics/nidal-hasanhttp://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. Agreed. I only wish that personnel stationed at Fort Hood would've been permitted to carry sidearms. We would not be having this discussion if that were the case. How much irrefutable proof has to be provided before it becomes obvious that gun free zones only work to provide target rich environments for those not inclined to obey laws. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the commander in charge] firing squad. We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of the offending criminal. Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be? Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day following the attack. We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus rewarded. Question is: Why do we play these stupid games. Coat his worthless ass with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass. Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally. Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS. Grant... --- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times--- On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is this not a Court Marshall? Is he not a soldier first just like any other soldier? He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules of appearance. Will he appear in court in uniform? If so then he should prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like your opinion. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 5:15 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the commander in charge] firing squad. We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of the offending criminal. Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be? Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day following the attack. We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus rewarded. Question is: Why do we play these stupid games. Coat his worthless ass with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass. Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally. Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS. Grant... --- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times--- On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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According to the words of the commander in chief this is workplace violence not an act of terror. As workplace violence it is treated differently and those murdered victims families are denied veterans benefits. As an act of war by a terrorist they would be KIA with full benefits. Yet another reason why I, as a veteran, took an oath to the Constitution not to the commander, to protect and defend from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. That oath can not be un-taken. How are your Mercedes all working? Grant... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Is this not a Court Marshall? Is he not a soldier first just like any other soldier? He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules of appearance. Will he appear in court in uniform? If so then he should prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform. Mike On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they just leave him alone. Forcibly doing anything to a murder suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in the administration of justice. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating. I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews require it to be worn at all times. Goyim Dan On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: How are your Mercedes all working? The 124 is parked while I drive SWMBO's Subaru trying to diagnose an intermittent problem--symptoms are periodic jerky unintended deceleration, like fuel starvation or an ignition issue. It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that when I get back to the 300D I'll have to bail it out before I can drive it--it has a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't figure out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in? R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Date: Fri, December 21, 2012 9:14 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: How are your Mercedes all working? It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that when I get back to the 300D I'll have to bail it out before I can drive it--it has a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't figure out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 21, 2012 6:42 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in? Good question. Didn't occur to me to check 'em. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ft Hood
http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
