Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Be prepared to tear the top of the engine apart to replace the oil cooler seals 

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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Bluetec engine is worth any trouble shooting hassles.  Amazing fuel
> economy and will last at least 2 million miles.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:48 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m
>> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and
>> SRS lights? If not, walk away.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
 What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
 
 Bob R
 
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>> Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My indy was unable to fully diagnose the CEL on my 2014 GLK using his
handheld system (he's an MB certified tech who had worked at a local
dealership).  He could only hazard a guess that it was a bad sensor, but no
guarantee, so I took it to the dealer to avoid throwing money at the
problem.  The dealer's proprietary diagnostic computer revealed cracks in
both air charge hoses, which I had them replace.  This led to a huge
improvement in fuel economy and better overall performance, so I felt it
was worth the money.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What Floyd says.
>
> If you’re not going to do most of the work yourself, it would be a waste
> of money to invest in a STAR system. One of the cheaper handheld things can
> be helpful in narrowing problems down and making sure your mechanic doesn’t
> try and extract his monthly boat payment from you.
>
> A properly equipped and configured STAR system will work on MBs from the
> mid 1990s to at least 2012-2014. One other advantage is that in some of the
> later models, like the W211s, it also allows you to enable features that
> are otherwise locked down by the factory. However, that’s some high level
> stuff and not a place to be tinkering.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count.
> >
> > I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You
> can buy the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do
> a lot but not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not
> be able to clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can
> do more.
> >
> > I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of
> some sort, the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would
> probably need the Star clone.
> >
> > The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from
> the 2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every
> time you have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if
> you have the interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a
> Toyota or GM thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe).
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll
> have to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options,
> but they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the
> STAR system?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things
> you can figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get
> expensive.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and
> I’m not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no
> idea.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL
> and SRS lights? If not, walk away.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> >>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> >>>
> >>> Bob R
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
>  From: nore...@craigslist.org
>  Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>  To: azbob...@gmail.com
>  Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500
> (OBO) - Phoenix
> 
>  
>  azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
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>  2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) -
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What Floyd says.

If you’re not going to do most of the work yourself, it would be a waste of 
money to invest in a STAR system. One of the cheaper handheld things can be 
helpful in narrowing problems down and making sure your mechanic doesn’t try 
and extract his monthly boat payment from you.

A properly equipped and configured STAR system will work on MBs from the mid 
1990s to at least 2012-2014. One other advantage is that in some of the later 
models, like the W211s, it also allows you to enable features that are 
otherwise locked down by the factory. However, that’s some high level stuff and 
not a place to be tinkering.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 
> 
> I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can 
> buy the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot 
> but not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able 
> to clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 
> 
> I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some 
> sort, the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would 
> probably need the Star clone. 
> 
> The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
> 2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
> have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
> interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
> thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
>> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
>> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>>> system?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
 figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
 
 -D
 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
> idea. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and 
>> SRS lights? If not, walk away.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 This is more or less true for any car. I think I paid $250 for the VAG-COM 
cable to connect to my VWs and it definitely paid for itself several times. The 
computer is a tool useful for diagnosing a myriad of problems on newer cars. 
Its like a very particular wrench...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:17:17 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 

I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can buy 
the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot but 
not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able to 
clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 

I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some sort, 
the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would probably need 
the Star clone. 

The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>> system?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
 not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
 idea. 
 
 Bob R
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
> lights? If not, walk away.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
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>>> Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>>> Phoenix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 

I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can buy 
the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot but 
not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able to 
clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 

I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some sort, 
the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would probably need 
the Star clone. 

The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>> system?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
 not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
 idea. 
 
 Bob R
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
> lights? If not, walk away.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: nore...@craigslist.org
>>> Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>>> Phoenix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have to 
drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but they’re 
not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
> system?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
>>> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
 lights? If not, walk away.
 
 -D
 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: nore...@craigslist.org
>> Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>> Phoenix
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR system?

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> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
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> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
>> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
>>> lights? If not, walk away.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
> 
> Bob R
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
>> lights? If not, walk away.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-01-12 11:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and
I’m not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have
no idea.


Who's your Mercedes mechanic?
How well does he know computerized diesels?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The Bluetec engine is worth any trouble shooting hassles.  Amazing fuel
economy and will last at least 2 million miles.

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> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m
> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea.
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> > So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and
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> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 

Bob R

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> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
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> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
lights? If not, walk away.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
SRS light could be bad passenger presence switch, or could be a halfass 
crash repair.


CEL could be something serious, or could be that sensor. I'd consider it 
worth a PPI and maybe even try swapping that sensor as part of the 
inspection. You've got to deal with that CEL if you buy it, might as 
well troubleshoot it when you can still avoid buying it.


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[MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, the intake flap (“swirl flaps”) are another issue these engines are 
affected by, and the fix is pretty significant. As long as they don’t fail in 
the “bad” position (closed? I can’t recall) you can more or less ignore it, but 
it’s likely to throw a CEL that you can’t clear.

-D

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> Massive oil leaks that require removal of everything on top and of engine to 
> replace oil cooler seals, stretched timing chains, leaking rear main seals, 
> swirel motor issues 
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>> First there was black death, then there was cat pee.
>> I think 2007 is near the end of the black death era.
>> 
>> CEL, a manifold/boost pressure sensor would do that.
>> 
>> SRS, a bad passenger seat switch would do that.
>> So would a crash that caused any SRS components to deploy if they didn't 
>> reset the computer after replacing it.
>> If not one of those, hope a full feature computer scanner leads you in the 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Massive oil leaks that require removal of everything on top and of engine to 
replace oil cooler seals, stretched timing chains, leaking rear main seals, 
swirel motor issues 

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> First there was black death, then there was cat pee.
> I think 2007 is near the end of the black death era.
> 
> CEL, a manifold/boost pressure sensor would do that.
> 
> SRS, a bad passenger seat switch would do that.
> So would a crash that caused any SRS components to deploy if they didn't 
> reset the computer after replacing it.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

First there was black death, then there was cat pee.
I think 2007 is near the end of the black death era.

CEL, a manifold/boost pressure sensor would do that.

SRS, a bad passenger seat switch would do that.
So would a crash that caused any SRS components to deploy if they didn't 
reset the computer after replacing it.
If not one of those, hope a full feature computer scanner leads you in 
the right direction.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
No I don’t believe it does. 

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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> bang down the price a bit and he wouldn't have too much in it, looks pretty 
> nice.  Does that one need pee juice?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
bang down the price a bit and he wouldn't have too much in it, looks 
pretty nice.  Does that one need pee juice?


--FT

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Should future SIL run away?

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[MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2020-12-30 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Should future SIL run away?

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