Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I wondered if Hammie might be a donor. Dwight Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 09:22:57 To: Diesel List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
I will keep this car until the wheels rust off from it. It will be worth the same for scrap with either heater control. It is worth more to me to have the controls I like to use for the years I drive the car. I like the dual controls the manual system has. I set my side a lot cooler than Toni's side and it makes long trips much better for both of us. Mike On Aug 6, 2011 11:18 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski" wrote: > Its not worth the effort. Not only is the effort huge, as already stated, > but you will devalue your car. > > Put the effort into replacing the vacuum modules, getting a rebuild ACC > unit, and replacing the other little bits that are required for it to work > right. You'll be rewarded with years of reliable service. > > Jaime > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > >> I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a >> 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old >> "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. >> >> Mike >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
Its not worth the effort. Not only is the effort huge, as already stated, but you will devalue your car. Put the effort into replacing the vacuum modules, getting a rebuild ACC unit, and replacing the other little bits that are required for it to work right. You'll be rewarded with years of reliable service. Jaime On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a > 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. > > Mike > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
Peach Parts has a writeup: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W123ACC1Conversion And I've got a 240D just waiting to source parts from... -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:05:49 -0600 From: Craig To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heater swap Message-ID: <20110805160549.75db903b.diese...@pisquared.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:07:29 -0500 Fmiser wrote: > But it's not just the controls. The manual system uses twin > heater cores and twin flow valves. I think that means the > number of holes in the firewall don't match. > > I suspect the rest would be a fairly straight forward swap if > all the parts are available. I have had a manual control car > stripped down that far, but not an ACC so it's just a guess. I would expect that a W123 body is a W123 body regardless of what model it ends up being and that unused holes and such are plugged. As I mentioned, turning a 240D into a 300D as far as the drivetrain was concerned was straightforward, though a lot of work. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
> Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater > controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic > stuff? I like the old "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much > better. Me too! But it's not just the controls. The manual system uses twin heater cores and twin flow valves. I think that means the number of holes in the firewall don't match. I suspect the rest would be a fairly straight forward swap if all the parts are available. I have had a manual control car stripped down that far, but not an ACC so it's just a guess. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 -0400 Michael Canfield wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls > from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old > "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. If you have a source for all the right parts (which is probably more parts than you would think, i.e., you probably need to have a donor 240D that you are going to leave incapacitated), you should be able to make the swap. I found that out when I changed our 240D with an automatic transmission to a naturally-aspirated 300D with a manual transmission. With the major parts from a donor and smaller bits and wear items from Rusty, everything bolted right together and fit the chassis without problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heater swap
Now there's an idea I really like. I miss the simplicity of my 240D's. Dwight 82 300CD(with flaky ACC) 90 300D 2.5t Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Canfield Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:30:11 To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Heater swap I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Heater swap
I was wondering if it is possible to swap out manual heater controls from a 240d into my 300d to replace the automatic stuff? I like the old "playschool knobs" my 82 240 had much better. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
