Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:30:29 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 10:35 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I guess a newer engine like a 500 or 55 M113 would have moah powah
> > than the older 560 M117 but it would be run by nannies
>
> Those m113k nannies are the nannies kids pray for.


I'm not sure I understand this comment, Karl.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Andone with a "D" license show up at your kar & Koffee gatherin's?


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 4:25 PM
Yeah you gotta pay a copart fee then a broker fee too, it adds up on a 
beater In NC it’s easier although some cars are not to the public for 
reasons unclear. I need to find someone here with a license


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Those m113k nannies are the nannies kids pray for.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 10:35 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually that’s an interesting crackpot idea. The wheelbases Of the two
> chassises (126 coupé and 163) are within an inch and body widths and tracks
> are also very close so those aspects would be close fits.
>
> I wonder if the 560 engine would mate up to the AWD drive train or just
> leave the stock ML engine in it. I guess a newer engine like a 500 or 55
> M113 would have moah powah than the older 560 M117 but it would be run by
> nannies
>
> --FT
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> > On Jan 13, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find
> me a wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC
> sitting around!
> >>
> https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s
> >
> > Didn't you buy an SEC or two a while back?
> > 126 or 140?
> > Drop it on top of a W163 frame and you'll have the lift automatically.
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

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Yeah I guess they have been less corrupted than the corruptocrats here

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> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:25:54 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> In NC it’s easier although some cars are not to the public for
>> reasons unclear.
> 
> It's easier in North Carolina than South Carolina?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:25:54 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> In NC it’s easier although some cars are not to the public for
> reasons unclear.

It's easier in North Carolina than South Carolina?


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

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Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I need to find someone here with a license 



https://www.copart.com/brokersmarketmakers/1/

One example I just randomly picked off that list:
https://selenaauto.com/index.php
Your CoPart fees are lower with a dealer, but even a low $200 broker fee won't 
be covered by the reduction in CoPart fees on a $725 car.


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah you gotta pay a copart fee then a broker fee too, it adds up on a beater  
In NC it’s easier although some cars are not to the public for reasons unclear. 
I need to find someone here with a license 

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> On Jan 13, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Unfortunately a private party can't buy from Copart here, you need some sort 
>> of dealer or salvage licence.  An individual can buy in NC though, Copart or 
>> IAAA
> 
> Wow, you're right.
> It's clean title and I can't buy it without a broker.
> 
> In MI, we've got salvage = dealer only
> parts only = only dealers with salvage licenses and can never be road titled, 
> but I've heard of people claiming they successfully converted PO to rebuilt 
> title. IIRC, cost to repair exceeds 80% or 90% of value makes it PO, even it 
> it's worth 2k and the damage is superficial like getting keyed.
> Clean title = I can bid on it
> Clean title dealer only = I can't bid on it, and this is how the donated cars 
> get listed.
> 
> 
> I can see if I can dig up the email addy for a guy in MD with a dealer 
> license, or you can find a broker through CoPart.
> 
> The only 'no license required' ML55 in the country right now is (and I'd 
> gladly give up my wagon and my ML350 to make space for it):
> https://www.copart.com/lot/61321939
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Unfortunately a private party can't buy from Copart here, you need some 
sort of dealer or salvage licence.  An individual can buy in NC though, 
Copart or IAAA




Wow, you're right.
It's clean title and I can't buy it without a broker.

In MI, we've got salvage = dealer only
parts only = only dealers with salvage licenses and can never be road titled, 
but I've heard of people claiming they successfully converted PO to rebuilt 
title. IIRC, cost to repair exceeds 80% or 90% of value makes it PO, even it 
it's worth 2k and the damage is superficial like getting keyed.

Clean title = I can bid on it
Clean title dealer only = I can't bid on it, and this is how the donated cars 
get listed.



I can see if I can dig up the email addy for a guy in MD with a dealer license, 
or you can find a broker through CoPart.


The only 'no license required' ML55 in the country right now is (and I'd gladly 
give up my wagon and my ML350 to make space for it):

https://www.copart.com/lot/61321939

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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Unfortunately a private party can't buy from Copart here, you need some 
sort of dealer or salvage licence.  An individual can buy in NC though, 
Copart or IAAA


--FT

On 1/13/20 4:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

ML 55, clean title, $725 buy it now.
Better act quick, already bid over $600.

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=G=4jgab74e0ya199243 



https://www.copart.com/lot/59558209

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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

ML 55, clean title, $725 buy it now.
Better act quick, already bid over $600.

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=G=4jgab74e0ya199243

https://www.copart.com/lot/59558209

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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

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Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Didn'cha just post a ML55?


Looks like a salvage ML500 (or 320, he didn't give the VIN) with a ML55 badge on 
it. For 4800lb, I think my ML350 scoots along better than it has any right to.
But a rusty or wrecked ML55 would be quite impressive, if not scary, depending 
on the quality/stability of the converted car.


I wonder how the weight of a C126 unibody and interior compares to the W163 
body/interior/hatch.


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was going to take the mityvac over and do that

--FT

On 1/13/20 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Didn'cha just post a ML55?

Better finish the coupe first though.  you should be able to just open 
the bleeders and gravity bleed them again.   RR, LR then RF, LF.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM
Actually that’s an interesting crackpot idea. The wheelbases Of the 
two chassises (126 coupé and 163) are within an inch and body widths 
and tracks are also very close so those aspects would be close fits.


I wonder if the 560 engine would mate up to the AWD drive train or 
just leave the stock ML engine in it. I guess a newer engine like a 
500 or 55 M113 would have moah powah than the older 560 M117 but it 
would be run by nannies


--FT


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Didn'cha just post a ML55?

Better finish the coupe first though.  you should be able to just open 
the bleeders and gravity bleed them again.   RR, LR then RF, LF.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM
Actually that’s an interesting crackpot idea. The wheelbases Of the 
two chassises (126 coupé and 163) are within an inch and body widths 
and tracks are also very close so those aspects would be close fits.


I wonder if the 560 engine would mate up to the AWD drive train or 
just leave the stock ML engine in it. I guess a newer engine like a 
500 or 55 M113 would have moah powah than the older 560 M117 but it 
would be run by nannies


--FT


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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There's one already done in West Memphis, Ar, along I-55   Not as pretty 
as this'n



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 13, 2020 at 11:52 AM


Didn't you buy an SEC or two a while back?
126 or 140?
Drop it on top of a W163 frame and you'll have the lift automatically.

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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

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Actually that’s an interesting crackpot idea. The wheelbases Of the two 
chassises (126 coupé and 163) are within an inch and body widths and tracks are 
also very close so those aspects would be close fits. 

I wonder if the 560 engine would mate up to the AWD drive train or just leave 
the stock ML engine in it. I guess a newer engine like a 500 or 55 M113 would 
have moah powah than the older 560 M117 but it would be run by nannies

--FT
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> On Jan 13, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find me a 
>> wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC sitting 
>> around!
>> https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s
>>  
> 
> Didn't you buy an SEC or two a while back?
> 126 or 140?
> Drop it on top of a W163 frame and you'll have the lift automatically.
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

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Well, it has the "cold air intake" scoop on the hood, but they forgot the
hood stack for exhaust?

That is pretty neat.  Swap that special-build body onto a more modern
suspension set up, and it would be very entertaining.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find
> me a wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC
> sitting around!
>
>
> https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find 
me a wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC 
sitting around!


https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s 





Didn't you buy an SEC or two a while back?
126 or 140?
Drop it on top of a W163 frame and you'll have the lift automatically.

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[MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find 
me a wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC 
sitting around!


https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s

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