Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
Last tank of Costco gas was $2.67.gal for 92 octane. That was $0.20 more than 87 octane. Local gas stations are selling at $0.10 steps, unless they are close to the freeway, then it goes to $0.15 steps and about $0.90 or more per gallon than less desperation location options clay > On Jul 9, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >> On July 9, 2016 at 3:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel prices >> are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price of >> premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded. >> > > Ok, how much does everybody pay for premium? > > 10 years ago, every station around me charged 10 cents a grade, so 93 octane > cost 20 cents more than 87 octane. > > Then it was 15 cents, then 20 cents, and last year it went to 25 cents and > stayed there. > > So now, I can get a gallon of regular for 2.109, 89 or 90 octane for 2.359, > or 93 octane for 2.609, except the Shell station wants 2.139 for regular and > 2.7xx for premium. > > > > Does everybody have to pay 50 cents more than regular for premium? > > > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
Reminds me I need to fill the pickup. $2.14 I saw this morning... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:41 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: I paid $2.7x at Kum 'n Go last week, just before gas prices dropped 20c/gal locally (dammit). On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > On July 9, 2016 at 3:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel > prices are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price > of premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded. > > > Ok, how much does everybody pay for premium? > > 10 years ago, every station around me charged 10 cents a grade, so 93 > octane cost 20 cents more than 87 octane. > > Then it was 15 cents, then 20 cents, and last year it went to 25 cents and > stayed there. > > So now, I can get a gallon of regular for 2.109, 89 or 90 octane for > 2.359, or 93 octane for 2.609, except the Shell station wants 2.139 for > regular and 2.7xx for premium. > > > Does everybody have to pay 50 cents more than regular for premium? > > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
Mobil seems to be the worst around here with a $0.60 spread between regular and premium. They actually change it at times to as much as $0.90. I have no idea what the motivation or reason is behind the change. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On July 9, 2016 at 3:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel prices >> are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price of >> premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded. >> > > Ok, how much does everybody pay for premium? > > 10 years ago, every station around me charged 10 cents a grade, so 93 octane > cost 20 cents more than 87 octane. > > Then it was 15 cents, then 20 cents, and last year it went to 25 cents and > stayed there. > > So now, I can get a gallon of regular for 2.109, 89 or 90 octane for 2.359, > or 93 octane for 2.609, except the Shell station wants 2.139 for regular and > 2.7xx for premium. > > > > Does everybody have to pay 50 cents more than regular for premium? > > > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
I paid $2.7x at Kum 'n Go last week, just before gas prices dropped 20c/gal locally (dammit). On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > On July 9, 2016 at 3:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel > prices are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price > of premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded. > > > Ok, how much does everybody pay for premium? > > 10 years ago, every station around me charged 10 cents a grade, so 93 > octane cost 20 cents more than 87 octane. > > Then it was 15 cents, then 20 cents, and last year it went to 25 cents and > stayed there. > > So now, I can get a gallon of regular for 2.109, 89 or 90 octane for > 2.359, or 93 octane for 2.609, except the Shell station wants 2.139 for > regular and 2.7xx for premium. > > > Does everybody have to pay 50 cents more than regular for premium? > > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
On July 9, 2016 at 3:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel prices are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price of premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded.Ok, how much does everybody pay for premium?10 years ago, every station around me charged 10 cents a grade, so 93 octane cost 20 cents more than 87 octane. Then it was 15 cents, then 20 cents, and last year it went to 25 cents and stayed there. So now, I can get a gallon of regular for 2.109, 89 or 90 octane for 2.359, or 93 octane for 2.609, except the Shell station wants 2.139 for regular and 2.7xx for premium. Does everybody have to pay 50 cents more than regular for premium?Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
Mercedes and other major manufacturers recommend "Top Tier" fuels, which are marketed and sold by a number of fuel suppliers like Shell, BP and Costco. http://www.toptiergas.com >From what I can determine, the primary difference between "regular" fuels and >Top Tier fuels is the additive package. I know at our local fuel terminals, >pretty much all the fuels that come in are from the same supplier. You can see >the loaders putting additives in the tanker trucks at the terminals, so I have >to believe there is some credence to your article. I stick with Top Tier fuels in my cars, typically Costco. Their fuel prices are competitive, especially since a lot of stations jack the price of premium to stupid amounts over regular unleaded. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:25 PM, jerryh--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > In an article from the June, 2016 issue of "The Family Handyman", entitled > "10 Things You Should Know About Gasoline", author /"expert" Fred Walas, > fuels technology manager for Marathon Petroleum Company, a 34 year veteran in > the refinery business, whose current job includes work with the EPA, other > oil companies, and automobile manufacturers developing new fuel standards, > posits question number four:" Is a major-brand gas better then a lesser known > brand?" (I do believe that is the longest sentence I have ever typed). > > His answer is that 20 years ago, there was a difference between gas from the > majors and "cheap " gas from no-name stations. He claims that today the > biggest difference between gasoline brands is the type of fuel cleaning > additives used. He goes on to say that that the EPA mandates a minimal level > of fuel system cleaning additives and all gasoline sold in the U.S. must meet > those levels. > > Although he does not specifically answer the posited question, the > implication is that there is no substantial difference between the majors and > off brands. > > Now comes an article in "CNN Money" stating that AAA claims that "cheap > off-brand gasoline is bad for engines" > > http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/autos/aaa-cheap-gasoline/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_NewsAndBuzz_pool > > At the risk of starting a "gas war", I'd like to hear from our M-B > community. Looking forward to lots of comments. > > Jerry > > 1982 240D > > other gasoline powered cars > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
On July 9, 2016 at 2:43 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" wrote:Do "off brand" gas stations even exist anymore? In my neck of the woods,pretty much all stations around here are with one chain or another, whetherit be Shell, Valero, Conoco, Kum n Go, Casey's, Murphy's, Wal-Mart... Andgas delivery trucks might stop at a Valero, then go top off the Kum N Godown the street!The gas might be all the same, but the additives are different, dispensed by the truck as it delivers to the underground tank at the station. The Speedway station might get 100ppm of Marathon's detergent, and Marathon might get 200ppm, while the Shell station gets 150ppm of something entirely different. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
Do "off brand" gas stations even exist anymore? In my neck of the woods, pretty much all stations around here are with one chain or another, whether it be Shell, Valero, Conoco, Kum n Go, Casey's, Murphy's, Wal-Mart... And gas delivery trucks might stop at a Valero, then go top off the Kum N Go down the street! On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 1:25 PM, jerryh--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In an article from the June, 2016 issue of "The Family Handyman", > entitled "10 Things You Should Know About Gasoline", author /"expert" Fred > Walas, fuels technology manager for Marathon Petroleum Company, a 34 year > veteran in the refinery business, whose current job includes work with the > EPA, other oil companies, and automobile manufacturers developing new fuel > standards, posits question number four:" Is a major-brand gas better then a > lesser known brand?" (I do believe that is the longest sentence I have ever > typed). > > His answer is that 20 years ago, there was a difference between gas from > the majors and "cheap " gas from no-name stations. He claims that today the > biggest difference between gasoline brands is the type of fuel cleaning > additives used. He goes on to say that that the EPA mandates a minimal > level of fuel system cleaning additives and all gasoline sold in the U.S. > must meet those levels. > > Although he does not specifically answer the posited question, the > implication is that there is no substantial difference between the majors > and off brands. > > Now comes an article in "CNN Money" stating that AAA claims that "cheap > off-brand gasoline is bad for engines" > > > http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/autos/aaa-cheap-gasoline/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_NewsAndBuzz_pool > > At the risk of starting a "gas war", I'd like to hear from our M-B > community. Looking forward to lots of comments. > > Jerry > > 1982 240D > > other gasoline powered cars > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Is cheap, off-brand gas bad for engines?
In an article from the June, 2016 issue of "The Family Handyman", entitled "10 Things You Should Know About Gasoline", author /"expert" Fred Walas, fuels technology manager for Marathon Petroleum Company, a 34 year veteran in the refinery business, whose current job includes work with the EPA, other oil companies, and automobile manufacturers developing new fuel standards, posits question number four:" Is a major-brand gas better then a lesser known brand?" (I do believe that is the longest sentence I have ever typed). His answer is that 20 years ago, there was a difference between gas from the majors and "cheap " gas from no-name stations. He claims that today the biggest difference between gasoline brands is the type of fuel cleaning additives used. He goes on to say that that the EPA mandates a minimal level of fuel system cleaning additives and all gasoline sold in the U.S. must meet those levels. Although he does not specifically answer the posited question, the implication is that there is no substantial difference between the majors and off brands. Now comes an article in "CNN Money" stating that AAA claims that "cheap off-brand gasoline is bad for engines" http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/autos/aaa-cheap-gasoline/index.html?iid=ob_homepage_NewsAndBuzz_pool At the risk of starting a "gas war", I'd like to hear from our M-B community. Looking forward to lots of comments. Jerry 1982 240D other gasoline powered cars ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
