Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Once in a while Dan's least favorite big box hardware store, Menard's has a 
rebate sale on Quaker State synthetic for $1.99 a quart. I stock up then for 
the "other than Mercedes" vehicles.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I use NAPA synthetic in all my cars (except the OM617s which get Delo).

I watch for sales and stock up. It's private label Valvoline, from what
the local NAPA store manager tells me.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Wonder who the real maker is. Are you going to use that in an MB?
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Jan 16, 2020 4:40:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> :
>
>> Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
>> 
>> --Ft

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I just ordered 2 cases, 20qt for $54.48 delivered, don't have to fool 
with it at the store.  Not a bad deal, <$11/gal


--FT

On 1/17/20 12:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I should get that for my gassers.  Need to check which weights are
appropriate.  I think I use the 5w-30 in SWMBO's Infiniti.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The oil page

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
says


   Applications

For use in gasoline, flex-fuel or gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles
requiring SAE 5W-30 API SN PLUS, SN, SL and ILSAC GF-5, GF-4 or previous
standards. Approved for use in all GM gasoline engines requiring
dexos1^™ Gen 2 5W-30.

From

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-general-discussion/4350817-kirkland-oil-2.html

"Warren dist in Omaha Nebraska fills most oil brands. They even make the
containers oil goes in and will provide you any info you need about a
certain brand of oil and I think they make most brands. They are kinda
quiet about making Mobile one but thats going to take more research.
Best deal right now is kirkland costco at 2.50 a quart in ten quart box.
I use the walmart brand in my winter beater car and its full synthetic
for around 2,99 a quart. Warren builds brands that you see every day and
did not know they did all the blending.. The C6 still gets mobile one
and a champion labs filter (different thread). I may re think that down
the road when I run out of rebate mobile one."

The Jagyoowah guys have mixed opinions in an "oil thread"


https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/heck-ya-another-oil-thread-would-you-use-kirkland-oil-costco-226603/page2/


Krikland 5W30 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-sign...100527865.html
<
https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
Kirkland 5W20 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:

https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518854.html
<
https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-5W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518854.html
and 0W20 here:

https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518855.html
<
https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-0W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518855.html

I guess of these 5W30 would be a reasonable choice weight for my E320
(although I just changed the oil in it using M1 last Sunday), and would
be fine in my trucks

--FT


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Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.

--Ft
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I should get that for my gassers.  Need to check which weights are
appropriate.  I think I use the 5w-30 in SWMBO's Infiniti.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The oil page
>
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
> says
>
>
>   Applications
>
> For use in gasoline, flex-fuel or gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles
> requiring SAE 5W-30 API SN PLUS, SN, SL and ILSAC GF-5, GF-4 or previous
> standards. Approved for use in all GM gasoline engines requiring
> dexos1^™ Gen 2 5W-30.
>
> From
>
> https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-general-discussion/4350817-kirkland-oil-2.html
>
> "Warren dist in Omaha Nebraska fills most oil brands. They even make the
> containers oil goes in and will provide you any info you need about a
> certain brand of oil and I think they make most brands. They are kinda
> quiet about making Mobile one but thats going to take more research.
> Best deal right now is kirkland costco at 2.50 a quart in ten quart box.
> I use the walmart brand in my winter beater car and its full synthetic
> for around 2,99 a quart. Warren builds brands that you see every day and
> did not know they did all the blending.. The C6 still gets mobile one
> and a champion labs filter (different thread). I may re think that down
> the road when I run out of rebate mobile one."
>
> The Jagyoowah guys have mixed opinions in an "oil thread"
>
>
> https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/heck-ya-another-oil-thread-would-you-use-kirkland-oil-costco-226603/page2/
>
>
> Krikland 5W30 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-sign...100527865.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
> >
>
> Kirkland 5W20 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518854.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-5W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518854.html
> >
>
> and 0W20 here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518855.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-0W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518855.html
> >
>
>
> I guess of these 5W30 would be a reasonable choice weight for my E320
> (although I just changed the oil in it using M1 last Sunday), and would
> be fine in my trucks
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 1/16/20 4:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> > Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
> >
> > --Ft
> > Sent from iPhone
> > .
> >
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The oil page 
https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html 
says



 Applications

For use in gasoline, flex-fuel or gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles 
requiring SAE 5W-30 API SN PLUS, SN, SL and ILSAC GF-5, GF-4 or previous 
standards. Approved for use in all GM gasoline engines requiring 
dexos1^™ Gen 2 5W-30.


From 
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-general-discussion/4350817-kirkland-oil-2.html


"Warren dist in Omaha Nebraska fills most oil brands. They even make the 
containers oil goes in and will provide you any info you need about a 
certain brand of oil and I think they make most brands. They are kinda 
quiet about making Mobile one but thats going to take more research. 
Best deal right now is kirkland costco at 2.50 a quart in ten quart box. 
I use the walmart brand in my winter beater car and its full synthetic 
for around 2,99 a quart. Warren builds brands that you see every day and 
did not know they did all the blending.. The C6 still gets mobile one 
and a champion labs filter (different thread). I may re think that down 
the road when I run out of rebate mobile one."


The Jagyoowah guys have mixed opinions in an "oil thread"

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/heck-ya-another-oil-thread-would-you-use-kirkland-oil-costco-226603/page2/


Krikland 5W30 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-sign...100527865.html 



Kirkland 5W20 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:

https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518854.html 



and 0W20 here:

https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518855.html 




I guess of these 5W30 would be a reasonable choice weight for my E320 
(although I just changed the oil in it using M1 last Sunday), and would 
be fine in my trucks


--FT


On 1/16/20 4:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.

--Ft
Sent from iPhone
.


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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

+1  same experience in different cars.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 16, 2020 at 8:30 PM
One thing I always liked about M1 that seems to still hold true is its 
volatility, or lack thereof.


In 1989, I bought a new Plymouth Horizon, and mostly ran 5W30 M1 in it 
every 7500 miles. Around 1993-94, Castrol ran a rebate on their 
Syntec  (5W40 or 5W50, I can't remember which) and I tried it. They 
only had one viscosity grade, presented it as one size fits all but it 
was too thick to run in the Horizon, I just didn't know better back 
then. Within 5000 miles the oil level had dropped quite a bit. I never 
added oil in 7500 miles with M1. My 1977 Saab was even better, I'd 
drive it 7000 miles on M1 and the dipstick would still read at the 
full line, and the oil would be fairly clear. In the late 1990s, 
Meijer started selling store brand 'full synthetic'. I put it in the 
Horizon, and was a qt low at 3000 miles.


More recently, the 220kmi Saturn goes 11,400 on the oil life monitor 
without a lot of oil consumption, been running 5W30 M1 in that since 
186k, and I believe the PO used it most of the time too.


While I realize there isn't much relationship between lubrication 
quality and lubricant evaporation, it seriously annoys me to have oil 
just up and disappear under conditions that M1 stays in the sump.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

An oil thread Woo Hoo!!

Bob R

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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 7:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> The subject of various brands of synthetic oil isn't simple:
> 
> "Some "synthetic" oil is made from Group III base stock, some from Group IV. 
> Some from a blend of the two. Mobil sued Castrol and Castrol prevailed in 
> showing that their Group III base stock oil was changed enough that it 
> qualified as full synthetic. Since then API has removed all references to 
> Synthetic in their documentation regarding standards. "Full synthetic" is a 
> marketing term and is not a measurable quality"
> 
> The following link shows more complexity and describes other oils considered 
> synthetic or semi-synthetic.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil   
>  
> ..
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 21:42:36 + (UTC)
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Wonder who the real maker is. Are you going to use that in an MB?
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jan 16, 2020 4:40:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> :
>> 
>>> Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
>>> 
>>> --Ft
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

The subject of various brands of synthetic oil isn't simple:

"Some "synthetic" oil is made from Group III base stock, some from Group IV. 
Some from a blend of the two. Mobil sued Castrol and Castrol prevailed in 
showing that their Group III base stock oil was changed enough that it 
qualified as full synthetic. Since then API has removed all references to 
Synthetic in their documentation regarding standards. "Full synthetic" is a 
marketing term and is not a measurable quality"

The following link shows more complexity and describes other oils considered 
synthetic or semi-synthetic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil 
   
..
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 21:42:36 + (UTC)
Max Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:

> 
> Wonder who the real maker is. Are you going to use that in an MB?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jan 16, 2020 4:40:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> :
> 
> > Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
> > 
> > --Ft
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

One thing I always liked about M1 that seems to still hold true is its 
volatility, or lack thereof.


In 1989, I bought a new Plymouth Horizon, and mostly ran 5W30 M1 in it every 
7500 miles. Around 1993-94, Castrol ran a rebate on their Syntec  (5W40 or 5W50, 
I can't remember which) and I tried it. They only had one viscosity grade, 
presented it as one size fits all but it was too thick to run in the Horizon, I 
just didn't know better back then. Within 5000 miles the oil level had dropped 
quite a bit. I never added oil in 7500 miles with M1. My 1977 Saab was even 
better, I'd drive it 7000 miles on M1 and the dipstick would still read at the 
full line, and the oil would be fairly clear. In the late 1990s, Meijer started 
selling store brand 'full synthetic'. I put it in the Horizon, and was a qt low 
at 3000 miles.


More recently, the 220kmi Saturn goes 11,400 on the oil life monitor without a 
lot of oil consumption, been running 5W30 M1 in that since 186k, and I believe 
the PO used it most of the time too.


While I realize there isn't much relationship between lubrication quality and 
lubricant evaporation, it seriously annoys me to have oil just up and disappear 
under conditions that M1 stays in the sump.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Well i am a hard core believer in MI after 18 years of using it in OM 616,
617, 602 &  m272 engines. In the  days when Larry was doing oil testing the
results were amazing- even  @ 12k miles. Also how clean the engine was when
we did a head gasket job on tje  infamous new england 79 240D. My dad used
to say that good oil was cheap insurance so no other brand for me. YMMV


But you can't buy that stuff any more.

When I was reading all the M1 MSDS a year ago, pretty much the only stuff with 
more than 20% Group IV base stock was Extended Performance and Annual Protection 
in 0W20 grade. I ran it the EP 5000 miles in the turbo Cruze and it held up 
well, but the iron level was a bit high, possibly because the oil was marginal 
on HTHS viscosity.


So now I'm trying to decide whether to run 5W30 of something cheap like M1 or 
Kendall GT-1 and change it often, or pay 3x as much for Redline or Amsoil and 
run it for 10-15kmi. I've seen analysis of 5W30 M1 after 7500mi in a Cruze and 
it's pretty much used up. Makes me wonder how long the current formula 5W40 
holds up in a turbo diesel.


My gasser Benz are easy, just run M1 Euro 0W40 in everything now. I've never 
analyzed it, but I'm sure it's good for 10kmi in a M112. But I'd be wary of 
running over 5000 miles in a turbo engine, especially over 100hp/liter.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well i am a hard core believer in MI after 18 years of using it in OM 616,
617, 602 &  m272 engines. In the  days when Larry was doing oil testing the
results were amazing- even  @ 12k miles. Also how clean the engine was when
we did a head gasket job on tje  infamous new england 79 240D. My dad used
to say that good oil was cheap insurance so no other brand for me. YMMV

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 5:34 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I wonder how the Kirkland stuff would do in my Dodge RAM.It ticked at
> startup after about 5,000 miles on Valvoline synthetic. With Mobil 1 (this
> is all 5w20) it doesn't tick even at the 9,000 miles its on for its last
> change...
> I know many folks poo poo M1 but this experience tells me something is
> better about it, at least vs Valvoline.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 4:57:24 PM EST, Mitch Haley via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
>
> The ARFCOM oil guy (one of the owners of Lyden Oil) says it's typical
> 'full
> synthetic' (comparable to Mobil One et al). He'll sell me Kendall GT-1 MAX
> for
> $35/12 qt case, which is 10% over distributor cost.
> Which makes Costco pricing pretty much wholesale for DEXOS 1 certified oil.
>
>
> https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Paging-foxtrot08-Kirkland-brand-synthetic-oil/5-2283869/
>
> Group III (and especially Group III+) is getting pretty good, at least for
> short
> term (under 10kmi) use, and  you can get it for under $10 a gallon in
> tanker
> quantities.
>
> Group IV is more durable but expensive. My friend pricing at Lyden is
> $101/12qt
> case of Redline, my preferred customer pricing at Amsoil is $112 with free
> shipping for Signature Series 5W30. Considering the fact that Amsoil has
> to UPS
> it to me, I figure those prices are equivalent.
> If anybody wants Amsoil before my membership expires at month end, let me
> know
> and I'll see if it can be shipped to you at my membership price.
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I wonder how the Kirkland stuff would do in my Dodge RAM.It ticked at startup 
after about 5,000 miles on Valvoline synthetic. With Mobil 1 (this is all 5w20) 
it doesn't tick even at the 9,000 miles its on for its last change...
I know many folks poo poo M1 but this experience tells me something is better 
about it, at least vs Valvoline.

-Curt

On Thursday, January 16, 2020, 4:57:24 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff. 

The ARFCOM oil guy (one of the owners of Lyden Oil) says it's typical 'full 
synthetic' (comparable to Mobil One et al). He'll sell me Kendall GT-1 MAX for 
$35/12 qt case, which is 10% over distributor cost.
Which makes Costco pricing pretty much wholesale for DEXOS 1 certified oil.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Paging-foxtrot08-Kirkland-brand-synthetic-oil/5-2283869/

Group III (and especially Group III+) is getting pretty good, at least for 
short 
term (under 10kmi) use, and  you can get it for under $10 a gallon in tanker 
quantities.

Group IV is more durable but expensive. My friend pricing at Lyden is $101/12qt 
case of Redline, my preferred customer pricing at Amsoil is $112 with free 
shipping for Signature Series 5W30. Considering the fact that Amsoil has to UPS 
it to me, I figure those prices are equivalent.
If anybody wants Amsoil before my membership expires at month end, let me know 
and I'll see if it can be shipped to you at my membership price.

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

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Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Wonder who the real maker is. 


Said to be Warren.

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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

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Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff. 


The ARFCOM oil guy (one of the owners of Lyden Oil) says it's typical 'full 
synthetic' (comparable to Mobil One et al). He'll sell me Kendall GT-1 MAX for 
$35/12 qt case, which is 10% over distributor cost.

Which makes Costco pricing pretty much wholesale for DEXOS 1 certified oil.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Paging-foxtrot08-Kirkland-brand-synthetic-oil/5-2283869/

Group III (and especially Group III+) is getting pretty good, at least for short 
term (under 10kmi) use, and  you can get it for under $10 a gallon in tanker 
quantities.


Group IV is more durable but expensive. My friend pricing at Lyden is $101/12qt 
case of Redline, my preferred customer pricing at Amsoil is $112 with free 
shipping for Signature Series 5W30. Considering the fact that Amsoil has to UPS 
it to me, I figure those prices are equivalent.
If anybody wants Amsoil before my membership expires at month end, let me know 
and I'll see if it can be shipped to you at my membership price.


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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I forget who makes it now, but I saw somewhere who it was with an 
indication that it is a base for other synthetics.


Maybe the googs can say

--FT

On 1/16/20 4:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Wonder who the real maker is. Are you going to use that in an MB?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 16, 2020 4:40:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :


Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.

--Ft
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wonder who the real maker is. Are you going to use that in an MB?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 16, 2020 4:40:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
> 
> --Ft
> Sent from iPhone
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[MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff. 

--Ft
Sent from iPhone

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