Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My '98 Jetta was notorious for that. The wheel centers were tight on the rims 
and wouldn't seat good. Get 10-15 miles down the road and the wheels would get 
all loose. I eventually carried the torque wrench with me for the first couple 
days after having a wheel off.
Curt

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  On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:49 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   One thing I will add, when you have a 
wheel off, always go for a short test drive, do a few hard swerves left and 
right, and then re-check the torque on the wheel lug nuts/bolts. I have more 
than once had a wheel torqued up to spec only to find it loose a day or two 
later after some driving.


On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, at 13:32, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> strong work
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/17/22 12:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it comes 
>> to repairs.
>>
>> A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the back of 
>> the hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the new one in. I 
>> used a small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull it in, then a new 
>> lug nut to remount the wheel.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, at 13:44, Jim Cathey wrote:
 Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled 
 in by just tightening the nut?
>>> I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs
>>> scrapping if that's your alternative.
>>>
>>> My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the
>>> rear brakes
>>> on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the
>>> brickyard Monday.  I
>>> expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
One thing I will add, when you have a wheel off, always go for a short test 
drive, do a few hard swerves left and right, and then re-check the torque on 
the wheel lug nuts/bolts. I have more than once had a wheel torqued up to spec 
only to find it loose a day or two later after some driving.


On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, at 13:32, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> strong work
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/17/22 12:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it comes 
>> to repairs.
>>
>> A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the back of 
>> the hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the new one in. I 
>> used a small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull it in, then a new 
>> lug nut to remount the wheel.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, at 13:44, Jim Cathey wrote:
 Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled 
 in by just tightening the nut?
>>> I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs
>>> scrapping if that's your alternative.
>>>
>>> My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the
>>> rear brakes
>>> on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the
>>> brickyard Monday.  I
>>> expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

strong work

--FT

On 8/17/22 12:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it comes to 
repairs.

A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the back of the 
hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the new one in. I used a 
small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull it in, then a new lug nut to 
remount the wheel.


On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, at 13:44, Jim Cathey wrote:

Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in by 
just tightening the nut?

I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs
scrapping if that's your alternative.

My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the
rear brakes
on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the
brickyard Monday.  I
expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-17 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Always nice when things work out that way.

-D

> On Aug 17, 2022, at 12:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it comes 
> to repairs.
> 
> A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the back of 
> the hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the new one in. I 
> used a small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull it in, then a new lug 
> nut to remount the wheel.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, at 13:44, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in 
>>> by just tightening the nut?
>> 
>> I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs 
>> scrapping if that's your alternative.
>> 
>> My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the 
>> rear brakes
>> on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the 
>> brickyard Monday.  I
>> expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 11:09:21 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it
> comes to repairs.
> 
> A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the
> back of the hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the
> new one in. I used a small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull
> it in, then a new lug nut to remount the wheel.

Congratulations!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Turned out to me much easier than hoped. A rare outcome for me when it comes to 
repairs.

A few hammer taps knocked the remains of the broken stud out of the back of the 
hub. There was enough clearance to get it out, and get the new one in. I used a 
small stack of greased washers and a nut to pull it in, then a new lug nut to 
remount the wheel.


On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, at 13:44, Jim Cathey wrote:
>> Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in 
>> by just tightening the nut?
>
> I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs 
> scrapping if that's your alternative.
>
> My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the 
> rear brakes
> on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the 
> brickyard Monday.  I
> expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

You should be able to bang the broken chunk out with a hammer and punch.
You can likely get the new one in without taking the whole thing apart. 
You may have to turn the hub to a point where you can get access to the 
hole for the stud from the back.
You should be able to crank it in using a lug nut. Depending on the 
length of the thread on the new stud, you may need spacers - washers 
maybe - in order to pull it all of the way in.
Put the nut on backward so that you are pressing with the flat side of 
the nut.
There is a simple "tool" intended for the purpose but it is just a sort 
of bushing (essentially a really thick washer).


Randy

On 05/08/2022 1:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Helping son with a flat on the '03 Focus. One of the studs twisted off as I was 
trying to remove the nut. Who knew that my 56 year old arms were strong enough 
to tear steel. Gives me great confidence in the materials used by Ford. 
Actually as much as the rest of the car is rusting, I guess I'm not surprised.

I bought a new stud and nut at NAPA. Looks like it is sort of a press fit with 
a knurled section to hold it in the hub.

I am hoping to do this without removing the hub. Can these typically be knocked 
out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in by just tightening the nut?

If I have to remove the hub and buy a press I may just junk the car, it is really worth 
that little to me (though having a press is on my "someday" list for the home 
workshop).

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Can these typically be knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in 
> by just tightening the nut?

I do not know, but I really don't think so.  Worth a try, though, vs scrapping 
if that's your alternative.

My 20yo son couldn't get all the wheel nuts off when we were doing the rear 
brakes
on the E320.  I, at 62, could.  However, he starts work at the brickyard 
Monday.  I
expect that situation to change, rather fast.  If he lasts.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 05 Aug 2022 13:16:11 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am hoping to do this without removing the hub. Can these typically be
> knocked out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in by just tightening
> the nut?

IIRC, that's the way a repair shop fixed the studs on a car I had in
Austin, Texas, in the late '90s after some monkey at Sam's Club used an
impact wrench set on ultra-high to put the wheels back on after
installing new tires.

Just be aware of the possibility of impact Brinelling of the bearings.

They may have used a pneumatic hammer to get the old studs out. I don't
recall seeing how the fellow inserted the studs, but threading on


> If I have to remove the hub and buy a press I may just junk the car, it
> is really worth that little to me (though having a press is on my
> "someday" list for the home workshop).

You could also take the hub and stud to a shop which has a press.


Craig

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[MBZ] Maybe OT: wheel lug stud replacement

2022-08-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Helping son with a flat on the '03 Focus. One of the studs twisted off as I was 
trying to remove the nut. Who knew that my 56 year old arms were strong enough 
to tear steel. Gives me great confidence in the materials used by Ford. 
Actually as much as the rest of the car is rusting, I guess I'm not surprised.

I bought a new stud and nut at NAPA. Looks like it is sort of a press fit with 
a knurled section to hold it in the hub.

I am hoping to do this without removing the hub. Can these typically be knocked 
out with a hammer? And the new one pulled in by just tightening the nut?

If I have to remove the hub and buy a press I may just junk the car, it is 
really worth that little to me (though having a press is on my "someday" list 
for the home workshop).

Allan
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