Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
Basically how I change power steering fluid. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 10:40 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > > > I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. > > Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily > replaceable filter). > > Fill or slightly overfill. > > Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. > > Start and idle the car. > > When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more > in. > > When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust > fluid level as required. > > Was going to suggest similar. Depending on the car you might need to > shift through R-N-D when idling to get the fluid circulating. > > When I changed fluid in my Volvo this spring, I did the drain/fill x 3 > method, driving a bit between drains to fully circulate the fluid. That > took a while, but by the third draining the fluid was substantially > cleaner. > > Honda recommends the repeated drain/fill approach also. > > You don't want to use "cheap" fluid for any of the fills in that method, > since some portion of it will remain. Use the manufacturer recommended > fluid. It seems somewhat wasteful but has the advantage of not messing > with cooler lines, where there always the chance of causing damage, or > introducing dirt into the system. That said, I will probably try it next > time since it should use a lot less fluid and save some time. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
I was thinking to pull the pan and put in a drain plug to make it easier the next time(s). I did that some years ago on my 87 Blazer, made draining the fluid a breeze, no tranny fluid bath when dropping the pan. Yes I would def use the recommended fluid, just thinking that buying some bulk stuff might be a bit cheaper, though good fluid is cheaper than a transmission fosho. --FT On 7/30/19 10:57 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: I’ve heard/seen this approach and it makes sense. However, you would need to be sure to have the correct line disconnected and have a helper to start/stop the engine, asa LOT fluid moves through those lines. The drain/fill approach works as well, although it’s a bit more time and labor intensive. By the time you’ve done it three times, the volume of old fluid is so low to be insignificant. -D On Jul 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily replaceable filter). Fill or slightly overfill. Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. Start and idle the car. When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more in. When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust fluid level as required. Was going to suggest similar. Depending on the car you might need to shift through R-N-D when idling to get the fluid circulating. When I changed fluid in my Volvo this spring, I did the drain/fill x 3 method, driving a bit between drains to fully circulate the fluid. That took a while, but by the third draining the fluid was substantially cleaner. Honda recommends the repeated drain/fill approach also. You don't want to use "cheap" fluid for any of the fills in that method, since some portion of it will remain. Use the manufacturer recommended fluid. It seems somewhat wasteful but has the advantage of not messing with cooler lines, where there always the chance of causing damage, or introducing dirt into the system. That said, I will probably try it next time since it should use a lot less fluid and save some time. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
OK Don via Mercedes writes: > I'm guessing here, but if you disconnect a line, fluid will either > come out of it, or the fitting you removed it from - just be prepared > to collect the old fluid at both places, and it should work out fine > ??? I'd say you want to disconnect the return line from the cooler, so the fluid in the cooler is flushed as well. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
I'm guessing here, but if you disconnect a line, fluid will either come out of it, or the fitting you removed it from - just be prepared to collect the old fluid at both places, and it should work out fine ??? On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:58 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I’ve heard/seen this approach and it makes sense. However, you would need > to be sure to have the correct line disconnected and have a helper to > start/stop the engine, asa LOT fluid moves through those lines. > > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
I’ve heard/seen this approach and it makes sense. However, you would need to be sure to have the correct line disconnected and have a helper to start/stop the engine, asa LOT fluid moves through those lines. The drain/fill approach works as well, although it’s a bit more time and labor intensive. By the time you’ve done it three times, the volume of old fluid is so low to be insignificant. -D > On Jul 30, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > >> I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. >> Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily >> replaceable filter). >> Fill or slightly overfill. >> Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. >> Start and idle the car. >> When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more in. >> When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust >> fluid level as required. > > Was going to suggest similar. Depending on the car you might need to > shift through R-N-D when idling to get the fluid circulating. > > When I changed fluid in my Volvo this spring, I did the drain/fill x 3 > method, driving a bit between drains to fully circulate the fluid. That > took a while, but by the third draining the fluid was substantially > cleaner. > > Honda recommends the repeated drain/fill approach also. > > You don't want to use "cheap" fluid for any of the fills in that method, > since some portion of it will remain. Use the manufacturer recommended > fluid. It seems somewhat wasteful but has the advantage of not messing > with cooler lines, where there always the chance of causing damage, or > introducing dirt into the system. That said, I will probably try it next > time since it should use a lot less fluid and save some time. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. > Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily > replaceable filter). > Fill or slightly overfill. > Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. > Start and idle the car. > When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more in. > When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust fluid > level as required. Was going to suggest similar. Depending on the car you might need to shift through R-N-D when idling to get the fluid circulating. When I changed fluid in my Volvo this spring, I did the drain/fill x 3 method, driving a bit between drains to fully circulate the fluid. That took a while, but by the third draining the fluid was substantially cleaner. Honda recommends the repeated drain/fill approach also. You don't want to use "cheap" fluid for any of the fills in that method, since some portion of it will remain. Use the manufacturer recommended fluid. It seems somewhat wasteful but has the advantage of not messing with cooler lines, where there always the chance of causing damage, or introducing dirt into the system. That said, I will probably try it next time since it should use a lot less fluid and save some time. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
FT here's an article on Wallet Flushes, Ooops I meant transmission flushes. http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238 Russ W On 7/29/2019 12:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I need to change the trans fluid in my truck. Has about 120kmi so quite overdue. I don’t recall changing it but I might have at some point. I see it takes 5qt for a filter change but 11qt if the TC is drained. Of course there is no direct way to drain the TC. So I’m wondering if the best way to clean it out is to buy some cheap bulk fluid, dexron or whatever, then run a coupla drains and refills through before I put in the new filter then another dose of clean fluid. That would dilute the old stuff pretty well but unless I used “better” fluid to do the process it would get diluted quite a bit on just the last fill. What do shops do when they flush and refill? Some kind of machine that somehow can flush out the TC? How does that work? Are there some kind of fittings? --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
Thanks. Sounds good. I should do that. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. > Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily > replaceable filter). > Fill or slightly overfill. > Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. > Start and idle the car. > When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more in. > When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust fluid > level as required. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
I got this method from a Ford factory manual in the 1990s. Drain and change filter, if applicable (my Cruze doesn't have a readily replaceable filter). Fill or slightly overfill. Unhook cooler line and connect to a clear vinyl hose. Start and idle the car. When you've pumped out almost as much as you put in, stop and put more in. When the fluid in the clear hose gets suddenly cleaner, stop and adjust fluid level as required. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
Last time I had quickie lube change the trans-fluid in the Dakota was quite awhile ago but they used a thing that attached to the cooler lines. Start the truck and it (the transmission in the truck I mean) pumped new fluid in and old fluid out. Seemed like a legit way to do things if you knew which connector was which at the cooler. They didn't do the filter at the time which I realized later was a bad idea. These days I've got a guy who does it. He saves the old fluid for me which gets a second life in the grooming machines... -Curt On Monday, July 29, 2019, 1:31:28 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The shop transmission flush machines I have seen connect into the transmission cooler lines and suck the fluid out while pumping clean fluid in, to somehow magically swap out the old tired fluid for fresh new fluid... somewhere in the mix, a new trans filter is installed and pan gasket, etc... These machines are pretty expensive, even used, so the shop charge for this level of service is pretty spendy, from what I've seen. Might be cheaper to just do a pan drop and drain, new filter, fresh fluid then do another repeat in 5,000 miles.. until the trans fluid shows "fresh" On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:14 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need to change the trans fluid in my truck. Has about 120kmi so quite > overdue. I don’t recall changing it but I might have at some point. > > I see it takes 5qt for a filter change but 11qt if the TC is drained. Of > course there is no direct way to drain the TC. So I’m wondering if the best > way to clean it out is to buy some cheap bulk fluid, dexron or whatever, > then run a coupla drains and refills through before I put in the new filter > then another dose of clean fluid. That would dilute the old stuff pretty > well but unless I used “better” fluid to do the process it would get > diluted quite a bit on just the last fill. > > What do shops do when they flush and refill? Some kind of machine that > somehow can flush out the TC? How does that work? Are there some kind of > fittings? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
The shop transmission flush machines I have seen connect into the transmission cooler lines and suck the fluid out while pumping clean fluid in, to somehow magically swap out the old tired fluid for fresh new fluid... somewhere in the mix, a new trans filter is installed and pan gasket, etc... These machines are pretty expensive, even used, so the shop charge for this level of service is pretty spendy, from what I've seen. Might be cheaper to just do a pan drop and drain, new filter, fresh fluid then do another repeat in 5,000 miles.. until the trans fluid shows "fresh" On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:14 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I need to change the trans fluid in my truck. Has about 120kmi so quite > overdue. I don’t recall changing it but I might have at some point. > > I see it takes 5qt for a filter change but 11qt if the TC is drained. Of > course there is no direct way to drain the TC. So I’m wondering if the best > way to clean it out is to buy some cheap bulk fluid, dexron or whatever, > then run a coupla drains and refills through before I put in the new filter > then another dose of clean fluid. That would dilute the old stuff pretty > well but unless I used “better” fluid to do the process it would get > diluted quite a bit on just the last fill. > > What do shops do when they flush and refill? Some kind of machine that > somehow can flush out the TC? How does that work? Are there some kind of > fittings? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT truck trans fluid
I need to change the trans fluid in my truck. Has about 120kmi so quite overdue. I don’t recall changing it but I might have at some point. I see it takes 5qt for a filter change but 11qt if the TC is drained. Of course there is no direct way to drain the TC. So I’m wondering if the best way to clean it out is to buy some cheap bulk fluid, dexron or whatever, then run a coupla drains and refills through before I put in the new filter then another dose of clean fluid. That would dilute the old stuff pretty well but unless I used “better” fluid to do the process it would get diluted quite a bit on just the last fill. What do shops do when they flush and refill? Some kind of machine that somehow can flush out the TC? How does that work? Are there some kind of fittings? --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
