Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-30 Thread Marshall Booth

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thought that keeps coming to my mind is he says the meter pegs. Has 
anyone thought that maybe the wire is grounded? What does the guage do 
when the key is on and the engine is off? Does it still show 3+ bar? If 
so that means there's a problem.


All 123s (and some early 201s) including an '84 300TD, used direct 
reading oil pressure gauges. NO electrics involved. Just a tube 
containing oil under operating pressure going to the Bourdon (bent tube) 
type dash gauge.


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-30 Thread redghost
Gump pegs.  Finally got enough M1 run through her to where she does not 
stay pegged at warm idle.  I just thought that 3 bar was normal no 
matter how fast or slow the engine turns


On Monday, August 29, 2005, at 05:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The thought that keeps coming to my mind is he says the meter pegs. 
Has anyone thought that maybe the wire is grounded? What does the 
guage do when the key is on and the engine is off? Does it still show 
3+ bar? If so that means there's a problem.

 
KEn
 
 
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Sounds like its running normal to me.

hue wong wrote:

> I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> missed it and can't find it in the archives...
>
>
> So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
> at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
> doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
> motor idle
>
> I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
> warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
> But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
> and it could cause damage!
>
> Any thoughts?  Clogged line somewhere?
>


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-30 Thread Bucks2
The thought that keeps coming to my mind is he says the meter pegs. Has 
anyone thought that maybe the wire is grounded? What does the guage do when the 
key 
is on and the engine is off? Does it still show 3+ bar? If so that means 
there's a problem. 

KEn


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Sounds like its running normal to me.

hue wong wrote:

> I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> missed it and can't find it in the archives...
> 
> 
> So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
> at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
> doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
> motor idle
> 
> I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
> warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
> But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
> and it could cause damage!
> 
> Any thoughts?  Clogged line somewhere?
> 


Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Sounds like its running normal to me.

hue wong wrote:


I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
missed it and can't find it in the archives...


So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
motor idle

I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
and it could cause damage!

Any thoughts?  Clogged line somewhere?


Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
shocks...

Anyway, Thanks in advance.





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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Marshall Booth wrote:
> Do you own a 123 of later car with an OM61x or OM60x engine? Did you 
> replace the "O" rings on the oil filter cap stem??

Yes, and no.  That may be the issue.  Hadn't thought about it because
the oil pressure *is* acceptable -- always at least 1.3 bar.  But they
probably do need replacing.

David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

David Brodbeck wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:

There is really NO 10W-30 oil that I believe to be appropriate for a 
Mercedes diesel except maybe in sub zero (F) weather!


USE a 15W-40 if you are using a conventional oil.



Incidentally, when I switched my car from the 10W30 the PO had put in to
15W40, I expected to see an increase in hot oil pressure at idle.  Nope;
even with the thicker oil, the hot oil pressure is exactly where it was
before.  I'm kind of curious why that would be.  Is 15W40 just not that
much thicker?


According to API, the viscosity of 30 weight oil at 100 deg. C. must 
fall within the range of 9.3 to 12.5 cSt. 40 weight oil must fall 
between 12.5 and 16.3 cSt. so a sample of 30 weight and another of 40 
weight oil COULD measure identically at 12.5 cSt and still meet their 
respective API specifications!


Do you own a 123 of later car with an OM61x or OM60x engine? Did you 
replace the "O" rings on the oil filter cap stem?? The pair of "O" rings 
on the filter stem become petrified after about 20-25kmi and if not 
replaced, warm idle oil pressure will drop (often a little, occasionally 
a lot) and on cars with hydraulic lifters, lifter noise at idle WILL 
increase.


The part number of these "O" rings is 015-997-94-48.  It's 10mm OD X 6mm 
ID X 2mm.


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

JabbaHursty wrote:

what does this have to do with guns?


Thank God for Hursty - always keeping us on track!

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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it "wasn't something"  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little "quirks" yet...)


If you needed to know that the pressure was 6, Mercedes could have given 
you a gauge that read 6! They give you a gauge that carefully reads 
where oil pressure is critical - between 0 and 3. You NEED to know that 
the pressure is at least 3 when the rpm is 2500-3000 rpm or higher and 
is always above 0.5 at idle. That's the critical range.


You SHOULD be sure that the oil is suitable for a diesel. I recommend a 
CF or better rating and an xW-40 or xW-50 rating (CH-4 thru CI-4 rated 
oils are probably a bit more desirable, but that's hardly critical). The 
"x" should be some number between 0 and 15 (I don't know of a diesel 
rated 20X-xx oil but there MIGHT be one there somewhere). Most 
conventional diesel rated oils are 15W-40. In MY OPINION the best of 
these diesel 15W-40 oils are Chevron Delo 400 and Mobil Delvac 1300. The 
others commonly available in the US (Rotella, Exxon, Castrol, etc.) are 
inferior, rather ordinary, but can certainly provide suitable lubrication.


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Marshall Booth wrote:
> There is really NO 10W-30 oil that I believe to be appropriate for a 
> Mercedes diesel except maybe in sub zero (F) weather!
> 
> USE a 15W-40 if you are using a conventional oil.

Incidentally, when I switched my car from the 10W30 the PO had put in to
15W40, I expected to see an increase in hot oil pressure at idle.  Nope;
even with the thicker oil, the hot oil pressure is exactly where it was
before.  I'm kind of curious why that would be.  Is 15W40 just not that
much thicker?



Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty

what does this have to do with guns?


At 10:47 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote:

hue wong wrote:
> I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> missed it and can't find it in the archives...
>
>
> So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
> at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
> doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
> motor idle
>
> I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
> warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
> But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
> and it could cause damage!
>
> Any thoughts?

THAT'S exactly what it should do.

>
>
> Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
> suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
> Chilton's manual.  I thought they ran straight
> shocks...

ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling suspension.

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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it "wasn't something"  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little "quirks" yet...)

Thanks!






--- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hue wong wrote:
> > So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right
> > 
> > 
> > When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after
> about
> > 50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
> > drop down after that  
> > 
> > I seem to remember that the gauge would start
> > bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
> > first got the car, then right before I put it in
> to
> > storage about six months ago, it started going all
> the
> > way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
> > down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take
> the
> > load of the engine...
> 
> Precisely what year and model car are you talking
> about?? You seem to 
> have omitted that!
> 
> If it's a 123 my answers stand as the direct reading
> Bourdon gauges 
> seldom if ever incorrectly read high. There is NO
> problem. If it's a 124 
> or 201 series car manufactured after 1984 with an
> electric gauge, the 
> gauge CAN incorrectly read high - may even read 3+
> bar when the ignition 
> key is on (but the engine is not running).
> 
> ANY oil pressure between 3 and about 6 bar when
> driving is FINE. When 
> hot, idle pressure MUST remain above 0.5 bar (and
> 1-2 bar is usual).
> 
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td

Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so  (

it's not running low, that is for sure...  Jumps right
up there and never comes down...)
I just wanted to make sure it "wasn't something"  I've
run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not
to sure of thier little "quirks" yet...)

Thanks!






--- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hue wong wrote:
> > So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right
> > 
> > 
> > When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after
> about
> > 50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
> > drop down after that  
> > 
> > I seem to remember that the gauge would start
> > bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
> > first got the car, then right before I put it in
> to
> > storage about six months ago, it started going all
> the
> > way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
> > down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take
> the
> > load of the engine...
> 
> Precisely what year and model car are you talking
> about?? You seem to 
> have omitted that!
> 
> If it's a 123 my answers stand as the direct reading
> Bourdon gauges 
> seldom if ever incorrectly read high. There is NO
> problem. If it's a 124 
> or 201 series car manufactured after 1984 with an
> electric gauge, the 
> gauge CAN incorrectly read high - may even read 3+
> bar when the ignition 
> key is on (but the engine is not running).
> 
> ANY oil pressure between 3 and about 6 bar when
> driving is FINE. When 
> hot, idle pressure MUST remain above 0.5 bar (and
> 1-2 bar is usual).
> 
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:


Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil

I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off
the bottom of the air intake...  It leaked oil like a
feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. 
Different makes of oil, and I always try and run

10-30, but am sure I mixed viscosity at some point...

I'm going to flush all the oil out tomorrow and change
the filters and see if that fixes the problem!

There is really NO 10W-30 oil that I believe to be appropriate for a 
Mercedes diesel except maybe in sub zero (F) weather!


USE a 15W-40 if you are using a conventional oil.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right


When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after about
50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
drop down after that  


I seem to remember that the gauge would start
bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
first got the car, then right before I put it in to
storage about six months ago, it started going all the
way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take the
load of the engine...


Precisely what year and model car are you talking about?? You seem to 
have omitted that!


If it's a 123 my answers stand as the direct reading Bourdon gauges 
seldom if ever incorrectly read high. There is NO problem. If it's a 124 
or 201 series car manufactured after 1984 with an electric gauge, the 
gauge CAN incorrectly read high - may even read 3+ bar when the ignition 
key is on (but the engine is not running).


ANY oil pressure between 3 and about 6 bar when driving is FINE. When 
hot, idle pressure MUST remain above 0.5 bar (and 1-2 bar is usual).


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong


Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil

I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off
the bottom of the air intake...  It leaked oil like a
feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. 
Different makes of oil, and I always try and run
10-30, but am sure I mixed viscosity at some point...

I'm going to flush all the oil out tomorrow and change
the filters and see if that fixes the problem!

Thanks for the help!





--- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hue wong wrote:
> > Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
> > before I put the car in storage  Now it just
> kinda
> > sticks up there at 3.
> > 
> > Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran
> non-desiel
> > rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
> > gumming it up?
> 
> Approved oil of the proper viscosity should cause
> the needle to peg when 
> the engine is started cold - and may remain pegged
> until the engine has 
> run for 5-15 minutes. Then the needle usually will
> drop to between 1 and 
> 2 bar at hot warm idle. If oil viscosity becomes too
> high (because you 
> are using an unsuitable oil, oil additive or the oil
> is contaminated in 
> some way), the needle may read high. Simply change
> to an approved oil 
> type and viscosity. If oil pressure get too high
> (above about 6 bar) 
> there are relief valves in the filter housing and
> the pump housing that 
> will open and prevent any problem.
> 
> Only problem with running a non-diesel rated oil
> (now that fuel sulfur 
> has been reduced to less than 0.05%)) is that it
> will not handle soot as 
> well and will require changing somewhat sooner.
> Changed at 500-1000 
> miles, NO problem (if the viscosity rating was
> appropriate).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
before I put the car in storage  Now it just kinda
sticks up there at 3.

Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel
rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
gumming it up?


Approved oil of the proper viscosity should cause the needle to peg when 
the engine is started cold - and may remain pegged until the engine has 
run for 5-15 minutes. Then the needle usually will drop to between 1 and 
2 bar at hot warm idle. If oil viscosity becomes too high (because you 
are using an unsuitable oil, oil additive or the oil is contaminated in 
some way), the needle may read high. Simply change to an approved oil 
type and viscosity. If oil pressure get too high (above about 6 bar) 
there are relief valves in the filter housing and the pump housing that 
will open and prevent any problem.


Only problem with running a non-diesel rated oil (now that fuel sulfur 
has been reduced to less than 0.05%)) is that it will not handle soot as 
well and will require changing somewhat sooner. Changed at 500-1000 
miles, NO problem (if the viscosity rating was appropriate).


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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right


When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after about
50-60 miles. and even then it would not always
drop down after that  

I seem to remember that the gauge would start
bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I
first got the car, then right before I put it in to
storage about six months ago, it started going all the
way to the 3 on the gauge(Full) and never backing
down, even when I pull up to stop signs and take the
load of the engine...





--- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hue wong wrote:
> > I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> > missed it and can't find it in the archives...
> > 
> > 
> > So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge
> pegs
> > at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then
> it
> > doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let
> the
> > motor idle
> > 
> > I seem to think that it starts moving about after
> it
> > warms up...( the car has sat for the last few
> months)
> > But I want to make sure I'm not running it this
> way
> > and it could cause damage!
> > 
> > Any thoughts? 
> 
> THAT'S exactly what it should do.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the
> self-leveling
> > suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
> > Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
> > shocks...
> 
> ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling
> suspension.
> 
> Marshall
> -- 
> Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned
> questions)
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> '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth

hue wong wrote:

I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
missed it and can't find it in the archives...


So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
motor idle

I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
and it could cause damage!

Any thoughts? 


THAT'S exactly what it should do.




Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
shocks...


ALL the 123 and 124 wagons have self leveling suspension.

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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
Normal?  really?  It usta bounce around right nice
before I put the car in storage  Now it just kinda
sticks up there at 3.

Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel
rate oil for about 500-600 miles.  Could that be
gumming it up?



--- LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think the technical term for this is NORMAL. 
> 
> On 8/27/05, hue wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> > missed it and can't find it in the archives...
> > 
> > 
> > So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge
> pegs
> > at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it
> > doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let
> the
> > motor idle
> > 
> > I seem to think that it starts moving about after
> it
> > warms up...( the car has sat for the last few
> months)
> > But I want to make sure I'm not running it this
> way
> > and it could cause damage!
> > 
> > Any thoughts? Clogged line somewhere?
> > 
> > 
> > Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the
> self-leveling
> > suspensions? I just read a reference to it in the
> > Chilton's manual. I thought they ran straight
> > shocks...
> > 
> > Anyway, Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread LT Don
I think the technical term for this is NORMAL. 

On 8/27/05, hue wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
> missed it and can't find it in the archives...
> 
> 
> So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
> at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it
> doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
> motor idle
> 
> I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
> warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
> But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
> and it could cause damage!
> 
> Any thoughts? Clogged line somewhere?
> 
> 
> Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
> suspensions? I just read a reference to it in the
> Chilton's manual. I thought they ran straight
> shocks...
> 
> Anyway, Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I
missed it and can't find it in the archives...


So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs
at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)   Then it
doesn't go down when I let off the "gas" and let the
motor idle

I seem to think that it starts moving about after it
warms up...( the car has sat for the last few months)
But I want to make sure I'm not running it this way
and it could cause damage!

Any thoughts?  Clogged line somewhere?


Also, do these 2300td's (84) have the self-leveling
suspensions?  I just read a reference to it in the
Chilton’s manual.  I thought they ran straight
shocks...

Anyway, Thanks in advance.





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