Re: [MBZ] Retirement biz for AZ Bob

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You wouldn't DO it, you'd tell the employees what to do.


Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
November 22, 2021 at 9:41 PM
The only trucking I ever did was driving semi grain trucks in North 
Dakota for a summer in the mid 70s.


AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Retirement biz for AZ Bob

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The only trucking I ever did was driving semi grain trucks in North Dakota for 
a summer in the mid 70s.

AZBob

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> On Nov 22, 2021, at 8:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For sale: Trucking & Logistics Companylocated in Arizona. Below are some 
> business highlights:
> 
> * $1.2 million in revenue with $450K in normalized cash flow.
> 
> 
> * Specializes in flatbed hauling.
> 
> 
> * Transports mostly steel coiled rebar, plastic pipe and building
>   material.
> 
> 
> * Largest flatbed trucking company in its operating area.
> 
> No Affiliation Etc.  Must not be a lot of flatbed biz in its "operating 
> territory" if the gross is only 1.2
> 
> 
> I'm used to much bigger companies running flats, like Decker and TMZ hauling 
> lots of John Deere green and drywall, etc.
> 
> Most of the Biz fer sale I see are in Jaime's country.   People trying 
> desperately to sell out and get out.
> 
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[MBZ] Retirement biz for AZ Bob

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

For sale: Trucking & Logistics Companylocated in Arizona. Below are some 
business highlights:


 * $1.2 million in revenue with $450K in normalized cash flow.


 * Specializes in flatbed hauling.


 * Transports mostly steel coiled rebar, plastic pipe and building
   material.


 * Largest flatbed trucking company in its operating area.

No Affiliation Etc.  Must not be a lot of flatbed biz in its "operating 
territory" if the gross is only 1.2



I'm used to much bigger companies running flats, like Decker and TMZ 
hauling lots of John Deere green and drywall, etc.


Most of the Biz fer sale I see are in Jaime's country.   People trying 
desperately to sell out and get out.



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Re: [MBZ] Retirement special

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

With savings in motel bookings that will pay for itself in mere decades.

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[MBZ] Retirement special

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/college-grove-thor-siesta/7408923721.html
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Good for the long hauls with the head. I suppose you could fold those seats 
down to sleep too. Add a little fridge and a microwave and it could be a 
minimal RV

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> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here ya go
> 
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2015-mercedes-sprinter-3500/7406614275.html
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> too boring. Take a GL or an ML.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or
>>> equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit
>>> mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including
>>> Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>>  On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that
>>> you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
>>> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
>>> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
>>> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
>>> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
>>> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
>>> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
>>> was buying long term reliability.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
>>> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
>>> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
 She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
>>> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
 If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
>>> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
 The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
>>> in something like that would get tiresome.
 What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
 
 AZBob
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

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$200k new? Really??

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> Here ya go
>
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2015-mercedes-sprinter-3500/7406614275.html
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > too boring. Take a GL or an ML.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe
> or
> > > equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any
> halfwit
> > > mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe
> including
> > > Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
> > >
> > > Curt
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
> > >   On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest
> that
> > > you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
> > > rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
> > > tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same
> level
> > > of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
> > > fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a
> lot
> > > of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
> > > available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
> > > was buying long term reliability.
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> > > On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> > > had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard
> time
> > > convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> > > > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB
> or
> > > hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> > > > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be
> that
> > > vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> > > > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand
> miles
> > > in something like that would get tiresome.
> > > > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> > > >
> > > > AZBob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

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Here ya go

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2015-mercedes-sprinter-3500/7406614275.html

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> too boring. Take a GL or an ML.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or
> > equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit
> > mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including
> > Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
> >
> > Curt
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that
> > you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
> > rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
> > tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
> > of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
> > fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
> > of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
> > available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
> > was buying long term reliability.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> > had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
> > convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> > > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
> > hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> > > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
> > vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> > > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
> > in something like that would get tiresome.
> > > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> > >
> > > AZBob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Clay via Mercedes]

Not sure about mobile coverage.  It had been being promoted for usage by 
geologist for use out in the field back in 2019 at the mining conference that 
year.  May have been spin, as there was yet to be coverage at the time.

clay 

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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 6:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is StarLink usable by travelers now? Last I heard it was still for fixed 
> addresses and would refuse to connect if you were too far from the registered 
> home base.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride - GLK250 problems

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What a nightmare. My local dealership has been decent about attending to
basically the same issues. The worst thing that ever happened to me was a
check engine light and decreased fuel economy when two air charge hoses had
cracked. That cost about $900 to repair. The emissions-related recalls and
the replacement of the def blue heater element we're both handled under
warranty from Mercedes of North America.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 10:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The fellow I referred to has a 2014 GLK250 that is causing him grief. He
> bought it new and it has only 120K Kilometers on it so around 75K miles.
>
> He has had 2 NOX sensors and the DEF pump and heater replaced. The
> dealer says it needs a DPF but none are available.
>
> The DPF will be under warranty but apparently the NOX sensors and DEF
> pump and heater are not and they are expensive.
>
> There is also an issue with the SCR (catalytic converter).
>
> It apparently sprays too much DEF under acceleration and the stuff
> puddles in the SCR. It ultimately burns off and mucks up the NOX
> sensors. It blows white smoke out the back when it burns off the DEF.
>
> They have looked inside the SCR and say it is falling apart internally
> and some of the material from it is coating the NOX sensors.
>
> They did a DPF regeneration and a week later there is a code saying it
> is almost plugged again.
>
> He is not a happy camper. The dealer has not been able to resolve the
> issues so far.
>
> Randy
>
> On 11/9/2021 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > What model/year diesel does your friend drive, Randy?  I've had no such
> > problems with my 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec SUV.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
> >> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
> >> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
> >> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
> >> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
> >> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
> >> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
> >> was buying long term reliability.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is StarLink usable by travelers now? Last I heard it was still for fixed 
addresses and would refuse to connect if you were too far from the registered 
home base.

Allan

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 10:41 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Get a StarLink account (Elon’s sat. network) that covers the far north.  
> Should have it well built out in a year or two.  Subscription is supposed to 
> be around $99/mo for something a tad bit quicker than DSL.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
> > On Nov 9, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Now that would be interesting.  Of course I work remote so theoretically as 
> > long as I have phone and internet access I could be working from anywhere, 
> > even on the road.
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Clay via Mercedes]

Get a StarLink account (Elon’s sat. network) that covers the far north.  Should 
have it well built out in a year or two.  Subscription is supposed to be around 
$99/mo for something a tad bit quicker than DSL.

Clay


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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 6:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Now that would be interesting.  Of course I work remote so theoretically as 
> long as I have phone and internet access I could be working from anywhere, 
> even on the road.

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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Now that would be interesting.  Of course I work remote so theoretically 
as long as I have phone and internet access I could be working from 
anywhere, even on the road.


On 11/9/2021 9:29 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:

Another option for getting up to AK is to sign up to drive a brand new RV up 
from the factory.  You do pay for the pleasure of having virgin Class C or A 
accommodations, as well as normal fuel cost.   Prior to Couf there were massive 
fleets of these making the voyage every May to resupply the rentals that got 
worn out.  Cruise America rate is around $100 day.  Horizon Transport pays you 
$0.99/mile.  Some even offer the option to tow a wee car behind, so you have 
other means of getting around once you drop off.


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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride - GLK250 problems

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The fellow I referred to has a 2014 GLK250 that is causing him grief. He 
bought it new and it has only 120K Kilometers on it so around 75K miles.


He has had 2 NOX sensors and the DEF pump and heater replaced. The 
dealer says it needs a DPF but none are available.


The DPF will be under warranty but apparently the NOX sensors and DEF 
pump and heater are not and they are expensive.


There is also an issue with the SCR (catalytic converter).

It apparently sprays too much DEF under acceleration and the stuff 
puddles in the SCR. It ultimately burns off and mucks up the NOX 
sensors. It blows white smoke out the back when it burns off the DEF.


They have looked inside the SCR and say it is falling apart internally 
and some of the material from it is coating the NOX sensors.


They did a DPF regeneration and a week later there is a code saying it 
is almost plugged again.


He is not a happy camper. The dealer has not been able to resolve the 
issues so far.


Randy

On 11/9/2021 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What model/year diesel does your friend drive, Randy?  I've had no such
problems with my 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec SUV.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
was buying long term reliability.

Randy





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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

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Another option for getting up to AK is to sign up to drive a brand new RV up 
from the factory.  You do pay for the pleasure of having virgin Class C or A 
accommodations, as well as normal fuel cost.   Prior to Couf there were massive 
fleets of these making the voyage every May to resupply the rentals that got 
worn out.  Cruise America rate is around $100 day.  Horizon Transport pays you 
$0.99/mile.  Some even offer the option to tow a wee car behind, so you have 
other means of getting around once you drop off.


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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The 'living room' aspect of the truck camper is its weakest point.
That, and the climbing up into it, and up into the bed.  But if you're
still somewhat agile...  

We use ours as a mobile bedroom.  With kitchen, dining, and
bathroom facilities as necessary.  Our time 'elsewhere' is spent
mostly not in the camper, except when sleeping.

Though truck campers are a tiny fraction of the RV market, there's
still a lot of choices in layouts, sizes, features, etc.  They, like everything
else, have gotten kind of expensive lately.  We paid $5k for our used Lance.
It goes on the truck I already had.  Hard to beat that for RV-ing value.
My truck had the camper package, which is basically some overload leaf
springs and a heavy rear sway bar.  Makes quite a difference in how it
handles that top-heavy load!  Do NOT skimp on tires.  Load range E or
better.  I run 80psi on the rears.

Campers with slide-outs tend to be particularly vertical, so beware of that.
The floor of our Lance is basically the truck bed, so it's only three steps
up and in.  I've seen many with more like a six-step staircase to get in.  
Scary.
There are models with side entries, basically the staircase is inside rather
than outside.  But for every such 'plus', there are minuses.  Do your homework!

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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I call dibs on the Cummins 

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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 8:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I certainly have the truck for it, Curt…my ‘05 Dodge  2500 5.9 
> Cummins.  Wifey was marveling at them the other day what with the new ones 
> and their fancy slide outs. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
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> 
>> On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> too boring. Take a GL or an ML.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or
>>> equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit
>>> mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including
>>> Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that
>>> you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
>>> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
>>> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
>>> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
>>> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
>>> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
>>> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
>>> was buying long term reliability.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
> On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
>>> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
>>> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
 She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
>>> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
 If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
>>> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
 The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
>>> in something like that would get tiresome.
 What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
 
 AZBob
 
 
 
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[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Well, I certainly have the truck for it, Curt…my ‘05 Dodge  2500 5.9 Cummins.  
Wifey was marveling at them the other day what with the new ones and their 
fancy slide outs. 

AZBob

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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> too boring. Take a GL or an ML.
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or
>> equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit
>> mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including
>> Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that
>> you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
>> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
>> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
>> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
>> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
>> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
>> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
>> was buying long term reliability.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
>> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
>> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
>>> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
>> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
>>> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
>> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
>>> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
>> in something like that would get tiresome.
>>> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

too boring. Take a GL or an ML.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 6:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or
> equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit
> mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including
> Jeep) for best availability of parts and repair.
>
> Curt
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that
> you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
> was buying long term reliability.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
> in something like that would get tiresome.
> > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Just to be a contrarian: bedbugs.  Apparently they're making a comeback.
Also, you have to consider the resale value in the RV calculus.

For us, though perhaps less roomy, the best on-the-road living value is
via a truck camper.  Full queen-sized bed.  Truck can go just about anywhere.
If truck kacks, you can replace it, and you don't have to pay the 'RV penalty'
when getting serviced.

Take along a toad.  Something like a nice little SLK?

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm with you. For touring I would suggest something like a Chevy Tahoe or 
equivalent. Big and comfortable, parts available everywhere, any halfwit 
mechanic will be able to work on it.Stick with the big 3 (maybe including Jeep) 
for best availability of parts and repair.

Curt


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  On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest 
that you enjoy old Mercedes as fun 
rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your 
tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level 
of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a 
fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot 
of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are 
available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he 
was buying long term reliability.

Randy


On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
> considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
> room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
> something like that would get tiresome.
> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
>
> AZBob
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What model/year diesel does your friend drive, Randy?  I've had no such
problems with my 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec SUV.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that you enjoy old Mercedes as fun
> rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your
> tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level
> of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a
> fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot
> of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are
> available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he
> was buying long term reliability.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
> in something like that would get tiresome.
> > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> >
> >
>
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Blasphemy maybe, but I would suggest that you enjoy old Mercedes as fun 
rides and acquire something else that is new or relatively new for your 
tour of the country. The new Mercedes do not seem to have the same level 
of quality as they once did. A fellow on another list that I read has a 
fairly late model Mercedes SUV with the diesel and is experiencing a lot 
of problems. The dealer is unable to repair it because no parts are 
available. He is rather depressed by the whole issue as he thought he 
was buying long term reliability.


Randy


On 09/11/2021 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
vehicle (boy child totaled it).
The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
something like that would get tiresome.
What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?

AZBob






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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Agree, unless you're really wanting the whole camping experience (which can be 
fun), hotels are far more comfortable and less expensive.

Allan

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> After taking the cross country trip from Oregon to North Carolina, I now 
> understand why many RVers choose to stay in hotels on the road. It’s not 
> worth the time to set up every night just to tear down the next morning. With 
> three people and four Doodles, the RV was the best way to travel, but it was 
> way easier to just park the RV, drag suitcases into the hotel, get a good 
> night’s sleep and continue the journey the next morning. The motorhome worked 
> well for our one month stay at the campground before moving into our new 
> house. The dogs didn’t enjoy being cooped up without a place to run, but now, 
> they have a large yard. Once the permanent back yard fence is installed, they 
> will have a WHOLE LOT more room to run.
> I hope you find the perfect traveling ride.
> Kevin in Lexington, NC
> 
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> 
> > On Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
> > considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
> > convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost. 
> > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or 
> > hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”). 
> > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
> > vehicle (boy child totaled it). 
> > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
> > something like that would get tiresome. 
> > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> > 
> > AZBob
> > 
> > 
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[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

After taking the cross country trip from Oregon to North Carolina, I now 
understand why many RVers choose to stay in hotels on the road. It’s not worth 
the time to set up every night just to tear down the next morning. With three 
people and four Doodles, the RV was the best way to travel, but it was way 
easier to just park the RV, drag suitcases into the hotel, get a good night’s 
sleep and continue the journey the next morning. The motorhome worked well for 
our one month stay at the campground before moving into our new house. The dogs 
didn’t enjoy being cooped up without a place to run, but now, they have a large 
yard. Once the permanent back yard fence is installed, they will have a WHOLE 
LOT more room to run.
I hope you find the perfect traveling ride.
Kevin in Lexington, NC

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> On Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
> considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost. 
> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
> room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”). 
> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
> vehicle (boy child totaled it). 
> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
> something like that would get tiresome. 
> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> 
> AZBob
> 
> 
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I no I can get one.


On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Does it have a clear tittle?
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 9, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The answer should be obvious.
> >
> > W123 turbodiesel station wagon with *at least* 380,000 miles so you know
> > that the car has been broken in properly.  Preferably a former daily
> > driver, white exterior with a blue leather interior, third row seating,
> > roof cross bars, and rebuilt Becker AM/FM cassette with bluetooth
> > capability.
> >
> > I have a lead on a vehicle that completely matches this description if
> you
> > are seriously interested.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A W126.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> >> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard
> time
> >> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> >>> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
> >> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> >>> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be
> that
> >> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> >>> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
> >> in something like that would get tiresome.
> >>> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
> >>>
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Does it have a clear tittle?

-D

> On Nov 9, 2021, at 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The answer should be obvious.
> 
> W123 turbodiesel station wagon with *at least* 380,000 miles so you know
> that the car has been broken in properly.  Preferably a former daily
> driver, white exterior with a blue leather interior, third row seating,
> roof cross bars, and rebuilt Becker AM/FM cassette with bluetooth
> capability.
> 
> I have a lead on a vehicle that completely matches this description if you
> are seriously interested.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> A W126.
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
>> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
>> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
>>> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
>> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
>>> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
>> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
>>> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
>> in something like that would get tiresome.
>>> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The answer should be obvious.

W123 turbodiesel station wagon with *at least* 380,000 miles so you know
that the car has been broken in properly.  Preferably a former daily
driver, white exterior with a blue leather interior, third row seating,
roof cross bars, and rebuilt Becker AM/FM cassette with bluetooth
capability.

I have a lead on a vehicle that completely matches this description if you
are seriously interested.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A W126.
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We
> had considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
> > She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or
> hotel room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
> > If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that
> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
> > The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles
> in something like that would get tiresome.
> > What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I agree with Floyd. An ML or GL would be perfect for such types of travel, and 
modern enough to be easily serviced just about anywhere.

While a W126 that’s well sorted and in good shape would be nice, if something 
happens to it and you’re in bumf*ck wherever, getting it serviced will be a 
challenge.

-D

> On Nov 9, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A GL or ML or a wagon, you can get all your impedimenta in any of them 
> without struggling, and tow something if you want on the SUVs, and take a nap 
> if you want (or if no AirBnBs about you can sleep in it).  The bigger the 
> better for highway miles and room to stretch your legs around while driving.  
> Even the 211 wagon falls a bit short in the last measure but the 163 ML is 
> great in that regard, although noisier and harsher ride.  The newer SUVs are 
> much better in that regard though.  An AWD SUV will get you in the back 
> country if you want to explore off the beaten track, or deal with snow and 
> such if you are out in that, even rain too.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/9/21 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
>> considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
>> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
>> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
>> room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
>> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
>> vehicle (boy child totaled it).
>> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
>> something like that would get tiresome.
>> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

A W126.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
> considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
> convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost. 
> She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
> room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”). 
> If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
> vehicle (boy child totaled it). 
> The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
> something like that would get tiresome. 
> What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A GL or ML or a wagon, you can get all your impedimenta in any of them 
without struggling, and tow something if you want on the SUVs, and take 
a nap if you want (or if no AirBnBs about you can sleep in it).  The 
bigger the better for highway miles and room to stretch your legs around 
while driving.  Even the 211 wagon falls a bit short in the last measure 
but the 163 ML is great in that regard, although noisier and harsher 
ride.  The newer SUVs are much better in that regard though.  An AWD SUV 
will get you in the back country if you want to explore off the beaten 
track, or deal with snow and such if you are out in that, even rain too.


--FT

On 11/9/21 1:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost.
She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”).
If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
vehicle (boy child totaled it).
The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
something like that would get tiresome.
What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?

AZBob


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[MBZ] Retirement Ride

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

After 38 years of moving neutrons, I’m calling it quits in March.  We had 
considered traveling alles uber our Country but I am having a hard time 
convincing Mrs.Bob we should buy Chip’s Prevost. 
She is leaning more towards getting a new to us vehicle and Air BnB or hotel 
room it (“you can pay for a lot of hotel rooms for $135K”). 
If you recall, I bought the 2008 CLK350 thinking it was going to be that 
vehicle (boy child totaled it). 
The drop top was kind of fun, but I think doing several thousand miles in 
something like that would get tiresome. 
What are y’all’s suggestions on what would be a good choice for that?

AZBob


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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I guess for some their only social interactions occur at work, so when they
retire this key support for emotional health goes away...

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:13 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have no shortage of projects to do.  Then there are places to go.  And
> there are always things to do.
>
> Under the things to do category: Went yesterday with SWMBO and had Irsh
> coffee and Fish and chips.  It was excellent and took over 2 hours.  And I
> am not old enough to drink coffee!
>
> Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>> January 20, 2018 at 9:45 PM
>> My grandfather, born 1900, was retired from the Kent Constabulary in
>> 1965,and, after 6 months at home, my grandmother brought him his hat and
>> coat saying "Don't come back until you have a job."
>>
>> He took a Custodian of Quarters position for the Met. and worked for
>> another 23 years, outliving my grandmother.
>>
>> Retirement is not for the faint hearted.
>>
>> My only real gripe is that everybody in my family thinks that I'm doing
>> nothing, so feel free to steal my time for their projects! (And resent
>> being told no. or hell no!)
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have no shortage of projects to do.  Then there are places to go.  And 
there are always things to do.


Under the things to do category: Went yesterday with SWMBO and had Irsh 
coffee and Fish and chips.  It was excellent and took over 2 hours.  And 
I am not old enough to drink coffee!



Fred Moir via Mercedes 
January 20, 2018 at 9:45 PM
My grandfather, born 1900, was retired from the Kent Constabulary in 
1965,and, after 6 months at home, my grandmother brought him his hat 
and coat saying "Don't come back until you have a job."


He took a Custodian of Quarters position for the Met. and worked for 
another 23 years, outliving my grandmother.


Retirement is not for the faint hearted.

My only real gripe is that everybody in my family thinks that I'm 
doing nothing, so feel free to steal my time for their projects! (And 
resent being told no. or hell no!)



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.


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[MBZ] Retirement

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

My grandfather, born 1900, was retired from the Kent Constabulary in 1965,and, 
after 6 months at home, my grandmother brought him his hat and coat saying 
"Don't come back until you have a job."

He took a Custodian of Quarters position for the Met. and worked for another 23 
years, outliving my grandmother.

Retirement is not for the faint hearted.

My only real gripe is that everybody in my family thinks that I'm doing 
nothing, so feel free to steal my time for their projects! (And resent being 
told no. or hell no!)


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Bill R]

Good luck on the whole retirement thing.  I've been retired for 5 years and
think it is great, but I do miss the friends and travel of my previous job
[went Key West to Tampa working with community groups].  I suspect you will
find enough to do, but do make sure you get involved in some good
organizations and stay useful and keep your head working. I just wrote a
course and hope to teach at a community college next year.  I may not be
able to help anyone else wit it, but after a few years of hanging around it
helped me a lot to write it.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of ANGELO GIAIMO
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:31 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Retirement

Everyone,

As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service and
will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over the
years.

Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
schedule, or you just want to chat).

Sincerely,

Angelo Giaimo

NEW EMAIL
michaelangel...@gmail.com

HOME ADDRESS:
63 Hamlet Court
Wappinger Falls, NY 12590

PHONE:
845-298-9335 (H)
845-729-0607 (C)

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[LarryT]

Hey Bill -
   Good to hear you're enjoying your retirement - ditto on staying active - 
it's too easy to settle into a routine that doesn't include enough mental 
stimulation.   I'm not really retired - am on full medical disability -  my 
problem is not having enough time to do all the things I used to do while 
working full time.  Now I'm home and can never get all the work done. 
Strange... of course the pain and disability do interfer ...


   Like you, I miss the people and places I used to be involved with and 
all the different things I was exposed to.


   But there's things that make up for it.  My wife  I have always enjoyed 
each others company and now we can be together as much as we want.   Except 
she works full time now ;-(  can't have it all -


LarryT

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From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement


Good luck on the whole retirement thing.  I've been retired for 5 years 
and

think it is great, but I do miss the friends and travel of my previous job
[went Key West to Tampa working with community groups].  I suspect you 
will

find enough to do, but do make sure you get involved in some good
organizations and stay useful and keep your head working. I just wrote a
course and hope to teach at a community college next year.  I may not be
able to help anyone else wit it, but after a few years of hanging around 
it

helped me a lot to write it.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of ANGELO GIAIMO
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:31 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Retirement

Everyone,

As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service 
and

will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over 
the

years.

Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
schedule, or you just want to chat).

Sincerely,

Angelo Giaimo

NEW EMAIL
michaelangel...@gmail.com

HOME ADDRESS:
63 Hamlet Court
Wappinger Falls, NY 12590

PHONE:
845-298-9335 (H)
845-729-0607 (C)

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Curt Raymond]

Layoffs are what you make of them. I've been through 2 and in both cases came 
out the other side better off than if I'd stayed.

My father in-law is due to be laidoff in October, he was notified last October. 
If he stays until his last day he gets something like 56 weeks of severance, if 
he doesn't he gets something like 36 weeks... In either case he gets 1 YEAR of 
support through a job bank, resume classes, something like 20 credit hours at a 
local community college and some other things I forget.
He's so upset about the whole thing he keeps saying he's gonna quit and they 
can keep the severance. I've taken to replying with Yeah well, you could do 
that but it'd be retarded. I'm sick to death of his poor me attitude about 
the whole thing, the company is bending over backward for him and he's decided 
they don't care about me merely because he's not needed. He's also trying to 
say he'll retire and get social security but he's only 55 so he's not gonna 
get squat.

This is the same guy who brags about how he's gotten 3% in his 401K for the 
last 15 years because its in a bond fund. I love pointing out he's gotten 0% in 
his 401K for the last 15 years (compared to inflation) because he's in a bond 
fund where I've made more money in the last 5 years than he's got in his whole 
401K because I took the time to go to college (which he was pushed to do by his 
employer(who would have paid) but refused (!) and by using an aggressive growth 
fund. 
My 401K earnings look lousy right now but they'll come back before too long, in 
fact I haven't checked but I bet they're on the rebound already...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:39:18 -0500
From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 047901c9c7b2$e93831d0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=windows-1250

Corporate America left me a little over 8 years ago. Now I'm a consultant
and I own an on-line kegging supply business.

Oh, and one of my clients is the very same company that canned me 8 years
ago. I work there 3 days / week for 30% more pay per (40 hour) week than I
made as an Employee. They are begging for a 4th day and I remind them that I
originally signed up for only 2 days / week.

Sometimes it sucks being laid off, or so some people tell me..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Rich Thomas]

Hope he didn't have Govt Motors bonds, he's screwed today.

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

Layoffs are what you make of them. I've been through 2 and in both cases came 
out the other side better off than if I'd stayed.

My father in-law is due to be laidoff in October, he was notified last October. 
If he stays until his last day he gets something like 56 weeks of severance, if 
he doesn't he gets something like 36 weeks... In either case he gets 1 YEAR of 
support through a job bank, resume classes, something like 20 credit hours at a 
local community college and some other things I forget.
He's so upset about the whole thing he keeps saying he's gonna quit and they can keep the severance. I've taken to 
replying with Yeah well, you could do that but it'd be retarded. I'm sick to death of his poor 
me attitude about the whole thing, the company is bending over backward for him and he's decided they don't 
care about me merely because he's not needed. He's also trying to say he'll retire and get social 
security but he's only 55 so he's not gonna get squat.

This is the same guy who brags about how he's gotten 3% in his 401K for the last 15 years because its in a bond fund. I love pointing out he's gotten 0% in his 401K for the last 15 years (compared to inflation) because he's in a bond fund where I've made more money in the last 5 years than he's got in his whole 401K because I took the time to go to college (which he was pushed to do by his employer(who would have paid) but refused (!) and by using an aggressive growth fund. 
My 401K earnings look lousy right now but they'll come back before too long, in fact I haven't checked but I bet they're on the rebound already...


-Curt

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:39:18 -0500
From: Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 047901c9c7b2$e93831d0$3400a...@tomrmkj2yanjy9
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250

Corporate America left me a little over 8 years ago. Now I'm a consultant
and I own an on-line kegging supply business.

Oh, and one of my clients is the very same company that canned me 8 years
ago. I work there 3 days / week for 30% more pay per (40 hour) week than I
made as an Employee. They are begging for a 4th day and I remind them that I
originally signed up for only 2 days / week.

Sometimes it sucks being laid off, or so some people tell me..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:

Hope he didn't have Govt Motors bonds, he's screwed today.


If he was in a 'bond fund', he probably had some, unless it was restricted to 
gov't bonds.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Rich Thomas]

Same thing today!

--R (not really, but you get the point)

Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

Hope he didn't have Govt Motors bonds, he's screwed today.


If he was in a 'bond fund', he probably had some, unless it was 
restricted to gov't bonds.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Retirement

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

Everyone,

As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service and
will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over the
years.

Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
schedule, or you just want to chat).

Sincerely,

Angelo Giaimo

NEW EMAIL
michaelangel...@gmail.com

HOME ADDRESS:
63 Hamlet Court
Wappinger Falls, NY 12590

PHONE:
845-298-9335 (H)
845-729-0607 (C)

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Bob Rentfro]

Good for you.
Everyone I work with, who is nearing retirement, seems to have their date
moving out a little further due to the wretched economy.

Bob R

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:31 PM, ANGELO GIAIMO gia...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Everyone,

 As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service and
 will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
 importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over the
 years.

 Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
 schedule, or you just want to chat).

 Sincerely,

 Angelo Giaimo

 NEW EMAIL
 michaelangel...@gmail.com

 HOME ADDRESS:
 63 Hamlet Court
 Wappinger Falls, NY 12590

 PHONE:
 845-298-9335 (H)
 845-729-0607 (C)

 Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
 Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
 (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Wonko the Sane]

I retired in 1995. I still work 40+ hours a week. (In the interest of full
disclosure, I retired at age 42, way too young to not start a second
career.)

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good for you.
 Everyone I work with, who is nearing retirement, seems to have their date
 moving out a little further due to the wretched economy.

 Bob R




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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Angelo Giaimo]

 Rob,

They let me go in January with 90 days to find another position. If not I
got a GENEROUS separation package, retraining $$$, etc, etc, that I'd be
stupid not to take.  Very fortunate I got my full retirement and medical.
Had not planned to retire yet (due to the economy and job market) , but oh
well, crap happens.  We'll deal with it.  Wife is still working, and that
helps allot.  Golf starts 5/1, and the honey-do list is growing vbg

Obligatory MBZ content: I'll have more time to fix all my oil leaks on my
350SDL rodbender (274K miles...and still ticking)

I'm curious to see how this formatting works out as I'm using gmail now, not
the Notes account from Big Blue


 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:36:27 -0700
 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID:
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 Good for you.
 Everyone I work with, who is nearing retirement, seems to have their date
 moving out a little further due to the wretched economy.

 Bob R

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:31 PM, ANGELO GIAIMO gia...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  Everyone,
 
  As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service
 and
  will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
  importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over
 the
  years.
 
  Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
  schedule, or you just want to chat).
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Angelo Giaimo
 
  NEW EMAIL
  michaelangel...@gmail.com
 
  HOME ADDRESS:
  63 Hamlet Court
  Wappinger Falls, NY 12590
 
  PHONE:
  845-298-9335 (H)
  845-729-0607 (C)
 
  Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
  Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
  (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
  2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Tom Hargrave]

Corporate America left me a little over 8 years ago. Now I'm a consultant
and I own an on-line kegging supply business.

Oh, and one of my clients is the very same company that canned me 8 years
ago. I work there 3 days / week for 30% more pay per (40 hour) week than I
made as an Employee. They are begging for a 4th day and I remind them that I
originally signed up for only 2 days / week.

Sometimes it sucks being laid off, or so some people tell me..

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Angelo Giaimo
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:25 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement

 Rob,

They let me go in January with 90 days to find another position. If not I
got a GENEROUS separation package, retraining $$$, etc, etc, that I'd be
stupid not to take.  Very fortunate I got my full retirement and medical.
Had not planned to retire yet (due to the economy and job market) , but oh
well, crap happens.  We'll deal with it.  Wife is still working, and that
helps allot.  Golf starts 5/1, and the honey-do list is growing vbg

Obligatory MBZ content: I'll have more time to fix all my oil leaks on my
350SDL rodbender (274K miles...and still ticking)

I'm curious to see how this formatting works out as I'm using gmail now, not
the Notes account from Big Blue


 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:36:27 -0700
 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Retirement
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Message-ID:
2479e1690904271836j2998123dnbe1e3b989b3fb...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Good for you.
 Everyone I work with, who is nearing retirement, seems to have their date
 moving out a little further due to the wretched economy.

 Bob R

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:31 PM, ANGELO GIAIMO gia...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  Everyone,
 
  As of today, I will be retiring from IBM after 30 plus years of service
 and
  will be seeking out new ventures.. I will miss the work, but, more
  importantly, I will miss the people and friends I have accumulated over
 the
  years.
 
  Please feel free to contact me anytime, if you wish (work-related, golf
  schedule, or you just want to chat).
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Angelo Giaimo
 
  NEW EMAIL
  michaelangel...@gmail.com
 
  HOME ADDRESS:
  63 Hamlet Court
  Wappinger Falls, NY 12590
 
  PHONE:
  845-298-9335 (H)
  845-729-0607 (C)
 
  Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
  Internet: gia...@us.ibm.com
  (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
  2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:25:08 -0400 Angelo Giaimo
michaelangel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm curious to see how this formatting works out as I'm using gmail now,
 not the Notes account from Big Blue

It looks just fine.


Craig

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[MBZ] Retirement

[RELNGSON]

 From my friend CS, recently retired NWA 747 Captain:
 
 I had a bad dream last night. 
 
 In it was the FAA, crew scheduling, bad schedules, bad management, 
 self-serving union, unserviceable aircraft equipment, changing weather, 
 freezing rain, 
 no extra holding fuel, ever-changing procedures, endless flight manual 
 revisions, dead heading in the middle seat, broken and lost luggage, nasty 
 passenger agents, crabby old flight attendants, all-nighters, foreign 
 countries, 
 sleep deprivation, mergers, seniority squabbles, company threats, freezing 
 rain, 
 food poisoning, no food, bad coffee, bidding, pulled away from my family for 
 weeks at a time, fleabag hotels, early get-ups, late cabs and maniac cab 
 drivers, bidding vacation, waiting for gates, weather, freezing rain, low 
 visibility approaches, aircraft de-icing, PCs,  Gestapo check airman, 
 medicals, 
 commuting to and from work in unspeakable weather, freezing rain, the parking 
 lot from Hell, parking lot buses, inter-terminal busses, spring break, 
 Christmas rush, Easter rush, PA announcements, insurance, drug and alcohol 
 testing, 
 noise violations, customs lineups, dry cleaning, terrorism, security passes, 
 rude (dumb as dirt) security personnel, high gas/oil prices, pay cuts, rush 
 hour traffic, freezing rain, that infernal alarm clock, crash pads, catching 
 cold away from home, lackadaisical crew members, sexual harassment threats, 
 flight attendants and co-pilots implying that they are a gift to aviation 
 after 
 being there three years, back biting, gossip, cell phones, aircraft cram 
 courses, plus laying my job on the line several times a year with simulators, 
 endless procedural memorization and Annual Recurrent Training days ... did I 
 mention freezing rain?  
 
 Then I woke up.
 
 
 

 . and joyously found myself still retired!
 
 
 Whew!!!
 


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Re: [MBZ] Retirement

[Wilton Strickland]

I have those occasionally, too.  'Bout the only thing on the list missing
from mine is flight attendants - none aboard a B-52.
Oh, and maybe lost luggage and passenger agents.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Retirement


 From my friend CS, recently retired NWA 747 Captain:

 I had a bad dream last night.

 In it was the FAA, crew scheduling, bad schedules, bad management,
 self-serving union, unserviceable aircraft equipment, changing weather,
freezing rain,
 no extra holding fuel, ever-changing procedures, endless flight manual
 revisions, dead heading in the middle seat, broken and lost luggage, nasty
 passenger agents, crabby old flight attendants, all-nighters, foreign
countries,
 sleep deprivation, mergers, seniority squabbles, company threats, freezing
rain,
 food poisoning, no food, bad coffee, bidding, pulled away from my family
for
 weeks at a time, fleabag hotels, early get-ups, late cabs and maniac cab
 drivers, bidding vacation, waiting for gates, weather, freezing rain, low
 visibility approaches, aircraft de-icing, PCs, Gestapo check airman,
medicals,
 commuting to and from work in unspeakable weather, freezing rain, the
parking
 lot from Hell, parking lot buses, inter-terminal busses, spring break,
 Christmas rush, Easter rush, PA announcements, insurance, drug and alcohol
testing,
 noise violations, customs lineups, dry cleaning, terrorism, security
passes,
 rude (dumb as dirt) security personnel, high gas/oil prices, pay cuts,
rush
 hour traffic, freezing rain, that infernal alarm clock, crash pads,
catching
 cold away from home, lackadaisical crew members, sexual harassment
threats,
 flight attendants and co-pilots implying that they are a gift to aviation
after
 being there three years, back biting, gossip, cell phones, aircraft cram
 courses, plus laying my job on the line several times a year with
simulators,
 endless procedural memorization and Annual Recurrent Training days ... did
I
 mention freezing rain?

 Then I woke up.




 . and joyously found myself still retired!


 Whew!!!



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deal here.

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[MBZ] Retirement

[Wilton Strickland]

Oh, add to the nightmare list: nuclear weapons, nuclear systems positive
conntrol procedures and ORI's.

Wilton


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[MBZ] Retirement planning was Re: Scary

[Rick Knoble]

- Original Message - 
From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scary


 How on Earth can you save that much?!? I'll be lucky to make that over
 the course of my lifetime.

 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby

soapbox It is possible, even on a middle class income. Most of us on this
list own, will or have owned Mercedes for various reasons, the primary one
being that we are frugal. If you can live without the latest and greatest of
stuff, you know, reuse/recycle/use up and you don't have to keep up with the
Jones you will be dollars ahead. I have made well over a million dollars
(gross) all totaled over the last twenty seven years. I had almost $100k in
a 401(k) saved in less than 5 years. Drugs/failed relationships and alcohol
took all that away. Now it is time to do it again. I can and will save and
earn from investment income enough to retire. It won't be easy and I am not
fond of playing catch-up. It CAN be done, but you have to want it bad
enough. You know, pinch pennies, invest wisely, delay and save for major
purchases instead of using credit...If I, ( a middle class schmoe with no
formal degree) can do it, so will you /soapbox
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] Retirement planning was Re: Scary

[TimothyPilgrim]

Now, can you do it -without- investing?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 11/22/05, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Scary


  How on Earth can you save that much?!? I'll be lucky to make that over
  the course of my lifetime.
 
  Tim
  1982 300TD Moby

 soapbox It is possible, even on a middle class income. Most of us on this
 list own, will or have owned Mercedes for various reasons, the primary one
 being that we are frugal. If you can live without the latest and greatest of
 stuff, you know, reuse/recycle/use up and you don't have to keep up with the
 Jones you will be dollars ahead. I have made well over a million dollars
 (gross) all totaled over the last twenty seven years. I had almost $100k in
 a 401(k) saved in less than 5 years. Drugs/failed relationships and alcohol
 took all that away. Now it is time to do it again. I can and will save and
 earn from investment income enough to retire. It won't be easy and I am not
 fond of playing catch-up. It CAN be done, but you have to want it bad
 enough. You know, pinch pennies, invest wisely, delay and save for major
 purchases instead of using credit...If I, ( a middle class schmoe with no
 formal degree) can do it, so will you /soapbox
 Rick Knoble
 1985 300 CD

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Re: [MBZ] Retirement planning was Re: Scary

[Rick Knoble]

- Original Message - 
From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now, can you do it -without- investing?

 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby

Nope. The younger you start, the more you accumulate. Compound interest and
time are your friends. It ain't rocket science but I certainly wish I was
twenty or even thirty something again...
http://www.ebri.org/pdf/pymtool.pdf

http://www.moneysense.ca/planning/rrsp/article.jsp?content=100286

http://www.powerinvestor.com/Primer/Types-of-Investments/Compound-Interest-and-Starting-Early.htm

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/yorkweekly/03022005/business/67456.htm

Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] Retirement planning was Re: Scary

[David Brodbeck]

Rick Knoble wrote:

Nope. The younger you start, the more you accumulate. Compound interest and
time are your friends.


And a little luck.  I have a 401(k), but I consider it a form of 
gambling, albeit one where the odds are pretty good.  In my (admittedly 
cynical) view, insiders still hold all the cards; there's been no 
meaningful stock market reform.  Also, no one's really sure what will 
happen to the market when millions of retirees start to cash in their 
holdings.  It seems to me that we may see the market go into a long 
stagnant period when that happens.


Even if the market does well, most experts say people my age will be 
working into their 70s.  They don't explain where we're going to find 
people willing to employ 70-year-olds.