Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Dan  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the
> > ball?

Nope.  No standard height.  But my experience is that 14 to 20
inches [35 to 50 cm] from the ground to the top of the ball is the
most likely range.  And I prefer the ball a bit high more often
than I want it low.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Your go to resource for all things related to this is
> etrailer.com.

I like ETrailer - good info, text transcriptions of their
information videos, real information on their product - sometimes
more than the manufacturers websit, helpful people,  and if you
happen to be near St. Louis MO, the have a will-call desk.   They
don't always have what I need, but I do try to take my business to
them first.

1-7/8, 2, and 2-5/16 are the ball sizes.  U-Haul uses only 2", I'm
pretty sure.  2 inch balls can be rated for quite a range in load
capacity, so be sure to get one "big" enough for your loads.

Also make sure the ball shank/bolt diameter matches the hole in
the ball mount. There are bushings to allow mounting in a hole
that's too big.  I think shank sizes vary from 5/8" to 1.5".

Something like this can be mounted either way so it has a bit of a
of a drop or a very slight rise.
https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/D-4.html

Here is a kit with ball, mount, pin, etc.
https://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/Curt/C45534.html

I like putting a rubber cap over the ball for storage 'cause I
always keep the ball well greased.
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Tow-Ready/42250.html



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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:53:51 -0400 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> > Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.
> >
> > They have guides and product selectors to help.
> 
> Agreed, they are good.

Thank you, Allan, for the confirmation.


> They also supplied a wiring harness that plugged in to the factory
> taillight connectors, so no cutting/splicing wires, and it has an
> independent power source so the car's electronics are unaffected.

I was thinking of mentioning these after I sent my previous message.

They have a LOT of other stuff related to trailers, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On July 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> IIRC, etrailer.com has sleeves which will allow you to use an item meant
> for a less than 2" receiver in a 2" receiver.

But then you're stuck with a 3500lb ball mount in a 2" hitch. 
But you get the smooth euro ball look. 
It also hurts slightly less when you stub your knee on it.

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I was going to recommend a Curt Euroball, even going to offer you one
> of mine, but Curt only makes Euroballs for 1 1/4".

That's a 1-1/4" receiver, not a 1-1/4" ball.


> Euroball, anybody want one of these for $15 plus postage?
> https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45572-Euro-Mount-Ball/dp/B003B3GX5E

IIRC, etrailer.com has sleeves which will allow you to use an item meant
for a less than 2" receiver in a 2" receiver.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

> Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.
>
> They have guides and product selectors to help.

Agreed, they are good. I bought a hitch for my Volvo from them, bolted
right up with no issues. Perfect fit. They also supplied a wiring
harness that plugged in to the factory taillight connectors, so no
cutting/splicing wires, and it has an independent power source so the
car's electronics are unaffected.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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> On July 11, 2019 at 12:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:

> https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 

That works, or if you want flexibility this is a bit uglier and a bit more 
costly:
https://www.amazon.com/MaxxHaul-70067-8-Position-Adjustable-Mount/dp/B008CE06ZA

If you don't already have the ball you might as well buy a full set, mounted 
ball and hitch pin. 

This is about the cheapest I know of today:
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/automotive/towing-cargo-management/trailer-hitches-balls/towsmart-reg-class-iii-standard-ball-mount-starter-kit-w-2-ball/1228/p-147118397-c-1527167451361.htm

This is $24.47 at both Wally World and large wimmen world, and I believe it's 
made in USA.
I was going to recommend a Curt Euroball, even going to offer you one of mine, 
but Curt only makes Euroballs for 1 1/4".
https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45056-Loaded-Ball-Mount/dp/B001EOYK98

Euroball, anybody want one of these for $15 plus postage?
https://www.amazon.com/CURT-45572-Euro-Mount-Ball/dp/B003B3GX5E

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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OR

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=adjustable+ball+mount&ref=nb_sb_noss_2


On 11/07/2019 12:28 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

2" ball is pretty much the go-to if you don't have better information.
So far as drop goes, it totally depends on the trailer and how it's built.
If you have a most-likely trailer, go measure it and then figure out how
much drop to buy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 12:09:43 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the
> dimensions. Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the
> ball?
> 
> I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Your go to resource for all things related to this is etrailer.com.

They have guides and product selectors to help.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Fred and I rented a tow dolly for my '98 Jetta that we pulled with my '03 
Ranger. It vibrated badly if we went over 65mph. Turns out the tow dolly wanted 
a 2" ball, the Ranger had a 1 7/8" (I think thats the next size down) ball.
Oops. Probably was also a problem when I was towing the '84 190D but on that 
tow the weather was bad so I never wanted to go faster than 60mph anyway...
-Curt

On Thursday, July 11, 2019, 12:40:11 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
> drop on the ball mount.
>
> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
> different size cup.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
> >
> > I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's pretty much what I have, it's the kinda standard setup. Remember 
too that the back end will sag a bit with a load on it


--FT

On 7/11/19 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, guys. I’m pretty well set on a 2” ball, that I know. I was more 
concerned about the drop for the ball mount.

I was looking through the ML forum on BW and a couple of people have posted 
there about their hitch setups. Looks like most are using this:

https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 


This has a 2” drop, which is probably more than enough for the ML considering 
the bumper height.

??

-D




On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
drop on the ball mount.

You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
different size cup.

--FT

On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s

hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental

from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

2" ball is pretty much the go-to if you don't have better information.
So far as drop goes, it totally depends on the trailer and how it's built.
If you have a most-likely trailer, go measure it and then figure out how
much drop to buy.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, guys. I’m pretty well set on a 2” ball, that I know. I was more 
concerned about the drop for the ball mount.

I was looking through the ML forum on BW and a couple of people have posted 
there about their hitch setups. Looks like most are using this:

https://www.amazon.com/DRAW-TITE-2923-Class-Mount/dp/B001O07P9E 


This has a 2” drop, which is probably more than enough for the ML considering 
the bumper height.

??

-D



> On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
>> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
>> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
>> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
>> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
>> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
>> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
>> drop on the ball mount.
>> 
>> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
>> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
>> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
>> different size cup.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
>> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
>> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
>> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
>>> 
>>> I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
>> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

2 inch ball was required by all the trailers I've rented from U-haul.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but
> the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2
> different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on
> what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I
> turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that
> ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder
> should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches
> drop on the ball mount.
>
> You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just
> rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you
> think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a
> different size cup.
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s
> hitch. It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go
> about figuring out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions.
> Is there a standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?
> >
> > I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental
> from UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have some straight (well they have a bit of drop, maybe an inch but 
the ball is pretty much in line with the receiver) mounts with 2 
different size balls I use on the trucks, can switch them depending on 
what I need.  Standard ball is 2", i have this little boat trailer I 
turned into a kayak rack trailer, it is 1 7/8" so I have one with that 
ball on it.  The ML hitch is fairly high, so this "straight" ball holder 
should work fine.  The guys with brodozer trucks might need a few inches 
drop on the ball mount.


You can buy those ball holders that have 3 different sizes, you just 
rotate to get the one you need.  That might be worthwhile to get if you 
think you might ever need to pull some other kind of trailer with a 
different size cup.


--FT

On 7/11/19 12:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s hitch. 
It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go about figuring 
out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions. Is there a 
standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental from 
UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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[MBZ] Trailer Hitch Ball Mount

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m trying to figure out what kind of ball mount to get for the ML500’s hitch. 
It’s got a 2” receiver, but I’m not sure exactly how I should go about figuring 
out what kind of ball mount I should get, or the dimensions. Is there a 
standard height I should try to achieve with the ball?

I don’t have a trailer, and if I use one, it will probably be a rental from 
UHaul (gotta haul an old MG, right?)

Thanks,

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Trailer hitch done

[M G]

My understanding was that the factory used the same bolts to hold their trailer 
hitch on. In any case there is an expensive aftermarket hitch that uses the 
same fastening with the addition of I believe one more bolt on each side 
fastened to the under side of the main body channels on each side. Since I 
don't intend to pull heavy trailers I'm pretty sure that the bumper fasteners 
will be good enough. If needed I can always add two bolts to the bumper to give 
it a bit more hold. 

The hitch that came on my 300D is done that way. Two bolts to the bumper and a 
couple to the bottom of the spare tire well. I did add a bit of extra metal 
inside the well (4" x 12") to kind of spread the load a bit. I haven't had any 
problems with that in the 7 or so years that I've used it. So given that I 
believe that for the intended use my hitch will be at least as good.

Manfred 

Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:49:18 -0500
From: Max Dillon 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer hitch done

Looks fine to me!  My only concern is all the bolts to the body - what is on 
the other side of the body metal?  If just a nut and a washer, that is 
considerably less substantial than a factory hitch.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer hitch done

[Max Dillon]

Looks fine to me!  My only concern is all the bolts to the body - what is on 
the other side of the body metal?  If just a nut and a washer, that is 
considerably less substantial than a factory hitch.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

MG  wrote:

>Well I just got done making painting and installing my receiver hitch 
>for my 300TD. Sort of OK but I don't really like the clunky look of it 
>hanging down below the bumper so I may make a second version with the 
>main bar behind the bumper. That way all that will be visible is the 
>receiver.
>
>Pictures attached.
>
>Manfred
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch

[MG]

No. It is more or less my own try. Still uses the three bolts on each 
side with a plate, so in that sense it does copy the factory design.


Manfred

Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 17:19:02 -0500
From: Max Dillon 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch
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Did you copy the factory design?
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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch

[Max Dillon]

Did you copy the factory design?
-- 
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M G  wrote:

>I just finished and installed a trailer hitch on mt TD. I added some
>pictures for those interested but the message is awaiting OK from
>Kaleb.
>
>Manfred
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[MBZ] trailer hitch

[M G]

I just finished and installed a trailer hitch on mt TD. I added some pictures 
for those interested but the message is awaiting OK from Kaleb.

Manfred

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[MBZ] trailer hitch for 240d etc

[Rick Hawkins Java]

there are all kinds of trailer hitches on fleaBay, new for $148 elivered

used ones can probably be had for $50 if you are patient

and if you want to build your own, there are plenty of pictures to  
look at for designs

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch

[TimothyPilgrim]

Ralph,

I'd like to see photos of it if you could. The hitch is for an
associate, not myself, so the yea or nea comes from him.

Tim
1982 300TD
1991 300TE 4Matic


Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 18:44:42 -0500
From: "Ralph W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch

Tim,
I have a light duty hitch hitch for sale. It was on my wagon which I am
parting out. I can send pictures if you are interested. It mounted to the
bumper and the body. Tongue weight was rated at 150lbs with a max pulling
capacity of roughly 1500lbs.

Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch

[Ralph W]

Tim,
I have a light duty hitch hitch for sale. It was on my wagon which I am 
parting out. I can send pictures if you are interested. It mounted to the 
bumper and the body. Tongue weight was rated at 150lbs with a max pulling 
capacity of roughly 1500lbs.


Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
- Original Message - 
From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch



What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD?

Tim
1982 300TD
1991 300TE 4Matic

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer Hitch

[Kevin]

On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:27:58AM -0500, TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD?

Better if you give up now and look for one for your TE instead.

K

[MBZ] Trailer Hitch

[TimothyPilgrim]

What are the prospects of finding a trailer hitch for a 1984 300TD?

Tim
1982 300TD
1991 300TE 4Matic

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No, must have got overlooked or something.  I sent him an invite though 
so will see what happens.


Joe Knight wrote:


http://henriksens.net/index.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=26
Seems to have pulled the pics he once had up of his hitch, but you
might want to explore the site to see if I've missed them.

Arne used to be subscribed as Arne Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kaleb, if you wouldn't mind checking to see if he's still with us, at
least in spirit.

joe

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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

http://henriksens.net/index.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=26
Seems to have pulled the pics he once had up of his hitch, but you
might want to explore the site to see if I've missed them.

Arne used to be subscribed as Arne Henriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Kaleb, if you wouldn't mind checking to see if he's still with us, at
least in spirit.

joe

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

How about Arne?  I seem to have lost track of his addy.

joe

On 7/13/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no clue, anybody have his email address?

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no clue, anybody have his email address?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Darrell and Joe,

Thanks for the info.  My last choice will be to purchase an aftermarket hitch 
and have it installed by a local shop that has earned my respect (they 
installed the hitch on my 123.190, fabricating missing parts as required using 
the pictures from German language installation instructions).  I would be a lot 
more comfortable going that route if I at least had equivalent installation 
instructions, which were kindly provided by Dr. Becker of Great Britain.

Kaleb - is Dr. Becker still subscribed?  I haven't seen a post from him in a 
couple years.

Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[David Brodbeck]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 8:42:39 -0400, meadedillon wrote
> Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less' 
> says it's a class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says 
> that class 2 hitches are rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the 
> manufacturer has downgraded it for this application?

Yes, probably.  It might be a vehicle limitation.  It can be hard to find
solid enough attachment points for really heavy loads, on unibody cars. 
Tongue weight is often sharply limited, too.  My Volvo was rated for up to
3,300 pounds of towed weight but only 300 pounds of tongue weight, which isn't
very much for a trailer that size.  (Generally you want the tongue weight to
be 10 to 15% of the trailer weight, for stable towing.)

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

The ball/mount is indeed one-piece at 50mm.  That is a limitation.

On 7/13/05, Richard Hattaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> 
> One of my issues on 'factory' hitches that I have seen is that the ball
> appears to be welded permanently on the mount.  I have 1 7/8 and 2 inch
> trailers in the yard.  So I require a receiver type hitch to have the
> flexibility to change the ball size.

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

I think the hitch itself is rated for 1900KG.  That's not to say that
MB has certified that 1900KG is a safe load for the wagons.  IIRC,
Arne's caravan weighed in at considerably more than 1500KG though.

joe

On 7/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Casey, Joe, Loren;
> 
> Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less' says it's 
> a class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says that class 2 hitches 
> are rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the manufacturer has downgraded it 
> for this application?
> 
> Joe: I've got the 1985 Technical Data for Cars, which includes some data on 
> the first versions of the 124 series (sedan only) and it says that sedans are 
> rated for 1500 kg.  Do you have more recent documentation re: a 1900kg 
> rating, or was that a typo?

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Richard Hattaway]

FWIW,

The hitch4less unit is a Valley...

I had a Valley hitch on my wife's car, which is not MB, but I was very
happy with it.  It was one of the smaller, IE Class 2, hitches, but we
safely towed a 16 foot catamaran to the outer banks with it on a
'fairly' regular basis.

One of my issues on 'factory' hitches that I have seen is that the ball
appears to be welded permanently on the mount.  I have 1 7/8 and 2 inch
trailers in the yard.  So I require a receiver type hitch to have the
flexibility to change the ball size.

Richard

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Casey, Joe, Loren;
> 
> Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less'
> says it's a class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says that
> class 2 hitches are rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the
> manufacturer has downgraded it for this application?
> 
> Joe: I've got the 1985 Technical Data for Cars, which includes some
> data on the first versions of the 124 series (sedan only) and it says
> that sedans are rated for 1500 kg.  Do you have more recent
> documentation re: a 1900kg rating, or was that a typo?
> 
> Max 
> 
> 
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
> Digest Lurker since 2001
> ’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
> '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
> '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
> Charleston SC
> 
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[MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[meadedillon]

Casey, Joe, Loren;

Keep those idea's flowing!  It's curious that the 'hitches-4-less' says it's a 
class 2, only rated for 2500 lbs, but their FAQ says that class 2 hitches are 
rated for 3500 lbs.  Hmmm - I guess the manufacturer has downgraded it for this 
application?

Joe: I've got the 1985 Technical Data for Cars, which includes some data on the 
first versions of the 124 series (sedan only) and it says that sedans are rated 
for 1500 kg.  Do you have more recent documentation re: a 1900kg rating, or was 
that a typo?

Max 


Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
Digest Lurker since 2001
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

[MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[meadedillon]

Darrell and Joe,

Thanks for the info.  My last choice will be to purchase an aftermarket hitch 
and have it installed by a local shop that has earned my respect (they 
installed the hitch on my 123.190, fabricating missing parts as required using 
the pictures from German language installation instructions).  I would be a lot 
more comfortable going that route if I at least had equivalent installation 
instructions, which were kindly provided by Dr. Becker of Great Britain.

Kaleb - is Dr. Becker still subscribed?  I haven't seen a post from him in a 
couple years.

Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

"Most men would rather die, than think. Many do." Bertrand Russell

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Jan Guthrie]

These are hitches that I have found for the 1987 TD.

http://store.yahoo.com/hitches4less/mercedes-benz-300-trailer-hitch.html

http://www.kwikhitch.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=K&Product_Code=257216&Category_Code=dlncl1

Jan

-Original Message-
From: Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jul 12, 2005 11:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

I have a sideview printout of the mounting instructions for a 124 wagon 
hitch I downloaded off the web a while back. For the life of me I can't 
figure out what the brand name is, and googling doesn't offer any help 
either. I intend to use this diagram as a design template when I weld up my 
own hitch. I see they still offer a 124 sedan hitch, but I know they mount 
to the body quite differently.

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

Interestingly, the epc lists a "radiator installation kit", 124 500 39
03 for .193 & .393 to be used on vehicles w/ a/c and trailed load
exceeding 1500KG.  Is Arne still subscribed, Kaleb?

joe

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

Might be ok if you're not too much a purist and can stand for the
diminished capacity.  The factory coupling is rated at 1900KG trailed
load and disappears upon removal of the easily detachable ball head. 
Think I'll hold out a while longer.

joe

On 7/12/05, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, what about this unit?
> 
> http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Loren Faeth]

It is still $300 plus mounting and wiring , rustproofing etc.  I think i'd 
just get out the welder and build one.  I'd like one too, if we want to try 
for a group purchase.  Bet we could get orders for 6-12 124 wagon trailer 
hitches.   I 'd have to dig through the files, but I think someone sent 
those interested a drawing to build your own.


At 11:27 PM 7/12/2005, you wrote:

Hey, what about this unit?

http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html


Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k)
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA
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Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Zeitgeist]

Hey, what about this unit?

http://www.hitches4less.com/19mer30tein4.html


> Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Zeitgeist]

I have a sideview printout of the mounting instructions for a 124 wagon 
hitch I downloaded off the web a while back. For the life of me I can't 
figure out what the brand name is, and googling doesn't offer any help 
either. I intend to use this diagram as a design template when I weld up my 
own hitch. I see they still offer a 124 sedan hitch, but I know they mount 
to the body quite differently.

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Joe Knight]

It does exist, Max.  Trick is *finding* one on this side of the Pond. 
I picked one up couple of yrs ago in hopes that it would fit my wagon,
but it'll take some modifications to the cross bar & acquisition of
the mounting kit if it's ever to be installed.  Part numbers on this
one weren't at all definitive; I still don't know what model it was
intended for.  Your best bet might be someone in  Europe who's willing
to undertake a little legwork.  I can probably pull up the appropriate
p/n's, but believe me, you won't want to pay for new.

joe

On 7/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shipmates (esp. Der Dieseling Doktor, Dave M., Casey, and other 124 wagon 
> owners/experts);
> 
> I checked out an '87 300TD this evening, and I'm considering making an offer 
> to buy.  The burning question of the moment is 'Can I get a factory trailer 
> hitch for this thing?'
> 
> Anyone who can help, I'd really appreciate it.  It took me many months to 
> find a factory hitch for my '85 wagon, and I'll not switch to a 124 wagon if 
> such a hitch is unavailable (rated for 1500 kg).

Re: [MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Meade, try Draw-Tite.com. I know they make a 2000# hitch for the sedan, 
I have one, but I haven't looked for the SW.


DWS

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Shipmates (esp. Der Dieseling Doktor, Dave M., Casey, and other 124 wagon 
owners/experts);

I checked out an '87 300TD this evening, and I'm considering making an offer to 
buy.  The burning question of the moment is 'Can I get a factory trailer hitch 
for this thing?'

Anyone who can help, I'd really appreciate it.  It took me many months to find 
a factory hitch for my '85 wagon, and I'll not switch to a 124 wagon if such a 
hitch is unavailable (rated for 1500 kg).

Thanks in advance,
/s/
Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

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[MBZ] trailer hitch for 87 300TD

[meadedillon]

Shipmates (esp. Der Dieseling Doktor, Dave M., Casey, and other 124 wagon 
owners/experts);

I checked out an '87 300TD this evening, and I'm considering making an offer to 
buy.  The burning question of the moment is 'Can I get a factory trailer hitch 
for this thing?'

Anyone who can help, I'd really appreciate it.  It took me many months to find 
a factory hitch for my '85 wagon, and I'll not switch to a 124 wagon if such a 
hitch is unavailable (rated for 1500 kg).

Thanks in advance,
/s/
Max

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
’85 300TD 321k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 148k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

"Most men would rather die, than think. Many do." Bertrand Russell