Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Picked up 7 quarts of NAPA house brand Dexron ATF today. I'll use that in the first fill at least, and assuming the transmission doesn't grind itself up I may use the M1 (already purchansed) down the road. Does ATF have a shelf life? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: Start looking for a new transmission it's only a matter of time. So anyone have a diesel W116 parts car with a good transmission? Rusty, your rebuilds still come with torque converter and warranty, right? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
As far as I know that kind of snap ring does not have anything to do with the B2 problem as that controls a band. The crawling forward if the pawl is not engaged could very well be caused by whatever the snap ring should hold. The part is now dragging and making the car move forward. It is also possible that the same is happening in gear and may cause lower fuel mileage. Won't know enough about all that till the tranny is taken apart. You should probably also have seen a lot of fine aluminum filings in the oil and larger in the bottom of the pan. The oil would kind of shimmer in the sunlight as you swirl it around in the pan. Manfred Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:17:41 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Agree, that's what I thought. I'm hoping there's enough of it left in place to hold for a while. Did the W116 have the transmissions that were prone to the B2 piston failure? (Though this does not look like any part of that as far as I can remember, having replaced one a few years back in my W123.) To clarify: the pawl is working, it's more like it's not totally going into neutral. There's still a bit of power getting to the output so if I am stopped on level ground, put the gear selector in Park, and give it some throttle it will roll forward until the pawl catches. Will see what happens with fresh fluid and filter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
On Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:27 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: The crawling forward if the pawl is not engaged could very well be caused by whatever the snap ring should hold. The part is now dragging and making the car move forward. It is also possible that the same is happening in gear and may cause lower fuel mileage. Won't know enough about all that till the tranny is taken apart. Unless these are rebuildable without a lot of investment in special tools, I don't think I'll be doing that myself. You should probably also have seen a lot of fine aluminum filings in the oil and larger in the bottom of the pan. The oil would kind of shimmer in the sunlight as you swirl it around in the pan. Surprisingly, the pan was very clean other than that broken ring caught in the filter. The fluid did not really shimmer that I noticed, but was rather dark; its age unknown. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Given the evident damage I would not try to rebuild it unless you have access to another tranny of the exact same kind as you will probably encounter hard part damage, possibly even damage to the tranny case where in some cases there are internal snap-rings holding to the case. If there is damage there then that would require a new case. All in all I would go with a rebuilt (Q) or a takee-outee from a upull if cost is more important then your time and labor. Manfred Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:45:19 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Check out what this guy says about his Bronco... combined with the indications that I have a broken snap ring, doesn't bode well. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1449670-post5.html Is rebuilding one of these something that can be done without a lot of special tools and knowledge? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Oh! forgot to add. For an auto tranny rebuild there is a, in my mind, rather steep learning curve and depending on the transmission also required specialized tools and measurements. Having done 350's, 904's and 700r4's I don't want to even try one of these at my age. I will just get a rebuild when needed and be done with it. Manfred Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:45:19 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Check out what this guy says about his Bronco... combined with the indications that I have a broken snap ring, doesn't bode well. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1449670-post5.html Is rebuilding one of these something that can be done without a lot of special tools and knowledge? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:42 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've no clue what that is, but I fear the worst. I'd say conventional ATF for now. Aren't you glad you dropped the pan!?! Heh. Yes and no. Seems that every time I open a panel or cover on this car I find something else that's broken. Funny thing is other than seeming a bit noisy (gear noise, nothing really grinding or bad sounding) and creeping a bit in Park, the transmission seems to work just fine. And the noise may be partly due to the fact that I have all the floor mats and underlayment out right now --- down to a bare metal floor. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I'd also say conventional, I'm in the midst of doing this with my '84 190D, I figure after 30,000 miles or so I'll switch to M1. You find any random pieces of metal in your filter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
No but the previous owner was poor about maintenance. I figure 30,000 miles will flush the previously left alone crap into the filter, then I'll do another filter and fill with M1. I may even do it myself that time, I've never done an AT service before, always subbed it out. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:24:57 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Message-ID: m1hb23aeo6@140-182-148-180.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I'd also say conventional, I'm in the midst of doing this with my '84 190D, I figure after 30,000 miles or so I'll switch to M1. You find any random pieces of metal in your filter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
AT fluid/filter change is not hard. Just messy. Smurf gloves are your friend. Buy the ones at NAPA, not the ones at HF. 4 or 6 bolts and a screw. (and an allen wrench if you are going to do the TC. As others have said, don't do it with the fluid at 160-180º F. Wait until the temp cools some. (unless you are lucky enough to have an AT with a drain plug. You need a floor jack and good jackstands. The HF 12 ton ones are good if you have a jack with enough guts to lift the car that high. It is a good idea to slide something under there to hold up the car if the jackstands tip. 2 mounted and inflated tires... 12 x 12 3-4' long etc. I generally loosen the bolts at the low end most and loosen the ones at the high end so a lot of the oil will drain out before I drop the pan. No but the previous owner was poor about maintenance. I figure 30,000 miles will flush the previously left alone crap into the filter, then I'll do another filter and fill with M1. I may even do it myself that time, I've never done an AT service before, always subbed it out. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Also pay attention to the torque specs when reinstalling the pan. They are pretty low. If you overtighten it you will warp the pan and it will leak. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: AT fluid/filter change is not hard. Just messy. Smurf gloves are your friend. Buy the ones at NAPA, not the ones at HF. 4 or 6 bolts and a screw. (and an allen wrench if you are going to do the TC. As others have said, don't do it with the fluid at 160-180º F. Wait until the temp cools some. (unless you are lucky enough to have an AT with a drain plug. You need a floor jack and good jackstands. The HF 12 ton ones are good if you have a jack with enough guts to lift the car that high. It is a good idea to slide something under there to hold up the car if the jackstands tip. 2 mounted and inflated tires... 12 x 12 3-4' long etc. I generally loosen the bolts at the low end most and loosen the ones at the high end so a lot of the oil will drain out before I drop the pan. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
That looks like a piece of an internal snap-ring. This would usually hold a set of clutches and or a clutch piston in the case or in a drum in the transmission. Could have broken from age or damage to the ledges that keep the ring in place. Only a matter of time till there is more damage and the transmission quites. Possible cause could be shifts that are too rough due to too high a shift pressure and cause the clutches or piston to bang against that ring way too hard and breaking the land that it rests in. Start looking for a new transmission it's only a matter of time. The car should not be able to move in park unless the parking pawl is broken or a tooth or two are broken off the shaft or drum that it locks. Now maybe occasionally the pawl will not engage a notch and the car may move a bit till the pawl catches in the next notch. Manfred Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: So tonight I drain the tranmission and TC, planning to do a fluid change. The fluid is rather dark so it's likely well overdue. I drop the pan, and stuck lengthwise about halfway into in the filter intake opening I find this: http://tinyurl.com/cnx739a ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: That looks like a piece of an internal snap-ring. Agree, that's what I thought. I'm hoping there's enough of it left in place to hold for a while. Did the W116 have the transmissions that were prone to the B2 piston failure? (Though this does not look like any part of that as far as I can remember, having replaced one a few years back in my W123.) The car should not be able to move in park unless the parking pawl is broken or a tooth or two are broken off the shaft or drum that it locks. Now maybe occasionally the pawl will not engage a notch and the car may move a bit till the pawl catches in the next notch. To clarify: the pawl is working, it's more like it's not totally going into neutral. There's still a bit of power getting to the output so if I am stopped on level ground, put the gear selector in Park, and give it some throttle it will roll forward until the pawl catches. Will see what happens with fresh fluid and filter. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: To clarify: the pawl is working, it's more like it's not totally going into neutral. There's still a bit of power getting to the output so if I am stopped on level ground, put the gear selector in Park, and give it some throttle it will roll forward until the pawl catches. Check out what this guy says about his Bronco... combined with the indications that I have a broken snap ring, doesn't bode well. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1449670-post5.html Is rebuilding one of these something that can be done without a lot of special tools and knowledge? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
If fluid level is OK why would changing the transmission fluid have any effect on your creeping in park syndrome? On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you checked the transmission fluid level? When low it can cause a whine. Manfred Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:10:02 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Really sounds like it's coming from the trans, low and up front. I am ruling out the diff for now since the noise really seems too far forward for that. Though noises can be deceiving... Allan __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: If fluid level is OK why would changing the transmission fluid have any effect on your creeping in park syndrome? Now that I think about it the fluid might be a bit high. It's reading full with the transmission cold or at best warmish. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
I wonder if high level can also cause the whine? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: If fluid level is OK why would changing the transmission fluid have any effect on your creeping in park syndrome? Now that I think about it the fluid might be a bit high. It's reading full with the transmission cold or at best warmish. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
If the filter is plugged, pressure to the valve body may be too low and cause weirdness. Junk in the valve body can do the same. I'm a firm believer in M1 ATF after my 124.193's transmission improved dramatically when filled with M1 and driven for about 10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If fluid level is OK why would changing the transmission fluid have any effect on your creeping in park syndrome? On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:47 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you checked the transmission fluid level? When low it can cause a whine. Manfred Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:10:02 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Really sounds like it's coming from the trans, low and up front. I am ruling out the diff for now since the noise really seems too far forward for that. Though noises can be deceiving... Allan _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
I've still never seen M1 ATF for sale anywhere. If the filter is plugged, pressure to the valve body may be too low and cause weirdness. Junk in the valve body can do the same. I'm a firm believer in M1 ATF after my 124.193's transmission improved dramatically when filled with M1 and driven for about 10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
All of the FLAPS have it around here. I have a couple of quarts sitting in my garage right now. Dan From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC I've still never seen M1 ATF for sale anywhere. If the filter is plugged, pressure to the valve body may be too low and cause weirdness. Junk in the valve body can do the same. I'm a firm believer in M1 ATF after my 124.193's transmission improved dramatically when filled with M1 and driven for about 10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
On Nov 7, 2011 4:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I've still never seen M1 ATF for sale anywhere. Autozone reliably stocks it here, but at NAPA or anywhere else it's special order only. Alex Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: Autozone reliably stocks it here, but at NAPA or anywhere else it's special order only. Yep, got mine at Autozone. They have cases of it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Autozone carries it here in South Carolina, but it is pricey. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I've still never seen M1 ATF for sale anywhere. If the filter is plugged, pressure to the valve body may be too low and cause weirdness. Junk in the valve body can do the same. I'm a firm believer in M1 ATF after my 124.193's transmission improved dramatically when filled with M1 and driven for about 10k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: Autozone carries it here in South Carolina, but it is pricey. Compared to the cost of a new transmission? Of course the evidence that M1 will prolong the life of your transmission is mostly anectodal, AFAIK. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Well, the walton outlaws drove all the walton flaps out of the region years ago. = No autozoña around here. Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: Autozone reliably stocks it here, but at NAPA or anywhere else it's special order only. Yep, got mine at Autozone. They have cases of it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:16:34 -0800 (PST) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: All of the FLAPS have it around here. I have a couple of quarts sitting in my garage right now. Same for me, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Turbos can whine or shriek if there's an exhaust leak. I'll double check, I have a new exhaust from the turbo back, though I don't hear it under the hood at all. Really sounds like it's coming from the trans, low and up front. I am ruling out the diff for now since the noise really seems too far forward for that. Though noises can be deceiving... Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: I did notice that the transmission, while it seems to shift nicely, is rather noisy, or maybe it's the TC? A pronounced whine or gear noise. Another thing I noticed, in Park the car still pulls forward a bit. The pawl holds it, but if I give it a little throttle it will roll forward until it hits the pawl. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
How is the fluid level? I'd recommend changing the fluid and filter as the next step. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: I did notice that the transmission, while it seems to shift nicely, is rather noisy, or maybe it's the TC? A pronounced whine or gear noise. Another thing I noticed, in Park the car still pulls forward a bit. The pawl holds it, but if I give it a little throttle it will roll forward until it hits the pawl. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: How is the fluid level? I'd recommend changing the fluid and filter as the next step. Level is good but last change is unknown. I am planning a change ASAP, I have the filter kit and fluid, just need the time... probably get to it in the next couple of days. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Have you checked the transmission fluid level? When low it can cause a whine. Manfred Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:10:02 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC Really sounds like it's coming from the trans, low and up front. I am ruling out the diff for now since the noise really seems too far forward for that. Though noises can be deceiving... Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Took the W116 out on the road today... didn't go too far from home since this was the first time I've really had it out on the road under its own power. It drives pretty well. Tracks properly, steering feels good, brakes are maybe a little rusty but working. I did notice that the transmission, while it seems to shift nicely, is rather noisy, or maybe it's the TC? A pronounced whine or gear noise. Checked fluid and the level is correct, though I am planning to change it soon since I don't have any records on when it was last done. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC
Turbos can whine or shriek if there's an exhaust leak. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
