[MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley
A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars 
takes on the MBZ 123:

http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Zach

Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts"



--- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars 
> takes on the MBZ 123:
> 
> http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm
> 

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Those guys are on crack.  If I knew where I could find a GTI 16V for
$1K I'd buy a cargo container full and resell them for five times
that.

On 7/10/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts"
>
>
>
> --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars
> > takes on the MBZ 123:
> >
> > http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm
> >
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:31:47 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A web site that describes the pros and cons of old "beater" cars 
> takes on the MBZ 123:
> 
> http://www.beaterreview.com/botw/BeaterReview_botw_18.htm

The bottom video was taken at Morro Rock at Morro Bay, California, on the
coast from San Luis Obispo (we used to live a few miles south of there).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-10 Thread Hendrik Riessen
S, if people think that Mercs are expensive to fix and maintain then 
resale values will remain sensiblehopefully.

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>
> Not bad, aside from the nonsense about "expensive parts"
>
>
>
> --- Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Gary Thompson
Too late. There's a beater 240D on Craigs list here (Austin, TX) this
morning for $5000. I couldn't give away a 1984 300D in about the same
shape for $1500 several years ago.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 7/10/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> S, if people think that Mercs are expensive to fix and maintain then
> resale values will remain sensiblehopefully.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
a beater 240D on Craigs list here (Austin, TX) this
morning for $5000. I couldn't give away a 1984 300D in about the same
shape for $1500 several years ago.

No kidding!  I can't believe the number of Mercedes diesels around here that 
are priced around 4K that need AC recharging (probably need more than that), 
non-functioning power windows, even imperfect paint.  240D's around here 
have been affected by the biodiesel craze, so if it runs at all and can run 
on bioD, it's worth at least $3K.  If it's a W126 you're after, those can 
still be acquired rather cheaply, anywhere from a $1000 running beater to 
$3500 for a reasonably good example.

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years 
(diesels that is).

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>a beater 240D on Craigs list here (Austin, TX) this
> morning for $5000. I couldn't give away a 1984 300D in about the same
> shape for $1500 several years ago.
>
> No kidding!  I can't believe the number of Mercedes diesels around here 
> that
> are priced around 4K that need AC recharging (probably need more than 
> that),
> non-functioning power windows, even imperfect paint.  240D's around here
> have been affected by the biodiesel craze, so if it runs at all and can 
> run
> on bioD, it's worth at least $3K.  If it's a W126 you're after, those can
> still be acquired rather cheaply, anywhere from a $1000 running beater to
> $3500 for a reasonably good example.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
(diesels that is).

My guess is that it's the size of the W126's that makes them less appealing. 
Perhaps, they're looked down upon for being the older person's car rather 
than the much more hip 240D.  I really like the quieter W126.

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Zach

--- Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rather than the much more hip 240D.  

*snicker*


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/11/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
> >(diesels that is).
>
> My guess is that it's the size of the W126's that makes them less appealing.
> Perhaps, they're looked down upon for being the older person's car rather
> than the much more hip 240D.  I really like the quieter W126.
>

Yeah, that's my guess too.  To the general public, the 123 has a
funky, retro, practical feel to it, like a Volvo 240.  But the 126 is
bigger than it needs to be, and its design (like that of the 124 and
201) is too modern to be hip---it smacks of conspicuous consumption.
Also, as a general rule, to normal people (not gearheads), cars from
the '70s are old enough to be thought of as classics, while most '80s
cars are just worn-out junk.

Alex Chamberlain

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yea, I guess the 126 does still have a modern look to it where as the 123 is 
more classic now.

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> On 7/11/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
>> >(diesels that is).
>>
>> My guess is that it's the size of the W126's that makes them less 
>> appealing.
>> Perhaps, they're looked down upon for being the older person's car rather
>> than the much more hip 240D.  I really like the quieter W126.
>>
>
> Yeah, that's my guess too.  To the general public, the 123 has a
> funky, retro, practical feel to it, like a Volvo 240.  But the 126 is
> bigger than it needs to be, and its design (like that of the 124 and
> 201) is too modern to be hip---it smacks of conspicuous consumption.
> Also, as a general rule, to normal people (not gearheads), cars from
> the '70s are old enough to be thought of as classics, while most '80s
> cars are just worn-out junk.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread LarryT
kevin wrote<>

Now, I've heard it all!   LOL!
Man!  with prices like that I may put my 78 240D in the market!
;-)

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> dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
> (diesels that is).
>
> My guess is that it's the size of the W126's that makes them less 
> appealing.
> Perhaps, they're looked down upon for being the older person's car rather
> than the much more hip 240D.  I really like the quieter W126.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/11/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kevin wrote<>
>
> Now, I've heard it all!   LOL!
> Man!  with prices like that I may put my 78 240D in the market!
> ;-)
>

It's true, though.  I don't think you fellows in the rest of the
country understand quite how crazy the Mercedes diesel market is here
in the Pacific Northwest.  A few factors in combination---the
discovery of biofuels by the granola culture (no offense intended as
I'm kind of one myself), the old-car culture that already had a solid
presence (thanks to our mild climate and unsalted roads), and the fact
that there have always been more furrin than domestic cars on the West
Coast---have created a perfect storm for 123 desirability.  It's like
the tulip mania in 17th-century Holland.  Sell your 240D here while
you can and retire on the proceeds!

The upside, of course, is that for every boom there's a bust.  In a
couple of years when a wide selection of new cars designed to run on
ULSD are on the market, all the flower children will be trading their
300Ds for diesel Accords, and the former will be available dirt cheap.
 Sadly, I suspect many of them will be in dire condition and need a
lot of TLC.  Judging by the number of 123 wagons I see dragging ass
around town with blown SLS systems, many of the bio-crazy purchasers
of Benzes are out of their depth, with neither the will nor the cash
to take proper care of an old car.

Alex Chamberlain

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
Heresy I understand, but a stable of one W123 is sufficient. Two if you need
a backup. Ten if you find wagons.

Now, to work on getting that Volvo 240 so I look even more like a liberal
arts professor. Might even have to take up the pipe again -- ah, the aroma
of Captain Black ... !

Joking aside, this beater article has inspired me to attack the few places
of surface rust on my W123, rather than letting them wait until the fall.

On 7/11/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Unless you get a 123 wagon from a list member at a really good price.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Luther
Unless you get a 123 wagon from a list member at a really good price. 

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Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
> (diesels that is). 
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread OK Don
Heresy indeed! A stable of only ONE MB is not nearly acceptable!

And to think I was considering trading my 240D locally - I need to get
it to the PNW and sell it ---

On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heresy I understand, but a stable of one W123 is sufficient. Two if you need
> a backup.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
many of the bio-crazy purchasers
of Benzes are out of their depth, with neither the will nor the cash
to take proper care of an old car.

There was a gray 300SD bouncing and clattering away at a red light here in 
downtown Portland the other day.  My first thought was "Let me work on that 
thing!!"  Some Diesel purge and an Italian Tune-up would be good, and if 
that didn't do it, $400 for rebuilt injectors plus recalibration along with 
a valve adjustment would have done a world of difference.  Man, I can't wait 
until I have a garage again!

Kevin in Portland, OR
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
Yea, I guess the 126 does still have a modern look to it where as the 123 is
more classic now.

I would be more interested in a W115 (either a '76 300D or a '72 220D) to 
accompany the 300SD.  I'll be on the lookout for one in September when I've 
got some money saved up.  Most tend to be in beater condition even for over 
$1K as a '72 220D came up for sale on the local Craigslist for $1700.

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/car/370755576.html

Uh, NO!

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.

With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:

Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic
requirement).
Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook -- she
loves it.
My '77 W123 (my baby)
My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my "fun car."
My '72 Honda motorcycle.
One moped.
Seven bicycles.

Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if it is
a W123?


On 7/11/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heresy indeed! A stable of only ONE MB is not nearly acceptable!
>
> And to think I was considering trading my 240D locally - I need to get
> it to the PNW and sell it ---
>
> On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Heresy I understand, but a stable of one W123 is sufficient. Two if you
> need
> > a backup.
>
> --
> OK Don, KD5NRO
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread OK Don
Those are not sufficient excuses! Three drivers, NO garage, 4 MBs, 5
or 6 bicycles and one van --- I came to my senses (and acknowledged
mortality) and sold both BWM bikes.
Almost forgot the two boats.

On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.
>
> With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:
>

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
How about this: I work for a non-profit ... in human services.

Any history with their pay structures?   :-)

On 7/11/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Those are not sufficient excuses! Three drivers, NO garage, 4 MBs, 5
> or 6 bicycles and one van --- I came to my senses (and acknowledged
> mortality) and sold both BWM bikes.
> Almost forgot the two boats.
>
> On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.
> >
> > With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Luther
Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D, CD, & 
TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast.


On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:28:10 -0500, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Those are not sufficient excuses! Three drivers, NO garage, 4 MBs, 5
> or 6 bicycles and one van --- I came to my senses (and acknowledged
> mortality) and sold both BWM bikes.
> Almost forgot the two boats.
>
> On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.
>>
>> With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:
>>
>



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
Luther:

Get back to me when you cross the threshold of Age 30, a wife and a couple
of kids (in college).

Don


On 7/11/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D,
> CD, & TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast.
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:28:10 -0500, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Those are not sufficient excuses! Three drivers, NO garage, 4 MBs, 5
> > or 6 bicycles and one van --- I came to my senses (and acknowledged
> > mortality) and sold both BWM bikes.
> > Almost forgot the two boats.
> >
> > On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.
> >>
> >> With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:
> >>
> >
>
>
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> '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Luther
You might not be here then. :D

Luther

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:38:02 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Luther:
>
> Get back to me when you cross the threshold of Age 30, a wife and a couple
> of kids (in college).
>
> Don
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
Perhaps.

On 7/11/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You might not be here then. :D
>
> Luther
>
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:38:02 -0500, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Luther:
> >
> > Get back to me when you cross the threshold of Age 30, a wife and a
> couple
> > of kids (in college).
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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> '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
> '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
> '82 300CD (166 kmi)
> '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
> '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread OK Don
Yup - I do the same ---

On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about this: I work for a non-profit ... in human services.
>
> Any history with their pay structures?   :-)
>

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Wonko the Sane
Come to think of it, you do. I am management. Want to join me in the food
stamp line?

On 7/11/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yup - I do the same ---
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread OK Don
My kids alternated between free and reduced lunches -- BTDT.

On 7/11/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Come to think of it, you do. I am management. Want to join me in the food
> stamp line?
>

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
Nicely encapsulated, Alex.

Even NEW VW diesels are suffering from the craze. Such a disprepancy
between the price of the gasser and the diesel.

We took a hit buying our high mileage 190D at 4300 bucks.

Your mention of a diesel accord struck me. Love it.

I tell you, we are in diesel territory here on Bainbridge Island, WA.
You can pretty much assume that when you see a set of VW headlights
(even beetle) that you will soon hear the accompanying mild klatta.
And often with the required biodiesel sticker.

And there are so many 123s that we don't even nod at eachother as we pass.

BUT, I, so far have the only 190 diesel that I have seen here. A fair
amount of 190Es though.

Brian

Alex wrote:
It's true, though.  I don't think you fellows in the rest of the
country understand quite how crazy the Mercedes diesel market is here
in the Pacific Northwest.  A few factors in combination---the
discovery of biofuels by the granola culture (no offense intended as
I'm kind of one myself), the old-car culture that already had a solid
presence (thanks to our mild climate and unsalted roads), and the fact
that there have always been more furrin than domestic cars on the West
Coast---have created a perfect storm for 123 desirability.  It's like
the tulip mania in 17th-century Holland.  Sell your 240D here while
you can and retire on the proceeds!

The upside, of course, is that for every boom there's a bust.  In a
couple of years when a wide selection of new cars designed to run on
ULSD are on the market, all the flower children will be trading their
300Ds for diesel Accords, and the former will be available dirt cheap.
 Sadly, I suspect many of them will be in dire condition and need a
lot of TLC.  Judging by the number of 123 wagons I see dragging ass
around town with blown SLS systems, many of the bio-crazy purchasers
of Benzes are out of their depth, with neither the will nor the cash
to take proper care of an old car.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-12 Thread Jeff Zedic
On 12/07/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D,
> CD, & TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast.
>


"We used to DREAM of living in a corridor!"

Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond

Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day.
I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same car) 
but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who owns it 
totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on speaking terms.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:30 -0500
From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.

With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:

Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic
requirement).
Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook --
 she
loves it.
My '77 W123 (my baby)
My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my "fun car."
My '72 Honda motorcycle.
One moped.
Seven bicycles.

Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if
 it is
a W123?

   
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Corridor
Bloody luxury, we used to live in a shoebox in the middle of the road. I'd 
give me right leg to be able to live in a corridor.

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> On 12/07/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D,
>> CD, & TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast.
>>
>
>
> "We used to DREAM of living in a corridor!"
>
> Jeff Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-12 Thread Levi Smith
So why don't you have it?  Wouldn't that mean you just steal it?

Levi

On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day.
> I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the same
> car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the lady who
> owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really on
> speaking terms.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:30 -0500
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Message-ID:
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>
> Point taken.  Allow me to rephrase.
>
> With a three car garage and three drivers, I have:
>
> Wife's Buick Regal, her car and what she likes. Frigid AC (her basic
> requirement).
> Daughter's Chevy Cavalier, bought and paid for out of her checkbook --
> she
> loves it.
> My '77 W123 (my baby)
> My '82 VW Quantum diesel, a true beater but 50 mpg, my "fun car."
> My '72 Honda motorcycle.
> One moped.
> Seven bicycles.
>
> Now, why would I want another vehicle on my insurance policy, even if
> it is
> a W123?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review

2007-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond

Assuming its still there (I haven't actually laid eyes on it in like 12 years) 
I dunno what kind of shape it'd be in.
The owner was the theater director when I was in highschool. It wasn't until I 
left that I realized what a controlling nutjob she really was...

So other than the possibility of getting a probably destroyed car I don't 
particularly want to see her..

-Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:00:49 -0400
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So why don't you have it?  Wouldn't that mean you just steal it?

Levi

On 7/12/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Man I'd like to find a diesel Quantum some day.
> I know where theres a diesel Dasher (which I think is basically the
 same
> car) but its been sitting for at least 10 years and the son of the
 lady who
> owns it totalled my parents cars a few years ago so we're not really
 on
> speaking terms.
>
> -Curt

   
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