Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I need a new licence.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 3:38 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Give me a brake.
>
> -D not a looser
>
> > On Mar 22, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > "implies"
> >
> > Your welcome
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 3/20/21 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the
> streets actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or
> torque wrench. It’s simply not so.
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Give me a brake.

-D not a looser

> On Mar 22, 2021, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "implies"
> 
> Your welcome
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/20/21 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the 
>> streets actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or 
>> torque wrench. It’s simply not so.
>> 
>> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"implies"

Your welcome

--FT

On 3/20/21 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
It’s simply not so.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Doesn't this sound like several people on this list?

RB

On 20/03/2021 4:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have lived 
there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the late 1990s. 
And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the foothills around 
Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers the climate 
significantly.

This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago to rile people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and from what my friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss off a neighbor who rats you out*or have all sorts of cars around your property in various states of 
disrepair*. Many developments in the area have HOAs whose CC go well beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.


The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
It’s simply not so.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And, if it sticks, pretty soon you wouldn't be able to buy parts unless 
you were a licenced garage.


RB


On 20/03/2021 7:17 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Perhaps but it still prohibits me from working on a friend’s car or a 
neighbor’s car or my mother’s car. Stupid liberals and their mentally deficient 
regulations.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

As a friend in the area says:

"This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening auto 
repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your own property, 
especially in your own garage where no one can see what you’re doing. The article 
is, as such articles often are, both overstated and out of date.”

It’s clickbait, folks.

-D


On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  
wrote:

CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
wet dream.

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Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Strange given that California was long considered the home of the car 
culture (for lack of a better description). When I was a younger lad 
reading Hot Rod and Car Craft, etc, California was where everything 
interesting was happening.


It is becoming a sad world!

RB

On 19/03/2021 8:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Wow

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repairs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUPz448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook




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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Exactly. The elites shitting on the disadvantaged, the poor and the 
undesirables whilst hypocritically erecting BLM signs in their yards. 

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Racist and elitist agenda against the working class people who are living 
> paycheck to paycheck or just slowing going deeper into debt.  The bottom rung 
> of the populace struggles to survive and the racist elites erect blocks 
> against their survival at every turn.
> 
> A person should be able to effect repairs upon their property and effects 
> without undue hinderance by the ruling class and Karens.  IF you plan on 
> curtailing the lower class from seeking continued survival, just go out and 
> kill them outright and be open about the repression.  Being poor does not 
> look pretty, but there are more people groveling at the bottom of the pile 
> than those who can afford to visit the dealership or pay for a repair that 
> could and should be able to be done at home.
> 
> My home may have been unsightly when I was basking in multiple bottom feeder 
> Benz that were glad to be roadworthy by my own wrenching.  Had I been 
> required to/mandated they be professionally service, there is no way I could 
> have kept any of them driving or available for another owner to love and 
> service them.
> 
> A pox upon California, may it be swallowed by the sea and its populace of 
> elitist be consumed by plague.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>> like junkyards.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Seattle  has become a backwashed P trap of California.   Same lack of laws and 
mindless sheeple trudging toward the slaughter.  The elite take no care of the 
“mandates” though they dutifully muzzle while seen in public.  Today, while 
power washing the vast estate, I saw at least 40 high end cars and must have 
been 100 people of all ages from toddlers to nonagenarians congregate at a 
neighbors home.  The idiot Goobernator and his minions declaim that only 10 
blood relatives in their genetic bubble are allowed to gather.  Not being a 
Karen, I just kept on with my task and sniggered at the hypocrisy.


Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
> like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
> a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
> pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
> learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
> other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and homeless
> communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
> would consider normal law enforcement.  
> This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
> Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
> when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country, now
> they are in the bottom two or three.  
> CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
> that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
> that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
> recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
> bailout) tells that story..

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Clay via Mercedes]

Racist and elitist agenda against the working class people who are living 
paycheck to paycheck or just slowing going deeper into debt.  The bottom rung 
of the populace struggles to survive and the racist elites erect blocks against 
their survival at every turn.

A person should be able to effect repairs upon their property and effects 
without undue hinderance by the ruling class and Karens.  IF you plan on 
curtailing the lower class from seeking continued survival, just go out and 
kill them outright and be open about the repression.  Being poor does not look 
pretty, but there are more people groveling at the bottom of the pile than 
those who can afford to visit the dealership or pay for a repair that could and 
should be able to be done at home.

My home may have been unsightly when I was basking in multiple bottom feeder 
Benz that were glad to be roadworthy by my own wrenching.  Had I been required 
to/mandated they be professionally service, there is no way I could have kept 
any of them driving or available for another owner to love and service them.

A pox upon California, may it be swallowed by the sea and its populace of 
elitist be consumed by plague.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 7:38 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The quoted ordinance appears to be aimed at repair facilities in areas 
not zoned for repair facilities, not DIY:


Minor adjustments, service, and repairs to automobiles or other 
passenger vehicles. Examples include but are not limited to: radiator, 
transmission, muffler, and brake repair, lubricant shops, diagnosis and 
tune-up, smog inspection, auto glass repair and installation, automotive 
seat covers, and re-upholstery, tire sales and service, and car washes. 
Shall not include body and engine work as defined in “Major Automobile 
Repair.” (See Section 7.3 of the Zoning Code).


And why do people keep posting links with Goolag or Failbook tracking 
crap in them? Most of the time the crap is longer than the link itself.

The article is here:
https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repairs-illegal/

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If I recall correctly, estimated 2021 federal tax receipts were $3.5T and
spending was $8T (before latest $1.9T "COVID relief", I think).  With this
kind of "creative accounting" I would not put much stock on any state's
received vs paid numbers.

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On 2021-03-20 13:02, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments 
> now, like most other states:

With last week's new legislation, I don't think anybody can claim to be net
even. MI, with our ten million residents, got IIRC ten billion in direct aid
to governments, on top of $1400 x ten mil ($14B) to the residents
themselves. CA and NY's government aid packages were truly huge, especially
to the SanFran area.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-03-20 13:02, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments now,
like most other states:


With last week's new legislation, I don't think anybody can claim to be 
net even. MI, with our ten million residents, got IIRC ten billion in 
direct aid to governments, on top of $1400 x ten mil ($14B) to the 
residents themselves. CA and NY's government aid packages were truly 
huge, especially to the SanFran area.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

t; >>>> Max
> >>>> Charleston SC
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> As a friend in the area says:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
> >>>> opening
> >>>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on
> your
> >>>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> >>>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both
> overstated
> >>>>> and out of date.”
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -D
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> >>>>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> >>>>> schools,
> >>>>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can
> screw
> >>>> up
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>> wet dream.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> >>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
> >>>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
> >>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So if you have A neighbor that hates you and decides to report you to the 
authorities because you’re fixing your car in your garage, you get penalized. 
There are a lot of asshole neighbors ask me how I know. That is the problem 
with ordinances like these and HOAs  etc.

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have lived 
> there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the late 
> 1990s. And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the 
> foothills around Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers 
> the climate significantly.
> 
> This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago to 
> rile people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and from 
> what my friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss off a 
> neighbor who rats you out or have all sorts of cars around your property in 
> various states of disrepair. Many developments in the area have HOAs whose 
> CC go well beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.
> 
> The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
> actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
> It’s simply not so.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover 
>> number of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned 
>> vehicles.  The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the 
>> existing laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure 
>> a way to enforce the existing ones!
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>>> like junkyards.
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>>>> this?
>>>> 
>>>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>>>> private home?
>>>> -
>>>> Max
>>>> Charleston SC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As a friend in the area says:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>>>> opening
>>>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>>>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>>>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>>>>> and out of date.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>>>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>>>>> schools,

Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For what it’s worth, I know Sacramento well, having friends that have lived 
there for decades, and seriously considered relocating there in the late 1990s. 
And yes, I would live there. More likely, I would live in the foothills around 
Auburn, as it’s an easy commute and the elevation tempers the climate 
significantly.

This is, for all intents and purposes, a story posted a year or two ago to rile 
people up and gain clicks. The ordinance passed some time ago and from what my 
friends tell me, it’s not actively enforced unless you p*ss off a neighbor who 
rats you out or have all sorts of cars around your property in various states 
of disrepair. Many developments in the area have HOAs whose CC go well 
beyond what the city’s ordinance targets.

The article infers that there are code enforcement people roaming the streets 
actively busting residents for the possession of rattle gun or torque wrench. 
It’s simply not so.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover number 
> of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned 
> vehicles.  The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the 
> existing laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure a 
> way to enforce the existing ones!
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
>> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
>> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
>> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
>> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
>> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
>> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
>> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
>> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
>> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
>> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
>> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
>> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
>> like junkyards.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>>> private home?
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As a friend in the area says:
>>>> 
>>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>>> opening
>>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>>>> and out of date.”
>>>> 
>>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>>>> schools,
>>>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
>>> up
>>>> a
>>>>> wet dream.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://www.odometer.com/car-ca

Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

In most cities/towns there are already zoning laws in place that cover number 
of vehicles, unlicensed vehicles, vehicles on blocks and/or abandoned vehicles. 
 The difficulty is assigning manpower to follow up and enforce the existing 
laws. Instead of wasting time writing new laws they need to figure a way to 
enforce the existing ones!


Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 20, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
> millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
> on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
> of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
> places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
> out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
> nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
> you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
> potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
> readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
> pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
> trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
> stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
> like junkyards.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
>> this?
>> 
>> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
>> private home?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As a friend in the area says:
>>> 
>>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
>> opening
>>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>>> and out of date.”
>>> 
>>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>>> schools,
>>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
>> up
>>> a
>>>> wet dream.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:

> Perhaps but it still prohibits me from working on a friend’s car or a
> neighbor’s car or my mother’s car. Stupid liberals and their mentally
> deficient regulations.

Honestly, that's really for the best. I learned the hard way not to work
on cars I don't own. Same with computers. It becomes expected. I'm not
the free help desk. "No good deed goes unpunished."

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Seems like we pull our weight. We are net even on federal payments now,
like most other states:


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-no-longer-pays-more-to-Washington-than-15243861.php


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021, 10:15 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
> like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
> a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
> pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
> learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
> other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and
> homeless
> communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
> would consider normal law enforcement.
> This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
> Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
> when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country,
> now
> they are in the bottom two or three.
> CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
> that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
> that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
> recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
> bailout) tells that story..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 9:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>
> Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
> follow?
>
> Get this:
>
> "Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
> *Grassroots
> Motorsports*
> <
> https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-illegal-do-major-repairs-you
> r-car-your-garage-s/155378/page1/
> <https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-illegal-do-major-repairs-your-car-your-garage-s/155378/page1/>
> >
> forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.
>
> "I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
> request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
> to complain," he wrote."
>
> So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
> challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
> HEARING!
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto
> > -repairs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbD
> > IoYRje8BsEUPz448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

California is three different worlds.  There is the wealthy coastal strip
like Palo Alto, Santa Barbara, etc., there are the big cities, and there is
a rural interior.  Laws are enforced selectively.  If you can't (or won't)
pay the fines then administrative laws don't apply; enforcement agencies
learned not to waste their time.  In the biggest cities property crime (and
other) laws are not enforced, literally.  Crimes within illegal and homeless
communities get little attention.  Only wealthy and gated areas get what we
would consider normal law enforcement.  
This is not an accident.  Between stupid and arrogant one-party control and
Soros backed DAs, CA has changed, and not in a good way.  As one example:
when I moved there in 1976 CA had the top public schools in the country, now
they are in the bottom two or three.  
CA will get a big bail-out in the $1.9T (so-called) COVID relief bill but
that won't last long.  And that $1.9T is coming from you and me and anyone
that owns dollars (in the bank, in retirement accounts, bonds, etc).  The
recently-posted FRED chart on M1 money supply (which was before this
bailout) tells that story..

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 9:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
follow?

Get this:

"Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
*Grassroots
Motorsports*
<https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/it-illegal-do-major-repairs-you
r-car-your-garage-s/155378/page1/>
forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.

"I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
to complain," he wrote."

So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
HEARING!


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto
> -repairs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbD
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

OK, not to be pedantic, but it goes several layers deeper than illegal
immigrants. It is interesting. The census shows 300K hispanic or latino in
Sacramento, of 2M. There are about 60,000 undocumented immigrants in
Sacramento as of 2017 (Pew estimate). Any of their kids who are born here
are Americans, same as me. I should also say that cars on blocks in the
driveway is hardly limited to hispanics...people in glass houses and all
that.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:26 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > Many are pretty low income, working under the table, living many people
> per house,
>
> "Guest" workers.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Many are pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per 
> house,

"Guest" workers.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What does this have to do with me? I’m missing the point. And for the record I 
lived in California at one time.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
> this?
> 
> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
> private home?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As a friend in the area says:
>> 
>> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening
>> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
>> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
>> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
>> and out of date.”
>> 
>> It’s clickbait, folks.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
>> schools,
>>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up
>> a
>>> wet dream.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>>> 
>> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Max I think you're highlighting the issue. Basically out here there are
millions of people who will repair their cars in their driveways for weeks
on end and without paying any business taxes for operating a business out
of their homes if they are fixing other people's cars for money. Lots of
places have zoning laws prohibiting this sort of thing. The housing density
out here can also be pretty high, so if your neighbor has three old
nonfunctional cars in his driveway and it is a foot away from your lawn,
you might want them out of there also. Anyway I think the problem is
potentially far larger out here than anyone in your part of the country can
readily imagine. Sacramento area has a couple million people. Many are
pretty low income, working under the table, living many people per house,
trying to keep their overhead as low as possible, e.g. fixing their own
stuff. I think it is designed to keep entire neighborhoods from looking
like junkyards.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:45 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
> this?
>
> What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
> private home?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > As a friend in the area says:
> >
> > "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from
> opening
> > auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
> > own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> > you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
> > and out of date.”
> >
> > It’s clickbait, folks.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> > > fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> > schools,
> > > etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw
> up
> > a
> > > wet dream.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List ;
> > davesl...@okiebenz.com
> > > Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan, would you move there?  Would you like to live someplace with laws like
this?

What in the world is wrong with someone doing major auto repairs in a
private home?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> As a friend in the area says:
>
> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening
> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your
> own property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what
> you’re doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated
> and out of date.”
>
> It’s clickbait, folks.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> > fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great
> schools,
> > etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up
> a
> > wet dream.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
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> > Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Insanity!  And California is held up as a model for the rest of the US to
follow?

Get this:

"Many are wondering how these laws will be enforced. One member of the
*Grassroots
Motorsports*

forum claims he has already been fined $430 for violating the code.

"I have not been left alone, they levied a $430 fine yesterday. You can
request a hearing to review the code enforcement decision, which costs $700
to complain," he wrote."

So if you get a fine for breaking this draconian law, and you want to
challenge this in court, YOU NEED TO PAY MORE THAN THE FINE TO GET A COURT
HEARING!


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Max
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Perhaps but it still prohibits me from working on a friend’s car or a 
neighbor’s car or my mother’s car. Stupid liberals and their mentally deficient 
regulations.

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> On Mar 20, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As a friend in the area says:
> 
> "This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening 
> auto repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your own 
> property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what you’re 
> doing. The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated and out of 
> date.”
> 
> It’s clickbait, folks.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
>> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
>> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
>> wet dream.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
>> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
>> z448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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As a friend in the area says:

"This law has been around since 2019, intended to keep people from opening auto 
repair shops in private homes. You can still do auto repairs on your own 
property, especially in your own garage where no one can see what you’re doing. 
The article is, as such articles often are, both overstated and out of date.”

It’s clickbait, folks.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2021, at 2:35 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
> fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
> etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
> wet dream.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; davesl...@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?
> 
> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repai
> rs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUP
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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CA WAS a wonderful place to live.  Great climate, beautiful scenery,
fantastic restaurants, no bugs, good roads, plenty of jobs, great schools,
etc.  Just shows to go ya that arrogant leftist politicians can screw up a
wet dream.

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 9:39 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Why would anyone vote for this? And Sacramento is a shithole anyway- as if this 
is their problem.

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> On Mar 19, 2021, at 9:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
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> All the mechanics will start moving there -- captive audience sort of thing.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:41 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> Wow
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.odometer.com/car-care/2561937/sacramento-ca-makes-diy-auto-repairs-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR2MDvePbK9PXGR4xsl6bwDSpIp74hQoh7bGwzJIdbDIoYRje8BsEUPz448#.YFU4-2MUkso.facebook
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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All the mechanics will start moving there -- captive audience sort of thing.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 8:41 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Wow
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 9:39 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why would anybody want to live in CA?

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Wow

Dwight Giles Jr.
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