Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
That's the idea. I find when I haven't welded for awhile I need more light. Eventually if I'm welding a lot with too much light my eyes will get tired so I dial it darker. Earlier this year I cut down the bucket on my garden tractor loader, it was 42" wide, I want it 36" so it'll fit in the compost bin. That was a lot of fairly mindless welding where I didn't have to see too well. I set the helmet fairly dark for that. Mine has a setting for speed of darkening, I always put that on the fastest setting. My older helmet had battery failure, the darkening still worked but it was delayed. I got flashed a couple times which is not great but probably not permanently damaging. I figured out how to rig it to run on AAA batteries instead of button cells and used it another 5 or 6 years. Eventually the darkening circuit slowed so badly I just couldn't use it any more and I replaced it. -Curt On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 10:46:22 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Yes, it is adjustable. If I understand correctly, the lens block UV regardless of setting, which is the dangerous light. So it's safe to dial the darkness back until you can see adequately? Allan On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, at 14:51, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Most are somewhat adjustable. Look for a knob or switch that will change > the degree of darkness. > > Randy > > > On 22/08/2022 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at >> Harbor Freight. >> >> It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is >> the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. >> >> Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer >> adequate eye protection? >> >> Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my >> garage which is not brightly lit. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
Hell, clear polycarbonate safety glasses block 99% of UV light. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 23, 2022 9:46 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet Yes, it is adjustable. If I understand correctly, the lens block UV regardless of setting, which is the dangerous light. So it's safe to dial the darkness back until you can see adequately? Allan On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, at 14:51, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Most are somewhat adjustable. Look for a knob or switch that will change > the degree of darkness. > > Randy > > > On 22/08/2022 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at >> Harbor Freight. >> >> It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is >> the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. >> >> Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer >> adequate eye protection? >> >> Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my >> garage which is not brightly lit. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
Yes, it is adjustable. If I understand correctly, the lens block UV regardless of setting, which is the dangerous light. So it's safe to dial the darkness back until you can see adequately? Allan On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, at 14:51, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Most are somewhat adjustable. Look for a knob or switch that will change > the degree of darkness. > > Randy > > > On 22/08/2022 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at >> Harbor Freight. >> >> It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is >> the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. >> >> Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer >> adequate eye protection? >> >> Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my >> garage which is not brightly lit. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
I have a cheapo horror fright one too and it’s fine for MIG but for TIG you really need to see the weld pool and the tungsten electrode distance from the puddle. You need a good helmet. Kari got me the optrel panoramaxx (which is the Mercedes of welding helmets) last Christmas. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2022, at 2:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've had 2 auto darkening helmets, I don't know where the first one came > from, it was a gift from my in-laws. The replacement is from HF. Both are > pretty good with adjustable darkness levels using a dial on the side. MUCH > better than a conventional helmet anyway. > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 12:08:44 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > The ability to lay down a good weld [insert pretty weld] is a factor of > coordination of hand/eye control you see the color change of the weld > puddle and make minute hand movements to control the size and direction of > the liquid metal, the filler rod material, arc distance [which controls > heat and penetration]. > The bottom line is, you have to first see what is happening, then "auto > correct" the weld area as necessary [without having to think about it] > based on that hand / eye / skill coordination. > Thus, spend the money to get the best helmet, with the best lense, to get > the best weld. You will ultimately be glad you spent the money. [The wifes > reaction may not match your enthusiasm]. > >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:45 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I use a small bright light to illuminate the work area. If you are TIG >> welding you really need to see what you’re doing. Either illuminate the >> area and/ or get a high quality helmet. Optrel is what I use. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got >> it at Harbor Freight. >>> >>> It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that >> is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. >>> >>> Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer >> adequate eye protection? >>> >>> Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in >> my garage which is not brightly lit. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
I've had 2 auto darkening helmets, I don't know where the first one came from, it was a gift from my in-laws. The replacement is from HF. Both are pretty good with adjustable darkness levels using a dial on the side. MUCH better than a conventional helmet anyway. -Curt On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 12:08:44 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The ability to lay down a good weld [insert pretty weld] is a factor of coordination of hand/eye control you see the color change of the weld puddle and make minute hand movements to control the size and direction of the liquid metal, the filler rod material, arc distance [which controls heat and penetration]. The bottom line is, you have to first see what is happening, then "auto correct" the weld area as necessary [without having to think about it] based on that hand / eye / skill coordination. Thus, spend the money to get the best helmet, with the best lense, to get the best weld. You will ultimately be glad you spent the money. [The wifes reaction may not match your enthusiasm]. On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:45 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I use a small bright light to illuminate the work area. If you are TIG > welding you really need to see what you’re doing. Either illuminate the > area and/ or get a high quality helmet. Optrel is what I use. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got > it at Harbor Freight. > > > > It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that > is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. > > > > Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer > adequate eye protection? > > > > Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in > my garage which is not brightly lit. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
The ability to lay down a good weld [insert pretty weld] is a factor of coordination of hand/eye control you see the color change of the weld puddle and make minute hand movements to control the size and direction of the liquid metal, the filler rod material, arc distance [which controls heat and penetration]. The bottom line is, you have to first see what is happening, then "auto correct" the weld area as necessary [without having to think about it] based on that hand / eye / skill coordination. Thus, spend the money to get the best helmet, with the best lense, to get the best weld. You will ultimately be glad you spent the money. [The wifes reaction may not match your enthusiasm]. On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:45 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I use a small bright light to illuminate the work area. If you are TIG > welding you really need to see what you’re doing. Either illuminate the > area and/ or get a high quality helmet. Optrel is what I use. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got > it at Harbor Freight. > > > > It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that > is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. > > > > Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer > adequate eye protection? > > > > Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in > my garage which is not brightly lit. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
I use a small bright light to illuminate the work area. If you are TIG welding you really need to see what you’re doing. Either illuminate the area and/ or get a high quality helmet. Optrel is what I use. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at > Harbor Freight. > > It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is > the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. > > Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer > adequate eye protection? > > Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my > garage which is not brightly lit. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
I bought a pair of this model over 7 years ago - still going strong. Fully adjustable. I've replaced the batteries once. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XIJNBP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 3:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Inexpensive and harbor freight are key words here. > > I have a yes welder helmet I got off Amazon for maybe $80, it works very > well and has various adjustments > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got > it at Harbor Freight. > > > > It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that > is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. > > > > Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer > adequate eye protection? > > > > Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in > my garage which is not brightly lit. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
> I need to get a longer cord on my welder so I can get it out into the > driveway. That's the main thing keeping me in the garage. I made a 50A extension cord, with the same triplex outlet set on it as is mounted inside my garage doorways. I can put anything out there now. Welder, camper, range, genset... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, at 15:59, Jim Cathey wrote: >> I'm welding in my garage which is not brightly lit. > > I would never, ever do that. Not of the construction, or other > contents, is at all flammable. > As mine is. Point taken, but it's a fairly open area, concrete floor, and I weld on a metal table. I need to get a longer cord on my welder so I can get it out into the driveway. That's the main thing keeping me in the garage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
>> I'm welding in my garage which is not brightly lit. >I would never, ever do that. Not if the construction, or other contents, is at >all flammable. As mine is. That would be why I bought an induction heater for bolts and nuts, instead of buying an oxy acetalyne set. Cherry red is cherry red. No matter how it gets there. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PCMRRFZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
> Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? Bright sun helps. > I'm welding in my garage which is not brightly lit. I would never, ever do that. Not of the construction, or other contents, is at all flammable. As mine is. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
Inexpensive and harbor freight are key words here. I have a yes welder helmet I got off Amazon for maybe $80, it works very well and has various adjustments --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 22, 2022, at 3:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at > Harbor Freight. > > It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is > the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. > > Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer > adequate eye protection? > > Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my > garage which is not brightly lit. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
Most are somewhat adjustable. Look for a knob or switch that will change the degree of darkness. Randy On 22/08/2022 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at Harbor Freight. It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer adequate eye protection? Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my garage which is not brightly lit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] auto-darkening welding helmet
I have an inexpensive auto-darkening welding helmet. Pretty sure I got it at Harbor Freight. It works OK but when it darkens all I can see is the point of light that is the arc. I can't see a "puddle" or really even what I am welding. Is this normal or would a better helmet not get so dark but still offer adequate eye protection? Or does welding in the sunlight or bright lighting help? I'm welding in my garage which is not brightly lit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
