Re: [MBZ] car hacking
On 26/08/2015 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the '85, for that matter. They could just put your plate numbers into the police database to say there were outstanding warrants. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
My advise is to monkey with the vacuum pump system and than you would loose you're break petal write than and their --R On 8/26/15 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the '85, for that matter. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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DIabolical! Now if you could only harness that brilliance for GOOD rather than EVIL. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/08/2015 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the '85, for that matter. They could just put your plate numbers into the police database to say there were outstanding warrants. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would love to find someone clever enough to hack my 83 300TD - or the '85, for that matter. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's because the FBI and Harris requires that they sign a non-disclosure agreement. We had a big dust-up down here recently where the ACLU filed an FOIA request over one of these with the local prosecutor and Federal marshals showed up at the prosecutor's office and took the case over, effectively thwarting the FOIA. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on details. --R On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml Dan why am I not surprised Man Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle. Just like all the other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever. I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF. They look into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls. Found out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time). Now the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them. I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too. --R On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
That's because the FBI and Harris requires that they sign a non-disclosure agreement. We had a big dust-up down here recently where the ACLU filed an FOIA request over one of these with the local prosecutor and Federal marshals showed up at the prosecutor's office and took the case over, effectively thwarting the FOIA. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on details. --R On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml Dan why am I not surprised Man Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle. Just like all the other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever. I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF. They look into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls. Found out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time). Now the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them. I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too. --R On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle. Just like all the other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever. I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF. They look into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls. Found out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time). Now the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them. I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too. --R On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml Dan why am I not surprised Man Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle. Just like all the other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever. I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF. They look into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls. Found out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time). Now the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them. I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too. --R On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Somewhere today, there is a career car thief exploiting this principle to gain instant entry to a new car worth thousands of dollars. If you doubt it, look for the statistics on number of cars stolen and dismantled each year. It is a huge industry. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, and apparently the various locals are hiding the fact that they have them though the info is subject to FOIA, they ignore any requests on details. --R On 8/26/15 11:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You mean that law enforcement will be using hardware to track our whereabouts? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150823/23323932038/police-regularly-use-stingrays-without-warrant-to-find-petty-criminals-then-try-to-hide-that-fact.shtml Dan why am I not surprised Man Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Once done, some Chinese outfit will be selling the equipment for cheepcheep, then it becomes another running battle. Just like all the other cracks, hacks, cloners, and whatever else to circumvent or get into various systems -- the electronic keys are big now, garage door openers, whatever. I recall some years ago getting a cell phone bill (my work phone) for nearly $2k, calls all over the world, most to Mexico, from all over the US. I call the cell phone co, whoever it was, and ask WTF. They look into it, determine my (analog at the time) phone had been cloned and someone made clones and were probably selling time to make calls. Found out a few others at the company had the same thing done, turns out someone was probably sitting at a traffic light not far from the office, sniffing phones while people sat in the traffic making calls or pinging the towers or whatever. Equipment was fairly cheap even then (though probably not from China at that time). Now the cops have these devices that can spoof phones, acting like a cell node, and collect all kinds of stuff from them. I guess if you have a coupla $k you could buy one too. --R On 8/26/15 8:11 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: It takes a huge amount of time and knowledge to pull something like this off. Jaime On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Or an ex-spouse bent on revenge, or the neighborhood punk getting some laughs. People can and will be cruel. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 25, 2015 10:58:08 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
There is something like a mechanical switch, you know. We lived with them for an eternity before we had to digitize everything. Peter For you and me, yes, but the crop of young sheeple have been trained to not know how to flip a switch. TO them everything is supposed to be done for you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its absurd that the entertainment center is part of the CAN bus, that's a clear security violation from the start. As long as that's the case the system will never be secure. Curt That was my initial thought too, but it is also used for GPS, etc, so has to have the connectivity to allow the GPS, Onstar etc to work. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
Its absurd that the entertainment center is part of the CAN bus, that's a clear security violation from the start. As long as that's the case the system will never be secure. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm just saying that if the entertainment center is a full member of the CAN bus it will always be an entry point for hackers. As long as theres an entry point there will always be hacks. Any network open to the internet will be hacked at some point, this has already been pretty well proven. The entertainment center knows when the car is on because it has power. It can know where it is because of its own GPS or the GPS in your phone and it can have its own buttons and spot in the cluster on a bus other than the one responsible for the rest of the car. This is an issue of basic safety. If you look at fire alarm systems NO PART of a commercial fire alarm may touch ANY other system in the building (or at least that was true when I stopped being a Fire Alarm Videographer in 2001. It was a basic safety precaution... -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] car hacking Curt, how do you expect the entertainment system to known when the car is on, where it is, display messages in the instrument cluster, and respond to button presses if it's not connected to a CAN bus? Let's not loose focus on where the issues were here... No need to attack basic and proven technologies. Jaime On Tuesday, August 25, 2015, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its absurd that the entertainment center is part of the CAN bus, that's a clear security violation from the start. As long as that's the case the system will never be secure. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:52:56 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( It could be used by Mafia hit men ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Aug 23, 2015 11:51 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is quite fascinating http://hackaday.com/2015/08/22/how-those-hacker-took-complete-control-of-that-jeep In a similar vein, a rollup of the automotive hacking at the last security convention: . http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/highway-to-hack-why-were-just-at-the-beginning-of-the-auto-hacking-era/ And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car hacking
On Aug 23, 2015 11:51 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is quite fascinating http://hackaday.com/2015/08/22/how-those-hacker-took-complete-control-of-that-jeep In a similar vein, a rollup of the automotive hacking at the last security convention: . http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/highway-to-hack-why-were-just-at-the-beginning-of-the-auto-hacking-era/ And here is where I eat the crow, I clearly underestimated how poorly the interconnected software could be implemented by the manufacturers. I still don't see how car hacking can make money on any kind of scale, but if it's easy then people will just do it for fun. :( Best, Tim MORE reasons to love our 240Ds, 300D, 300SDs and 300SDLs I dare you to try to take electronic control of my 240D! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] car hacking
This is quite fascinating http://hackaday.com/2015/08/22/how-those-hacker-took-complete-control-of-that-jeep --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
