Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Dan P. Wrote:

That being said, my S420 consistently gets better mileage than the S500,
by at least 1-2 mpg. And the S500 is a coupe versus the S420 being a sedan.
I assume there is a difference in curb weight between the two. The average
fuel mileage on the S420 is 19.2 mpg, while the S500 is 17.1 mpg. The
records for the S420 are only from September of this year, while the S500
records are close to two year total.

I keep very detailed fuel records, so I have a high level of confidence in
my statements. I would add that both cars are in the same condition and are
very close in mileage (267k) although the S420 is three years newer than
the S500. Not sure how, if at all, that would come into play.


Could it be something as simple as the tires on the 420? Are they similar
tires? Less rolling resistance on the 420?

Don Snook
2000 BMW 740iL 212K
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
1992 Ford F-150 146K
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting that you would suggest that, however, the S500 has narrower aspect 
tires on it.

And welcome back!  Do you have the BMW back, or is your signature out of date?

Dan


 On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dan P. Wrote:
 
 That being said, my S420 consistently gets better mileage than the S500,
 by at least 1-2 mpg. And the S500 is a coupe versus the S420 being a sedan.
 I assume there is a difference in curb weight between the two. The average
 fuel mileage on the S420 is 19.2 mpg, while the S500 is 17.1 mpg. The
 records for the S420 are only from September of this year, while the S500
 records are close to two year total.
 
 I keep very detailed fuel records, so I have a high level of confidence in
 my statements. I would add that both cars are in the same condition and are
 very close in mileage (267k) although the S420 is three years newer than
 the S500. Not sure how, if at all, that would come into play.
 
 
 Could it be something as simple as the tires on the 420? Are they similar
 tires? Less rolling resistance on the 420?
 
 Don Snook
 2000 BMW 740iL 212K
 2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
 1992 Ford F-150 146K
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have to offer a correction: the S420 has the same drivetrain as the S500. I 
was misinformed.

That being said, my S420 consistently gets better mileage than the S500, by at 
least 1-2 mpg. And the S500 is a coupe versus the S420 being a sedan. I assume 
there is a difference in curb weight between the two. The average fuel mileage 
on the S420 is 19.2 mpg, while the S500 is 17.1 mpg. The records for the S420 
are only from September of this year, while the S500 records are close to two 
year total.

I keep very detailed fuel records, so I have a high level of confidence in my 
statements. I would add that both cars are in the same condition and are very 
close in mileage (267k) although the S420 is three years newer than the S500. 
Not sure how, if at all, that would come into play.

Dan

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 On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The s500 is rated 1mpg less city than the 420, same highway at 20. Never saw 
 the need for a 420 when you can have a lot more car in a 500 and get 
 basically the same mileage.
 
 Sent from my iPhone.

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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What year is the 500? The last couple of years of 140 seems to get slightly 
better than the older ones, especially when going from distributor to cool 
packs for some reason 

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 On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have to offer a correction: the S420 has the same drivetrain as the S500. I 
 was misinformed.
 
 That being said, my S420 consistently gets better mileage than the S500, by 
 at least 1-2 mpg. And the S500 is a coupe versus the S420 being a sedan. I 
 assume there is a difference in curb weight between the two. The average fuel 
 mileage on the S420 is 19.2 mpg, while the S500 is 17.1 mpg. The records for 
 the S420 are only from September of this year, while the S500 records are 
 close to two year total.
 
 I keep very detailed fuel records, so I have a high level of confidence in my 
 statements. I would add that both cars are in the same condition and are very 
 close in mileage (267k) although the S420 is three years newer than the S500. 
 Not sure how, if at all, that would come into play.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The s500 is rated 1mpg less city than the 420, same highway at 20. Never saw 
 the need for a 420 when you can have a lot more car in a 500 and get 
 basically the same mileage.
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The S500 is a 95 with conventional ignition. The S420 is a 98 with electronic 
ignition.

I find it difficult to believe that the different ignition systems would make 
that much difference.

Dan


 On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What year is the 500? The last couple of years of 140 seems to get slightly 
 better than the older ones, especially when going from distributor to cool 
 packs for some reason 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 4, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have to offer a correction: the S420 has the same drivetrain as the S500. 
 I was misinformed.
 
 That being said, my S420 consistently gets better mileage than the S500, by 
 at least 1-2 mpg. And the S500 is a coupe versus the S420 being a sedan. I 
 assume there is a difference in curb weight between the two. The average 
 fuel mileage on the S420 is 19.2 mpg, while the S500 is 17.1 mpg. The 
 records for the S420 are only from September of this year, while the S500 
 records are close to two year total.
 
 I keep very detailed fuel records, so I have a high level of confidence in 
 my statements. I would add that both cars are in the same condition and are 
 very close in mileage (267k) although the S420 is three years newer than the 
 S500. Not sure how, if at all, that would come into play.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The s500 is rated 1mpg less city than the 420, same highway at 20. Never 
 saw the need for a 420 when you can have a lot more car in a 500 and get 
 basically the same mileage.
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
S500s are pretty common, but S420s are not.

A lot of S500 beaters, although you do see the occasional diamond in the rough.

There is a guy over in Clearwater who has been trying to sell a mid 90s S500 
sedan with low miles, service records, ICE COLD air, etc., for something like 
$1500.  Only problem is the front passenger door is caved in. No other obvious 
damage than the door skin.

Looks like a fairly easy fix with either a new door skin or door. I've been 
tempted, but my driveway is full and I have a tuition payment for the youngest 
coming up in January

I like the S420 because you get nearly all the amenities of an S500 with better 
gearing that gives you more economical operation. I average 20 mpg with mine in 
a mixed city/highway cycle.

Dan

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 On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Is there a shortage of 140s in Florida or something?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m not going to challenge this, but I’ve seen the “I have a standing offer 
 of $ for this, so if you don’t offer me more I have a plan B so many 
 times it’s become tiresome.
 
 I was trying to buy an S420 off a guy in Johnson City, TN a few months ago 
 and he kept pulling this line.  The standing offer kept getting smaller and 
 smaller.  He also had someone who would trade him a late model Subaru for 
 it, too, but that never seemed to materialize.
 
 He sold it nearly two months later, but I don’t know the selling price, nor 
 do I care.  I made him a fair offer and he just wanted to jerk me around 
 with all of his offers and trades that never happened.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 99 percent of the the time sellers are lying when they brag about a
 standing offer for more than I am willing to pay..
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

He was Johnsoning you around

--R


On 11/2/14 9:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I was trying to buy an S420 off a guy in Johnson City, TN a few months ago and 
he kept pulling this line.  The standing offer kept getting smaller and 
smaller.  He also had someone who would trade him a late model Subaru for it, 
too, but that never seemed to materialize.

He sold it nearly two months later, but I don’t know the selling price, nor do 
I care.  I made him a fair offer and he just wanted to jerk me around with all 
of his offers and trades that never happened.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The s500 is rated 1mpg less city than the 420, same highway at 20. Never saw 
the need for a 420 when you can have a lot more car in a 500 and get basically 
the same mileage.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 S500s are pretty common, but S420s are not.
 
 A lot of S500 beaters, although you do see the occasional diamond in the 
 rough.
 
 There is a guy over in Clearwater who has been trying to sell a mid 90s S500 
 sedan with low miles, service records, ICE COLD air, etc., for something like 
 $1500.  Only problem is the front passenger door is caved in. No other 
 obvious damage than the door skin.
 
 Looks like a fairly easy fix with either a new door skin or door. I've been 
 tempted, but my driveway is full and I have a tuition payment for the 
 youngest coming up in January
 
 I like the S420 because you get nearly all the amenities of an S500 with 
 better gearing that gives you more economical operation. I average 20 mpg 
 with mine in a mixed city/highway cycle.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 10:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Is there a shortage of 140s in Florida or something?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m not going to challenge this, but I’ve seen the “I have a standing offer 
 of $ for this, so if you don’t offer me more I have a plan B so many 
 times it’s become tiresome.
 
 I was trying to buy an S420 off a guy in Johnson City, TN a few months ago 
 and he kept pulling this line.  The standing offer kept getting smaller and 
 smaller.  He also had someone who would trade him a late model Subaru for 
 it, too, but that never seemed to materialize.
 
 He sold it nearly two months later, but I don’t know the selling price, nor 
 do I care.  I made him a fair offer and he just wanted to jerk me around 
 with all of his offers and trades that never happened.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 99 percent of the the time sellers are lying when they brag about a
 standing offer for more than I am willing to pay..
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Sadly I think it probably is a scam. I can't think of any way someone is
making money buying W123s at $2K and shipping them overseas. They just
aren't worth it. A W123 with rust and non-working AC is a sub $1,000 car
I think. Sorry to say, because I have one too.

Allan


On Sun, Nov 2, 2014, at 05:49 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
 I cannot wait much longer so I am selling it to the best offer in the
 next week. I reduced the asking price to $2,500 and was offered $2,000
 last week. The offer came from a buyer who said he ships these
 turbodiesel vehicles overseas. He came to look at the vehicle so it's
 doesn't appear to be a scam. One last time I put it on the list at the
 new price.


 If the offers fall through I will find a worthy charity and get a tax
 deduction.


 Bob


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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes
Thanks Allan you are probably right.  I would rather see the old girl go to a 
good charity anyway!  I will sell the collection of filters and extra parts on 
Ebay.



-Original Message-
From: Allan Streib via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel 
w/202K - Westchester County New York



Sadly I think it probably is a scam. I can't think of any way someone is
making money buying W123s at $2K and shipping them overseas. They just
aren't worth it. A W123 with rust and non-working AC is a sub $1,000 car
I think. Sorry to say, because I have one too.

Allan


On Sun, Nov 2, 2014, at 05:49 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
 I cannot wait much longer so I am selling it to the best offer in the
 next week. I reduced the asking price to $2,500 and was offered $2,000
 last week. The offer came from a buyer who said he ships these
 turbodiesel vehicles overseas. He came to look at the vehicle so it's
 doesn't appear to be a scam. One last time I put it on the list at the
 new price.


 If the offers fall through I will find a worthy charity and get a tax
 deduction.


 Bob


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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Sadly I think it probably is a scam. I can't think of any way someone is
making money buying W123s at $2K and shipping them overseas. They just
aren't worth it. A W123 with rust and non-working AC is a sub $1,000 car
I think. Sorry to say, because I have one too.


I'd more expect Bob from AZ to get such an offer from somebody who wants to 
export a rust free shell, but what's the scam? Either they give you cash and you 
give them title, or you say good-bye.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Make sure your expectations are low if you give the vehicle to a charity.

Tax laws have tightened up significantly in this area.  My local NPR station 
takes anything and everything as far as vehicles, boats, etc.  When I was there 
last year I was talking to one of their fundraising people about it (I used to 
volunteer there reading books for the blind) and they told me they use a 
service to dispose of the donations.  If I understood it correctly, and Mitch 
may weigh in here, you get nothing up front and then when the service sells the 
vehicle you get credit for the actual selling price.

He said they had a few members who donated nice older cars that brought very 
little, and the donors were not happy about it.

I’m sure other charitable organizations are doing the same.

Dan

  
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Allan you are probably right.  I would rather see the old girl go to a 
 good charity anyway!  I will sell the collection of filters and extra parts 
 on Ebay.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Allan Streib via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 6:15 pm
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel 
 w/202K - Westchester County New York
 
 
 
 Sadly I think it probably is a scam. I can't think of any way someone is
 making money buying W123s at $2K and shipping them overseas. They just
 aren't worth it. A W123 with rust and non-working AC is a sub $1,000 car
 I think. Sorry to say, because I have one too.
 
 Allan
 
 
 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014, at 05:49 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
 I cannot wait much longer so I am selling it to the best offer in the
 next week. I reduced the asking price to $2,500 and was offered $2,000
 last week. The offer came from a buyer who said he ships these
 turbodiesel vehicles overseas. He came to look at the vehicle so it's
 doesn't appear to be a scam. One last time I put it on the list at the
 new price.
 
 
 If the offers fall through I will find a worthy charity and get a tax
 deduction.
 
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


He said they had a few members who donated nice older cars that brought very 
little, and the donors were not happy about it.


It's a Mercedes, by golly. Expect them to sell it for $500-2000 in a charity 
auction, I'm guessing $1200ish. For quite a while, I think since 2005 or so, you 
get to deduct what they sold it for.


If they don't sell it, but use it towards their tax exempt charitable purpose 
(like giving it to a destitute person so he can drive it to work) then you can 
still deduct the FMV, whatever number you think you can support as 'fair' if 
challenged on it.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Nov 2, 2014 7:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 He said they had a few members who donated nice older cars that brought
very little, and the donors were not happy about it.


 It's a Mercedes, by golly. Expect them to sell it for $500-2000 in a
charity auction, I'm guessing $1200ish. For quite a while, I think since
2005 or so, you get to deduct what they sold it for.

I have gotten less than $499 twice, once on a 115 with nothing visibly
wrong with it (non-seized engine was disclosed of course), and later on a
then ten-year-old Volvo wagon with 140kmi.  From the receipts I gather the
hauling service is allowed to convert cars to parts if they choose, and
then assign a sale value of their own choosing... which somehow turns out
to be less than $499 regardless of vehicle.

I'm sure this varies by area, but I'm reasonably comfortable saying the
haulers in this area make a great profit by collecting cars for non-profits
and then turning over as little money as possible to them.  On the other
hand we do get a lot of nice cars in the junkyards, which are
coincidentally run by the same folks...

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The best way to move it is eBay no reserve.

If you want to support a charity they and you are far better off
financially if you sell it and give them the money.

FWIW,
Karl

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I cannot wait much longer so I am selling it to the best offer in the next
 week.  I reduced the asking price to $2,500 and was offered $2,000 last
 week.  The offer came from a buyer who said he ships these turbodiesel
 vehicles overseas.  He came to look at the vehicle so it's doesn't appear
 to be a scam.  One last time I put it on the list at the new price.


 If the offers fall through I will find a worthy charity and get a tax
 deduction.


 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com
 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wed, Oct 22, 2014 9:59 pm
 Subject: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester
 County New York



 Hi all,


I am selling my 1983 300D Turobo Diesel w/ 202K for $2.995.   I
 live just outside of NYC in Westchester County.  If anyone in the area is
 interested let me know.  Here is the Craig's List ad.


 I have extra parts that were collected after 24 years of ownership.


 http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/cto/4712160182.html


 Thanks Bob





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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014, at 08:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
 I'd more expect Bob from AZ to get such an offer from somebody who
 wants to export a rust free shell, but what's the scam? Either they
 give you cash and you give them title, or you say good-bye.

Sure cash is pretty safe. if you have a $2,000 cash offer I would say
take it and don't look back. If it's some kind of cashiers check from
an out-of-town bank, or for more than the amount and they ask for
change, it's counterfeit.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
99 percent of the the time sellers are lying when they brag about a
standing offer for more than I am willing to pay..

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 On Sun, Nov 2, 2014, at 08:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
  I'd more expect Bob from AZ to get such an offer from somebody who
  wants to export a rust free shell, but what's the scam? Either they
  give you cash and you give them title, or you say good-bye.

 Sure cash is pretty safe. if you have a $2,000 cash offer I would say
 take it and don't look back. If it's some kind of cashiers check from
 an out-of-town bank, or for more than the amount and they ask for
 change, it's counterfeit.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m not going to challenge this, but I’ve seen the “I have a standing offer of 
$ for this, so if you don’t offer me more I have a plan B so many times 
it’s become tiresome.

I was trying to buy an S420 off a guy in Johnson City, TN a few months ago and 
he kept pulling this line.  The standing offer kept getting smaller and 
smaller.  He also had someone who would trade him a late model Subaru for it, 
too, but that never seemed to materialize.

He sold it nearly two months later, but I don’t know the selling price, nor do 
I care.  I made him a fair offer and he just wanted to jerk me around with all 
of his offers and trades that never happened.

Dan


 On Nov 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 99 percent of the the time sellers are lying when they brag about a
 standing offer for more than I am willing to pay..
 


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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Is there a shortage of 140s in Florida or something?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’m not going to challenge this, but I’ve seen the “I have a standing offer 
 of $ for this, so if you don’t offer me more I have a plan B so many 
 times it’s become tiresome.
 
 I was trying to buy an S420 off a guy in Johnson City, TN a few months ago 
 and he kept pulling this line.  The standing offer kept getting smaller and 
 smaller.  He also had someone who would trade him a late model Subaru for it, 
 too, but that never seemed to materialize.
 
 He sold it nearly two months later, but I don’t know the selling price, nor 
 do I care.  I made him a fair offer and he just wanted to jerk me around with 
 all of his offers and trades that never happened.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Nov 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 99 percent of the the time sellers are lying when they brag about a
 standing offer for more than I am willing to pay..
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] *BEST OFFER*: Selling Mercedes Benz 1983 300D Turbo Diesel w/202K - Westchester County New York

2014-11-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The rust-free shells, or any W123s for that matter, are getting harder to
find out here.

Bob R
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