Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
Lots of people pulled cinder blocks out of the firepit to hold up cars too. Those just crumble, the heat from the fire takes all the strength out of them. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:14:27 -0400 From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original >> without warning). Then word got around that concrete blocks were safe >> if >> you put a piece of wood on top to distribute the load. More people got >> crushed. Finally nearly everyone became convince that concrete blocks >> were >> too risky so they started using wood blocks. This was before >> jackstands >> became cheap. > > Good concrete with a board on top would be fine. Cinder blocks > aren't what I'd call good concrete! Wood is good stuff. > -- Jim The problem seemed to be whether a person used "solid" concrete blocks such as the 4" by 8" by 16" or those which were not solid such as the standard 8" by 8" by 16" building blocks. I used the solid blocks with a piece of 3/4" plywood on top with no problem, but always kept a jack under the diff or crossmember just in case when I was under it. Eventually I got around to cutting up some 2" by 12" boards which were lighter to handle and much safer. Gerry - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
A very good idea. Also, keep any body parts away from the probable path of expansion just in case. I've had one "pop" when the cheapo side compressors slipped down the coils putting a new strut in my Buick. Probably would have broken my neck if that upper bearing had hit my chin -- instead, since I was well back, it hit the bench on the way down. Peter On Sep 27, 2007, at 8:05 AM, LarryT wrote: > Whenever I compress springs - with whatever method, I put a length of > chain > in the spring to keep it from decompressing accidentially. Just in > case. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal > > >> Yes and I removed a 123 spring with el cheapo external spring >> compressors, >> second time I tried this the spring slipped out and jumped across the >> garage >> floor. I have now invested in a proper compressor. How much is my life >> worth? More than 300 bucks. >> You may be able to use that tool to do the job but there is no margin >> for >> error. >> Anyway you have been warned, not everyone gets a second chance. >> If you are going to persist with a MacPherson strut coil compressor I >> will >> advise you to not have anyone near it when you are using it. You do >> not >> want >> to take the head off your little helper. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. >> >> >>> I appreciate the input. >>> Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. >>> >>> To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be >>> adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic >>> operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. >>> >>> One man's opinion... >>> >>> -Dave Walton >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.31/1031 - Release Date: >> 9/26/2007 12:12 PM >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
Whenever I compress springs - with whatever method, I put a length of chain in the spring to keep it from decompressing accidentially. Just in case. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal > Yes and I removed a 123 spring with el cheapo external spring compressors, > second time I tried this the spring slipped out and jumped across the > garage > floor. I have now invested in a proper compressor. How much is my life > worth? More than 300 bucks. > You may be able to use that tool to do the job but there is no margin for > error. > Anyway you have been warned, not everyone gets a second chance. > If you are going to persist with a MacPherson strut coil compressor I will > advise you to not have anyone near it when you are using it. You do not > want > to take the head off your little helper. > > - Original Message - > From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > > >>I appreciate the input. >> Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. >> >> To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be >> adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic >> operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. >> >> One man's opinion... >> >> -Dave Walton >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.31/1031 - Release Date: > 9/26/2007 12:12 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
I find it easier to use axle stands than lump bits of concrete around but each to their own. i have heard about people using old batteries to support cars and a multitude of other horror stories. The Darwin awards are a good source for DIY idiots no longer with us. Talking about axle stands, I bought a engine removal kit (crane, leveler and stand) the other day and got a set of 3 ton stands chucked in on the deal. Jim Cathey wrote: > > Good concrete with a board on top would be fine. Cinder blocks > aren't what I'd call good concrete! Wood is good stuff. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
>> without warning). Then word got around that concrete blocks were safe >> if >> you put a piece of wood on top to distribute the load. More people got >> crushed. Finally nearly everyone became convince that concrete blocks >> were >> too risky so they started using wood blocks. This was before >> jackstands >> became cheap. > > Good concrete with a board on top would be fine. Cinder blocks > aren't what I'd call good concrete! Wood is good stuff. > -- Jim The problem seemed to be whether a person used "solid" concrete blocks such as the 4" by 8" by 16" or those which were not solid such as the standard 8" by 8" by 16" building blocks. I used the solid blocks with a piece of 3/4" plywood on top with no problem, but always kept a jack under the diff or crossmember just in case when I was under it. Eventually I got around to cutting up some 2" by 12" boards which were lighter to handle and much safer. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
> without warning). Then word got around that concrete blocks were safe > if > you put a piece of wood on top to distribute the load. More people got > crushed. Finally nearly everyone became convince that concrete blocks > were > too risky so they started using wood blocks. This was before > jackstands > became cheap. Good concrete with a board on top would be fine. Cinder blocks aren't what I'd call good concrete! Wood is good stuff. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
Years ago people sat cars on concrete blocks and worked under them until a few got crushed to death in their own driveway (the blocks can crumble without warning). Then word got around that concrete blocks were safe if you put a piece of wood on top to distribute the load. More people got crushed. Finally nearly everyone became convince that concrete blocks were too risky so they started using wood blocks. This was before jackstands became cheap. I knew a mechanic who was killed back then when a professional spring compressor broke. Next front end job, I'll rent Rustys and carefully put the compressed spring in a closet while it's compressed. That's what they do in some front end shops. Gerry --- > Hendrik Reissen wrote: > Yes and I removed a 123 spring with el cheapo external spring compressors, > second time I tried this the spring slipped out and jumped across the > garage > floor. I have now invested in a proper compressor. How much is my life > worth? More than 300 bucks. > You may be able to use that tool to do the job but there is no margin for > error. > Anyway you have been warned, not everyone gets a second chance. > If you are going to persist with a MacPherson strut coil compressor I will > advise you to not have anyone near it when you are using it. You do not > want > to take the head off your little helper. > > - Original Message - > From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. >>I appreciate the input. >> Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. >> To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be >> adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic >> operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. >> One man's opinion... >> -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
And with the pump on only one side, the plates for the top and bottom of the spring are bolted onto the sides of the moving brackets - I wouldn't use it on a Mercedes spring! On 9/26/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't believe I'd want to trust my life with a hydraulic pump, high pressure > hose & cylinder The traditional screw type compressors are much safer, > providing they are rated for the load they are compressing. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
> Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Yowch! Makes the group-purchase price of a few years ago look good now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Don't believe I'd want to trust my life with a hydraulic pump, high pressure hose & cylinder The traditional screw type compressors are much safer, providing they are rated for the load they are compressing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. No. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > Would something like this work? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compre ssor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQ sspagenameZWDVW > > -Dave Walton > > > On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Rusty Cullens wrote: >> > >> > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? >> >> >> I would not consider fabricating this one. >> Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. >> SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. >> No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two >> swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool >> has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more >> powerful than the usual automotive spring. >> >> I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
Yes and I removed a 123 spring with el cheapo external spring compressors, second time I tried this the spring slipped out and jumped across the garage floor. I have now invested in a proper compressor. How much is my life worth? More than 300 bucks. You may be able to use that tool to do the job but there is no margin for error. Anyway you have been warned, not everyone gets a second chance. If you are going to persist with a MacPherson strut coil compressor I will advise you to not have anyone near it when you are using it. You do not want to take the head off your little helper. - Original Message - From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. >I appreciate the input. > Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. > > To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be > adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic > operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. > > One man's opinion... > > -Dave Walton > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1801-Mercedes-Benz-Strut-Coil-Spring-Compressor-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ019QQitemZ290165001781QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW This is the one I got and it did the job without the price tag, although I had to enlarge the hole on the 123 for it to fit. Perhaps I should have used some KY. Shipping from that seller was pretty quick too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Coil-Spring-Compressor-Suspension-Repair-Tools_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ002QQitemZ120165946852QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Here is one with a buy it now option. So basically you will need to use the tool three times to make it worthwhile, if you only think you'll need it once then rent from Rusty. Also remmeber that these things have a resale value and as such can be sold once no longer required. - Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. > > Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
No, the only safe way to do this is with a proper internal compressor. Thr problem with that one is that it compresses from one side and the spring can jump out the other. - Original Message - From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > Would something like this work? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > -Dave Walton > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I bought an aftermarket copy on stealbay for about 250 US beans, did the job on the 123 very safely. - Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? > > > Rusty Cullens > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Dropping a car on one self from an 'ignorant' spring removal process would be extra special stupidly. But hey, ever watch 'Jack Ass' ?? I guess any thing is achievable. I've all ready ruled out jacking them in or out . I've done this on other things in the past with mixed results. Another technique "not recommended" is to place steel straps around the springs 'while under compression using existing suspension, car weight and maybe a jack then finding a way to remove them where you still have some protection from accidents. The major reason I wont do this here is if it screws up the car can have a better day .. oh yea always use some kind of a safety chain to limit spring travel if accidentally released and clearly understand the rang it could have. Like I said I've been around springs on 'the lose' in the past. BTW I have all 10 fingers and toes .I think I've located an internal hook type compressor that the ME here at work has used on his Ram Charger. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'archer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > Consider yourself lucky that you were puckering all the way and not > squashed half way through. > > A guy who used to live across the street flew med flight choppers. They > responded to a call where some guy's car fell on him - no head left to > speak of. > > You can not move fast enough to get out of the way of a falling car! > > Thanks, Tom > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: 9/26/07 1:45 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > > Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' > the > whole time. Never do it again. > Gerry > --- > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be > sooner >> than >> you think. >> i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring >> compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. > >> On 9/26/07, George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor > for >>> my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until >>> 'death' >>> (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type > compressor. >>> (I >>> have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal > type. >>> Has >>> any one use on of these? >>> >>> I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the > dangers >>> involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). >>> >>> George Larribeau >>> Dallas Texas >>> >>> >>> 1985 300SD 220K >>> 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I >>> 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K >>> 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS >>> 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra >>> Ugly,but runs) >>> >>> >>> 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) >>> 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: >> 9/24/2007 7:09 PM >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rusty Cullens wrote: > > Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. That's why I said to hire an independent mechanic with the right tools (or find a dealer who remembers what a 12x chassis looks like) or rent yours. I do wish I'd had the spare $$ to buy a Klann when they were a sub $500 item, but even then it would be cheaper to rent yours once every five years than to give up the interest income on the purchase money. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Consider yourself lucky that you were puckering all the way and not squashed half way through. A guy who used to live across the street flew med flight choppers. They responded to a call where some guy's car fell on him - no head left to speak of. You can not move fast enough to get out of the way of a falling car! Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 9/26/07 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' the whole time. Never do it again. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner > than > you think. > i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring > compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. > On 9/26/07, George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for >> my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until >> 'death' >> (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. >> (I >> have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. >> Has >> any one use on of these? >> >> I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers >> involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). >> >> George Larribeau >> Dallas Texas >> >> >> 1985 300SD 220K >> 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I >> 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K >> 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS >> 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra >> Ugly,but runs) >> >> >> 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) >> 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: > 9/24/2007 7:09 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' the whole time. Never do it again. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner > than > you think. > i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring > compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. > On 9/26/07, George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for >> my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until >> 'death' >> (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. >> (I >> have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. >> Has >> any one use on of these? >> >> I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers >> involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). >> >> George Larribeau >> Dallas Texas >> >> >> 1985 300SD 220K >> 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I >> 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K >> 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS >> 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra >> Ugly,but runs) >> >> >> 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) >> 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: > 9/24/2007 7:09 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I appreciate the input. Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. One man's opinion... -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than > you think. > > i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring > compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. > > On 9/26/07, George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for > > my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' > > (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I > > have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has > > any one use on of these? > > > > I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers > > involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). > > > > George Larribeau > > Dallas Texas > > > > > > 1985 300SD 220K > > 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I > > 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K > > 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS > > 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra > > Ugly,but runs) > > > > > > 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) > > 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for > my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' > (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I > have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has > any one use on of these? > > I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers > involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). > > George Larribeau > Dallas Texas > > > 1985 300SD 220K > 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I > 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K > 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS > 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra > Ugly,but runs) > > > 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) > 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
What to kill yourself with? Absolutely. Dave remember that everybody on the list is saying something like "the right tool costs HUNDREDS of dollars" and "If you don't use the right tool you'll DIE". Do you really want to try a cheapo tool on this? Is your life worth the money. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:15:27 -0400 From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I just used one to remove the front springs on my 99 E300. The local Harbor Freight had it on sale for $56. It took a little wiggling to get it in place, but it handled the job quite well. However, Harbor Freight no longer lists it on their website, so there may have been too many "incidents". Or they sold out. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No. > > Rusty Cullens > BuyMBparts, Inc. > Tel 1-800-741-5252 > Fax 770-454-9745 > > - Original Message - > From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > > > > Would something like this work? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > > > -Dave Walton > > > > > > On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Rusty Cullens wrote: > >> > > >> > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? > >> > >> > >> I would not consider fabricating this one. > >> Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. > >> SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. > >> No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two > >> swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool > >> has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more > >> powerful than the usual automotive spring. > >> > >> I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
No. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > Would something like this work? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > -Dave Walton > > > On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Rusty Cullens wrote: >> > >> > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? >> >> >> I would not consider fabricating this one. >> Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. >> SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. >> No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two >> swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool >> has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more >> powerful than the usual automotive spring. >> >> I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. > > > Rusty Cullens wrote: >> >> You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? > > > I would not consider fabricating this one. > Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. > SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. > No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two > swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool > has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more > powerful than the usual automotive spring. > > I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rusty Cullens wrote: > > > > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? > > > I would not consider fabricating this one. > Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. > SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. > No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two > swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool > has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more > powerful than the usual automotive spring. > > I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rent Rusty's when you need it. Cheap, easy, fast and it is the proper tool that will not kill you. --R George Larribeau wrote: > I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my > 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' > (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I > have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has > any one use on of these? > > I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers > involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). > > George Larribeau > Dallas Texas > > > 1985 300SD 220K > 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I > 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K > 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS > 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra > Ugly,but runs) > > > 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) > 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rusty Cullens wrote: > > You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: "George Larribeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. >I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for >my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until >'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type >compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an >internal type. Has any one use on of these? > > I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers > involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). > > George Larribeau > Dallas Texas > > > 1985 300SD 220K > 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I > 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K > 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS > 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra > Ugly,but runs) > > > 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) > 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
