Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Jealous? Luther On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:28:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you bastard Luther wrote: , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
perhaps Luther wrote: Jealous? Luther On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:28:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you bastard Luther wrote: , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I TOTALLY agree, the teardrop is to my mind a MUCH cooler trailer. Another consideration with the teardrop is that nobody can invite themselves along with you... -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:57:03 -0500 From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I sort of agree with you. The pop up camper does not really appeal to me. The fellow I referred to earlier is an accountant though so what more need I say. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale Randy wrote: He could never find anything newer that was as light. He still lives nearby and I run into him occasionally but he has moved on to mini-vans and SUV's as the children have grown bigger. My mother and stepfather tow a pop up camper with their 2000 Chrysler Town and Country minivan. My mother drives and they just love the 3.8L V6. I would consider it pure hell on earth to cruise around in a minivan towing a pop-up trailer to go see the sights through the western half of the country. But, they are retired and they love it. They once spent six weeks on one of these trips. Donald H. Snook - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I am at the point of either painting and derusting my '83 wagon with 282 K miles, or selling fit or a pittance and buying another one of a similar vintage that doesn't need body work. Neither option is particularly palatable but I have always felt this is the BEST Mercedes model of all time, so am reluctant to drive anything else on a daily basis. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah Ed's obviously never had a wagon before... I kept my 300TD way longer than was prudent and dumped way more money in it than I should have strictly because when it was all working right it was a delightful car to drive. At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:01:57 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground. Hendrik E M wrote: If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Yeah Ed's obviously never had a wagon before... I kept my 300TD way longer than was prudent and dumped way more money in it than I should have strictly because when it was all working right it was a delightful car to drive. At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:01:57 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground. Hendrik E M wrote: If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Curt Raymond wrote: Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. Some friends of mine have A-Liners. Pretty cool, pop-up with no canvas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. I once ran into a guy at a rest stop that had a pretty nice outfit. He had a Caprice wagon, and was towing a trailer made out of another Caprice wagon. The nose was cut off and there was a nice-looking bulkhead in its place. The two cars were the same color. The towed wagon was the sleeping quarters. He was justifiably proud of the arrangement, it looked good and worked well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Better than the S124? I keep hoping I'll find a $700 300TE and drop my 2.5 drivetrain in it. If you've got a good running 617 with a good SLS pump on it, keep your eyes peeled for a cheap 280TE with a perfect body and needing a valve job. Mitch. andrew strasfogel wrote: I have always felt this is the BEST Mercedes model of all time, so am reluctant to drive anything else on a daily basis. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I'm thinking either urethaned wood like: http://www.bigwoodycampers.com/deluxe.htm or aluminum like: http://www.cozycruiser.com/ The vintage look really appeals to me. Also since they're so small they'll tow well behind about any car (probably even a 240D although you wouldn't go anywhere fast..) -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:20:47 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. I once ran into a guy at a rest stop that had a pretty nice outfit. He had a Caprice wagon, and was towing a trailer made out of another Caprice wagon. The nose was cut off and there was a nice-looking bulkhead in its place. The two cars were the same color. The towed wagon was the sleeping quarters. He was justifiably proud of the arrangement, it looked good and worked well. -- Jim - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I like the wood look ones. But towing with a 240d? You know well that the only camper to tow behind a 240D is your sleeping bag on a dolly. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:46 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale I'm thinking either urethaned wood like: http://www.bigwoodycampers.com/deluxe.htm or aluminum like: http://www.cozycruiser.com/ The vintage look really appeals to me. Also since they're so small they'll tow well behind about any car (probably even a 240D although you wouldn't go anywhere fast..) -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:20:47 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. I once ran into a guy at a rest stop that had a pretty nice outfit. He had a Caprice wagon, and was towing a trailer made out of another Caprice wagon. The nose was cut off and there was a nice-looking bulkhead in its place. The two cars were the same color. The towed wagon was the sleeping quarters. He was justifiably proud of the arrangement, it looked good and worked well. -- Jim - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I like the wood look ones. But towing with a 240d? You know well that the only camper to tow behind a 240D is your sleeping bag on a dolly. I thought they pulled caravans in Europe with 240TDs. The views are spectacular climbing the Alps at 25mph. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Does it ride better? My old chevy pickup rides wonderful when really loaded. Does not go around corners well even empty but weight does not appear to make anything worse with the possible exception of braking. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale I do haul a lot of wood and concrete in our Plymouth van - MB iron V8's as well. I can testify that it does NOT handle the same when loaded (or over loaded)! On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I know a fellow here who does that with a Porshe 944. He bought one that had been in a frontal accident and essentially cut off back to the windshield to make a trailer. He uses it for sleeping accommodation at various racing events that he travels to over the summer. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. I once ran into a guy at a rest stop that had a pretty nice outfit. He had a Caprice wagon, and was towing a trailer made out of another Caprice wagon. The nose was cut off and there was a nice-looking bulkhead in its place. The two cars were the same color. The towed wagon was the sleeping quarters. He was justifiably proud of the arrangement, it looked good and worked well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
A former neighbour towed a popup trailer with a non turbo Jetta diesel - all the way to the west coast through the mountains with wife and 3 or 4 small children and associated baggage. He did acknowledge that it climbed pretty slow. He tried for a long time to find a better trailer as the old one he had was pretty ratty. The canvas was in bad shape. He could never find anything newer that was as light. He still lives nearby and I run into him occasionally but he has moved on to mini-vans and SUV's as the children have grown bigger. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: I like the wood look ones. But towing with a 240d? You know well that the only camper to tow behind a 240D is your sleeping bag on a dolly. I thought they pulled caravans in Europe with 240TDs. The views are spectacular climbing the Alps at 25mph. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
We're so spoiled now, everybody has a truck or SUV. When I was a kid we had a sedan that my dad drove and my mom drove a stationwagon. They finally submitted to the SUV at the beginning of the craze in '88 with an S15. I remember re-roofing the house and hauling all the shingles in the back of the '83 Mercury Lynx station wagon with the ass end dragging up I95 from Wick's Lumberyard in Westbrook back to Falmouth. Probably never got over the 45mph minimum. -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500 From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
, that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Some day I too am going to grow up and be able to purchase a 300TD.:) Lord I want one - just can't afford one.:( Dave H... -- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Dave - I have a fully broken-in 1983 300TD with roof rack and crossbars (!!) that is totally affordable!! What will it take to put you into the front seat of this wonderful daily driver? Contact me offlist or onlist; I offer total transparency when it my fantastic 300TD. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some day I too am going to grow up and be able to purchase a 300TD.:) Lord I want one - just can't afford one.:( Dave H... -- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than the S124? I keep hoping I'll find a $700 300TE and drop my 2.5 drivetrain in it. Do 210 chassis wagons still have SLS? They don't seem to command any premium over the same-year sedans like 124s and 123s do, and late-'90s examples are quite common and attractively priced around here. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
andrew strasfogel wrote: I offer total transparency when it my fantastic 300TD. Is any of the sheet metal transparent yet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Randy wrote: He could never find anything newer that was as light. He still lives nearby and I run into him occasionally but he has moved on to mini-vans and SUV's as the children have grown bigger. My mother and stepfather tow a pop up camper with their 2000 Chrysler Town and Country minivan. My mother drives and they just love the 3.8L V6. I would consider it pure hell on earth to cruise around in a minivan towing a pop-up trailer to go see the sights through the western half of the country. But, they are retired and they love it. They once spent six weeks on one of these trips. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I sort of agree with you. The pop up camper does not really appeal to me. The fellow I referred to earlier is an accountant though so what more need I say. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale Randy wrote: He could never find anything newer that was as light. He still lives nearby and I run into him occasionally but he has moved on to mini-vans and SUV's as the children have grown bigger. My mother and stepfather tow a pop up camper with their 2000 Chrysler Town and Country minivan. My mother drives and they just love the 3.8L V6. I would consider it pure hell on earth to cruise around in a minivan towing a pop-up trailer to go see the sights through the western half of the country. But, they are retired and they love it. They once spent six weeks on one of these trips. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Luther said... , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner My main consolation is that it went to a very good home. I have this symbiotic relationship with my kids...My son, the Ford dealer, cherry picks a good tradein for my daughter...she drives it for a couple of years, gets bored, and I pick it up for an even better price. She still hasn't figured out that she's better off driving those cars and trucks forever, but then again, I haven't figured out how to get her to buy a mature MB diesel in the first place. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
you bastard Luther wrote: , that sure is a NICE TD :D Luther, son of said TD's owner On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:23:02 -0500, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed said SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Hey Edthe station wagon was the original SUV... I once went to Home Depot with the 300TD, loaded up the rear with concrete and bricks. The orange apron guy said you're gonna be dragging the tail. Started the engine and the tail lifted right up and I drove away nice and level. Royce Missing my 300TD... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=5600p=36070hilit=trailer#p36070 1 and 3/4 S123's http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?f=9t=5866p=37306#p37306 Finless Finny campervan Jim Cathey wrote: At some point the missus and I are going to take a cross country road trip and a 300TD is way high on the list of vehicles I want to use. Put a small teardrop trailer behind it to sleep in and we'll be largely self sufficient. I once ran into a guy at a rest stop that had a pretty nice outfit. He had a Caprice wagon, and was towing a trailer made out of another Caprice wagon. The nose was cut off and there was a nice-looking bulkhead in its place. The two cars were the same color. The towed wagon was the sleeping quarters. He was justifiably proud of the arrangement, it looked good and worked well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
The S123 is probably a bit tougher but the S124 is more refined and efficient. Hendrik Mitch Haley wrote: Better than the S124? I keep hoping I'll find a $700 300TE and drop my 2.5 drivetrain in it. If you've got a good running 617 with a good SLS pump on it, keep your eyes peeled for a cheap 280TE with a perfect body and needing a valve job. Mitch. andrew strasfogel wrote: I have always felt this is the BEST Mercedes model of all time, so am reluctant to drive anything else on a daily basis. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it just for the sheer fun of it. If you're interested, drop me a note off-list. If I had the coin I would jump on this, but there is no way short of cashing out some of my 401k earnings that I could come up with the $$. Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
155k on a diesel is barely broken in. $6k is not unusual even with todays diesel prices. I would expect the paint to shine like new and everything to work. The 300TD was the flagship of wagons in its heyday. The problem with your W126 is plastic. Chrome gets the big bucks. -Rolf E M wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it just for the sheer fun of it. If you're interested, drop me a note off-list. If I had the coin I would jump on this, but there is no way short of cashing out some of my 401k earnings that I could come up with the $$. Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
The TDs are hard to come by. If it were a 300D it would get *maybe* 1/3 of that price, in the described condition, unless the buyer has more dollars than sense. Allan -- 1983 300D. E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I haven't been following the market around here myself, but people are telling me that the damned biodiesel craze has jacked the price of ANY diesel vehicle to ridiculous levels. The seller, while chatting with him yesterday, mentioned that he had been watching sales of MB diesels (he is also a former 300D owner) on eBay and that he was just astounded at the stupid prices they were bringing. As I mentioned in my original post, he's not all that motivated to sell because he appears to have a boatload of money and lots of time on his hands. Besides his Jetta TDI, he also has some sort of older Volvo sedan, a two year old Chevy truck, and a couple of motorcycles as well. It's a matter of cleaning out the driveway with a minimal amount of effort. To give you some idea of his attitude, I had a Mamiya M645E on CL. In my ad I mentioned also having an M645 Super, hence the rationale for selling the M645E. He contacted me and asked if I was interested in a spare film back and a Polaroid back. I told him yes. He sold the both to me for $26. On eBay or anywhere else they're worth about $150 - $200 collectively. His feeling was that since these had been sitting around in the closet unused (he sold the camera a few years back) that anything he got was good moneybut he also told me what the going prices for them were when I looked at them, so he's no dummy. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it just for the sheer fun of it. If you're interested, drop me a note off-list. If I had the coin I would jump on this, but there is no way short of cashing out some of my 401k earnings that I could come up with the $$. Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
You can't trust Ebay prices, they are only good for insurance claims. I forget the production numbers on the TE/TD but they were very very low similar to CE/CD. What something like 4 million W123 produced overall? Under 200k wagons produced IIRC. My wife is on her second wagon (first was NA which is OK in a sedan but not really a wagon) and we both love it to death. Not a lot of cars you can stick a load of 2x4 and 400lb of concrete mix into it with windows rolled up, the ac on and have the car handle like normal. -Rolf LWB250 wrote: I haven't been following the market around here myself, but people are telling me that the damned biodiesel craze has jacked the price of ANY diesel vehicle to ridiculous levels. The seller, while chatting with him yesterday, mentioned that he had been watching sales of MB diesels (he is also a former 300D owner) on eBay and that he was just astounded at the stupid prices they were bringing. As I mentioned in my original post, he's not all that motivated to sell because he appears to have a boatload of money and lots of time on his hands. Besides his Jetta TDI, he also has some sort of older Volvo sedan, a two year old Chevy truck, and a couple of motorcycles as well. It's a matter of cleaning out the driveway with a minimal amount of effort. To give you some idea of his attitude, I had a Mamiya M645E on CL. In my ad I mentioned also having an M645 Super, hence the rationale for selling the M645E. He contacted me and asked if I was interested in a spare film back and a Polaroid back. I told him yes. He sold the both to me for $26. On eBay or anywhere else they're worth about $150 - $200 collectively. His feeling was that since these had been sitting around in the closet unused (he sold the camera a few years back) that anything he got was good moneybut he also told me what the going prices for them were when I looked at them, so he's no dummy. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
155,000 may not be a lot of a diesel, but 24 years old is 24 years old, and the list to put most 24 year old cars in proper working order, is pretty long. Factor in all the rubber in the engine compartment, suspension, so so paint, not to mention things like a 24 year old gas tank, brake lines, and everything else, it would have to be something more special than what was described for me to part with $6000, or more to buy. But that's just me, and enough ppl are obviously willing to spend that kind of money to keep the market for such cars where it is. Plastic or not, I'd take the 560 S Class any day over a W123. Besides, I don't remember a W123 having all that much more chrome than an W126 Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 155k on a diesel is barely broken in. $6k is not unusual even with todays diesel prices. I would expect the paint to shine like new and everything to work. The 300TD was the flagship of wagons in its heyday. The problem with your W126 is plastic. Chrome gets the big bucks. -Rolf E M wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it just for the sheer fun of it. If you're interested, drop me a note off-list. If I had the coin I would jump on this, but there is no way short of cashing out some of my 401k earnings that I could come up with the $$. Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Other than the grille and bumpers, the rest of the brightwork on a 123 is anodized aluminum. Dan (who has field stripped more 123's than he cares to recall) --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 155,000 may not be a lot of a diesel, but 24 years old is 24 years old, and the list to put most 24 year old cars in proper working order, is pretty long. Factor in all the rubber in the engine compartment, suspension, so so paint, not to mention things like a 24 year old gas tank, brake lines, and everything else, it would have to be something more special than what was described for me to part with $6000, or more to buy. But that's just me, and enough ppl are obviously willing to spend that kind of money to keep the market for such cars where it is. Plastic or not, I'd take the 560 S Class any day over a W123. Besides, I don't remember a W123 having all that much more chrome than an W126 Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 155k on a diesel is barely broken in. $6k is not unusual even with todays diesel prices. I would expect the paint to shine like new and everything to work. The 300TD was the flagship of wagons in its heyday. The problem with your W126 is plastic. Chrome gets the big bucks. -Rolf E M wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more than happy to bring it over to my place and work my detailing magic on it just for the sheer fun of it. If you're interested, drop me a note off-list. If I had the coin I would jump on this, but there is no way short of cashing out some of my 401k earnings that I could come up with the $$. Dan Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I think stupid prices sums it up. :-) Is gas really expensive enough to justify going to all the hassle, and expense some are going to to convert cars? Again, just running a normal diesel, compared to gas, is paying a premium for a diesel car really worth it? I personally don't think so. If you like diesels, then sure, they're great. To me, it just boils down to what parts you like to work on and fix. They all break, nothing lasts a million miles, and when they get to be 25 years old, not sure there is any car I'd want to trust to carry me across the country. Oh I know lots do and lots make it, but not something I'd feel comfortable loading the family into and trusting for such use. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I haven't been following the market around here myself, but people are telling me that the damned biodiesel craze has jacked the price of ANY diesel vehicle to ridiculous levels. The seller, while chatting with him yesterday, mentioned that he had been watching sales of MB diesels (he is also a former 300D owner) on eBay and that he was just astounded at the stupid prices they were bringing. As I mentioned in my original post, he's not all that motivated to sell because he appears to have a boatload of money and lots of time on his hands. Besides his Jetta TDI, he also has some sort of older Volvo sedan, a two year old Chevy truck, and a couple of motorcycles as well. It's a matter of cleaning out the driveway with a minimal amount of effort. To give you some idea of his attitude, I had a Mamiya M645E on CL. In my ad I mentioned also having an M645 Super, hence the rationale for selling the M645E. He contacted me and asked if I was interested in a spare film back and a Polaroid back. I told him yes. He sold the both to me for $26. On eBay or anywhere else they're worth about $150 - $200 collectively. His feeling was that since these had been sitting around in the closet unused (he sold the camera a few years back) that anything he got was good moneybut he also told me what the going prices for them were when I looked at them, so he's no dummy. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of life left in it, this would be a good deal. If someone wants to buy it I would be more
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can't trust Ebay prices, they are only good for insurance claims. I forget the production numbers on the TE/TD but they were very very low similar to CE/CD. What something like 4 million W123 produced overall? Under 200k wagons produced IIRC. My wife is on her second wagon (first was NA which is OK in a sedan but not really a wagon) and we both love it to death. Not a lot of cars you can stick a load of 2x4 and 400lb of concrete mix into it with windows rolled up, the ac on and have the car handle like normal. -Rolf LWB250 wrote: I haven't been following the market around here myself, but people are telling me that the damned biodiesel craze has jacked the price of ANY diesel vehicle to ridiculous levels. The seller, while chatting with him yesterday, mentioned that he had been watching sales of MB diesels (he is also a former 300D owner) on eBay and that he was just astounded at the stupid prices they were bringing. As I mentioned in my original post, he's not all that motivated to sell because he appears to have a boatload of money and lots of time on his hands. Besides his Jetta TDI, he also has some sort of older Volvo sedan, a two year old Chevy truck, and a couple of motorcycles as well. It's a matter of cleaning out the driveway with a minimal amount of effort. To give you some idea of his attitude, I had a Mamiya M645E on CL. In my ad I mentioned also having an M645 Super, hence the rationale for selling the M645E. He contacted me and asked if I was interested in a spare film back and a Polaroid back. I told him yes. He sold the both to me for $26. On eBay or anywhere else they're worth about $150 - $200 collectively. His feeling was that since these had been sitting around in the closet unused (he sold the camera a few years back) that anything he got was good moneybut he also told me what the going prices for them were when I looked at them, so he's no dummy. Dan --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-) You could probably buy the best 560 SEL in the world today, for that kind of money. Ed 300E 2008/4/24 LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller, so he now drives a Jetta TDI. Here's the deal: 1985 300TD 155,000 original miles Dealer maintained All records 3,000 mile oil changes Dark blue Has crossmembers on roof rack No 3rd seat Good tires The only negatives I saw or learned of were: Paint is tired. Needs a serious Mercedes Martha Stewart detailing, but it's in good shape. Interior looks good, everything is intact, wood is good, blue custom sheepskins on the front. Minor (very) rust in some of the wheel arches, not rust through, but places where the paint has chipped on the edge and the exposed metal has rusted. Nothing of size, just some little chips here and there. Back edge of hood has some surface rust right on the very back edge. He says the AC needs to be recharged - it blows cool, but not cold. Otherwise he says everything is in working order. I did not drive or run it - I just did a cursory walk-around and this is what I saw. Everything else is based on what he told me. The guy is an expat from the UK and must be loaded, based on the size of the house and the stuff in and around it. The car was purchased new in Seattle and lived there for a few years before being moved to Florida. He was looking for $7k. I told him it was worth $6k in it's present condition. He's pretty savvy, and has been watching prices on eBay and CL around here, so he's not about to be taken. He wants to be rid of it, but he's not going to give it away. He's aware of the biodiesel garbage and how it's driven prices up, to give you an idea of how well-versed he is on the situation. He seemed satisfied with that number and said if he could get $6k he would be happy. I would say that if you're looking for what appears to be a good, solid wagon with a lot of
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground. Hendrik E M wrote: If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground. Hendrik E M wrote: If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale
I do haul a lot of wood and concrete in our Plymouth van - MB iron V8's as well. I can testify that it does NOT handle the same when loaded (or over loaded)! On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
