Re: [MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It looks very nice but he smoked too much bad skunk weed

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> On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks pretty nice.  Are they being unrealistic?
> 
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'll look around for it the next coupla days.  I recall the ones I have 
are only about 2" long and the body is only maybe 1" dia.  One is still 
in the bag though, so will have the part #.


--R

On 5/9/15 6:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Here is the par number:
123 800 31 75
Genuine Mercedes - A/C Vacuum Actuator; For Leg Room Flap
1 per car.
  It is round, about 2" dia and about 2" long.


I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might still 
be in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it would 
either be the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the TD, 
the PO who was a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason the 
AC was not working and provided 2 of them new with the car, though 
after changing one (a miserable job up under the dash and behind the 
glove box) I determined that the cause was a leaky refrigerant system 
and never further messed with it.  If you want I can check to find it 
and if it would work I can send it along.  I might have kept the old 
one too, which was actually working but it would now be 36yo whereas 
the newer one would be more like 13 or 14, whenever we bought the car.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Here is the par number:
123 800 31 75
Genuine Mercedes - A/C Vacuum Actuator; For Leg Room Flap
1 per car.
  It is round, about 2" dia and about 2" long.


I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might 
still be in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it 
would either be the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the 
TD, the PO who was a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason 
the AC was not working and provided 2 of them new with the car, 
though after changing one (a miserable job up under the dash and 
behind the glove box) I determined that the cause was a leaky 
refrigerant system and never further messed with it.  If you want I 
can check to find it and if it would work I can send it along.  I 
might have kept the old one too, which was actually working but it 
would now be 36yo whereas the newer one would be more like 13 or 14, 
whenever we bought the car.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might still be 
in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it would either be 
the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the TD, the PO who was 
a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason the AC was not working 
and provided 2 of them new with the car, though after changing one (a 
miserable job up under the dash and behind the glove box) I determined 
that the cause was a leaky refrigerant system and never further messed 
with it.  If you want I can check to find it and if it would work I can 
send it along.  I might have kept the old one too, which was actually 
working but it would now be 36yo whereas the newer one would be more 
like 13 or 14, whenever we bought the car.


--R



On 5/9/15 4:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 >
 > I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
 > the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
 > A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side 
of a

240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig


Got it!

I finally figured out I had a T connector i was using with the (HF Not 
mity) vac pump that was leaking, giving me 0 vacuum on every test.  
After I changed that the electric/vacuum switch by 107 was good, as 
was the rest of the line back to the start in front of the firewall.  
The number 107: "vacuum element for leg room flap" holds no vacuum, so 
that is the culprit.  Guess I'll ask Tom Hanson at the classic Center 
the cost of that and the door lock pod.


BTW, the book does not show the vacuum/electric switch for 107. Both 
are located in front and to the right of the glove box.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curly wrote:
> 
> Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying
> to figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum
> system unhooked.

Vacuum is used in the manual HVAC system?  

I guess it's been too long since I had the dash all torn out - but
I don't remember any vacuum for the HVAC...

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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 >
 > I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
 > the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
 > A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig


Got it!

I finally figured out I had a T connector i was using with the (HF 
Not mity) vac pump that was leaking, giving me 0 vacuum on every 
test.  After I changed that the electric/vacuum switch by 107 was 
good, as was the rest of the line back to the start in front of the 
firewall.  The number 107: "vacuum element for leg room flap" holds 
no vacuum, so that is the culprit.  Guess I'll ask Tom Hanson at the 
classic Center the cost of that and the door lock pod.


BTW, the book does not show the vacuum/electric switch for 107.  Both 
are located in front and to the right of the glove box.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 >
 > I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
 > the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
 > A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.

Craig



Broke out the books finally:

the diagram at 80-900 shows 3 vacuum components for 123.1, but it 
does not identify them or their function.


80.4-901/2 Diagram identifies and shows 3 vac components.
   104: vacuum rotary switch for recirculating air flap
   105:vacuum pull switch for leg room air flap
   106: vacuum element for circulating air flap
   107: vacuum element for leg room flap

104 and 105 appear to be the same unit according to the diagram. 
They are all related to air conditioning.  The air conditioning does 
not work, and I don't anticipate resurrecting air cond in the next 
few years.  Driving with the windows down works for me, as long as 
the heater works!


So I think I will put Humpty back together again, and let it be.  I 
have no appetite for a evapectomy size job.  I'll RTFM a little more 
to see if I find anything more.  It appears that this is the first 
time i opened the books since 2003, according to the envelope I used 
as a bookmark.  This car has only travelled 1000 mi in the last 5 
years, and not much more than 2000 in the last 12 years or so.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to 
> figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system 
> unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to 
> pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far 
> right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent 
> open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.
> 
> I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and 
> the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines. 
> A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just 
> under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.

Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig

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Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   267 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)
Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to 
figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system 
unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to 
pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far 
right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent 
open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.


I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and 
the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines. 
A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just 
under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.




On Sat, 9 May 2015 11:27:13 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 I have the underdash panels off, and I don't see where the vacuum
 line goes under the dash.  I found a good illustrated How to for the
 ACCII system, but don't see one for the 240D manual heater.  Anyone
 BTDT?

 The HVAC vacuum hose in front of the firewall is a complete "open"
 So far, I have not found the vacuum line under the dash.


When I was working on our '82 240D/3.0, I had no trouble finding the
vacuum lines, so I don't remember exactly where they come through. As I
recall it's higher inside the passenger compartment under the dash than
you would expect. Try following the vacuum lines to the ignition switch
from the ignition switch back to the firewall.

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 11:27:13 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have the underdash panels off, and I don't see where the vacuum 
> line goes under the dash.  I found a good illustrated How to for the 
> ACCII system, but don't see one for the 240D manual heater.  Anyone 
> BTDT?
> 
> The HVAC vacuum hose in front of the firewall is a complete "open" 
> So far, I have not found the vacuum line under the dash.

When I was working on our '82 240D/3.0, I had no trouble finding the
vacuum lines, so I don't remember exactly where they come through. As I
recall it's higher inside the passenger compartment under the dash than
you would expect. Try following the vacuum lines to the ignition switch
from the ignition switch back to the firewall.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240d overheating

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

well that's the simplest and cheapest thing … i would have done that first and 
would do that now if the problem is not solved


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins


On Feb 19, 2015, at 4:53 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Citric acid flush was not done. 
> The radiator is good.
> 
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>> On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> about the overheating 240d
>> 
>> did you ever do a citric acid cleanse?
>> 
>> they all have a lot of crud in the cooling system
>> 
>> then i'd replace radiator and then water pump assuming the thermostat tests 
>> good in boiling water
>> thanks,
>> 
>> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 240d overheating

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Citric acid flush was not done. 
The radiator is good.

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> On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> about the overheating 240d
> 
> did you ever do a citric acid cleanse?
> 
> they all have a lot of crud in the cooling system
> 
> then i'd replace radiator and then water pump assuming the thermostat tests 
> good in boiling water
> thanks,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/02/2015 5:14 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:

So as you all know, I replaced that bitch of a hose under the thermostat 
housing a few days ago. I drove around town for a few days, no leaks from the 
new hose, no overheating. There was however a small amount of coolant loss from 
the rubber o ring that goes around the tstat and keeps the housing cover from 
leaking. I didn't make anything of it as that tstat has been in and out so many 
times that the seal is probably compressed.

Anyway, I need to get this car to MA where it's registered so that I can have 
it inspected-already received a fine in the mail.  So I head off to Boston 
today from Brunswick, Maine-roughly a 140 mile trip.

The car performed flawlessly, cruising at 65-70 mph, smooth, powerful, temp 
holding steady even in some stop and go traffic towards the tail end of the 
trip. I was so proud of the little 240D, when literally, as I pull into my 
driveway the temp gauge starts rising! So weird. I pop the hood, the upper rad 
hoses are super firm, coolant is dripping from rad overflow tube but my newly 
replaced hose is not leaking.

Well back to square one!



Once it cools enough that you can open the rad cap - it will be 
interesting to know how much coolant it has lost.

Could it have leaked enough to cause an issue?

Do you have  a pressure test rig to pressurize the system and see if it 
holds?


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oil cooler was replaced with an NOS one maybe 3 years ago.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

It's not bypassed or covered up. Would a plugged up oil cooler cause coolant 
temp to rise?

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> Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if someone 
>> has put cardboard in front of it?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up?

RB

On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if 
someone has put cardboard in front of it?


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if  
someone has put cardboard in front of it?


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I thought it was $2000 for all them.  

-Original Message-
From: G Mann [mailto:g2ma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:55 PM
To: Craig; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

Marionville is a small town outside of Springfield, Mo.

$3,000 for the set seems a bit much, since none run, one is missing an engine.

"slight rust" "ran when parked" "AC blows cold" ;))

OTOH, project cars of substance... perhaps..

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> > Where is  Marionville?
> >
> >
> > Michael E. Esh
> > 231 286 2344
>
> If you click the "reply button", you get a drop-down which lists the 
> phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is
>
>417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield
>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Southwest of Springfield, Missouri (my hometown) between Republic and Aurora.  

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To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

Where is  Marionville?


Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344


> On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
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> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I would think this could actually be a good deal.  Someone with the time, 
space, and skill could spend some sweat equity and they would come up with two 
240D's and a parts car.  

Don 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html
>
> Don Snook
>

Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Marionville is a small town outside of Springfield, Mo.

$3,000 for the set seems a bit much, since none run, one is missing an
engine.

"slight rust" "ran when parked" "AC blows cold" ;))

OTOH, project cars of substance... perhaps..

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Where is  Marionville?
> >
> >
> > Michael E. Esh
> > 231 286 2344
>
> If you click the "reply button", you get a drop-down which lists the
> phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is
>
>417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Where is  Marionville?
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 231 286 2344

If you click the "reply button", you get a drop-down which lists the
phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is

   417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Where is  Marionville?


Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344


> On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He won't separate the cars because they are litter mates.

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> On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html
>>
>> Don Snook
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>>
> Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html

Don Snook



Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Funny how pin striping is making a comeback. Those hipster dudes at Mercedes 
Motoring are really into preserving them as well. 



Sent from my iPhone

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>> I found the stripper who did these cars
> 
> Does he work in bow tie and G-string?  :-)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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Yes. It's an interesting color for sure. 

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> On Feb 1, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
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> 
> Same brown interior as Dimitri's-formerly Curt's formerly my  240D. Has
> white exterior
> On Feb 1, 2015 12:07 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
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> 
>> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
>>> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
>>> 
>>> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
>>> and
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
>>> 
>>> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
>>> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
>>> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He
>>> matches
>>> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the
>> number and common name is for it?
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That was quick. I guess there are other people who smoke crack.

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> On Feb 1, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> And... its sold!
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>> 
>> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
>> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
>> 
>> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
>> and
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
>> 
>> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
>> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
>> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
>> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jaime Kopchinski
>> http://www.jaimekop.com/
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Congrats.  It was a nice car.  I assume K'leb didn't buy it.  If I 
needed a car and had the bux, i'd rather pay $5k for a real car than 
for some 10 year old hunk o junk.


Kaleb should see what asking prices are on fleabay for 123 300Ds.

Did you by any chance get the interior code off it?  I am still 
curious what it was called/coded.


Congrats on the pinstripes too!

Does you wife mind you hanging out with a stripper?



And... its sold!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:


 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html

 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/

 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.


 > Jaime
 >


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Congratulations, and good job!  It’s always nice to know there are people price 
realistically.

Jon


> On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> 
> And... its sold!
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
>> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
>> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
>> 
>> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
>> and
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
>> 
>> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
>> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
>> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
>> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jaime Kopchinski
>> http://www.jaimekop.com/
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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And... its sold!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
>
> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
> and
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
>
> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> --
> Jaime Kopchinski
> http://www.jaimekop.com/
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Same brown interior as Dimitri's-formerly Curt's formerly my  240D. Has
white exterior
 On Feb 1, 2015 12:07 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
>> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
>>
>> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
>> and
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
>>
>> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
>> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
>> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He
>> matches
>> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>
>
> Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html

And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/

I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.

Jaime



Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the 
number and common name is for it?


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I found the stripper who did these cars


Does he work in bow tie and G-string?  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You are on crack. The paint does not even match. 

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> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
> 
> And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
> and
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
> 
> I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
> dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
> around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
> his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
> 
> Jaime
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D of toasters. WAS:The sweet taste of success

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

They give good speeches too

--R


On 1/18/15 4:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Toastmaster history.  More M&A than toasters, but there is some info 
there about the toasters and toaster ovens.  I never knew toastmaster 
made the first popup toaster.  Probably made the first toaster oven 
too.  They were very popular in the early 70s. (pre-microwave oven)


http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_history.html

Toaster.org has a virtual museum that is interesting.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D rust repair (yes again)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I was wondering if that was you...

Nice work!

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Be kind to the Southern Princess as we called her.
On Nov 5, 2014 5:25 PM, "dseretakis--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Thanks Curt!
> I need to invest a few days now to get this beauty driveable. Do I take
> the head off and tap out the head bolt holes or do the redneck thing and
> put a washer under the head bolts. Hmmm.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had
> formerly been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed
> flawlessly.
> >
> > We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's
> lovely 250(?)S.
> >
> > Curt
> > Seems like I should know the model of the car I'm in. Its a lovely car
> though...
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Re: [MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Thanks Curt!
I need to invest a few days now to get this beauty driveable. Do I take the 
head off and tap out the head bolt holes or do the redneck thing and put a 
washer under the head bolts. Hmmm.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had formerly 
> been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed flawlessly.
> 
> We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's lovely 
> 250(?)S.
> 
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D exhaust


The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear of 
the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further investigation 
led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put the 
car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put the hose 
clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then I 
will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when the 
patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Fmiser]

> Dieselhead wrote:
> 
> Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?
> 
> Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work?   In OK.

Hmm.  I'm highly curious.

The 240 I currently have on the road is running well but the body
metal keeps getting thinner.  Soon I'll need to do something...

Price?

Where in OK?

How quickly does he want to get rid of it?

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Mountain Man]

Craig wrote:
> I have the OM616 from our '82 240D, bolted to a manual transmission.
>

Road trip, Dieselhead?
I could visit family in the neighborhood and drive this puppy back to
you for you to use.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

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On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:40:33 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?
> 
> Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work?   In OK.

I have the OM616 from our '82 240D, bolted to a manual transmission.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Dieselhead]

Dieselhead wrote:

 Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?


Your mao-616 still runs?
mao


Ja, but I don't want to part with it or the car it is in.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Mountain Man]

Dieselhead wrote:
> Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?

Your mao-616 still runs?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Dieselhead]

Which transmission type?
--
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Auto trans

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Max Dillon]

Which transmission type?
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[WILTON]

'Never been air sick; close to it coupla times.  'Bout 50 years ago, I 
fought what I thought was airsickness nearly all night aboard a B-52G back 
and forth over the eastern US two or three times.  Never threw up; stayed on 
100% oxygen nearly the whole time; sometimes on 100% emergency (under 
pressure) oxygen blowing across my face inside loose mask.  'Finally got 
home about the time SWMBO and 3 children were getting up.  As I rushed 
through bedroom to the bathroom, SWMBO groaned from under the covers, "We're 
sick."  So I wasn't airsick after all.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Ritchey" 

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201




I always kept one in the left shoulder zipper pocket.  I never used it but
it was good to know it was there.


-Original Message-
From: WILTON
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:08 AM

Actually, I've flown very little and driven never with a seat back in
front
of me.  ;<)

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[WILTON]

Same here.

Wilt

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201



OK. I find that I don't get motion sickness when I'm doing the flying or
driving, it's when someone else is that I might get sick . . .


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:08 PM, WILTON  wrote:


Actually, I've flown very little and driven never with a seat back in
front of me.  ;<)

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[Scott Ritchey]

I always kept one in the left shoulder zipper pocket.  I never used it but
it was good to know it was there.

> -Original Message-
> From: WILTON
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:08 AM
> 
> Actually, I've flown very little and driven never with a seat back in
> front
> of me.  ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 



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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[OK Don]

OK. I find that I don't get motion sickness when I'm doing the flying or
driving, it's when someone else is that I might get sick . . .


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 11:08 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Actually, I've flown very little and driven never with a seat back in
> front of me.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> --
>
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[WILTON]

Actually, I've flown very little and driven never with a seat back in front 
of me.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201



In the pocket of the seat back in front of you ?


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 PM, WILTON  wrote:


Where IS that barf bag when I need it?

Wilt






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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[OK Don]

In the pocket of the seat back in front of you ?


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:58 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Where IS that barf bag when I need it?
>
> Wilt
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[WILTON]

Where IS that barf bag when I need it?

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201



Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Nah you don't want grandpas old lamer vehicle, you want an excitement 
machine with AMG enhancements

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-190E-1985/SSE-AD-2704701/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1


The rear spoiler (not to mention the front fender gills) is totally wrong, 
but is that a reasonable facsimile of an Evolution windsplitter on the 
back window?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[Hendrik and Fay]

Not sure but I think you can buy 'AMG' body kits off ebay (along with 
all the other junk on that car) I mentioned over at OzBenz that this 
could have been made into a nice looking car with that spoiler kit in 
the right colour but that green colour does not lend itself to looking 
sporty.
Even a white one can be made to look half reasonable 
http://mybuildgarage.com/2012/04/1989-mercedes-benz-190-w201-2-6l-restoredamg-body-kit-17-bbs-rs-wheels-coilovers-brabus-w124-500e-e30-m3-e34m5-era/


Hendrik
who has no body kit

On 24/03/14 11:38, Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Nah you don't want grandpas old lamer vehicle, you want an excitement 
machine with AMG enhancements
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-190E-1985/SSE-AD-2704701/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1 



The rear spoiler (not to mention the front fender gills) is totally 
wrong, but is that a reasonable facsimile of an Evolution windsplitter 
on the back window?


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Nah you don't want grandpas old lamer vehicle, you want an excitement 
machine with AMG enhancements
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-190E-1985/SSE-AD-2704701/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1 


The rear spoiler (not to mention the front fender gills) is totally wrong, but 
is that a reasonable facsimile of an Evolution windsplitter on the back window?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Alert! Or a sexy 201

[Hendrik and Fay]

Nah you don't want grandpas old lamer vehicle, you want an excitement 
machine with AMG enhancements

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mercedes-Benz-190E-1985/SSE-AD-2704701/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1
WARNING pictures in that ad may offend and cause illness and vomiting, 
please consult your physician before viewing this advert.


Hendrik
who is still picking chunks of last nights dinner out of the keyboard

On 24/03/14 06:57, Dan Penoff wrote:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1952578-1983-240d-sale-grandpas-car-orig.html#post8199034

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dwight Giles]

Yes looks good &  probably could negotiate the right price.  I am out of
driveway spacce  & spousal  permission. Thanks.
On Jan 20, 2014 7:50 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes they are scarce.
>
> Here is one that looks pretty good.
>
> http://ames.craigslist.org/cto/4226308794.html
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

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On 1/20/2014 7:36 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Thanks, Dwight.  I haven't seen any stick shift 240Ds advertised for 
a long time.

Gerry



That does look interesting.
Thanks,
Gerry

Have a look at this one

http://ames.craigslist.org/cto/4226308794.html

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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dieselhead]

Yes they are scarce.

Here is one that looks pretty good.

http://ames.craigslist.org/cto/4226308794.html

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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dieselhead]

Thanks, Dwight.  I haven't seen any stick shift 240Ds advertised for 
a long time.

Gerry


Have a look at this one

http://ames.craigslist.org/cto/4226308794.html

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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dwight Giles]

Yes they are scarce.  I sold my stick 240D to Curt because I fell in love
with a CD I had to have. Mixed decision.
On Jan 20, 2014 7:03 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
wrote:

> Thanks, Dwight.  I haven't seen any stick shift 240Ds advertised for a
> long time.
> Gerry
>
> On 1/20/2014 9:18 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>
>> There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k.
>> Don't
>> recall if it was stick etc.
>> On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>  Not much unless in really nice shape.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
>>> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,

>>> manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?
>>>
 Gerry

 On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

> Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but
>
 had
>>>
 winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for
>
 the 90
>>>
 300D.
> On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
>
>  I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
>> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK
>>
> it's
>>>
 not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive
>>
> sedan
>>>
 it does really well.
>> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my
>>
> garage
>>>
 build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool
>>
> in
>>>
 Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in
>>
> serious
>>>
 booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
>> basically define the entire town.
>> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N
>>
> going
>>>
 inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and
>>
> there
>>>
 was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of
>>
> long
>>>
 and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get
>>
> very
>>>
 nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway
>>
> into
>>>
 it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it
>>
> about
>>>
 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
>> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
>> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no
>>
> luck. I
>>>
 then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a
>>
> few
>>>
 feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple
>>
> of
>>>
 times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat
>>
> up the
>>>
 hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

Thanks, Dwight.  I haven't seen any stick shift 240Ds advertised for a 
long time.

Gerry

On 1/20/2014 9:18 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:

There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k. Don't
recall if it was stick etc.
On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:


Not much unless in really nice shape.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:


I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,

manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?

Gerry

On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but

had

winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for

the 90

300D.
On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:


I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK

it's

not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive

sedan

it does really well.
So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my

garage

build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool

in

Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in

serious

booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
basically define the entire town.
The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N

going

inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and

there

was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of

long

and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get

very

nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway

into

it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it

about

2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no

luck. I

then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a

few

feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple

of

times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat

up the

hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dieselhead]

There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k. Don't
recall if it was stick etc.
On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:


I sent yall a CL listing for good looking 3 pedal 240D a couple weeks 
ago.  I thought it was worth the money if ya want a nice 3 pedal 240D


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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Curt Raymond]

A couple years ago I had to spend some time in Johnstown, PA. It was October 
and snowed the whole time I was there, never snowed much but it was constant. 
Johnstown is very hilly and full of old people. The old people would get going 
up a hill and get scared and slow down losing all that valuable momentum, then 
a lot of them would spin out.

We had a Mercury something rental car that was surprisingly excellent in the 
snow...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:22:35 -0500
From: Larry T 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Speaking f snow and hills -
My wife was coming home from work last year (91 300D) on fresh snow - 
her tires were due for replacement but were still doing the job until 
she started up a slight incline behind another car.  All was well until 
the leading car decided to slow down - my wife had to do the same and 
lost momentum. She was very irritated at the driver in the lead ...

Sincerely,
Larry
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[WILTON]

Black, sunroof, auto; gonna hafta let it go.

Wilt

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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow



It's an automatic.

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/4235915781.html

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On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k. 
Don't

recall if it was stick etc.
On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:


Not much unless in really nice shape.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:


I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,

manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?

Gerry

On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but

had

winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for

the 90

300D.
On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:


I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! 
OK

it's

not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive

sedan

it does really well.
So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my

garage
build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty 
Tool

in

Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in

serious

booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
basically define the entire town.
The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N

going

inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and

there
was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full 
of

long

and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get

very

nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway

into

it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it

about
2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided 
to
back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as 
I

didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no

luck. I
then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress 
a

few
feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a 
couple

of

times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat

up the

hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dwight Giles]

Yes that's the one. Put M1 ATF in it.
On Jan 20, 2014 12:12 PM,  wrote:

> It's an automatic.
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/4235915781.html
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> > There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k.
> Don't
> > recall if it was stick etc.
> > On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >> Not much unless in really nice shape.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
> >> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,
> >> manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>> On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>  Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but
> >> had
>  winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for
> >> the 90
>  300D.
>  On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
> > tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow!
> OK
> >> it's
> > not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive
> >> sedan
> > it does really well.
> > So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my
> >> garage
> > build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty
> Tool
> >> in
> > Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in
> >> serious
> > booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
> > basically define the entire town.
> > The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N
> >> going
> > inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and
> >> there
> > was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full
> of
> >> long
> > and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get
> >> very
> > nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway
> >> into
> > it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it
> >> about
> > 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided
> to
> > back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as
> I
> > didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no
> >> luck. I
> > then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress
> a
> >> few
> > feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a
> couple
> >> of
> > times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat
> >> up the
> > hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

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It's an automatic.

http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/4235915781.html

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On Jan 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k. Don't
> recall if it was stick etc.
> On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Not much unless in really nice shape.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
>> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,
>> manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but
>> had
 winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for
>> the 90
 300D.
 On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
 
> I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK
>> it's
> not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive
>> sedan
> it does really well.
> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my
>> garage
> build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool
>> in
> Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in
>> serious
> booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
> basically define the entire town.
> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N
>> going
> inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and
>> there
> was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of
>> long
> and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get
>> very
> nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway
>> into
> it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it
>> about
> 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no
>> luck. I
> then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a
>> few
> feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple
>> of
> times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat
>> up the
> hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

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There was a supposedly 1 owner nice on RI CL  a few weeks ago for 5k. Don't
recall if it was stick etc.
On Jan 19, 2014 11:34 PM,  wrote:

> Not much unless in really nice shape.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
> arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift,
> manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?
> > Gerry
> >
> > On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >> Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but
> had
> >> winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for
> the 90
> >> 300D.
> >> On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
> >>> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK
> it's
> >>> not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive
> sedan
> >>> it does really well.
> >>> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my
> garage
> >>> build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool
> in
> >>> Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in
> serious
> >>> booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
> >>> basically define the entire town.
> >>> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N
> going
> >>> inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and
> there
> >>> was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of
> long
> >>> and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get
> very
> >>> nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway
> into
> >>> it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it
> about
> >>> 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
> >>> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
> >>> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no
> luck. I
> >>> then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a
> few
> >>> feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple
> of
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> up the
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Larry T]

Speaking f snow and hills -
My wife was coming home from work last year (91 300D) on fresh snow - 
her tires were due for replacement but were still doing the job until 
she started up a slight incline behind another car.  All was well until 
the leading car decided to slow down - my wife had to do the same and 
lost momentum. She was very irritated at the driver in the lead ...


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/19/2014 11:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Thanks. It was a tense yet exciting experience.

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On Jan 19, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:


Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but had
winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for the 90
300D.
On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:


I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK it's
not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive sedan
it does really well.
So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my garage
build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool in
Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in serious
booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
basically define the entire town.
The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N going
inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and there
was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of long
and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get very
nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway into
it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it about
2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no luck. I
then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a few
feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple of
times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat up the
hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[dseretakis]

Not much unless in really nice shape.

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On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:45 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
 wrote:

> I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift, manual 
> windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?
> Gerry
> 
> On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but had
>> winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for the 90
>> 300D.
>> On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
>>> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK it's
>>> not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive sedan
>>> it does really well.
>>> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my garage
>>> build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool in
>>> Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in serious
>>> booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
>>> basically define the entire town.
>>> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N going
>>> inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and there
>>> was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of long
>>> and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get very
>>> nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway into
>>> it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it about
>>> 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
>>> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
>>> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no luck. I
>>> then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a few
>>> feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple of
>>> times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat up the
>>> hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[dseretakis]

Thanks. It was a tense yet exciting experience.

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On Jan 19, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but had
> winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for the 90
> 300D.
> On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
>> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK it's
>> not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive sedan
>> it does really well.
>> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my garage
>> build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool in
>> Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in serious
>> booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
>> basically define the entire town.
>> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N going
>> inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and there
>> was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of long
>> and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get very
>> nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway into
>> it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it about
>> 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
>> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
>> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no luck. I
>> then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a few
>> feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple of
>> times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat up the
>> hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

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I wonder what one of those would sell for in that area?  Stick shift, 
manual windows, manual A/C and heat, etc.?

Gerry

On 1/19/2014 8:27 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but had
winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for the 90
300D.
On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:


I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK it's
not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive sedan
it does really well.
So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my garage
build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool in
Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in serious
booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
basically define the entire town.
The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N going
inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and there
was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of long
and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get very
nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway into
it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it about
2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no luck. I
then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a few
feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple of
times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat up the
hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D in the snow

[Dwight Giles]

Great testimonial Dimitri.  Makes me miss my 79 240D.  It was auto but had
winter studs on all 4 corners.  Have never had this extreme test for the 90
300D.
On Jan 19, 2014 7:35 PM,  wrote:

> I've said it before but I want to say it again. The 240D with a manny
> tranny and Michelin harmony all season tires kicks ass in the snow! OK it's
> not an all wheel drive Subie or anything but for a rear wheel drive sedan
> it does really well.
> So it was snowing here today up in Maine and I couldn't work on my garage
> build so instead I decided to make the 1 plus hr drive to Liberty Tool in
> Liberty, Maine. This is a tiny town 20 miles inland. Basically, in serious
> booneyville. This used/antique tool store and its associated museum
> basically define the entire town.
> The drive up Rt. 1 went just fine but once I turned left onto 220N going
> inland I was in for a surprise. The road had not yet been plowed and there
> was about four inches of wet snow on this 20 mile long stretch full of long
> and fairly steep inclines. I went with my GF and she started to get very
> nervous. I made it up most of the hills just fine until about halfway into
> it I hit this long steep hill. I knew I was in for trouble. I made it about
> 2/3 of the way up but that was it. I had no more traction. I decided to
> back all the way down and try again a bit faster but not too fast as I
> didn't want to end up in a ditch on the side of the road. Still no luck. I
> then decided to back up slightly and try again. I made some progress a few
> feet at a time then I got stuck again, backed up and repeated a couple of
> times until I reached the point where the car was able to billy goat up the
> hill at 1/2 mile per hour in first gear! Phew! I love this car!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Dieselhead]

My battery in the 300D that tested bad was from Oreally, back when 
they had good prices and good warranty.  It had a shipping sticker 
from the warehouse dated apr, 2006 and they said I bought it in May, 
2006.  So it is 7 1/2 yrs old.  Still started the car and seemed just 
fine.  I am going to see if it holds up in the tractor.  It is a 6v 
starter, so if the battery only has 10.x volts, it should still spin 
the tractor engine fast.  (grp 49)


I had a motrocraft in the escort that lasted over 8 years.  (grp 49)

I never had a dieeasy last more than a year or two.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Dwight Giles]

That's good information for me to file away.
On Jan 2, 2014 2:46 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> While it's not a Group 49, I bought an Autozone battery for the wife's
> 2005 Mazda 6s in 2009 or 2010 and Autozone has replaced it twice without
> prorating the cost.  Beats me why, but the first time it wasn't that old,
> maybe a year and a half, and the second time was maybe six months ago.  It
> died on her, she got the car jumped and went right to an Autozone (smart
> girl!)
>
> She said she just pulled in, told them their battery was dead, they tested
> it and popped a new one in in a matter of minutes.  No charge.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>
> > I got an Autozone by default two years ago Christmas Eve when I was  in
> > maine. Only group 49 available.  It has stayed strong even a few weeks
> sgo
> > when GP's were shot. I will let you know in 5 years. This is the 90 300D.
> > On Jan 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" <
> arche...@embarqmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Dan Penoff]

While it's not a Group 49, I bought an Autozone battery for the wife's 2005 
Mazda 6s in 2009 or 2010 and Autozone has replaced it twice without prorating 
the cost.  Beats me why, but the first time it wasn't that old, maybe a year 
and a half, and the second time was maybe six months ago.  It died on her, she 
got the car jumped and went right to an Autozone (smart girl!)

She said she just pulled in, told them their battery was dead, they tested it 
and popped a new one in in a matter of minutes.  No charge.

Dan


On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

> I got an Autozone by default two years ago Christmas Eve when I was  in
> maine. Only group 49 available.  It has stayed strong even a few weeks sgo
> when GP's were shot. I will let you know in 5 years. This is the 90 300D.
> On Jan 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
> wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Dwight Giles]

I got an Autozone by default two years ago Christmas Eve when I was  in
maine. Only group 49 available.  It has stayed strong even a few weeks sgo
when GP's were shot. I will let you know in 5 years. This is the 90 300D.
On Jan 2, 2014 1:04 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
wrote:

> I had one that lasted less than two years.  I ate the pro-rate and have
> mostly used A-zone since with good results.
> Gerry
>
> On 12/31/2013 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
>> I had one of the Bosch batteries you describe in my 82 300SD.  Worked
>> great, fit perfectly, and lasted a long time.
>>
>> Still probably made in Milwaukee by Johnson Controls like darned near
>> every other battery is, but it did the job.
>>
>> Glad it worked out for you!
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:49 AM, John Ingram wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Everyone.
>>>
>>> A while ago I put a note on the list about finding a battery for my
>>> 240D.  I got a lot of good advice as always from the list (Thank you).  My
>>> problem was that some of the batteries had lower CCA than I wanted.  Also,
>>> the big parts stores say "yes, we have it" but they don't HAVE it.  I need
>>> to travel to the far away store that does have it.  The Sears website does
>>> not work on my computer etc.  I called the old run-down service center and
>>> parts store Pep Boys and they had a Bosch Premium battery in the store.
>>>  1000CA at 32 degrees and 850 CCA and a good warranty.  For $113.  I have a
>>> battery that fits perfectly and spins the engine faster than any battery
>>> I've ever had in the car.  The old diesel springs to life in mid 20s temps.
>>>  It all worked out well.  They would have put it in for me but of course,
>>> the car wouldn't run.
>>>
>>> A very Happy New Year to all!
>>>
>>> John Ingram
>>> 83  240D  309K
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I had one that lasted less than two years.  I ate the pro-rate and have 
mostly used A-zone since with good results.

Gerry

On 12/31/2013 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I had one of the Bosch batteries you describe in my 82 300SD.  Worked great, 
fit perfectly, and lasted a long time.

Still probably made in Milwaukee by Johnson Controls like darned near every 
other battery is, but it did the job.

Glad it worked out for you!

Dan

On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:49 AM, John Ingram wrote:


Hello Everyone.

A while ago I put a note on the list about finding a battery for my 240D.  I got a lot of 
good advice as always from the list (Thank you).  My problem was that some of the 
batteries had lower CCA than I wanted.  Also, the big parts stores say "yes, we have 
it" but they don't HAVE it.  I need to travel to the far away store that does have 
it.  The Sears website does not work on my computer etc.  I called the old run-down 
service center and parts store Pep Boys and they had a Bosch Premium battery in the 
store.  1000CA at 32 degrees and 850 CCA and a good warranty.  For $113.  I have a 
battery that fits perfectly and spins the engine faster than any battery I've ever had in 
the car.  The old diesel springs to life in mid 20s temps.  It all worked out well.  They 
would have put it in for me but of course, the car wouldn't run.

A very Happy New Year to all!

John Ingram
83  240D  309K

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery reportynutyqu5

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:

Most of the 49s I see lately are $140-150. Not buying that unless I've 
got a $50

coupon from Advance Auto parts to turn $144 for their Gold model into $94.

The 93s are often much cheaper, and I have no idea why, unless the 49s are
turning into a specialty battery for rare antique mbz.


A little browsing at Autozone shows that most of their batteries are now "H8", 
which has 3/8" less length and 1/16" more width than a Group 49/93.
That 1/16" might be a problem in some cars, like W201. It's a wrestling match 
for me to get a Group 49 Interstate Megatron in or out of a 190D.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery reportynutyqu5

[Mitch Haley]

John Ingram wrote:

Hello Everyone.

A while ago I put a note on the list about finding a battery for my 
240D.  I got a lot of good advice as always from the list (Thank you).  
My problem was that some of the batteries had lower CCA than I wanted.  
Also, the big parts stores say "yes, we have it" but they don't HAVE 
it.  I need to travel to the far away store that does have it.  The 
Sears website does not work on my computer etc.  I called the old 
run-down service center and parts store Pep Boys and they had a Bosch 
Premium battery in the store.  1000CA at 32 degrees and 850 CCA and a 
good warranty.  For $113. 


Is that a group 49 or 93?

Most of the 49s I see lately are $140-150. Not buying that unless I've got a $50
coupon from Advance Auto parts to turn $144 for their Gold model into $94.

The 93s are often much cheaper, and I have no idea why, unless the 49s are
turning into a specialty battery for rare antique mbz.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

ATTABOY!

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> On Dec 31, 2013, at 10:49 AM, John Ingram  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone.
> 
> A while ago I put a note on the list about finding a battery for my 240D.  I 
> got a lot of good advice as always from the list (Thank you).  My problem was 
> that some of the batteries had lower CCA than I wanted.  Also, the big parts 
> stores say "yes, we have it" but they don't HAVE it.  I need to travel to the 
> far away store that does have it.  The Sears website does not work on my 
> computer etc.  I called the old run-down service center and parts store Pep 
> Boys and they had a Bosch Premium battery in the store.  1000CA at 32 degrees 
> and 850 CCA and a good warranty.  For $113.  I have a battery that fits 
> perfectly and spins the engine faster than any battery I've ever had in the 
> car.  The old diesel springs to life in mid 20s temps.  It all worked out 
> well.  They would have put it in for me but of course, the car wouldn't run.
> 
> A very Happy New Year to all!
> 
> John Ingram
> 83  240D  309K
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery report

[Dan Penoff]

I had one of the Bosch batteries you describe in my 82 300SD.  Worked great, 
fit perfectly, and lasted a long time.

Still probably made in Milwaukee by Johnson Controls like darned near every 
other battery is, but it did the job.

Glad it worked out for you!

Dan

On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:49 AM, John Ingram wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> 
> A while ago I put a note on the list about finding a battery for my 240D.  I 
> got a lot of good advice as always from the list (Thank you).  My problem was 
> that some of the batteries had lower CCA than I wanted.  Also, the big parts 
> stores say "yes, we have it" but they don't HAVE it.  I need to travel to the 
> far away store that does have it.  The Sears website does not work on my 
> computer etc.  I called the old run-down service center and parts store Pep 
> Boys and they had a Bosch Premium battery in the store.  1000CA at 32 degrees 
> and 850 CCA and a good warranty.  For $113.  I have a battery that fits 
> perfectly and spins the engine faster than any battery I've ever had in the 
> car.  The old diesel springs to life in mid 20s temps.  It all worked out 
> well.  They would have put it in for me but of course, the car wouldn't run.
> 
> A very Happy New Year to all!
> 
> John Ingram
> 83  240D  309K
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Scott Ritchey]

This is probably not your problem but ...

I once had a 79 300TD (non turbo) with the single alternator belt.  After an
alternator R&R the belt kept getting loose, and quickly too.  So much so
that I had a battery charging problem.  It turned out the problem was a burr
on the alternator pulley which was chewing rubber off the belt (this was a
self-inflicted problem).  I filed off and polished out the burr and never
had another problem.




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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Peter Frederick]

Keeping a Benz out of the salt is never a bad thing, but I'd check to  
make sure you have good pulleys and that you are not missing a spacer  
under the one on the alternator or something -- verify that the belt  
runs exactly true.


Might pull the swivel bolt and make sure it's not badly worn, too, as  
this would cause the alternator to sit at an angle to the belt.  That  
will wear it out in no time.


Also worth checking for something silly like a water pump pulley  
installed wrong way 'round -- this was eating the serpentine belt on  
my brother's 300E, it was just about exactly one rib offset.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

Guess it will get saved from a year of salt duty.

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Nothin', its sitting beside the garage. Theres a known good head I need to go 
> pick up, then in the spring when its warmer try installing it.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:38:45 -0500
> From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal
> Message-ID: <86037abb-8662-41c9-8e24-e44db1a08...@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii
> 
> Glad to hear its not just my car. What's going on with your 240D BTW?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
>> Which reminds me, didn't the 300D have a double belt to the alternator? I've 
>> always wondered why but this could explain it I suppose. Maybe they figured 
>> 240D owners ought to be doing more maintenance?
>>  
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

All hardware is in place. I adjust according to the BBB. Makes no difference.

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> My first experience with the screw-type I kept having the
> belt get loose.  Eventually I figured out that the PO had
> lost the top bolt, and that _only_ the tensioner adjustment
> was holding it in place.  Once I replaced the top bolt the
> problem went away.  (Unlock top, adjust tension, lock.)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Jim Cathey]

My first experience with the screw-type I kept having the
belt get loose.  Eventually I figured out that the PO had
lost the top bolt, and that _only_ the tensioner adjustment
was holding it in place.  Once I replaced the top bolt the
problem went away.  (Unlock top, adjust tension, lock.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Curt Raymond]

My experience was with an '83 and a '78, both kinds of tensioners, new and old 
belts over a period of about 8 years...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 19:41:22 -0700
From: Craig 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:16:31 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> Dunno but they all do it. I got so I tightened every old change which
> was every other month when I was commuting a lot. A new belt helps a
> little but only until you let it squeal once...

I never had any belt-loosening problems when we had the OM616 engine in
our '82 240D. Are you sure you have the correct clamping hardware for the
alternator tension?


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Curt Raymond]

Nothin', its sitting beside the garage. Theres a known good head I need to go 
pick up, then in the spring when its warmer try installing it.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:38:45 -0500
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal
Message-ID: <86037abb-8662-41c9-8e24-e44db1a08...@yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii

Glad to hear its not just my car. What's going on with your 240D BTW?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Which reminds me, didn't the 300D have a double belt to the alternator? I've 
> always wondered why but this could explain it I suppose. Maybe they figured 
> 240D owners ought to be doing more maintenance?
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

I'm not sure. How could I tell if adjuster is working back in? Put a mark next 
to exposed thread?

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at least twice a 
>> year and it likes to loosen up.
> 
> Is it belt stretch/wear, or is the adjuster working back in?
> Excessive vibration can cause loosening.  Things like a bad
> diode, damaged pulley, etc.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Jim Cathey]

I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at least 
twice a year and it likes to loosen up.


Is it belt stretch/wear, or is the adjuster working back in?
Excessive vibration can cause loosening.  Things like a bad
diode, damaged pulley, etc.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

It has the whimpy alternator.
I will check pulleys for wear.

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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> belt squeal on 240Ds.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

My alternator is fine. It was replaced one year ago.

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On Dec 26, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> Your alternator is going bad -- my old 22D did that, and when I took it in to 
> get it fixed (it eventually stopped charging well) all I got back was the 
> case.  Bearings were shot and the rotor was eating the stator, caused huge 
> amounts of drag and therefore wearing the belt out.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

Yes hardware is correct. Car was dealer serviced till I bought it. I didn't 
change anything to make it wrong.

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On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:16:31 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
>  wrote:
> 
>> Dunno but they all do it. I got so I tightened every old change which
>> was every other month when I was commuting a lot. A new belt helps a
>> little but only until you let it squeal once...
> 
> I never had any belt-loosening problems when we had the OM616 engine in
> our '82 240D. Are you sure you have the correct clamping hardware for the
> alternator tension?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[dseretakis]

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>> I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at
>> least twice a year and it likes to loosen up.
> 
>> Why is this happening?
> 
> No additional data - huh?  So all we know is a OM616 that the belt
> slips.
> 
> What year?  

82
> 
> What style tensioner?  (rack and pinion, or "L" bolt

L bolt

> 
> What have you tried?

Keep tightening L bolt

> 
> Is the mount straight?

Not sure
> 
> Is the alternator pulley warped?

Not sure
> 
> Is the crankshaft pulley secure?

I think so
> 
> --  Philip, doing a _lot_ of guessing
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Dieselhead]

 >>

I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at least twice

a year and >>it likes to loosen up. This is getting old and the squeal is
grating on my nerves and >>probably my neighbor's too (ask Jon).?


Why is this happening?


 >>Sent from my MBPhone


I have tried to use continental belts and never really had a problem 
with belt squeal on 240Ds.


Loose, broken brackets or adjusters could be the cause, although by 
1980 the brackets were robust and didn't break.


Did someone put a high amp alternator on it?  The 300D turbo has a 
higher amp alternator.  That would/could cause the single belt to 
slip.


if none of the above, then worn pulley/pulleys are likely the 
culprit.  The alt pulley would be the more likely culprit.


Since the belt is 5 yrs old, try a new belt, but DO look at the wear 
points in the pulleys.  the sides should be straight.  If there are 
grooves worn in the sides of the pulleys, replace.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Peter Frederick]

Your alternator is going bad -- my old 22D did that, and when I took  
it in to get it fixed (it eventually stopped charging well) all I got  
back was the case.  Bearings were shot and the rotor was eating the  
stator, caused huge amounts of drag and therefore wearing the belt out.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Scott Ritchey]

The 617 turbos had dual alternator belts.

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

Which reminds me, didn't the 300D have a double belt to the alternator? I've
always wondered why but this could explain it I suppose. Maybe they figured
240D owners ought to be doing more maintenance?

-Curt

>Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:16:31 -0800 (PST)
>From: Curt Raymond 
>To: Diesel List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal
>Message-ID:
>    <1388106991.6282.yahoomail...@web160403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Dunno but they all do it. I got so I tightened every old change which was
every other >month when I was commuting a lot. A new belt helps a little but
only until you let it >squeal once...
>
>-Curt
>
>>Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:51:31 -0500
>>From:?dsereta...@yahoo.com
>>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>Subject: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal
>>Message-ID: <248783b2-13e7-491e-a2d4-6ffeeea5f...@yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset=us-ascii
>>
>>I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at least twice
a year and >>it likes to loosen up. This is getting old and the squeal is
grating on my nerves and >>probably my neighbor's too (ask Jon).?
>>
>>Why is this happening?
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 240D belt squeal

[Fmiser]

> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> I keeps coming back, alternator belt. I keep tightening it at
> least twice a year and it likes to loosen up. 

> Why is this happening?

No additional data - huh?  So all we know is a OM616 that the belt
slips.

What year?  

What style tensioner?  (rack and pinion, or "L" bolt)

What have you tried?

Is the mount straight?

Is the alternator pulley warped?

Is the crankshaft pulley secure?

--  Philip, doing a _lot_ of guessing

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