Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
I love the NADA Classic Cars prices!!  My 300TD wagons just doubled in
value.  :)

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:35 AM, John Reames  wrote:

> Make 'em use NADA classics; you will be surprised; average retail is 6750,
> high retail is 9000.
>
>
> http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1984/Mercedes-Benz/300D-T/4-Door-Sedan/Values
>
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> On May 2, 2011, at 22:55, Allan Streib  wrote:
>
> > Mike Esh  writes:
> >
> >> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the
> >> insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer.  It has
> >> 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint,
> >> suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces.  What is
> >> the best way to establish value?  Thanks in advance, Mike
> >
> > My experience is that with auto insurance, for a total loss they will
> > pretty readily make an offer that's about at "book value" or maybe a bit
> > more.  Which is fine if the car is new enough that there is a reasonable
> > book value to be found.  For a 27 year old car, no such luck.  They'll
> > probably value the car a bit over its scrap value, which is why I only
> > carry liability on my old cars; I'm willing to accept the risk of a
> > total loss on a car that I could replace for a couple of thousand, tops.
> >
> > However, there are a few online "classic car" pricing guides.  I tried
> > NADA's "Classic Car" guide and for my 1983 300D it came up with the
> > following pricing:
> >
> > Low Retail: $4,750
> > Average Retail: $6,600
> > High Retail: $8,850
> >
> > These numbers seem to me to be pure fantasy, but I'd run the quote for
> > your car and take it in  what can you lose?
> >
> > Also try to document any other recent sales or ads, e.g. eBay,
> > Craigslist, etc.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-04 Thread John Reames
Make 'em use NADA classics; you will be surprised; average retail is 6750, high 
retail is 9000.

http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1984/Mercedes-Benz/300D-T/4-Door-Sedan/Values

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On May 2, 2011, at 22:55, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Mike Esh  writes:
> 
>> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the
>> insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer.  It has
>> 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint,
>> suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces.  What is
>> the best way to establish value?  Thanks in advance, Mike
> 
> My experience is that with auto insurance, for a total loss they will
> pretty readily make an offer that's about at "book value" or maybe a bit
> more.  Which is fine if the car is new enough that there is a reasonable
> book value to be found.  For a 27 year old car, no such luck.  They'll
> probably value the car a bit over its scrap value, which is why I only
> carry liability on my old cars; I'm willing to accept the risk of a
> total loss on a car that I could replace for a couple of thousand, tops.
> 
> However, there are a few online "classic car" pricing guides.  I tried
> NADA's "Classic Car" guide and for my 1983 300D it came up with the
> following pricing:
> 
> Low Retail: $4,750
> Average Retail: $6,600
> High Retail: $8,850
> 
> These numbers seem to me to be pure fantasy, but I'd run the quote for
> your car and take it in  what can you lose?
> 
> Also try to document any other recent sales or ads, e.g. eBay,
> Craigslist, etc.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Allan
> -- 
> 1983 300D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-03 Thread Mike Esh

Yes she did.  And yes, yes I do.  Actually, I don't' normally but for some 
reason at the last renewal i added it back on.

Michael Esh
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On May 02, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:


So she rear ended somebody and it was her fault, right? you carry full coverage 
on a 84 300d with 300k miles?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:

> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance will 
total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it and is in 
very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts 
and pieces. What is the best way to establish value?
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-03 Thread Mike Esh

Thanks for the help.


Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461
michael...@mac.com
(H) 231.894.5505
(Cell) 231.286.2344





On May 02, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:


Mike Esh  writes:

> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the
> insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has
> 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint,
> suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What is
> the best way to establish value? Thanks in advance, Mike

My experience is that with auto insurance, for a total loss they will
pretty readily make an offer that's about at "book value" or maybe a bit
more. Which is fine if the car is new enough that there is a reasonable
book value to be found. For a 27 year old car, no such luck. They'll
probably value the car a bit over its scrap value, which is why I only
carry liability on my old cars; I'm willing to accept the risk of a
total loss on a car that I could replace for a couple of thousand, tops.

However, there are a few online "classic car" pricing guides. I tried
NADA's "Classic Car" guide and for my 1983 300D it came up with the
following pricing:

Low Retail: $4,750
Average Retail: $6,600
High Retail: $8,850

These numbers seem to me to be pure fantasy, but I'd run the quote for
your car and take it in  what can you lose?

Also try to document any other recent sales or ads, e.g. eBay,
Craigslist, etc.

Good luck.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-03 Thread Mike Esh

Thanks for the info.  I will begin my home work today.  And yes, I was happy 
she was driving the Mercedes.  No injuries.

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461
michael...@mac.com
(H) 231.894.5505
(Cell) 231.286.2344





On May 02, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


Ouch! But I gather the 300D did its job and protected your daughter.
Best way to establish value is to find actual sales in the area ($)
you think it is worth.

Second best : It is also good to look at ads in the back of the Star
for high values. And autotrader, cars.com or fleabay for what Kleb
calls crack hads with high value. My insco took three fleabay ads as
credible valuation that the car was worth more than $4500 worth of
repairs. YMMV



>Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the
>insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has
>300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint,
>suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces. What
>is the best way to establish value?
>Thanks in advance,
>Mike
>
>Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have a very nice 1985 300D drive train (engine + transmission) if you're
interested...  I'm selling the pair for $950 + freight.



On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> Check out your state's guidelines on this.  My son was hit (other driver's
> fault) while driving our 84 300D turbo.  Their insurance co. lowballed us
> on
> the appraisal.  I researched and eventually got them to do a different
> appraisal that gave us fair value.
>
> As another stated the appraisal should be based on comparable recent sales.
> Recent restoration costs can also be used as evidence with a car of this
> age.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Mike Esh
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 7:30 PM
> To: okie benz
> Subject: [MBZ] Crash 300D
>
> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the insurance
> will total it and come in with a low ball offer.   It has 300,000 mile on
> it
> and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half
> shafts,
> various parts and pieces.  What is the best way to establish value?
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-03 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Check out your state's guidelines on this.  My son was hit (other driver's
fault) while driving our 84 300D turbo.  Their insurance co. lowballed us on
the appraisal.  I researched and eventually got them to do a different
appraisal that gave us fair value.

As another stated the appraisal should be based on comparable recent sales.
Recent restoration costs can also be used as evidence with a car of this
age.

Good luck!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Mike Esh
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 7:30 PM
To: okie benz
Subject: [MBZ] Crash 300D

Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the insurance
will total it and come in with a low ball offer.   It has 300,000 mile on it
and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts,
various parts and pieces.  What is the best way to establish value?  
Thanks in advance,
Mike

Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-02 Thread Michael Canfield
Local ads for cars in similar condition.  Insurance companies use classified
ads for older cars and will lowball you with prices from every junk car in
your area.  Show them ads for similar cars and prove your point with photos
and receipts.

Mike
On May 2, 2011 10:29 PM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:
> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D. I anticipate the insurance
will total it and come in with a low ball offer. It has 300,000 mile on it
and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts,
various parts and pieces. What is the best way to establish value?
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-02 Thread Allan Streib
Mike Esh  writes:

> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the
> insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer.  It has
> 300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint,
> suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces.  What is
> the best way to establish value?  Thanks in advance, Mike

My experience is that with auto insurance, for a total loss they will
pretty readily make an offer that's about at "book value" or maybe a bit
more.  Which is fine if the car is new enough that there is a reasonable
book value to be found.  For a 27 year old car, no such luck.  They'll
probably value the car a bit over its scrap value, which is why I only
carry liability on my old cars; I'm willing to accept the risk of a
total loss on a car that I could replace for a couple of thousand, tops.

However, there are a few online "classic car" pricing guides.  I tried
NADA's "Classic Car" guide and for my 1983 300D it came up with the
following pricing:

Low Retail: $4,750
Average Retail: $6,600
High Retail: $8,850

These numbers seem to me to be pure fantasy, but I'd run the quote for
your car and take it in  what can you lose?

Also try to document any other recent sales or ads, e.g. eBay,
Craigslist, etc.

Good luck.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-02 Thread Dieselhead

Ouch!  But I gather the 300D did its job and protected your daughter.
Best way to establish value is to find actual sales in the area ($) 
you think it is worth.


Second best : It is also good to look at ads in the back of the Star 
for high values.  And autotrader, cars.com or fleabay for what Kleb 
calls crack hads with high value.  My insco took three fleabay ads as 
credible valuation that the car was worth more than $4500 worth of 
repairs.  YMMV




Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the 
insurance will total it and come in with a low ball offer.   It has 
300,000 mile on it and is in very good condition, new paint, 
suspension, rear end, half shafts, various parts and pieces.  What 
is the best way to establish value? 
Thanks in advance,

Mike

Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Btw the insurance company does not care about new parts, those are required for 
the to run

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On May 2, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:

> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the insurance 
> will total it and come in with a low ball offer.   It has 300,000 mile on it 
> and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, 
> various parts and pieces.  What is the best way to establish value?  
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Crash 300D

2011-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So she rear ended somebody and it was her fault, right? you carry full coverage 
on a 84 300d with 300k miles?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:

> Daughter rear ended a truck with the 84 300D.  I anticipate the insurance 
> will total it and come in with a low ball offer.   It has 300,000 mile on it 
> and is in very good condition, new paint, suspension, rear end, half shafts, 
> various parts and pieces.  What is the best way to establish value?  
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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