Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 21, 2012 6:42 PM,  wrote:
>
> Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in?
>

Good question.  Didn't occur to me to check 'em.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread r
Hey Alex, what shape are your door seals in?

R


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
From: Alex Chamberlain 
Date: Fri, December 21, 2012 9:14 pm
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On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:
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> How are your Mercedes all working?
>
>

It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that
when I
get back to the 300D I'll have to bail it out before I can drive it--it
has
a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I
can't
figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 21, 2012 5:49 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:
>
>  How are your Mercedes all working?
>
>

The 124 is parked while I drive SWMBO's Subaru trying to diagnose an
intermittent problem--symptoms are periodic jerky unintended deceleration,
like fuel starvation or an ignition issue.

It has been raining like crazy here (NW Oregon) and I'm worried that when I
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a water leak into the front and rear floors on the right side that I can't
figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread G Mann
According to the words of the "commander in chief" this is "workplace
violence" not an act of terror.  As "workplace violence" it is treated
differently and those murdered victims families are denied veterans
benefits. As an "act of war by a terrorist" they would be KIA with full
benefits.

Yet another reason why I, as a veteran, took an oath to the Constitution
not to the commander, to protect and defend from ALL enemies, foreign and
domestic.

That oath can not be un-taken.

How are your Mercedes all working?

Grant...

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:

> Is this not a Court Marshall?  Is he not a soldier first just like any
> other soldier?  He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules
> of appearance.  Will he appear in court in uniform?  If so then he should
> prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform.
>
> Mike
> On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" 
> wrote:
>
> > I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
> > suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
> > the administration of justice.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > > Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required
> > during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.
> > >
> > > I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox
> > Jews require it to be worn at all times.
> > >
> > > Goyim Dan
> > >
> > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield 
> > wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Canfield
I like your opinion.

Mike
On Dec 21, 2012 5:15 PM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary
> courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the
> commander in charge] firing squad.
>
> We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime
> rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the
> method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of
> the offending criminal.
>
> Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be?
> Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day
> following the attack.
>
> We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he
> can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of
> a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died
> while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus
> rewarded.
>
> Question is: Why do we play these stupid games.  Coat his worthless ass
> with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an
> example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him
> through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all
> islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass.
> Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally.
>
> Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS.
>
> Grant...
> --- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times---
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
> > suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
> > the administration of justice.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > > Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required
> > during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.
> > >
> > > I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox
> > Jews require it to be worn at all times.
> > >
> > > Goyim Dan
> > >
> > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield 
> > wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Is this not a Court Marshall?  Is he not a soldier first just like any
other soldier?  He signed a contract that says he will follow certain rules
of appearance.  Will he appear in court in uniform?  If so then he should
prepare himself as he swore to do when wearing that uniform.

Mike
On Dec 21, 2012 4:16 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
> suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
> the administration of justice.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required
> during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.
> >
> > I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox
> Jews require it to be worn at all times.
> >
> > Goyim Dan
> >
> > On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread G Mann
At any other time in history, this POS would have been given a summary
courts martial and shot the following morning by duly appointed [by the
commander in charge] firing squad.

We are at war [review the facts, if you can't make that decision]. Wartime
rules dictate such attacks are dealt with promptly and with death, the
method and timing at the discretion of the commanding officer at capture of
the offending criminal.

Had this happened, for example, in WW2, just how long would his beard be?
Answer, as long as it would grow before the sunrise firing squad the day
following the attack.

We are now some years into this trial phase and stupidly arguing over if he
can make a statement to his fellow muslim terrorist by forcing the issue of
a beard.. so when he is put to death he can be treated as a shehad [died
while furthering the cause of allah] and thus go to muslim heaven.. thus
rewarded.

Question is: Why do we play these stupid games.  Coat his worthless ass
with pig fat and shoot him with bullets dipped in pig blood to make an
example. Then, since he is a terrorist and we should fight to win, run him
through a wood chipper and feed the mush to pigs [as an example to all
islamic terrorist] so his LAST act on earth is to pass through a pigs ass.
Send a message such acts will not be tolerated, fight to win , finally.

Pissed, gonna stay that way, over this POS.

Grant...
--- Who has an opinion and doesn't hold it back at times---



On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
> suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
> the administration of justice.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> > Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required
> during prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.
> >
> > I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox
> Jews require it to be worn at all times.
> >
> > Goyim Dan
> >
> > On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield 
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 21, 2012, at 3:16 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel"  wrote:

> I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
> suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
> the administration of justice.


Agreed. I only wish that personnel stationed at Fort Hood would've been 
permitted to carry sidearms. We would not be having this discussion if that 
were the case. How much irrefutable proof has to be provided before it becomes 
obvious that gun free zones only work to provide target rich environments for 
those not inclined to obey laws. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I hope they just leave him alone.  Forcibly doing anything to a murder
suspect can only lead to more appeals later and attendant delays in
the administration of justice.


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during 
> prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.
>
> I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews 
> require it to be worn at all times.
>
> Goyim Dan
>
> On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield  wrote:
>
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>> sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Dan Penoff
Depending on how devout one is, wearing of a kippah is only required during 
prayer, when at/in synagogue, or when eating.

I would have to consult a Hassidic friend, but I think only Orthodox Jews 
require it to be worn at all times.

Goyim Dan

On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Michael Canfield  wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Canfield
There really should be a simple answer to this.  Does a Jewish soldier get
to wear his Kippah to court if he does something wrong?  I doubt it.

Mike
On Dec 21, 2012 9:52 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Then hang 'im.  Well, after a fair trial, anyway.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield"  >
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood
>
>
>  Shave the son of a bitch!  He signed a contract with our government that
>> says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service.  Make him
>> abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted!
>>
>> Mike
>> On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>  
>> http://www.military.com/**topics/nidal-hasan<http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan>
>>> __
>>>
>>> Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal
>>> Oct 03, 2012
>>>
>>> FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments
>>> before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood
>>> shooting
>>> rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial.
>>>
>>> Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of
>>> Criminal Appeals.
>>>
>>> Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires
>>> it,
>>> despite the Army's ban on beards.
>>>
>>> He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which
>>> his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without
>>> substantial government intrusion.
>>>
>>> The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will
>>> hear
>>> from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11.
>>>
>>> Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that
>>> killed 13 people at the Texas post.
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread WILTON

Then hang 'im.  Well, after a fair trial, anyway.

Wilton

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Shave the son of a bitch!  He signed a contract with our government that
says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service.  Make him
abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted!

Mike
On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM,  wrote:


http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan
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Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal
Oct 03, 2012

FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments
before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood 
shooting

rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial.

Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of
Criminal Appeals.

Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires 
it,

despite the Army's ban on beards.

He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which
his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without
substantial government intrusion.

The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will 
hear

from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that
killed 13 people at the Texas post.
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Larry T
Why do we allow this vermin to dictate to us?  Is there any doubt he is 
guilty?  We are wasting an awful of of money on this trial it seems.  I 
know there's no alternative and everyone gets their day in court but 
can't we treat someone who is probably on camera shooting people like a 
suspect?  If he was wearing a beard when he was shooting people he 
should not be allowed to change his appearance for the trial IMO.


Doesn't matter what I think but that's my .02 cents...

LarryT
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On 12/21/2012 12:34 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan
__

Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal
Oct 03, 2012

FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments
before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting
rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial.

Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of
Criminal Appeals.

Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it,
despite the Army's ban on beards.

He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which
his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without
substantial government intrusion.

The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear
from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that
killed 13 people at the Texas post.
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Re: [MBZ] Ft Hood

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Shave the son of a bitch!  He signed a contract with our government that
says he will maintain a certain dress code while in service.  Make him
abide by the contract he agreed to follow when he enlisted!

Mike
On Dec 21, 2012 12:34 AM,  wrote:

> http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan
> __
>
> Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal
> Oct 03, 2012
>
> FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments
> before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting
> rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial.
>
> Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of
> Criminal Appeals.
>
> Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it,
> despite the Army's ban on beards.
>
> He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which
> his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without
> substantial government intrusion.
>
> The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear
> from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11.
>
> Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that
> killed 13 people at the Texas post.
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