Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Rich Thomas]

Yes, a bit, but you do have a goodly amount of room in there to work, 
even with the contortions.  Don't forget to throw some blankets over the 
fenders, and be careful that stool doesn't tip out from under you.


--R (Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad 
judgment)


On 9/6/11 1:48 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


They look to be a bit of
a pain to get out, there's a couple of big wiring harnesses in the way
that will have to be unplugged (not to mention just the annoyance of
having to stand on a stool and lean way over just to get to the
cylinder heads from the top), so I don't want to have to do it again
anytime soon if I can help it.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> On 02/09/2011 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>> Good point.  The truck does run like a top and I'm tempted just to not
>> change them at all.

> I would ask how long you plan to keep it. If you have no plans to swap it
> soon, then I think I would at least have a look at the plugs and if they
> appear to be re-usable, coat them with anti sieze compound so that it will
> hopefully be easier when you need a new set. However, given the effort to
> remove and replace, one would think it might be false economy to not change
> to new ones.

Good point.  I do intend to keep the truck for the foreseeable future
and have been servicing it accordingly (all synthetic fluids, etc.).
Based on what you guys have told me here, I think I'll just get
whatever Delco ones the dealer parts department gives me when I go to
buy everything needed for the 100K service.  They look to be a bit of
a pain to get out, there's a couple of big wiring harnesses in the way
that will have to be unplugged (not to mention just the annoyance of
having to stand on a stool and lean way over just to get to the
cylinder heads from the top), so I don't want to have to do it again
anytime soon if I can help it.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Randy Bennell]

On 02/09/2011 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"  
wrote:


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,

Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).

The OE plugs were good for 100K miles why not stay with those?


Good point.  The truck does run like a top and I'm tempted just to not
change them at all.

Alex

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I would ask how long you plan to keep it. If you have no plans to swap 
it soon, then I think I would at least have a look at the plugs and if 
they appear to be re-usable, coat them with anti sieze compound so that 
it will hopefully be easier when you need a new set. However, given the 
effort to remove and replace, one would think it might be false economy 
to not change to new ones.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Randy Bennell]

On 02/09/2011 12:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,

Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).

Alex

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I cannot say the same. Any time I have tried to use aftermarket plugs in 
recent times, I have been disappointed.
I have resorted to dealer supplied original plugs and they have been 
fine and often less expensive than the stuff sold in the local auto 
parts stores.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Russ Williams]

Use OEM Plugs. You can presoak the plugs with ATF/Acetone.
IMPORTANT make sure the engine is STONE DEAD COLD before extracting
the old plugs.

Russ W.
Who looked at neighbors Burb that had Plug threads pulled out when he 
tried to change

them when eng. had been sitting 30 min before he tried to change them.
That was yesterday. Just talked to him as it was being loaded on a 
wrecker to go to the Shop

for head work.

On 9/2/2011 12:04 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

My '04 Suburban (5.3 liter gas "Vortec" V-8) is about due for its
100,000 mile service, which is basically a complete fluid change
including the stuff people usually ignore (differentials and transfer
case), all filters, and the first change of spark plugs.

Any recommendations for the best brand of plugs for these?  I know
already that the old ones are likely to be a bear to get out of the
aluminum head and that I should let them sit in penetrating oil for a
good long time first (any tricks for doing this on a V-8 where the
plugs if I'm unlucky will be pointed down)?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Brian Toscano]

Ditto on blowing out the spark plug area with air.  I'd use Kroil or some
other penetrant on a stubborn plug.  As for the plugs themselves, I'd use
whatever GM recommends unless I heard otherwise.  Bosch may be fine for some
models but not others.  I'd use NGK in a Subaru where they're OE but not
necessarily in an American car.

Brian



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> He's doing the 100k service?
>
> I did this to my Sub about 4 years ago (and will have to do it again in a
> year or so!!), and I think that platinums were specified.  I believe I got
> the Bosch, which were a bit more but the guy at the parts store said he
> thought they were a bit better.
>
> Had no troubles getting them out, except for the usual contortions.  Make
> sure you wash the motor well to get all the crap from around them, and blow
> out with air.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/2/11 1:35 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"> gmail.com >  wrote:
>>
>>  On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>>>
 I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,

>>> Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
>>> lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
>>> example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).
>>>
>> The OE plugs were good for 100K miles why not stay with those?
>>
>> Allan
>> --
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>> 1979 300SD
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Rich Thomas]

He's doing the 100k service?

I did this to my Sub about 4 years ago (and will have to do it again in 
a year or so!!), and I think that platinums were specified.  I believe I 
got the Bosch, which were a bit more but the guy at the parts store said 
he thought they were a bit better.


Had no troubles getting them out, except for the usual contortions.  
Make sure you wash the motor well to get all the crap from around them, 
and blow out with air.


--R

On 9/2/11 1:35 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"  
wrote:


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,

Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).

The OE plugs were good for 100K miles why not stay with those?

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"  
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> > I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,
>>
>> Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
>> lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
>> example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).
>
> The OE plugs were good for 100K miles why not stay with those?
>

Good point.  The truck does run like a top and I'm tempted just to not
change them at all.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Allan Streib]

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:33 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"  
wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> > I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,
> 
> Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
> lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
> example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).

The OE plugs were good for 100K miles why not stay with those?

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs,

Good to know.  That was one of the things I was wondering.  I know
lots of older engines do not like the platinum plugs (M103s for
example, if people on the NectarineBits forums are to be believed).

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Mitch Haley]

I've always been happy with NGK or Bosch's platinum plugs, with threads lightly 
coated in Nev-R-Seez.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: spark plugs for Murrican iron

[Allan Streib]

I'd just go with OEM, AC-Delco plugs.  With my Focus I used Motorcraft.

I had good luck using acetone/ATF to unstick a couple of the plugs on my Focus. 
They point straight down and sit in deep wells so I just put a little pool of 
the mix into each well and let it sit for a while.

Allan

On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:04 -0700, "Alex Chamberlain"  
wrote:
> My '04 Suburban (5.3 liter gas "Vortec" V-8) is about due for its
> 100,000 mile service, which is basically a complete fluid change
> including the stuff people usually ignore (differentials and transfer
> case), all filters, and the first change of spark plugs.
> 
> Any recommendations for the best brand of plugs for these?  I know
> already that the old ones are likely to be a bear to get out of the
> aluminum head and that I should let them sit in penetrating oil for a
> good long time first (any tricks for doing this on a V-8 where the
> plugs if I'm unlucky will be pointed down)?
> 
> Alex
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