Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Sure, I can appreciate that. The last thing you want is to work on a car, and then not have confidence in to. Ed 300E On 20/08/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cool. Actually, and I know these words would probably get beer poured > on my head if I were to attend the Iowa Q, but I am pretty far from > attempting something as major as timing belt. > > In fact, I recently decided against trying to replace my 190D > thermostat. Looked too complicated - too many things in the way - > didn't look like the simple job I'm used to it being. > > Brian > likes using cars > > On 8/20/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > check out sites like AutoZone as they post the "how to" for certain > jobs. > > The belt on the car may not be that big of a deal and perhaps somethign > you > > can try, if you feel comfortable with it. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 20/08/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > > > > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > > > > engine? > > > > > > Yeah, how many miles are on it? :-) > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Cool. Actually, and I know these words would probably get beer poured on my head if I were to attend the Iowa Q, but I am pretty far from attempting something as major as timing belt. In fact, I recently decided against trying to replace my 190D thermostat. Looked too complicated - too many things in the way - didn't look like the simple job I'm used to it being. Brian likes using cars On 8/20/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > check out sites like AutoZone as they post the "how to" for certain jobs. > The belt on the car may not be that big of a deal and perhaps somethign you > can try, if you feel comfortable with it. > > Ed > 300E > > On 20/08/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > > > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > > > engine? > > > > Yeah, how many miles are on it? :-) > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
check out sites like AutoZone as they post the "how to" for certain jobs. The belt on the car may not be that big of a deal and perhaps somethign you can try, if you feel comfortable with it. Ed 300E On 20/08/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > > engine? > > Yeah, how many miles are on it? :-) > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
ha ha ha!! :-) Ed 300E On 20/08/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not positive but I would guess a Mazda RX-8. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:03:01 -0400 > From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Which Japanese/Korean cars are "not" valve benders? > Thanks, > Gerry > > > - > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car > Finder tool. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Not positive but I would guess a Mazda RX-8. -Curt Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:03:01 -0400 From: "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Which Japanese/Korean cars are "not" valve benders? Thanks, Gerry - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
> She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > engine? Yeah, how many miles are on it? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
On 8/19/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Regular belt replacement is especially important on Acura and Honda engines > because almost every one of these engines is an interference design! The > only exceptions are the 3.2L V6 in the 1998 and newer Acura SLX models, and > the 3.2L V6 in 1994 and up Passports. Actually an Isuzu engine... that's why. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
> Gerry, > Here's something that might be of help. Note the * footnotes. > http://www.gates.com/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=TBR05.pdf&folder=brochure > John --- Thanks, John. Gates.com would come up but not the above URL. Their server that handles this may be down for service, this being Sunday morning. I did a search and came up with this: "Regular belt replacement is especially important on Acura and Honda engines because almost every one of these engines is an interference design! The only exceptions are the 3.2L V6 in the 1998 and newer Acura SLX models, and the 3.2L V6 in 1994 and up Passports. With Toyota, there is less risk of additional engine damage because the only Toyota interference engines are the older 1.5L Tercel, 2.4L Pickup and 1.8L Camry and Corolla engines. Apparently, Toyota engineers were more generous with combustion chamber clearances than Honda engineers." http://www.aa1car.com/library/2003/us70343.htm - > On 8/18/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Which Japanese/Korean cars are "not" valve benders? >> Thanks, >> Gerry >> - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Gerry, Here's something that might be of help. Note the * footnotes. http://www.gates.com/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=TBR05.pdf&folder=brochure John On 8/18/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which Japanese/Korean cars are "not" valve benders? > Thanks, > Gerry > - > - Original Message - > From: "John Freer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Manufacturers spend millions of dollars to publish owners manuals. The > > general public (those that can read) are not to blame. > > > > On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. > >> This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I > >> don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something > >> close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up > >> at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very > >> reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they > >> are reliable, with a very severe caveat. > >> You would think that it would be better known that these cars will > >> just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. > >> Brian > >> > >> On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Redghost wrote: > >> > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you > can > >> > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said > to > >> > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > >> > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > >> > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > >> > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > >> > > >> > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference > >> > engine. > >> > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no > guarantee, > >> > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > >> > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 > >> > Escort > >> > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a > >> > 1.9Lso > >> > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 > miles > >> > a day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little > brother > >> > when > >> > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again > >> > so > >> > I'm guessing a defective belt. > >> > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Which Japanese/Korean cars are "not" valve benders? Thanks, Gerry - - Original Message - From: "John Freer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Manufacturers spend millions of dollars to publish owners manuals. The > general public (those that can read) are not to blame. > > On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. >> This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I >> don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something >> close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up >> at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very >> reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they >> are reliable, with a very severe caveat. >> You would think that it would be better known that these cars will >> just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. >> Brian >> >> On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Redghost wrote: >> > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can >> > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to >> > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 >> > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the >> > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone >> > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k >> > >> > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference >> > engine. >> > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, >> > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it >> > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 >> > Escort >> > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a >> > 1.9Lso >> > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles >> > a day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother >> > when >> > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again >> > so >> > I'm guessing a defective belt. >> > Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
It's amazing just how much info is in those small books. I still go through all my owners manuals once or twice a year, just to refresh my memory. Ed 300E On 18/08/07, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Manufacturers spend millions of dollars to publish owners manuals. The > general public (those that can read) are not to blame. > > On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. > > > > This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I > > don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something > > close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up > > at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very > > reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they > > are reliable, with a very severe caveat. > > > > You would think that it would be better known that these cars will > > just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. > > > > Brian > > > > On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Redghost wrote: > > > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you > can > > > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > > > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > > > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > > > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > > > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > > > > > > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference > engine. > > > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no > guarantee, > > > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > > > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 > Escort > > > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a > 1.9Lso > > > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 > miles > > a > > > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother > > when > > > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again > so > > > I'm guessing a defective belt. > > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Manufacturers spend millions of dollars to publish owners manuals. The general public (those that can read) are not to blame. On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. > > This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I > don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something > close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up > at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very > reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they > are reliable, with a very severe caveat. > > You would think that it would be better known that these cars will > just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. > > Brian > > On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Redghost wrote: > > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can > > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > > > > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. > > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, > > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort > > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9Lso > > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles > a > > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother > when > > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so > > I'm guessing a defective belt. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Most say mileage, as the average driver will cover the mileage in about 5-6 years. Like any rubber bit, time effects them too. If I had a car with very lows miles and use, I'd change things based on time, as I do with my old porsche. If it's a valve bender engine, I'd kind of think around the 5-6 year mark or mileage, whatever comes frist. many ownder's manuals will give a both a time and mileage change date. Alwayus best to check the book. Ed 300E On 18/08/07, Affzaal.Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there Any time frame for replacement , or is it simply > mileage related > > mak > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt > > > > I'm thinking it depends on what sort of auto experience you have. If > > you're > > used to dealing with Japanese cars, you should be used to dealing with > > timing belts. I've been well versed with them for about 12 years. You > > generally replace timing belts in the 60-100K mile range depending on > the > > vehicle. If not, you can usually find good deals on cars with blown > > engines > > from people who didn't bother to replace them. I've done two in my > wife's > > Subaru and I'm nearing time for the 4th in my Subee. > > > > Levi > > > > On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. > >> > >> This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I > >> don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something > >> close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up > >> at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very > >> reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they > >> are reliable, with a very severe caveat. > >> > >> You would think that it would be better known that these cars will > >> just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Redghost wrote: > >> > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you > can > >> > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said > to > >> > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > >> > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > >> > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > >> > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > >> > > >> > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference > >> > engine. > >> > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no > guarantee, > >> > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > >> > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 > >> > Escort > >> > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a > >> > 1.9Lso > >> > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 > miles > >> a > >> > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother > >> when > >> > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again > >> > so > >> > I'm guessing a defective belt. > >> > > >> > Mitch. > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
"Affzaal.Khan" wrote: > > Is there Any time frame for replacement , or is it simply mileage related If belt breakage can destroy the engine, I wouldn't want to bet $2000 on a piece of rubber that's more than five years old. That's just my opinion, seems like most factory recommendations are mileage based. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Is there Any time frame for replacement , or is it simply mileage related mak - Original Message - From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt > I'm thinking it depends on what sort of auto experience you have. If > you're > used to dealing with Japanese cars, you should be used to dealing with > timing belts. I've been well versed with them for about 12 years. You > generally replace timing belts in the 60-100K mile range depending on the > vehicle. If not, you can usually find good deals on cars with blown > engines > from people who didn't bother to replace them. I've done two in my wife's > Subaru and I'm nearing time for the 4th in my Subee. > > Levi > > On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. >> >> This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I >> don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something >> close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up >> at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very >> reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they >> are reliable, with a very severe caveat. >> >> You would think that it would be better known that these cars will >> just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. >> >> Brian >> >> On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Redghost wrote: >> > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can >> > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to >> > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 >> > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the >> > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone >> > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k >> > >> > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference >> > engine. >> > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, >> > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it >> > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 >> > Escort >> > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a >> > 1.9Lso >> > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles >> a >> > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother >> when >> > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again >> > so >> > I'm guessing a defective belt. >> > >> > Mitch. >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/959 - Release Date: 8/17/2007 > 5:43 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
I'm thinking it depends on what sort of auto experience you have. If you're used to dealing with Japanese cars, you should be used to dealing with timing belts. I've been well versed with them for about 12 years. You generally replace timing belts in the 60-100K mile range depending on the vehicle. If not, you can usually find good deals on cars with blown engines from people who didn't bother to replace them. I've done two in my wife's Subaru and I'm nearing time for the 4th in my Subee. Levi On 8/18/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. > > This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I > don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something > close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up > at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very > reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they > are reliable, with a very severe caveat. > > You would think that it would be better known that these cars will > just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. > > Brian > > On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Redghost wrote: > > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can > > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > > > > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. > > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, > > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort > > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9Lso > > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles > a > > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother > when > > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so > > I'm guessing a defective belt. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
I just changed the belt on a "non bender" engine. :-) It broke before the recommend time change, and I suspect when it was last changed, they put a nic in the belt when putting it on or something. Tow home, ($60) and new best $28. Line everything up and a few skinned knuckles later, I was back in business. hee hee. Gotta love low compression American engines at times. Ed 300E On 18/08/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Redghost wrote: > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9L so > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles a > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother when > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so > I'm guessing a defective belt. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
I will recommend that we get that belt replaced soon. This is really interesting to me though, as I wasn't aware, and I don't think the general public is aware, that these cars are something close to a time bomb in that they are very likely to just go belly up at a certain point. All I knew was that these Hondas were very reliable and would last a long time. But according to this info., they are reliable, with a very severe caveat. You would think that it would be better known that these cars will just quit at around 100k or whatever the designated mileage is. Brian On 8/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Redghost wrote: > > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can > > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k > > I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. > Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, > but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it > breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort > at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9L so > all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles a > day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother when > she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so > I'm guessing a defective belt. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Redghost wrote: > JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can > squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to > change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 > before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the > top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone > in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k I would never let one go more than five years in an interference engine. Also would not exceed mfr's mileage recommendation. Still no guarantee, but if you replace the CRV's belt now you will be safe (unless it breaks on the way to the shop). A friend lost the belt on her '87 Escort at around 35k in 1988. She was not pleased, but at least it was a 1.9L so all it cost her was a tow bill and $200. This car went about 150 miles a day on the freeway, with a 5 speed. She gave it to her little brother when she bought an Escort GT in '89, AFAIK it did not break the belt again so I'm guessing a defective belt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
Brian, JUST REPLACE IT. Not worth the $400 to open it up and see if you can squeeze a few thousand more miles out. I had an acura that said to change the belt at 90k. It was not joking. I made it to 91,231 before the belt let loose and I was in it for $2500 to rebuild the top end. Valves slapped all over the place. Should have just gone in and paid my $400 for the belt right at 90k clay On 17 Aug 2007, at 18:23, Zoltan Finks wrote: > The wife has a good question about our 2000 CRV that has just over > 100,000 mi.: > > She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > engine? > > And > > I know that on old V8 engines with timing chains the engine starts > acting up when the chain is getting to be stretched. But with belts, > do they just up and break one day without warning? > > Thanks, > Brian > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 06:23:14PM -0700, Zoltan Finks wrote: > The wife has a good question about our 2000 CRV that has just over 100,000 > mi.: > > She says that Hondas need timing belts replaced at about 80k mi. Is > there a way to know if it needs replacing without opening up the > engine? Some do, some don't. Some Hondas use a belt, some are chain. Yours seems to be a belt, and according to http://www.samarins.com/reviews/cr-v.html the interval is 105k. Check in your owner's manual or with your dealer. 02+ crv's are supposedly chain drive (from the same source). A 91 jetta has an inspection cover, leave it to Ze Germans to think of everything. > I know that on old V8 engines with timing chains the engine starts > acting up when the chain is getting to be stretched. But with belts, > do they just up and break one day without warning? Yes. And generally, they are interference engines, which makes the cost of paying a shop $400 to swap the belt really nothing. (Yes, I know some belt engines aren't interference, like a mercury lynx for example.) Also some of those v8s (like 380SL/SE/SEL) can have single row timing chains that aren't known for just stretching - they can jump time and cause as many problems as a shredded belt. K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
